Hmmm, Europe doesn't like and susan sarandon will move. Voting for mccain is getting more attractive...

/not really.

... and Europe doesn't vote for our President.
Most irrelevent news story of the day.

Wince_Meet: ... and Europe doesn't vote for our President.
Most irrelevent news story of the day.

i don't know, there's still rachel ray's terrorist scarf to read about.

There was a similar news bit in Canada last week. 85% of Canadians surveyed would have voted for Barack Obama. Versus just 12% for John McCain.

Wince_Meet: ... and Europe doesn't vote for our President.
Most irrelevent news story of the day.

Not really since how the rest of the world views our president has major impacts on American businesses.

For example, Venezuala does 50 million dollars worth of business with businesses in Florida alone. Bush and Chavez penis fencing each other constantly is hurting those businesses.

We need a president who is liked by the rest of the world, or at least not despised and viewed as an ignorant fool.

Next we will be hearing about who they would vote for in Siberia.

I can't wait to vote for Berlusconi!

3 things that mean precisely diddly in American Presidential elections;

1. World opinion
2. Issues
3. Reality

Good thing Barack is running for president of Europe.

manimal2878: Wince_Meet: ... and Europe doesn't vote for our President.
Most irrelevent news story of the day.

Not really since how the rest of the world views our president has major impacts on American businesses.

For example, Venezuala does 50 million dollars worth of business with businesses in Florida alone. Bush and Chavez penis fencing each other constantly is hurting those businesses.

We need a president who is liked by the rest of the world, or at least not despised and viewed as an ignorant fool.

Reasoning with xenophobes isn't going to help. You need to wave your hands in the air, use catchy phrases, and give them a conspiracy to latch on to.

Have all the Icelandic superdelegates pledged yet?

Hideously Gigantic Smurf: 3 things that mean precisely diddly in American Presidential elections;

1. World opinion

AS WELL IT SHOULDN'T. do I get to vote in THEIR elections?

/wow... shocker. arab sympathizers here AND in Europe want an arab US president

captain_napalm: wow... shocker. arab sympathizers here AND in Europe want an arab US president

7/10

Good effort.

"The poll also found a striking level of anti-American feeling in every country. A clear majority of Russians - 56 per cent - believe the US is a "force for evil" in the world. In Britain, only 33 per cent see America as a "force for good".

Opinion towards America has become steadily more hostile throughout the presidency of George W Bush, with the Iraq war probably being the single most important factor."

A question for those who still believe that the War on Terror is primarily a military conflict: Given these results around the world, is it going to be easier or harder in the future to achieve our national goals and protect our interests internationally?

captain_napalm: Hideously Gigantic Smurf: 3 things that mean precisely diddly in American Presidential elections;

1. World opinion

AS WELL IT SHOULDN'T. do I get to vote in THEIR elections?

/wow... shocker. arab sympathizers here AND in Europe want an arab US president

Which Arab presidential candidate are you talking about? Ralph Nader?

If the entire world was allowed to vote in the U.S. presidential election, this story would matter.

I work at a hotel where we get a lot of Brits and Aussies this time of the year. I've had many conversations about the election, and I can definitely say that Obama is polling at approximately 100% among our friends from across the ponds.

They are scared to death of McCain getting in.

captain_napalm: Hideously Gigantic Smurf: 3 things that mean precisely diddly in American Presidential elections;

1. World opinion

AS WELL IT SHOULDN'T. do I get to vote in THEIR elections?

/wow... shocker. arab sympathizers here AND in Europe want an arab US president

Obama for Human Alliance President!

Err, wait we haven't announced the Mars dig discovery yet. Damn, guess we'll have to wait a while.

Hideously Gigantic Smurf: 3 things that mean precisely diddly in American Presidential elections;

1. World opinion
2. Issues
3. Reality

Just so you know, putting any real proprity on "world opinion" when electing a local leader is voting without regard for the direct interest of one's country, which is a very small step from actually voting against the interest of one country. In other words, it's a good indicator that you're doing it wrong.

They're welcome to request annexation and then apply for statehood if they want, though. I have the same policy there as regards (legal) immigration: there's room for plenty more in this country.

//When are we gonna give Puerto Rico proper statehood, while I'm thread-jacking? They've been ready for bloody decades. Language varying from state to state is not really a big deal, a lot of things vary from state to state.

Renart: Which Arab presidential candidate are you talking about? Ralph Nader?

your barely black messiah is actually more arab. hth.

Story is obvious. The only people who want McCain are the tough-guy Americans who care nothing for the rest of the planet, or the retards who can't think for themselves and get their ideas from either conservative talk radio or church.

FTFA: "Opinion towards America has become steadily more hostile throughout the presidency of George W Bush, with the Iraq war probably being the single most important factor."

Great job, Bush.

/how can anyone still support that man?

GoldSpider: If the entire world was allowed to vote in the U.S. presidential election, this story would matter.

captain_napalm: AS WELL IT SHOULDN'T. do I get to vote in THEIR elections?

Wince_Meet: ... and Europe doesn't vote for our President.
Most irrelevent news story of the day.

Just to flip it around, let's say Iran's president (we all know who he is, I can't be bothered to look up the spelling) was up for election. Or North Korea. Or any of the other nations' leaders who don't like us. Would you be interested in the outcome of those elections, or would you simply ignore it because "you can't vote there"?

Why is everyone scared of McCain? He's been a RINO for years.

/ Go Bob Barr!
// At least he'd make the debates interesting

captain_napalm: hth

hth? Hand-to-hand? Are you challenging me to fisticuffs?

Jim_Callahan: Just so you know, putting any real proprity on "world opinion" when electing a local leader is voting without regard for the direct interest of one's country, which is a very small step from actually voting against the interest of one country. In other words, it's a good indicator that you're doing it wrong.


Having more countries like us is in our best interests. Not saying world opinion should be the biggest factor, or even a large one. But it counts for something.

I will allow them to vote in our elections when I can vote in their elections. If you want to have a say in the US elections, move here and legally register to vote!

/I've got some serious hate for Europeans who think they know better than Americans on how to run America..
//Fix your own shiat first then we might talk.
///End the European colonial occupation of the former Yugoslavia!
////Bring the European troops from their colonial occupation of Africa!

Jim_Callahan: Just so you know, putting any real proprity on "world opinion" when electing a local leader is voting without regard for the direct interest of one's country, which is a very small step from actually voting against the interest of one country.

I guess you have no problem at all with Putin, Ahmadinejad or Chavez.

SkaGoblin: Just to flip it around, let's say Iran's president was up for election. Or North Korea. Or any of the other nations' leaders who don't like us. Would you be interested in the outcome of those elections, or would you simply ignore it because "you can't vote there"?

It doesn't hurt to pay attention to such things, and one is certainly entitled to an opinion. However a poll such as this is a pretty silly waste of time, as it has absolutely no bearing on the outcome.

burndtdan: Wince_Meet: ... and Europe doesn't vote for our President.
Most irrelevent news story of the day.

i don't know, there's still rachel ray's terrorist scarf to read about.

winner

Hillary Clinton: Not going to be the nominee.

/move along, nothing to see here

barackis44 delegates shy of 2026.

Jim_Callahan: Hideously Gigantic Smurf: 3 things that mean precisely diddly in American Presidential elections;

1. World opinion
2. Issues
3. Reality

Just so you know, putting any real proprity on "world opinion" when electing a local leader is voting without regard for the direct interest of one's country, which is a very small step from actually voting against the interest of one country. In other words, it's a good indicator that you're doing it wrong.

They're welcome to request annexation and then apply for statehood if they want, though. I have the same policy there as regards (legal) immigration: there's room for plenty more in this country.

//When are we gonna give Puerto Rico proper statehood, while I'm thread-jacking? They've been ready for bloody decades. Language varying from state to state is not really a big deal, a lot of things vary from state to state.

Puerto Rico has had 3 ballot measures regarding statehood and rejected it each time. It's not hard to see that having all the privledges of being Americans with none of the responsibility would be attractive.

/I'm looking at you too Europe, Japan, and South Korea
//Enjoying American military protection without having to do anything for it.

GoldSpider: SkaGoblin: Just to flip it around, let's say Iran's president was up for election. Or North Korea. Or any of the other nations' leaders who don't like us. Would you be interested in the outcome of those elections, or would you simply ignore it because "you can't vote there"?

It doesn't hurt to pay attention to such things, and one is certainly entitled to an opinion. However a poll such as this is a pretty silly waste of time, as it has absolutely no bearing on the outcome.

Perhaps, but it's Europe. They have to have something to do after that 4 hour work day.

/yeah, I'm jealous
//Although discounting Farking I probably do less than that

Wince_Meet: and Europe doesn't vote for our President.
Most irrelevent news story of the day.

You're obviously not married.

If the wife wants to buy a ugly-ass minivan with her own money, how much of a say should the hubby have for/against it? He's not going to drive it. It is not coming out of his automobile allowance. But yet, he's going to be affected by it indirectly.

Same thing here. Europe will be affected by our decision. While I wouldn't vote for Obama just to appease Europe, I would, however, realize that backing McCain might result in increased tensions with our neighbors across the Pond.

If I were evenly split between the two, it might be enough to tip the balance on way or the other. But that is about all it would do.

Of course!

Europe has a long history of voting black men into office.

Europe has a long history of racial peace and tolerance.

Europe has a long history.

/ 1 out of 3

SkaGoblin: let's say Iran's president (we all know who he is, I can't be bothered to look up the spelling) was up for election. Or North Korea. Or any of the other nations' leaders who don't like us. Would you be interested in the outcome of those elections, or would you simply ignore it because "you can't vote there"?

I've never been polled about it, much less those results published in that country.

Wolframkerngeschoss: I guess you have no problem at all with Putin, Ahmadinejad or Chavez.

You're missing the point. Our opinion of those guys is COMPLETELY irrelevant to their respective countries' elections.

homerdrew415:
/I'm looking at you too Europe
//Enjoying American military protection without having to do anything for it.

Protection against what? You can leave anytime.

/you're welcome?

captain_napalm: Renart: Which Arab presidential candidate are you talking about? Ralph Nader?

your barely black messiah is actually more arab. hth.

Hmmm, Ralph Nader's parents were from Lebanon and Egypt, and Nader grew up speaking Arabic and English. Obama's father was Kenyan of the Luo tribe and his mother was a white woman from Kansas, and Obama grew up speaking English. You keep using that word "Arab." I do not think it means what you think it means.

TheOther: Of course!

Europe has a long history of voting black men into office.

Europe has a long history of racial peace and tolerance.

Europe has a long history.

/ 1 out of 3

If Barack Obama becomes President, we are guaranteed at least four years of lording it over our European cousins.

"*Sigh* You backwards neanderthals, you aren't sophisticated enough or inclusive enough to elect someone other than an old white man or woman as the leader of your country. Oh well, one day you too may be something other than narrow-minded crypto-racists."

/stockpiling verbal ammunition as we speak. Certain Fark threads will be a lot of fun.

GoldSpider: Our opinion of those guys is COMPLETELY irrelevant to their respective countries' elections.

Not really. In each of those countries, there's an anti-American vote to be gained, especially where Washington may be pondering a "regime change" approach.
And at least Israeli opinion seems to play a role in US elections, doesn't it?

/it's called "leader of the free world" for a reason

TheOther: Of course!

Europe has a long history of voting black men into office.

Europe has a long history of racial peace and tolerance.

Europe has a long history.

/ 1 out of 3

Zing! As a bonus I love how the Germans are calling Obama the Schvartze JFK...

Wolframkerngeschoss: homerdrew415:
/I'm looking at you too Europe
//Enjoying American military protection without having to do anything for it.

Protection against what? You can leave anytime.

/you're welcome?

Well we did offer the largest military aide lift of all time to keep your grandparents from starving to death, living under the heel of the Soviet Union, all while ignoring the genocide they attempted on my people. Throw in the huge US military presence that kept the Soviet tanks from rolling into Germany and across into Western Europe, and you might have a few things we protected you from. As for leaving any time, just keep tempting us, it may happen. Just don't do any geopolitical drunk dialing when Mother Russia decides it wants to have a bit of western expansion.

/God I have never ending amounts of hate for pretentious Germans..
//I'll teach my grandchildren and their grandchildren and more to hate the Germans. Also it won't hurt that video games will help reinforce this.
///Collective middle finger to the Deutchland.

Conservatives' biggest failing when it comes to foreign policy is that they didn't realize that Europe went from a lot of war-torn biatch countries that owed us everything to a superpower with a larger GDP than we have. They still try to treat France, Germany, and Great Britain like they're little socialist pests who can't take care of themselves. Too bad, because those little socialist pests became big socialist powerhouses. The 'way of the future' no longer resides with America. We let it go because we decided tax cuts were more important than moving forward.

If anything, that make Barrak less appealing.

England you have cameras on every city corner
France has race riots and thousands dying when the temp goes over 90.
Germany you're not allowed to remember Nazis exist
Italy reelects known crooks ever other year
Russia has basically a mafia-style government

I think we'll keep the voting to US Citizens. (And dead people and illegal aliens)

Oh yeah, and I forgot to add for Wolframkerngeschoss: Suck auf meinem großen jüdischen Hahn.

/farking Nazis

homerdrew415: Wolframkerngeschoss: Suck auf meinem großen jüdischen Hahn.

Habst du mein schwanz gesehen? Woh ist mein schwanz?!?!

or would you simply ignore it because "you can't vote there"?


No.

He'd ignore it because he's an idiot

Far be it from me to suggest your a totally farking uninformed moron, but have you any idea how much state mandated school time on Naziism there is in Germany to make sure that they never do it again or did you just make that up?

homerdrew415: Throw in the huge US military presence that kept the Soviet tanks from rolling into Germany and across into Western Europe, and you might have a few things we protected you from.

Present tense. Do you speak it?

As for leaving any time, just keep tempting us, it may happen.

Don't worry, I will.

Just don't do any geopolitical drunk dialing when Mother Russia decides it wants to have a bit of western expansion.

Riiight. We're all still scared of the bad Russians and the huge threat they pose to... Chechnya, maybe.

And yeah, I've eaten a Hahn or two. No dicks, though.