... while money comes out of his ass

I thought that's where the poetry comes out?

/Ride the snake!
//BEYOTCH!

Ray Manzarek was an organ player for one of the most fantastically over-rated bands in the history of the species during one of the most over-rated cultural period in history. Why is this newsworthy?

b2theory: Ray Manzarek was an organ player for one of the most fantastically over-rated bands in the history of the species during one of the most over-rated cultural period in history. Why is this newsworthy?

Worst part was he was the most talented member of the band. And boy, does he know it.

Kyosuke:
Worst part was he was the most talented member of the band. And boy, does he know it.

I was under the impression that Robby Krieger wrote and composed most of their hits.

awesome headline

Kyosuke: b2theory: Ray Manzarek was an organ player for one of the most fantastically over-rated bands in the history of the species during one of the most over-rated cultural period in history. Why is this newsworthy?

Worst part was he was the most talented member of the band. And boy, does he know it.

Kreiger was a fantastic and unique guitarist (no-pick; open handed) and Densmore was a great drummer (real keen on then-emerging Latin motifs).

Densmore's bio RIDERS ON THE STORM is a good read into a 1st hand account into the nuts & bolts of the music itself as well as Morrison's insanity.

As long as he plays him I'd watch it.

Jim Morrison wrote the words... he was a poet.

Gotta love those 41st anniversary celebrations! They are always the best!

I personally liked Danny Sugarman's account of working for the Doors: Wonderland Ave.

Tr0mBoNe: Morrison wrote the words... he was a poet.

Ride the snake. Ride the snake. To the Lake. The Ancient Lake. The lake is long. Seven Miles. The Snake is old. And his skin is cold.

/not a poet
//loved them when i was like 10
///but also thought poison was cool then too, so...Kyosuke:

b2theory: Worst part was he was the most talented member of the band. And boy, does he know it.

This is true. Morrison was just a drunk who happened to have a pretty cool haunting voice.

If I had a chance to take a swing at that big cash filled piñata, I know I would.

OK, I actually lol'd.

+1 Subby!

Hey, I like The Doors.

b2theory: Ray Manzarek was an organ player for one of the most fantastically over-rated bands in the history of the species during one of the most over-rated cultural period in history. Why is this newsworthy?

Because he has more money than you will ever have?

I agree with rocinante721 for a real bio of the DOORS, read that one. Its not written by someone who would suck morrison's cack, so it's s little less biased .I love how Densmore in that book goes from giving example of Morrison's "genius" but then 2 page later you wonder a what a pure, self-indulging, egocentric arsehole Morrison really was. I think Morrison in the end (no pun) was a great shiat-stirring leader who wrote good enough for rock lyrics, but his poetry is laughable


Also, KUDOS to Densmore for sticking to Morrison's wish and his own belief, and putting up a fight about not whoring The Doors catalog for commercials to the highest bidder

WaltzingMathilda: This is true. Morrison was just a drunk who happened to have a pretty cool haunting voice.

True dat. His "poetry" is only slightly more talented than Henry Rollins'.

Why does Manzarek say pissy little things about Stone's movie? Maybe he didn't like Kyle MacLachlan's performance?

WaltzingMathilda: Tr0mBoNe: Morrison wrote the words... he was a poet.

Ride the snake. Ride the snake. To the Lake. The Ancient Lake. The lake is long. Seven Miles. The Snake is old. And his skin is cold.

/not a poet
//loved them when i was like 10
///but also thought poison was cool then too, so...Kyosuke:

b2theory: Worst part was he was the most talented member of the band. And boy, does he know it.

This is true. Morrison was just a drunk who happened to have a pretty cool haunting voice.

I always wonder about ppl like you and b2theory. Do you post shiat like that because of your own obvious self-esteem issues?

downstairs: WaltzingMathilda: This is true. Morrison was just a drunk who happened to have a pretty cool haunting voice.

True dat. His "poetry" is only slightly more talented than Henry Rollins'.

Let's hear yours, genius!! ^____^

No eternal reward will forgive us now for wasting the dawn

ComicBookGuy: I always wonder about ppl like you and b2theory. Do you post shiat like that because of your own obvious self-esteem issues?

Nah. If you read Morrison without listening to him, it's like reading a poetry book for drunk 1st graders. It's not a slam on his fans because the music was largely enjoyable.

And Manzarek was, by most people's standards, the most talented individual. He provided the keys and the basslines and was quite a musical talent. Saying that one person has more talent than the other in no way implies that the other has no talent at all.

I'm very sorry you are under the impression that people who have criticisms for some things in popular culture must only have them because of self esteem issues. It may say more about yourself.

/This just in: discussion forums on Fark are not only for like-minded individuals to come suck the proverbial cock of the subject matter behind the thread, but to respond to or try to generate discussion involving different viewpoints
//more at 11

WaltzingMathilda: ComicBookGuy: I always wonder about ppl like you and b2theory. Do you post shiat like that because of your own obvious self-esteem issues?

Nah. If you read Morrison without listening to him, it's like reading a poetry book for drunk 1st graders. It's not a slam on his fans because the music was largely enjoyable.

And Manzarek was, by most people's standards, the most talented individual. He provided the keys and the basslines and was quite a musical talent. Saying that one person has more talent than the other in no way implies that the other has no talent at all.

I'm very sorry you are under the impression that people who have criticisms for some things in popular culture must only have them because of self esteem issues. It may say more about yourself.

/This just in: discussion forums on Fark are not only for like-minded individuals to come suck the proverbial cock of the subject matter behind the thread, but to respond to or try to generate discussion involving different viewpoints
//more at 11



agree. Rock lyrics are pretty good... but his poetry books look like they were written by Blake when he was 7 years old

ComicBookGuy: downstairs: WaltzingMathilda: This is true. Morrison was just a drunk who happened to have a pretty cool haunting voice.

True dat. His "poetry" is only slightly more talented than Henry Rollins'.

Let's hear yours, genius!! ^____^

Let's see.

I had some cake.
Some ice cream cake.
It was chocolate.
And coconut too.
It wasn't my birthday,
But I said "hey,
fark you."

meh.

Luckily, one does not need to be a master of any subject in order to appreciate/criticize it. Otherwise, sports arenas would be filled with all-stars instead of drunk, fat armchair referees.

I've always liked Manzarek's answer to a Rolling Stone writer who asked if Morrison actually did whip it out at the famous Miami concert:

"Well, we all know what he did, if he did it. And if he did, how long was it?"

b2theory: Ray Manzarek was an organ player for one of the most fantastically over-rated bands in the history of the species during one of the most over-rated cultural period in history. Why is this newsworthy?

Last week it was John Lennon everyone here was calling a terrible no-talent overrated hack in some weird attempt to make themselves look all cool and independent-thinking-like. I guess this week it's the Doors?

Yeah, simply because they died young some of them have achieved some weird hero status that no one ever deserves, but part of the legend of these people comes from the fact that they were very talented. The Doors were a great band, definitely great in their own time, and they still hold up pretty well today.

Jimi Hendrix is a bit larger than life today, but is it cool to say he was a shiatty guitarist? That Janis Joplin couldn't hold an audience in the palm of her hand? Or that Jim Morrison wasn't unusually charismatic and that the Doors didn't put out a whole slew of pretty great tunes?

I guess so. But whatever, these people were dead before I was born, but I'll still take them over 99.9 per cent of the losers puking out all that whiny emo shiat I hear on my radio every morning, or the bajillion Nickleback soundalikes, or the 1000 different guys who all think screaming in that stupid over-the-top Korn voice is like the most badass thing ever.

WaltzingMathilda 2008-05-27 02:42:39 PM

ComicBookGuy:
Let's hear yours, genius!! ^____^

Let's see.

I had some cake.
Some ice cream cake.
It was chocolate.
And coconut too.
It wasn't my birthday,
But I said "hey,
fark you."

meh.

You two owe me a goddamned keyboard.

//that was as good as anything Morrison ever wrote.

Seriously. I can actually hear him singing about the cake in my head.

"I like any reaction I can get with my music. Just anything to get people to think. I mean if you can get a whole room full of drunk, stoned people to actually wake up and think, you're doing something."

"If my poetry aims to achieve anything, it's to deliver people from the limited ways in which they see and feel."

"Listen, real poetry doesn't say anything; it just ticks off the possibilities. Opens all doors. You can walk through anyone that suits you."

"Some of the worst mistakes of my life have been haircuts."

-JDM

Madbassist1: Seriously. I can actually hear him singing about the cake in my head.

Damn it, now I can too.

/groovy, man

Ray Manzarek was the most talented member of the Doors. He was so good, he went on to produce Echo and the Bunnymen. You think Jim Morrison had Lips like Sugar? No, they were lips like Jack Daniels. So, he moved on with his life. And now, he should move on with Jim's death. Make the movie, Ray. I'll watch it.

Robby Krieger > Ray Manzarek
Ray Manzarek > you

Spazzmodeus: Ray Manzarek was the most talented member of the Doors. He was so good, he went on to produce Echo and the Bunnymen. You think Jim Morrison had Lips like Sugar? No, they were lips like Jack Daniels. So, he moved on with his life. And now, he should move on with Jim's death. Make the movie, Ray. I'll watch it.

Spare Jim some cutter?

Eggs Danny Thomas Style:

Robby Krieger > Ray Manzarek
you = high

WaltzingMathilda: Eggs Danny Thomas Style:

Robby Krieger > Ray Manzarek
you = high


You havent heard enough Krieger. Check out his solo stuff

Eggs Danny Thomas Style: WaltzingMathilda: Eggs Danny Thomas Style:

Robby Krieger > Ray Manzarek
you = high


You havent heard enough Krieger. Check out his solo stuff

Will do. My criticism was based solely on the Doors material.

Spazzmodeus: Ray Manzarek was the most talented member of the Doors. He was so good, he went on to produce Echo and the Bunnymen. You think Jim Morrison had Lips like Sugar? No, they were lips like Jack Daniels. So, he moved on with his life. And now, he should move on with Jim's death. Make the movie, Ray. I'll watch it.

And dont forget the punk band "X"

funny one subby. I remember the Onion had a bit about Ray not saying Jim's name for 15 minutes once...it was funny.

Gotta pay for all that blow Danny Sugarman did in the 70s and 80s.

Eggs Danny Thomas Style: WaltzingMathilda: Eggs Danny Thomas Style:

Robby Krieger > Ray Manzarek
you = high


You havent heard enough Krieger. Check out his solo stuff

Or check out Roadhouse Blues

They need to add some Doors tracks to Rock Band...great way to get people into your music.

Look, you can call Jim a drunk, you can say Ray was an egotistical asshole, but take a listen to the LA Woman album or Morrison Hotel, these guys were good and a heck of a lot of their music has stood the test of time. Will anyone remember some of todays bands 20 or 30 years from now, probably a few of them. Kreiger & Densmore were very good for reasons already mentioned in previous comments posted here.

All the people saying Jim had no talent couldn't hold a candle to his dander.

Everything I know about the Doors I learned from watching The Doors (1990; d. Oliver Stone).

Jim's last words were my absolute favorite:

"Now let's get some tacos."

b2theory: Ray Manzarek was an organ player for one of the most fantastically over-rated bands in the history of the species during one of the most over-rated cultural period in history. Why is this newsworthy?

farking-A-right

Jimbo was just another drug-addled rock musician... may he rot in peace

/that is all

I like the Doors.

All of the Doors were phenomonally talented. Only one of the Doors are remembered for it.

I can see how that would make a guy bitter.

bigbottom: Look, you can call Jim a drunk, you can say Ray was an egotistical asshole, but take a listen to the LA Woman album or Morrison Hotel, these guys were good and a heck of a lot of their music has stood the test of time.

The were good. I don't think Morrison was the "American Poet" he claimed to be, though.

b>ComicBookGuy: b2theory: Ray Manzarek was an organ player for one of the most fantastically over-rated bands in the history of the species during one of the most over-rated cultural period in history. Why is this newsworthy?

Because he has more money than you will ever have?
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GOB: b>ComicBookGuy: b2theory: Ray Manzarek was an organ player for one of the most fantastically over-rated bands in the history of the species during one of the most over-rated cultural period in history. Why is this newsworthy?

Because he has more money than you will ever have?
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I love Worthington's Law.

WaltzingMathilda: GOB: b>ComicBookGuy: b2theory: Ray Manzarek was an organ player for one of the most fantastically over-rated bands in the history of the species during one of the most over-rated cultural period in history. Why is this newsworthy?

Because he has more money than you will ever have?
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I love Worthington's Law.

Guess that makes you as dumb as Einstein