B-b-but the morons keep telling me we're not in a technical recession because they have a defined rule for a recession. "Two negative quarters of growth." This can't be true. The idiots say so.

Oh, Lord Larry Kudlow. Spin this for me.

Rupert Murdoch voting for a Democrat. Yeah. And I just grew a set of wings so I don't have to pay $15 to haul my crap on American Airlines.

Hey, I'll be voting for the Democrat (assuming it's Obama), something I would have considered nearly impossible eight years ago and unlikely four years ago. So anything's possible.

Murdoch is a business man. He created Fox News to turn a profit by showing themselves as a "conservative-biased" news agency and all the "conservatives" in the country ate it up. It's a business, nothing more. I've never thought he was really into it.

wejash: Rupert Murdoch voting for a Democrat. Yeah. And I just grew a set of wings so I don't have to pay $15 to haul my crap on American Airlines.

Really? Do you think you can haul mine for $5. That's a month of totalfark right there.

wejash: Rupert Murdoch voting

WTF? Is he American now? I thought he was just another scum sucking head of a MultiNationalCorporation who doesn't give a shiat about this country except as a source of income.

Dogs and cats, living together, mass hysteria!

Murdoch is a bastich but he is smart. you don't get where he is making mistakes.

Obama, at least to me, was a lot more attractive before he put his foot in his mouth with the talking without preconditions BS.

I could take the rev wright issue since he finally admitted wright was an asshat (and yes that was an issue).

I liked that he has moved away from saying we will move out of Iraq no matter what.

NewportBarGuy: B-b-but the morons keep telling me we're not in a technical recession because they have a defined rule for a recession. "Two negative quarters of growth." This can't be true. The idiots say so.

Oh, Lord Larry Kudlow. Spin this for me.

Which recent quarter was negative?

NewportBarGuy: B-b-but the morons keep telling me we're not in a technical recession because they have a defined rule for a recession. "Two negative quarters of growth." This can't be true. The idiots say so.

Oh, Lord Larry Kudlow. Spin this for me.

I thought the problem was morons who can understand that the economy doesn't technically have to be in a recession to for it to be in trouble.

Control_this: wejash: Rupert Murdoch voting

WTF? Is he American now? I thought he was just another scum sucking head of a MultiNationalCorporation who doesn't give a shiat about this country except as a source of income.

He became an American so he could buy part of the media there, I suppose he must of revoked his Australian passport?

liam76: Obama, at least to me, was a lot more attractive before he put his foot in his mouth with the talking without preconditions BS.

I could take the rev wright issue since he finally admitted wright was an asshat (and yes that was an issue).

I liked that he has moved away from saying we will move out of Iraq no matter what.

BS on your BS. You've been in just about every Obama thread, with the exact same prose - "I liked Obama before [Insert new manufactured controversy here]"

liam76: Obama, at least to me, was a lot more attractive before he put his foot in his mouth with the talking without preconditions BS.

Yes, that is a concerning statement, isn't it?

Obama or Clinton in the White House would be a great boon to Fox News, Limbaugh, and Hannity.

It's pretty hard to convince people that Liberals™ are responsible for the failure of the GOP to make good on its promises despite the fact that they controlled both the White House and Congress and had a sympathetic Supreme Court for six years. It would be easier, more fun, and more lucrative to go on the attack in Persecuted Christian mode.

I'll believe he's genuine when he apologises for his role in the last 8 years' foreign and domestic policies.

GWShenlong05: liam76: Obama, at least to me, was a lot more attractive before he put his foot in his mouth with the talking without preconditions BS.

I could take the rev wright issue since he finally admitted wright was an asshat (and yes that was an issue).

I liked that he has moved away from saying we will move out of Iraq no matter what.

BS on your BS. You've been in just about every Obama thread, with the exact same prose - "I liked Obama before [Insert new manufactured controversy here]"

C'mon, he is concerned. He just wants what is best for Obama.

HotWingConspiracy: GWShenlong05: liam76: Obama, at least to me, was a lot more attractive before he put his foot in his mouth with the talking without preconditions BS.

I could take the rev wright issue since he finally admitted wright was an asshat (and yes that was an issue).

I liked that he has moved away from saying we will move out of Iraq no matter what.

BS on your BS. You've been in just about every Obama thread, with the exact same prose - "I liked Obama before [Insert new manufactured controversy here]"

C'mon, he is concerned. He just wants what is best for Obama.

I disliked Obama (well, we wasn't my first choice anyway) until I started meeting people who disliked him and listened to their reasons for disliking him: I determined that if these idiots don't like him, he must be the best thing for America since George Washington.

GWShenlong05: liam76: Obama, at least to me, was a lot more attractive before he put his foot in his mouth with the talking without preconditions BS.

I could take the rev wright issue since he finally admitted wright was an asshat (and yes that was an issue).

I liked that he has moved away from saying we will move out of Iraq no matter what.

BS on your BS. You've been in just about every Obama thread, with the exact same prose - "I liked Obama before [Insert new manufactured controversy here]"

Yup, the very definition of "concern troll".

I'm open-minded about him, the best thing for this country would *be* for him to be the real thing. I don't care what any dick head thinks, I don't see anyone better available, so I say give him a shot.

He's obviously smart, obviously likes to work hard. The last eight years have shown you can't take that for granted in your President...

- Well, he was a lot more attractive to me before he started wearing that pink tie, but I'm not so sure, now... garrrr I think we oughta vote for the other fella.

If you believe a word that comes out of his mouth, you are an idiot. His whole news organization is based upon "fair and balanced". What better way to perpetuate that slogan than the CEO coming out and saying he may vote democrat. He is an actor, and he is playing his role. His only concern is counting his money at the end of the day.

Yeah, whatever.
Go back to Austria, Hans!

C'mon...you know Murdoch's only planning on voting for Obama because he swallowed the Limbaugh Kool-Aid and thinks McCain can beat him over Hillary.

KeatingFive: HotWingConspiracy: GWShenlong05: liam76: Obama, at least to me, was a lot more attractive before he put his foot in his mouth with the talking without preconditions BS.

I could take the rev wright issue since he finally admitted wright was an asshat (and yes that was an issue).

I liked that he has moved away from saying we will move out of Iraq no matter what.

BS on your BS. You've been in just about every Obama thread, with the exact same prose - "I liked Obama before [Insert new manufactured controversy here]"

C'mon, he is concerned. He just wants what is best for Obama.

I disliked Obama (well, we wasn't my first choice anyway) until I started meeting people who disliked him and listened to their reasons for disliking him: I determined that if these idiots don't like him, he must be the best thing for America since George Washington.

Your jib, I like the cut of it.

drkleindmd: If you believe a word that comes out of his mouth, you are an idiot. His whole news organization is based upon "fair and balanced". What better way to perpetuate that slogan than the CEO coming out and saying he may vote democrat. He is an actor, and he is playing his role. His only concern is counting his money at the end of the day.

I believe all the big business types think Obama can win, but they're waiting to see if he can be bought before they throw their weight behind him.

Holy Shiat. Bunker. Me. NOW!

Wendy's Chili: I believe all the big business types think Obama can win, but they're waiting to see if he can be bought before they throw their weight behind him.

I think they realize that the GOP's only chance this year was if the Democrats ran someone so awful the could get out the vote against her, and now that Hillary is nothing more than a punchline, their cozying up to Obama.

Not only will he win by a wide margin, the Democrats will pick up 4-5 senators and a dozen congressman, which is a bigger deal for business people.

Obama is the only candidate as of yet who has directly addressed reckless deregulation as a primary cause for the runaway boom markets we keep seeing. Has McCain even mentioned Glass-Steagall? Does he even know what it is? Doubtful. Hillary's message on the economy is a bunch of 'feel-good' rhetoric -- I've yet to hear solid policy positions from her aside from promising to 'give relief to hard working families' by transferring wealth directly into their pockets.

Shaggy_C: Obama is the only candidate as of yet who has directly addressed reckless deregulation as a primary cause for the runaway boom markets we keep seeing. Has McCain even mentioned Glass-Steagall? Does he even know what it is? Doubtful. Hillary's message on the economy is a bunch of 'feel-good' rhetoric -- I've yet to hear solid policy positions from her aside from promising to 'give relief to hard working families' by transferring wealth directly into their pockets.

This.

drkleindmd: He is an actor, and he is playing his role.

Do you really think Fox news mouthbreathers know who the CEO of the larger conglomerate is, let alone care what he thinks or says?

Heh. Before that he was cozying up to Hillary Clinton. Had a fundraiser for her and everything. How'd that work out for her?

Run, Barack! Run as fast as you can!

FutureMarkets: He became an American so he could buy part of the media there, I suppose he must of revoked his Australian passport?

You are aware that dual citizenships are not only possible, but fairly common?

The one policy he talks about, drilling offshore, is one that Obama will never endorse.

Operation Chaos Motherfarkers!
Oh...wait. He's doing it wrong.

/No hate like conservative hate

wejash: Rupert Murdoch voting for a Democrat. Yeah. And I just grew a set of wings so I don't have to pay $15 to haul my crap on American Airlines.

Rupert Murdoch's newspapers in the UK were heavily behind Margaret Thatcher in the 1980s. Now: see if any of this sounds familiar to you GOP boys...

Rupert Murdoch helped the Conservatives hype up a foreign war with former friends that cost billions, and those that said it should not have happened were labeled 'traitors'.

He helped perpetuate the image that Conservatives were the part of employment (employment rose dramatically to 4 million under Thatcher, and was down to under 2 million under Blair). He helped spread the talking point that the Tories were the party of godliness (the multitude of Conservative sex scandals put a stop to that nonsense).

He also helped perpetuate the old "Conservatives are the fiscal responsible ones", which lasted right up to the bit where Black Wednesday forced the Tories to withdraw the pound from currency fix, the European Exchange Rate Mechanism (ERM) after they were unable to keep Sterling above its agreed lower limit when currency markets believed the policy was unsustainable. The most high profile of the currency market investors, George Soros, made over US$1 billion profit.

Which means George Soros, the person so hated by the [f]right-wing over here, put his money where his mouth was by betting against the Conservative way of doing business. So now, boys and girls, you all know why the GOP hates him so much... they fear him because he was 100% correct and they lost their little fluffy dreams based on sound-bites.

Oh, and Murdoch perpetuated the names "The Iron Lady" and "The Decider" in his media.

Eventually, all the Tories started writing books saying "it wasn't me" (Scott McClennan is just the first, trust me). Even when Alberto Gonzales testified over Iraq, he followed Maggie Thatcher's example and gave his answers as "I don't recall"!!

And in the late 1990s, Murdoch said it's time for a change, and that he was endorsing the union-friendly Labour Party.

He did the same thing in his native Australia too. For years he was behind the Conservatives there, then he endorsed Kevin Rudd and Rudd was elected in as Prime Minister of Australia last year.

So there you have it. The Republican Party has followed the UK Conservative playbook to the letter. And what was the result of that in Britain? Well, in 1997 the Tories lost EVERY SINGLE SCOTTISH SEAT IN PARLIAMENT. Their defeat was monumental. And they lost the next two national elections after that too.

The Republicans are still playing by this playbook. And they're wondering why they're looking over the edge of a very dark and deep hole.

Your politicians are eating their own. All of them see the writing on the wall, but they're saying what they need to. And if anyone is still falling for the sound-bites and lies, it just tells me they're gullible. And they know nothing about the recent histories of other English-speaking countries. Or they don't know how to use the internet they're using right now. Either way, I can't stand moaners. Change is coming. Murdoch sees it, and he's an astute businessman (hey, you didn' think he was doing it for anything OTHER than cash, did you???). He's already done it in two other countries when similar things happened, and in every occasion the left-center party gets elected. Deal with it.

NewportBarGuy: B-b-but the morons keep telling me we're not in a technical recession because they have a defined rule for a recession. "Two negative quarters of growth." This can't be true. The idiots say so.

Oh, Lord Larry Kudlow. Spin this for me.

riiiight... because we all know a recession should REALLY be defined as when your cousin's boyfriend's mom loses her job during a republican administration.

Nothing Rupert says relates to what he believes.
Everything Rupert says is an effort to produce a particular effect.
In this case it may be a little saber rattling in McCains direction so as to encourage him to commit more deeply to borrow and spend and other renunciations of common sense he has displayed in the past.

ShutterGeek: Hey, I'll be voting for the Democrat (assuming it's Obama), something I would have considered nearly impossible eight years ago and unlikely four years ago. So anything's possible.

do we have a name for this type of troll yet?

/as if

do we have a name for this type of troll yet?


Delusional Troll from planet Kool-Aid

PirateFreedom: Nothing Rupert says relates to what he believes.
Everything Rupert says is an effort to produce a particular effect.
In this case it may be a little saber rattling in McCains direction so as to encourage him to commit more deeply to borrow and spend and other renunciations of common sense he has displayed in the past.

Or, like I said, he did this already in the UK and Australia (he started in Australia, and he owns the Sky TV network and a few newspapers in the UK).

It's not his first switch, either. In 1972, Murdoch acquired the Sydney morning tabloid The Daily Telegraph. In that year's election, Murdoch threw his growing power behind the Australian Labor Party (translation: left-center Democratic Party) under the leadership of Gough Whitlam and duly saw it win power.

He started by supporting the Left and it won. He then moved to the UK markets, saw a shift in the wind and changed to conservative endorsements. Then he saw another shift (because of the reasons previously mentioned, which the GOP are now repeating) and went back to the Left in the UK.

History repeats. People are people, and will act like people, and Murdoch is worth almost $9 billion (33rd richest man in America) so he knows how to see which way the wind blows.

American Conservatives: you have nobody to blame but yourselves for the way you have repeated history.

Shaggy_C: Obama is the only candidate as of yet who has directly addressed reckless deregulation as a primary cause for the runaway boom markets we keep seeing. Has McCain even mentioned Glass-Steagall? Does he even know what it is? Doubtful. Hillary's message on the economy is a bunch of 'feel-good' rhetoric -- I've yet to hear solid policy positions from her aside from promising to 'give relief to hard working families' by transferring wealth directly into their pockets.

Well put.

I agree, it's a trap. Standard issue political head-fake. They go "oh, maybe..." to make people who don't pay much attention think they are reasonable, then around late October there will be an interview or op-ed piece where they state that they considered both candidates carefully and it really has to be McCain, we'd be crazy to vote for Obama.

It will work on some idiots out there. Sorry, I mean "low-information voters".

TMBGfreak: FutureMarkets: He became an American so he could buy part of the media there, I suppose he must of revoked his Australian passport?

You are aware that dual citizenships are not only possible, but fairly common?

It's not that black and white. Becoming a US Citizen means "renouncing all Princes and potentates" of foreign lands. Theoretically, you are meant to hand in your old passport when being sworn in.

In reality, however, the original country you're from will only accept your new citizenship 100% if you directly inform their consulate or embassy that you are no longer a citizen of their nation. So most people just maintain two passports.

/Dual UK & US national.
//still cheered on England in the footie yesterday.
///c'MON: it was on ESPN Classic yesterday afternoon...
////Ah screw you guys.

Murdoch=W. Randolf Hearst

DudeAbides

I lol'd.

Yeah. I can't say anything about this guy with any certainty except that he's a clever bastard, and he sees this move as profitable. He could be using this as a foundation for a renewed concern trolling effort in order to undermine the current political tide. Alternatively he could see that the money is shifting left, and is attempting to position himself so as to take advantage of that. If that's true we can expect him to try to aquire some more left-leaning media or even shift Fox closer to the realm of reality and analysis based news reporting (maybe even sacking some of the less popular conservative pundits and replacing them with moderates. I don't see Billo or Hannity going anywhere though.)

captain_napalm: ShutterGeek: Hey, I'll be voting for the Democrat (assuming it's Obama), something I would have considered nearly impossible eight years ago and unlikely four years ago. So anything's possible.

do we have a name for this type of troll yet?

What is trollish about what I said?

dhudd: Murdoch=W. Randolf Hearst

Funny, I just made that connection in my head while going to grab some coffee. More than a few parallels in the sensationalist and irresponsible way he's used his media empire to promote half-truths and lies in order to drive us to war.

ShutterGeek: captain_napalm: ShutterGeek: Hey, I'll be voting for the Democrat (assuming it's Obama), something I would have considered nearly impossible eight years ago and unlikely four years ago. So anything's possible.

do we have a name for this type of troll yet?

What is trollish about what I said?

Welcome to modern-era Fark, where anybody who doesn't agree with you is called a troll.