Seven years ago, I would have dismissed this story as tinfoil-hatted paranoia.

That was a pre-John Woo world.

The death of Democracy shall be greeted with thunderous applause

Ya well what else is new? There have been fascists trying to take over this country for a long time now.

It's a good thing Bush is a complete moron, or we'd be under martial law by now.

You can silence me, but you can't silence Collier's Magazine!

Tell the people!

I, for one, am glad there are COG plans. Because when the time comes that they need to be implemented, it will be way too late to 'devise' a working plan.

Not everything can be transparent.

TFA: When he communicated his decision to the White House, Bush's men told him, in so many words, to take his concerns and stuff them in an undisclosed location.

Heh.

Satan_Sunburn: I, for one, am glad there are COG plans. Because when the time comes that they need to be implemented, it will be way too late to 'devise' a working plan.

Not everything can be transparent.


Da, Comrade...

You know what would be really scary? If the government went as far as to build secret bunkers to hide members of all branches of the government as part of this kind of contingency plan.

quite honestly, if there is a major attack on this country i damn well hope our government has a plan ready to be implemented. my concerns are over the duration and specifics of such a plan - i don't quite trust a politician to simply hand over powers such as these on their own.

Nestea Plunge: In the event of a nuclear war, do not expect any federal assistance for two weeks or until ambient fallout radiaton is at an acceptable level.

in the event of nuclear war, i expect to be dead.

bales: quite honestly, if there is a major attack on this country i damn well hope our government has a plan ready to be implemented. my concerns are over the duration and specifics of such a plan - i don't quite trust a politician to simply hand over powers such as these on their own.

... or have access to a database of millions of Americans considered a "threat" for reasons known only to them.

Dancin_In_Anson: You know what would be really scary? If the government went as far as to build secret bunkers to hide members of all branches of the government as part of this kind of contingency plan.

Why aren't we? We cannot allow a mine shaft gap!

keylock71:

Heh, you just made the list...

burndtdan: in the event of nuclear war, i expect to be dead.

Not I. I would suspect that Anson, Texas isn't high on the target list. But with some luck, Bill Hick's dream might come true.

burndtdan: Nestea Plunge: In the event of a nuclear war, do not expect any federal assistance for two weeks or until ambient fallout radiaton is at an acceptable level.

in the event of nuclear war, i expect to be dead.

...in the event of nuclear war, the survivors will envy the dead.

You guys are all giving me flashbacks to my grade school days...

Dancin_In_Anson: burndtdan: in the event of nuclear war, i expect to be dead.

Not I. I would suspect that Anson, Texas isn't high on the target list. But with some luck, Bill Hick's dream might come true.

i currently live about 10 minutes from a naval base, and in the fall i'm moving to boston. i'm farked.

Code_Archeologist: burndtdan: Nestea Plunge: In the event of a nuclear war, do not expect any federal assistance for two weeks or until ambient fallout radiaton is at an acceptable level.

in the event of nuclear war, i expect to be dead.

...in the event of nuclear war, the survivors will envy the dead.

i expect to be dead, but i secretly hope to just become a mutant zombie that feeds on survivors and worships a defunct missile underground.

What the hell? I just clicked on a thread, and somehow I timewarped back to 1985.

gilgigamesh: What the hell? I just clicked on a thread, and somehow I timewarped back to 1985.

maybe your mouse short circuited and shot you with 1.21 gigawatts

Nestea Plunge: Texas has the refueling and refitting center at Kelly Air Force Base

250 miles away. Dyess is much closer (25 miles). A target? Perhaps. However, military targeting has not been the primary objective of those who have done such things in the US.

has camoflaged ICBM sites

Dyess was the last place in Texas that had nukes save for Pantex. They were pulled in the 90's.

I'd expect Dallas, Austin and Houston to be targeted for reasons of population and economic centers.

Closest is 200 miles (Dallas).

burndtdan: Nestea Plunge: In the event of a nuclear war, do not expect any federal assistance for two weeks or until ambient fallout radiaton is at an acceptable level.

in the event of nuclear war, i expect to be dead.

Oh man, this. I live two blocks from the Pentagon, and about a half-mile from National Airport (I can see the runways from my balcony). If there's ever a major attack on the DC area, I doubt I'll even realize it's happening before I'm vaporized.

Back on-topic for a bit, though, this sort of thing will be a real test of the Democrats if Obama gets elected this fall: just how many of these insane surveillance programs will he expose and/or stop? If he gets into office and puts the smackdown on extra-Constitutional BS like this, he's earned my perpetual respect.

Of course, if Congress' behavior on the subject is any indication, it'll be more of the same, so I'm not holding my breath. It'd just be nice.

Satan_Sunburn: I, for one, am glad there are COG plans. Because when the time comes that they need to be implemented, it will be way too late to 'devise' a working plan.

Not everything can be transparent.

Only if this plan is the Anti-Zombie Contingency.

keylock71: You guys are all giving me flashbacks to my grade school days...

If you liked that movie, you need to also check out "Threads" if you haven't yet.

I'm not worried - i've planned ahead. I'm only 3 miles from a primary target site. A milisecond of brilliant light, and it's over.

Ah, so I see, according to some, having a contingency plan in time of crisis is a bad idea.

PC LOAD LETTER: The death of Democracy shall be greeted with thunderous applause

Good job with the Star Wars reference. Mostly a kiddy movie, but a few serious themes.

Shaggy_C: Ah, so I see, according to some, having a contingency plan in time of crisis is a bad idea.

You know who else had a contingency plan?

Weaver95: I'm not worried - i've planned ahead. I'm only 3 miles from a primary target site. A milisecond of brilliant light, and it's over.

You could always just hide in the refrigerator.

itazurakko: keylock71: You guys are all giving me flashbacks to my grade school days...

If you liked that movie, you need to also check out "Threads" if you haven't yet.

we watched that in secondary school. way to scare the ever loving stuffing out of a bunch of 16 year olds guys!

The biggest concern from the fallout will obviously be Godzilla.

yet another thing that will never happen, but people will treat bush as if he's personally done it ten times already.

itazurakko: keylock71: You guys are all giving me flashbacks to my grade school days...

If you liked that movie, you need to also check out "Threads" if you haven't yet.

Nope, haven't seen it, but I'll check it out. Thanks.

I dig apocalyptical movies...

Shaggy_C: Ah, so I see, according to some, having a contingency plan in time of crisis is a bad idea.

nah, it's just after watching this admin abuse their power so frequently some folks see this in terms of what it could be used for in the wrong hands.

If some guy with a website says so I believe it

unexplained bacon: nah, it's just after watching this admin abuse their power so frequently some folks see this in terms of what it could be used for in the wrong hands.

It's worrying given the current administration, to be sure, but comments like this:

dudemanbro: Ya well what else is new? There have been fascists trying to take over this country for a long time now.

strike me as a bit, well, overreaching.

unexplained bacon: nah, it's just after watching this admin abuse their power so frequently some folks see this in terms of what it could be used for in the wrong hands.

just like the bombs that aren't going to drop on iran this fall? feel free to cast aspersions anyway as if bush personally dropped 'em.

oh and feel free to keep running obama against bush - I guarantee he'll get more votes than bush this fall, only McCain will get more than both.

Many people consider Abraham Lincoln to be one of the greatest presidents ever. His administration ran roughshod over the Constitution. I don't see how the current, or a future, US government would be different. If history is any indicator, the president that oversees the subversion of the Constitution will go down as one of the most respected presidents.

Mentat: You could always just hide in the refrigerator.

Only if its a medical refrigerator, built to survive many wars.

Hang On Voltaire: If some guy with a website says so I believe it

And lets just wait for this administration to say its not true and believe that! WOO HOO

captain_napalm: unexplained bacon: nah, it's just after watching this admin abuse their power so frequently some folks see this in terms of what it could be used for in the wrong hands.

just like the bombs that aren't going to drop on iran this fall? feel free to cast aspersions anyway as if bush personally dropped 'em.

oh and feel free to keep running obama against bush - I guarantee he'll get more votes than bush this fall, only McCain will get more than both.

Obama can run against Bush and win as long as McCain keeps humping his leg like a retarded Jack Russell Terrier.

Nestea Plunge: In the event of a nuclear war, do not expect any federal assistance

FTFY

A full blown nuclear war would be Katrina x 100,000

Having long since settled on my "if I'm not dead" plan (involves a nice walk over to fireclown's house), I'm more concerned with not being vaporized, burned to a crisp, or dying of radiation sickness (depending on where The Bomb is dropped).

/P-Funk may drop "Da Bomb" as they see fit. Millions will get "seriously freaky".

HansensDisease: Nestea Plunge: In the event of a nuclear war, do not expect any federal assistance

FTFY

A full blown nuclear war would be Katrina x 100,000

There will be 100,000 pictures of people looting Heinekens?

MCStymie: HansensDisease: Nestea Plunge: In the event of a nuclear war, do not expect any federal assistance

FTFY

A full blown nuclear war would be Katrina x 100,000

There will be 100,000 pictures of people looting Heinekens?

If they are white, they will be salvaging what they can. If they are black they will be looting like hell!

captain_napalm: unexplained bacon: nah, it's just after watching this admin abuse their power so frequently some folks see this in terms of what it could be used for in the wrong hands.

just like the bombs that aren't going to drop on iran this fall? feel free to cast aspersions anyway as if bush personally dropped 'em.

what the fark are you talking about?

what I said is true, the reason people over react to these kinds of plans is that they don't trust bush. what do you disagree with exactly?

I didn't say I thought bush would use this that way, frankly I don't think he could pull something like that off. even, if there were some terrible attack. his reputation is in the toilet.

oh and feel free to keep running obama against bush - I guarantee he'll get more votes than bush this fall, only McCain will get more than both.

I wonder if you're mistaking me for someone else, I didn't say anything about obama.

since your post was a bit incoherent I'm not sure if you're trying to defend bush. but, if you are, let me tell you I've never felt more confident about obama's presidential bid than when a bush fan tells me it's not gonna happen. bushies have bet on the opposite side of right for many years now. thanks for your support.

I'm about 10 miles from Point Mugu Naval Base, so I'm getting a kick out of the possibility of instant vaporization.