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(FanHouse) Hero Obama on his first 100 days: "I would call my attorney general in and review every single executive order issued by George Bush and overturn those laws or executive decisions that I feel violate the constitution"   (freerepublic.com) divider line 661
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keiverarrow [TotalFark] 2008-05-29 01:51:02 PM  
That was what I was waiting for!! Obama, you are personal hero. Now tell me about indictments.

 
Fraggler [TotalFark] 2008-05-29 01:54:21 PM  
WANT

 
LessO2 2008-05-29 01:54:54 PM  
God Bless Barack Obama.

 
Two Dogs Farking [TotalFark] 2008-05-29 01:55:44 PM  
That's it, game over biatches.

 
tomlennon [TotalFark] 2008-05-29 01:56:07 PM  
"I would call my attorney general in and review every single executive order issued by George Bush and overturn those laws or executive decisions that I feel violate the constitution"

Um, since most of those executive orders gave strength and power back (depending on your perspective) to the executive branch, I doubt many will be overturned. Cheney's mantra of the unitary-executive has been attacked by the Democrats, but I doubt the attacks will be as strong if they take power.

 
Colonel_Debugger 2008-05-29 01:56:52 PM  
Yeah, I'm going to believe anyone's campaign speak.

Show me douchebag.

 
mypalmike 2008-05-29 01:57:03 PM  
We can haz country back?

 
Running a-puck 2008-05-29 01:57:27 PM  
tomlennon: "I would call my attorney general in and review every single executive order issued by George Bush and overturn those laws or executive decisions that I feel violate the constitution"

Um, since most of those executive orders gave strength and power back (depending on your perspective) to the executive branch, I doubt many will be overturned. Cheney's mantra of the unitary-executive has been attacked by the Democrats, but I doubt the attacks will be as strong if they take power.


There-in lies the really really good part about having a CONSTITUTIONAL SCHOLAR as the next pres. One of the reasons that I like the guy despite our disagreements on other issues.

 
unlikely [TotalFark] 2008-05-29 01:59:26 PM  
Colonel_Debugger: Yeah, I'm going to believe anyone's campaign speak.

I don't think I believe campaign speak either. But I think I'm more willing to give a chance to the constitutional scholar who at least recognizes that there's a problem than I am to anyone else running.

 
dstanley 2008-05-29 01:59:59 PM  
How many Farkers are there on the comments page of the linked article? It sounds like this place.

 
Etchy333 [TotalFark] 2008-05-29 02:00:12 PM  
I thought he was going to convert the whole country into a Sharia government or something. Did I miss something?

 
tomlennon [TotalFark] 2008-05-29 02:00:23 PM  
Running a-puck: There-in lies the really really good part about having a CONSTITUTIONAL SCHOLAR as the next pres. One of the reasons that I like the guy despite our disagreements on other issues.

Constitutional scholars are responsible for this theory - you're just looking for a constitutional scholar you agree with. I actually agree with the fact that many of those orders are illegal, or at least an f-you to congress. But the cynical side of me imagines a President Obama pondering a GOP-controlled house...and all of a sudden those XO's don't look that evil.

 
Biggs [TotalFark] 2008-05-29 02:00:27 PM  
I'm all for this. If he can/will do it. I would like a promise that if he doesn't do this he will resign and leave the country.

 
netweavr [TotalFark] 2008-05-29 02:00:37 PM  
Oh look promises!

Just like the Democratic Party promised to end the war if we gave them the Congress!

...oh wait...

 
SushiJoe [TotalFark] 2008-05-29 02:00:55 PM  
and there you have it folks

 
mediaho 2008-05-29 02:01:24 PM  
Nice try, but that's what I'd expect a Muslim sleeper agent to say! ;-)

Here's a chance for all of you so-called Fark libertarians to come out and show your support. [crickets]

 
About_20_Ninjas 2008-05-29 02:01:43 PM  
In before lunch.

Taking bets on whether or not Iran nukes Isreal within the first 100 days of Obama being in office

/and whether or not the average fark democrat even cares...

 
NewportBarGuy [TotalFark] 2008-05-29 02:02:10 PM  
Executive Order 13292 needs to be scrubbed from existence. Get on it.

 
TheDumbBlonde [TotalFark] 2008-05-29 02:02:42 PM  
Did they pass out a double-strength batch of the Kool-Aid today?

 
schnarff [recently expired TotalFark] 2008-05-29 02:02:45 PM  
The fact that he's even talking about doing this is a great sign. Heck, even if he only invalidated 1% of the garbage signed off on by Bush it'd be a good thing.

 
About_20_Ninjas 2008-05-29 02:02:53 PM  
Running a-puck: There-in lies the really really good part about having a CONSTITUTIONAL SCHOLAR as the next pres. One of the reasons that I like the guy despite our disagreements on other issues.

And yet something tells me you think that Antonin Scalia is a nutjob.

 
NewportBarGuy [TotalFark] 2008-05-29 02:03:07 PM  
About_20_Ninjas: Taking bets on whether or not Iran nukes Isreal within the first 100 days of Obama being in office

They'd actually have to possess said weapons in order to do that. But, nice try.

 
tomlennon [TotalFark] 2008-05-29 02:03:44 PM  
netweavr: Just like the Democratic Party promised to end the war if we gave them the Congress!

You should try living in Massachusetts - we elected the beta-release of Obama, and not one campaign promise has been fulfilled. The most embarrassing part: Mass GOP doesn't even put up candidates for 67% of the districts in the state!

Together we Can = Change we can Believe in

 
Running a-puck 2008-05-29 02:03:51 PM  
tomlennon: Running a-puck: There-in lies the really really good part about having a CONSTITUTIONAL SCHOLAR as the next pres. One of the reasons that I like the guy despite our disagreements on other issues.

Constitutional scholars are responsible for this theory - you're just looking for a constitutional scholar you agree with. I actually agree with the fact that many of those orders are illegal, or at least an f-you to congress. But the cynical side of me imagines a President Obama pondering a GOP-controlled house...and all of a sudden those XO's don't look that evil.


Touche' You are absolutely correct with the agreement aspect. I would hope that the next pres. has the forsight to see that if he doesn't rip them down then the NEXT guy might be able to use them too. Hooray enlightened self interest.

 
mediaho 2008-05-29 02:04:03 PM  
About_20_Ninjas: Taking bets on whether or not Iran nukes Isreal within the first 100 days of Obama being in office

I'll bet you $25,000. Or you could just admit your grasp of international realities is flawed at best and spare the ignominious defeat.

A fool and his money, indeed.

 
About_20_Ninjas 2008-05-29 02:04:27 PM  
NewportBarGuy: About_20_Ninjas: Taking bets on whether or not Iran nukes Isreal within the first 100 days of Obama being in office

They'd actually have to possess said weapons in order to do that. But, nice try.


Firebombs. Invades. Throws a lot of sheep with explosives strapped to them towards Isreal.

Fark it, I don't care if its actually a nuke, but there will be outright aggression.

 
alonzinator [TotalFark] 2008-05-29 02:05:45 PM  
FTFTComments

To Jack from Kansas - people have always said things like that about teachers. It is a popular aphorism, but that does not make it true in any sense. Teachers can only contribute so much - the rest has to come from ability within and some modicum of personal drive.
Example - there is no such word as "irregardless".
Perhaps you should question your teachers and forget about what makes a good or bad engineer.



BLAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHA

 
benlonghair [TotalFark] 2008-05-29 02:06:51 PM  
Two Dogs Farking: That's it, game over biatches.

Yep, he'll be assassinated in office.

/wait, that's not what you meant?

 
Testiclaw 2008-05-29 02:07:20 PM  
Here! Here!

Hopefully it works out like we all need it to.

 
Running a-puck 2008-05-29 02:07:46 PM  
About_20_Ninjas: And yet something tells me you think that Antonin Scalia is a nutjob.

A nut job? No. Inconsistent with his rulings? Yes. I he took strict constructionalist stance with the taking land for private development, but he has never seen an extension of police power that he doesn't like.

 
About_20_Ninjas 2008-05-29 02:08:02 PM  
benlonghair: Yep, he'll be assassinated in office.

A friend of mine said recently: "Let's face it, no matter who is elected between McCain or Obama, we'll see the vice president take over by the end of the term."

 
5000_gallons_of_toothpaste 2008-05-29 02:08:11 PM  
Bush Co might actually see this as a good thing. I mean, did they actually think about the fact that every violation of the Constitution they make would be given to the next person in line, and could possibly be used against them? Obama fixing those holes could actually be a good thing for Bush.

 
supichoo [TotalFark] 2008-05-29 02:08:17 PM  
Why stop at the last 8 years?

 
lunchinlewis [TotalFark] 2008-05-29 02:08:32 PM  
It's a nice sound bite, put perhaps in his role as a Senator, and being aware of what the executive orders have been, he could start listing a few he would rescind.

 
gilgamesh23 [TotalFark] 2008-05-29 02:08:39 PM  
Colonel_Debugger: Yeah, I'm going to believe anyone's campaign speak.

Show me douchebag.


Uh, he can't show you unless he actually becomes president. So you're saying you're going to be voting for Obama so that he can, indeed, show you?

In that case, welcome to the team! We prostrate ourselves before the portrait of Our Savior at seven on weekdays, sing Kum-Bay-Ya together each night at nine, and make calls to likely voters in swing states any chance we get. Check your flag pin at the door though: we've moved beyond mere symbols of patriotism.

 
About_20_Ninjas 2008-05-29 02:08:47 PM  
Running a-puck: About_20_Ninjas: And yet something tells me you think that Antonin Scalia is a nutjob.

A nut job? No. Inconsistent with his rulings? Yes. I he took strict constructionalist stance with the taking land for private development, but he has never seen an extension of police power that he doesn't like.


Retracted then.

/Sorry. My confidence in farkers today is at a record low...

 
mojo_the_helper_monkey [TotalFark] 2008-05-29 02:08:56 PM  
Win!

GObama '08!

 
5000_gallons_of_toothpaste 2008-05-29 02:09:26 PM  
About_20_Ninjas: benlonghair: Yep, he'll be assassinated in office.

A friend of mine said recently: "Let's face it, no matter who is elected between McCain or Obama, we'll see the vice president take over by the end of the term."


Which is why Obama should take one from Dave Chappelle and make his VP a Mexican.

 
KaponoFor3 [recently expired TotalFark] 2008-05-29 02:09:26 PM  
I would call my attorney general in and review every single executive order issued by George Bush and overturn those laws or executive decisions that I feel violate the constitution

Constitutional scholar or not, that type of stuff is the province of the Courts.

Plus, if Obama's view on the constitution is similar to his view about judicial officers, I don't think we really want him to be making any unilateral decisions about the constitution.

 
Running a-puck 2008-05-29 02:10:37 PM  
About_20_Ninjas: Running a-puck: About_20_Ninjas: And yet something tells me you think that Antonin Scalia is a nutjob.

A nut job? No. Inconsistent with his rulings? Yes. I he took strict constructionalist stance with the taking land for private development, but he has never seen an extension of police power that he doesn't like.

Retracted then.

/Sorry. My confidence in farkers today is at a record low...


Heh, if you wanted to see me be irrational about a SCJ, you should have said Thomas...

 
KaponoFor3 [recently expired TotalFark] 2008-05-29 02:11:10 PM  
5000_gallons_of_toothpaste: Which is why Obama should take one from Dave Chappelle and make his VP a Mexican.

"Myself and Vice President Sanchez will be meeting later today"

 
mmm... pancake 2008-05-29 02:11:17 PM  
If Obama actually gave two shiats about the Constitution we wouldn't be hearing about how Government is going to solve everybody's problems rather than actually making them worse. He is the "What can your country do for you?" candidate.

 
tomlennon [TotalFark] 2008-05-29 02:11:45 PM  
KaponoFor3: Constitutional scholar or not, that type of stuff is the province of the Courts.

XO's he can rescind with another XO - but you'd think a 'professor' like him would understand that you can't post-date a veto

 
mypalmike 2008-05-29 02:11:57 PM  
Colonel_Debugger: Show me douchebag.

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mediaho 2008-05-29 02:12:11 PM  
KaponoFor3: I would call my attorney general in and review every single executive order issued by George Bush and overturn those laws or executive decisions that I feel violate the constitution

Constitutional scholar or not, that type of stuff is the province of the Courts.


Executive decisions are the province of the Executive.

 
Nabb1 [TotalFark] 2008-05-29 02:12:27 PM  
KaponoFor3: I would call my attorney general in and review every single executive order issued by George Bush and overturn those laws or executive decisions that I feel violate the constitution

Constitutional scholar or not, that type of stuff is the province of the Courts.

Plus, if Obama's view on the constitution is similar to his view about judicial officers, I don't think we really want him to be making any unilateral decisions about the constitution.


I think that is a very good point. This seems to be more of a judicial review exercise. I'd think maybe instructing agencies that signing statements should be disregarded would be more appropriate.

 
KaponoFor3 [recently expired TotalFark] 2008-05-29 02:12:50 PM  
tomlennon: XO's he can rescind with another XO - but you'd think a 'professor' like him would understand that you can't post-date a veto
mediaho: Executive decisions are the province of the Executive.

Touche, I stand corrected.

 
bob_ross [TotalFark] 2008-05-29 02:12:57 PM  
img110.imageshack.us

 
tomlennon [TotalFark] 2008-05-29 02:14:04 PM  
mmm... pancake: He is the "What can your country do for you?" candidate.

THIS, that, and the other thing.

 
KaponoFor3 [recently expired TotalFark] 2008-05-29 02:14:15 PM  
Nabb1: I think that is a very good point. This seems to be more of a judicial review exercise. I'd think maybe instructing agencies that signing statements should be disregarded would be more appropriate.

If he can overturn previous executive orders, then he can do it and that's one of the rewards of winning the White House. But he should just tell it like it is and say he doesn't like Orders X, Y, and Z and not try to shade them as some sort of unconstitutional unilateral determination on his behalf.

 
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