Replace the n with a q and I've heard this shiat before.

This headline brought to you courtesy of the years 2005-2030

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(1995) Iran May Be Able to Build an Atomic Bomb in 5 Years, U.S. and Israeli Officials Fear
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(Dec 2000) Iran threatens 'astounding & unexpected retaliation' if Israel attacks Lebanon, Syria (4)

(Nov 2004 ) Colin Powell announces that the U.S. has intelligence that shows Iran is developing a nuclear missile. Also announces unfortunate typo from a couple years ago mixing up Qs and Ns (thread)

(Jan 2005) Israel claims Iran will have nukes in 12 months; threaten pre-emptive strike. Israel still unable to confirm if it has nukes itself (thread)

(Jun 2006) Stop us if you've heard this one before: So there's this muslim country, right, and they "could develop nuclear weapons in just five years" (thread)

(Nov 2006) To the surprise of absolutely nobody, Israel's deputy defense minister says that military strikes are possible to curtail Iran's nuclear program (thread)

(Nov 2006) Deja vu all over again: White House brushes off report saying that Iran has no nuclear programs (thread)

(Jan 2007) Israel air force training to bomb Iran's nuclear facilities back to the stone age using low-yield nuclear bunker busters. This will end well (547)

(Jan 2007) Israeli think tank: "Israel can attack Iran on its own." Rest of the world: "Be my guest"(125)

(Feb 2007) If the world won't do anything about Iran's nuclear weapons program, Israel will. And they probably won't worry about collateral damage(121)

(Dec 2007) Israel PM warns Iran can develop nuclear bomb by last Tuesd.. a few month...err..2010, yeah, definitely 2010(33)

$8.00 gas, here we come!

The new wave antisemitism is strong with that headline, subby. Criticizing a legitimate concern for a people who live in fear night and day is ignorant or, if well informed, out of hatred of a race of people.

John Titor? Is that you?

Easterned: The new wave antisemitism is strong with that headline, subby. Criticizing a legitimate concern for a people who live in fear night and day is ignorant or, if well informed, out of hatred of a race of people.

You can't be serious. Israel makes a statement. It gets reported. The headline gets written, and thats Anti-Semetic?

Now, now. President Obama is going to have a word with them and everything will be all right. They'll paint each other's toenails and try out new hair styles and pretty soon Iran will be our bestest buddy.

I remember there being an article about Israel and Iran a while back. One topic it discussed was the difference in attitudes between the US and Israel when dealing with a potential Iranian nuke.

For the US, damages from an Iranian bomb would be both unlikely and relatively light. Iran doesn't have the capability to launch a strike against us, and would have to use terrorist organizations to place relatively large nuclear devices in US cities. Even if one of our cities is attacked, we could probably shrug off the effects (provided it's not New York or Washington).

For Israel, damages from an Iranian nuclear strike are much more likely and dangerous. Iran has missiles with the range to strike Tel Aviv, and Israel is many times smaller than the United States. The loss of a large city would be devastating. Even if Iran only had one weapon, the result would be catastrophic for Israel.

Of course, Israel does have it's own nuclear capabilities, but I'm not sure what that looks like, exactly. One can hope that any Iranian threat would be deterred by an Israeli (or US) second strike, but it's difficult to predict the actions of a state that is controlled by religious fanatics. We're dealing with a bunch of fascist theocrats - their whole world view is based around a rejection of reason. How can we accurately predict the behavior of something that possesses a wholly irrational viewpoint?

Tenebreux: Easterned: The new wave antisemitism is strong with that headline, subby. Criticizing a legitimate concern for a people who live in fear night and day is ignorant or, if well informed, out of hatred of a race of people.

You can't be serious. Israel makes a statement. It gets reported. The headline gets written, and thats Anti-Semetic?

Mocking a genuine concern that may affect Israel in a negative way is a form of cloaked antisemitism.

MrKraclenutz: Replace the n with a q and I've heard this shiat before.

When did Israel call for war with Iraq over nukes? Israel has been trying hard NOT to get into all of that mess and they have been since the beginning.

Only_A_Lad: but it's difficult to predict the actions of a state that is controlled by religious fanatics. We're dealing with a bunch of fascist theocrats - their whole world view is based around a rejection of reason. How can we accurately predict the behavior of something that possesses a wholly irrational viewpoint?

you talking about us or Iran?

When will Israel bomb Iran?

The day after we elect McCain for president. Well just bomb away even if Obama is elected and Bush can have his third term because it works.

If it's ok to strike someone out of fear of them doing something in the future then it would be totally fair for Iran to unilaterally and pre emptively attack Israel right?

Anti-Semitism is the tinfoil yarmulke that Zionists wear while shouting down all critics.

If it were possible for Israel to bomb Iran's nuke program without involving the US in any way, I'd say Sure! go nuts!

The firework exchange on CNN would be very amusing to watch, and maybe the spike in the price of a gallon of gas will force us Americans to actually start thinking in the long term.

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That said, I doubt Israel would try taking on Iran without having the US do most of the work.

And even if they did, Iran would probably start dropping dozens of missiles on Baghdad's Green Zone as part of their response, dragging us in regardless.


/I could be wrong.

In other news, people spoiling for a fight usually get one.

ChopSueyKS: When did Israel call for war with Iraq over nukes?

You cannot be a

(profile) student at the George Washington Univeristy studying Middle Eastern Studies and International Affairs.

I don't see how this is possible.

Only_A_Lad:

Of course, Israel does have it's own nuclear capabilities, but I'm not sure what that looks like, exactly. One can hope that any Iranian threat would be deterred by an Israeli (or US) second strike, but it's difficult to predict the actions of a state that is controlled by religious fanatics. We're dealing with a bunch of fascist theocrats - their whole world view is based around a rejection of reason. How can we accurately predict the behavior of something that possesses a wholly irrational viewpoint?

That is the mistake many people make. They assume Iran is not a rational actor and therefore would not be deterred from using nuclear weapons.

What would Iran gain from using nuclear weapons against Israel? World support would instantly rally around Israel and there would be massive retaliation against Iran. Khamenei likes being in power and isn't going to sacrifices that for something that would accomplish very little towards his political or religious goals.

Would it be good if Iran got nuclear weapons? Of course not. Would it be the end of the world? No.

SherKhan: Anti-Semitism is the tinfoil yarmulke that Zionists wear while shouting down all critics.

If you have to go out of your way to be little the problems caused by antisemitism without any prompt or reason for doing so, don't be surprised if people look at you funny.

Only_a_Lad: For the US, damages from an Iranian bomb would be both unlikely and relatively light. Iran doesn't have the capability to launch a strike against us, and would have to use terrorist organizations to place relatively large nuclear devices in US cities. Even if one of our cities is attacked, we could probably shrug off the effects (provided it's not New York or Washington).


Except for the fact that Israel would dust Tehran, and the Shiites in Iraq would go apeshiat on anyone in the way. (HINT: we're in the way, and there's a whole lot of Shiites in Iraq.)

Perhaps if they release the evidence they used to obtain this information, I'd be more inclined to believe them.

I don't want to get lied into another war, if Iran is building nukes, I want stone cold evidence, nothing less.

Party Boy: ChopSueyKS: When did Israel call for war with Iraq over nukes?

You cannot be a (profile) student at the George Washington Univeristy studying Middle Eastern Studies and International Affairs. I don't see how this is possible.

Well, I'm currently on summer break, but yes, I'm still a student there. Perhaps you could prove me wrong rather than attacking my education?

ChopSueyKS:

If you have to go out of your way to be little the problems caused by antisemitism without any prompt or reason for doing so, don't be surprised if people look at you funny.

That's a racist thing to say.

/makes as much sense as spurious charges of anti-Semitism

ChopSueyKS: Perhaps you could prove me wrong rather than attacking my education?

okay. sec

Well, at least Israel won't fark around. They'll go in , do the job, and get out. Meanwhile, President Obama can help the UN draft a strongly worded letter.

SherKhan: ChopSueyKS:

If you have to go out of your way to be little the problems caused by antisemitism without any prompt or reason for doing so, don't be surprised if people look at you funny.

That's a racist thing to say.

/makes as much sense as spurious charges of anti-Semitism

No one was calling you antisemitic, no one was talking about antisemitism, no one was even talking about Judaism...yet out of the blue you talk about how antisemitism is just a front for pushing Zionist ideology. Don't be surprised if that gem doesn't work on the first date either.

Rodeodoc: Well, at least Israel won't fark around. They'll go in , do the job, and get out. Meanwhile, President Obama can help the UN draft a strongly worded letter McCain will support Israel and send troops forcing the poor to be drafted.

FTFY.

ChopSueyKS

have you got "easterned" on ignore?

anyone who thinks the rest of the world would sit still for this when oil prices are so high already is crazy. The Chinese,Russians,French,India and others need that oil and disrupting supply over Israel's "fears" is not going to cut it.
Israel should watch itself as it and this administration are dangerously close to forcing the rest of the world to align against us.

Oh I wonder why they dovetails perfectly with American policy before the new President takes the stage.. I farking wonder.

Dude, I was riffing off of Easterned's tits.

/tits, boobies; whatever

ChopSueyKS: Perhaps you could prove me wrong rather than attacking my education?

ChopSueyKS: When did Israel call for war with Iraq over nukes? Israel has been trying hard NOT to get into all of that mess and they have been since the beginning.


# Statement by Former PM Benjamin Netanyahu at the Hearing of the US House Government Reform Committee- Preparing for the war on terrorism (09/20/2001)

* Take away all the state support and the entire scaffolding of international terrorism will collapse into the dust. The international terrorist network is thus based on regimes: on Iraq, on Iran, on Syria, on Taliban Afghanistan, Yasser Arafat's Palestinian authority, and several other Arab regimes such as the Sudan. These regimes are the ones that harbor the terrorist groups. Osama bin Laden in Afghanistan, Hizbullah and others in Syrian controlled Lebanon, Hamas Islamic Jihad, and the recently mobilized Fatah and Tanzim factions in the Palestinian territories, and sundry other terror organizations based in such capitals as Damascus, Baghdad, and Khartoum.
* This is why the U.S. must do everything in its power to prevent regimes, like Iran and Iraq, from developing nuclear weapons and to disarm them of their weapons of mass destruction.

# Netanyahu warns Congress against including PA, Syria, Iran in coalition (09/21/2001) Jerusalem Post

* Former prime minister Binyamin Netanyahu, testifying before the House Government Reform Committee, said yesterday that if the US includes terrorism-sponsoring regimes like Syria, Iran, or the Palestinian Authority in a coalition against worldwide terrorism, then the alliance "will be defeated from the beginning." Netanyahu, aligning himself with those like Deputy Secretary of Defense Paul Wolfowitz - who would like the US war to include action against Iraq, a terrorist-sponsoring state bent on acquiring weapons of mass destruction - warned that a failure to preempt acquisition by Iraq or Iran of such capabilities would lead to hundreds of thousands of casualties

# Next stop, Baghdad? (10/12/2001) Jerusalem Post

* For now, Israeli officials have not engaged the Bush administration on the Iraq question, but rather have lobbied in general for a broader definition of terrorism that includes groups and states bent on Israel's destruction. Prime Minister Ariel Sharon, in his two visits to the US to meet with Bush, focused most of his chat time on the issue of long-range, existential threats to Israel emanating from Iraq and Iran. The Bush administration knows the risks. The question officials are confronting is whether a threat of weapons of mass destruction should be part of the war on terrorism.

# Next stop, Baghdad (11/15/2001) Jerusalem Post

* The regimes in Teheran and Baghdad represent the combination of oppression and aggression that should make them prime candidates for overthrow, like the Taliban in Afghanistan. And of the two, [Saddam Hussein] is both the most brutal to his own people and dangerous to the world. The US should not be shy about saying that, after Kabul, the next place to bring the jubilation of freedom should be either Teheran or Baghdad.

# Saddam plans to send biological arms to Palestinian terror group (08/04/2002) Jerusalem Post

* Iraqi President Saddam Hussein is suspected of planning to arm a Palestinian terrorist group with biological weapons to attack either American or Israeli targets, according to a report in yesterday's London Times.

# Sharon to Panel: Iraq is our Biggest Danger. (08/13/2002) Source: Haaretz and Archive

* Prime Minister Ariel Sharon yesterday told the Knesset Foreign Affairs and Defense Committee that Iraq "is the greatest danger facing Israel."

# Saddam gives $120,000 to families of Hebron 'martyrs'. (08/14/2002) Jerusalem Post

* Saddam is paying $10,000 to the families of Palestinians killed in confrontations with the IDF. Families whose houses are demolished are entitled to $25,000. Yesterday the Post revealed that Saddam has also started providing financial assistance to Arab families in Jerusalem.

# Israel Urges U.S. to Attack (08/16/2002) Washington Post and CBS

* Israel is urging U.S. officials not to delay a military strike against Iraq's Saddam Hussein, an aide to Prime Minister Ariel Sharon said Friday.

* Israeli intelligence officials have gathered evidence that Iraq is speeding up efforts to produce biological and chemical weapons, said Sharon aide Ranaan Gissin.

* "Any postponement of an attack on Iraq at this stage will serve no purpose," Gissin told The Associated Press. "It will only give him (Saddam) more of an opportunity to accelerate his program of weapons of mass destruction."

# Israel Urges to Attack Iraq Sooner Than Later (08/17/2002) Japan Today

* Israel is urging U.S. officials not to delay a military strike against Iraq's Saddam Hussein, an aide to Prime Minister Ariel Sharon said Friday.
* As evidence of Iraq's weapons building activities, Israel points to an order Saddam gave to Iraq's Atomic Energy Commission last week to speed up its work, Gissin said.

# Don't wait for Saddam (8/19/2002) Jerusalem Post

* Israelis are literally dying while waiting for the US to finally move against Saddam and, as a consequence, destabilize the whole radical axis stretching from Yasser Arafat, to Saddam, through to Iran's mullah- ocracy. Israel, which preemptively struck against Iraq's nuclear program as early as 1981, believes that it is critical to preempt now, and not to wait until Saddam is belatedly discovered to be nuclear armed.

# Making the case for war (09/09/2002) Jerusalem Post

* Evidence connects Iraq to the first World Trade Center bombing in 1993. There is also the fact, first doubted but now confirmed, that 9-11 ringleader Muhammad Atta did indeed meet with Iraqi intelligence agent Ahmed Khalil Ibrahim Samir al-Ani in Prague in April 2001. "In the last 14 months," [Michael Gordon] and [Judith Miller] write, "Iraq has sought to buy thousands of specially designed aluminum tubes, which American officials believe were intended as components of centrifuges to enrich uranium." The report also notes that "Hussein has met repeatedly in recent months with Iraq's top nuclear scientists," and that "acquiring nuclear arms is again a top Iraqi priority." The UN inspections team came close to verifying that Iraq was in full compliance with all relevant disarmament resolutions. Revelations from a chance defector proved otherwise. Iraq was discovered to be manufacturing a solid version of VX, manufacturing smallpox virus, 12,500 gallons of anthrax, 2,500 gallons of gangrene, 1,250 gallons of aflotoxin, and 2,000 gallons of botulinum.

# The great global eye-opener (09/10/2002) Jerusalem Post

* Israel has generally benefited from this, as it prefers to see the US involved in world affairs. [9/11 attacks] also enhanced understanding for Israel's situation, and reduced the criticism leveled against Israel's own counterterror campaign. Significantly for Israel, September 11 weakened the international status of the Arab world.
* Similarly beneficial is the declared American goal of a regime change in Iraq. If Saddam Hussein indeed goes as result of an American war on Iraq, the emergence of a democratic regime in Baghdad is doubtful, but Israel will lose a rabid enemy - one of the strongest advocates for its destruction. Such a scenario will weaken the radical stream in the Arab world that, inter alia, has refused to accept Israel and intimidated Arab states from having relations with the Jewish state.

# Benjamin Netanyahu Testifies about Iraq to Congress (09/12/2002) Source: CNN and Netanyahu.org

* And today the United States must destroy the same regime because a nuclear-armed Saddam will place the security of our entire world at risk.
* And make no mistake about it: If and once Saddam has nuclear weapons, the terror network will have nuclear weapons. And once the terror network has nuclear weapons, it is only matter of time before those weapons will did he used.
* Two decades ago, it was possible to thwart Saddam's nuclear ambitions by bombing the single installation. But today, nothing less than dismantling his regime will do because Saddam's nuclear program has fundamentally changed in those two decades. He no longer needs one large reactor to produce the deadly material necessary for atomic bombs. He can produce it in centrifuges the sizes of washing machines that wan be hidden throughout the country.
* And I want to remind you that Iraq is a very big country. It is not the size of Monte Carlo; it is a big country. And I believe that even free and unfettered inspections will not uncover these portable manufacturing sites of mass death.
* So knowing this, I ask all the governments and others who oppose or question the president's plan to look at it from the other end of the logic: Do you believe that action can be taken against Saddam only after he builds nuclear bombs and uses them? And do the various criticism, specially overseas, believe that a clear connection between Saddam and September 11 must be established before we have a right to prevent the next September 11? Well, I think not.

# Israel's take on a justified war (10/10/2002) Jerusalem Post

* It should be said at once that Israel's role in the campaign against Saddam Hussein is a defensive one. The reason is obvious - Israel is liable to become the target of a desperate Saddam's revenge in a situation where the US and Britain are about to attack and destroy his regime in Baghdad. with the arsenal of weapons of mass destruction he has developed so secretly and thoroughly.

It would be hypocritical to say that Israel has no vital interest in the removal of the dictatorial regime in Baghdad. Saddam served as Yasser Arafat's inspiration, long before he sent millions of dollars to finance terrorist activities against Israel and award prizes to the families of the suicide bombers who have murdered hundreds of innocent people in Israel.

# Saddam, al-Qaida intricately linked - expert (10/16/2002) Jerusalem Post

* There is a definite link between al-Qaida and the regime of Iraqi President Saddam Hussein, according to Prof. Amatzia Baram, of the University of Haifa's Department of Middle East History, an expert on Iraqi affairs.

Israel never called for war with Iraq over nukes. Israel bombed Iraq over nukes.

21-7-b: ChopSueyKS

have you got "easterned" on ignore?

Nah, I've never ignored anyone on here.

Liberal Elite:

That is the mistake many people make. They assume Iran is not a rational actor and therefore would not be deterred from using nuclear weapons.

What would Iran gain from using nuclear weapons against Israel? World support would instantly rally around Israel and there would be massive retaliation against Iran. Khamenei likes being in power and isn't going to sacrifices that for something that would accomplish very little towards his political or religious goals.

Would it be good if Iran got nuclear weapons? Of course not. Would it be the end of the world? No.

I'm not saying that Iranian acquisition of nuclear weapons would be the end of the world; I'm saying that it might mean the end of Israel.

And Iran continues to make statements indicating that they would be willing to nuke Israel. Now, that could be just saber rattling and an attempt to show what good Islamists they are, but it could also be a real policy statement. Even if it's just bullshiat, it still indicates a farked up and irrational world view.

All I'm saying is: Israel has every reason to be frightened by Iran's nuclear program. The stakes are much higher for Israel than they are for us.

The key is finding some way to get Iran to give these aspirations up. I think the current combinations of European negotiations and American threats and sanctions are working, to some degree, but a more concerted effort needs to be made amongst the democratic nations.

But in the long run, the only thing that will end the threat of rogue states with nuclear arsenals is the growth of democracy. Iran's citizens have a very strong desire for real democracy in their country, but it's unclear on how to best facilitate that. It may be that the only thing to do is to wait twenty years and hope that the Islamic Republic will fall from within. But that comes up against other timetables (Iranian nukes, potential action against Afghanistan and Iraq, etc.).

Anyways, my point is that wholesale condemnations of Israel on this are misguided. They are responding to what is, to them, a very large and dangerous threat. If California hated Texas and was acquiring nukes, I'd be scared. It's the same with the Israelis. Their fears are not based upon imperialism or ideology (unlike the Iranian programs), but upon a fairly rational assessment of the situation.

uh, why do they want to attack Iran? I forget.

The common Iranian is very modern and educated. They love their families as much as anyone else loves theirs. What grunt would you think would carry out an order like that?

"Some crazy old dude with his head in the clouds ordered me to carry out a mission that will wind up destroying my family and my country in days. Hmmm.... What should I do?"

Plenty of Iranians understand the consequences and I honestly don't know how such an order would be carried out or how the populous would allow that to happen.

/spoken by someone who has no formal education on the subject.

MrKraclenutz Replace the n with a q and I've heard this shiat before.

Israeli intelligence now believe Iran with have qukes by next year? That's one long-ass growing season...

cryptozoophiliac: Israel never called for war with Iraq over nukes. Israel bombed Iraq over nukes.

Whoops, is my face red! I knew they wanted the US to attack Iraq, but I was unaware they were so blatant about it!

Re-adding links

# Saddam plans to send biological arms to Palestinian terror group (08/04/2002) Jerusalem Post

* Iraqi President Saddam Hussein is suspected of planning to arm a Palestinian terrorist group with biological weapons to attack either American or Israeli targets, according to a report in yesterday's London Times.

# Sharon to Panel: Iraq is our Biggest Danger. (08/13/2002) Source: Haaretz

* Prime Minister Ariel Sharon yesterday told the Knesset Foreign Affairs and Defense Committee that Iraq "is the greatest danger facing Israel."

# Saddam gives $120,000 to families of Hebron 'martyrs'. (08/14/2002) Jerusalem Post

* Saddam is paying $10,000 to the families of Palestinians killed in confrontations with the IDF. Families whose houses are demolished are entitled to $25,000. Yesterday the Post revealed that Saddam has also started providing financial assistance to Arab families in Jerusalem.

# Israel Urges U.S. to Attack (08/16/2002) Washington Post and CBS

* Israel is urging U.S. officials not to delay a military strike against Iraq's Saddam Hussein, an aide to Prime Minister Ariel Sharon said Friday.

* Israeli intelligence officials have gathered evidence that Iraq is speeding up efforts to produce biological and chemical weapons, said Sharon aide Ranaan Gissin.

* "Any postponement of an attack on Iraq at this stage will serve no purpose," Gissin told The Associated Press. "It will only give him (Saddam) more of an opportunity to accelerate his program of weapons of mass destruction."

In other news, I fully expect Tatsuma to call us all anti-semites within an hour.

ChopSueyKS:

Nah, I've never ignored anyone on here.

I'm with ya, at least now. I'd toyed with it in a thread weeks ago just to see how it did and forgot I'd put a guy on it until yesterday when he was being oft quoted. He's off it now of course.



I ain't afraid of no posts.

/doo da doo da diddly doo da doo da diddly

cameroncrazy1984: In other news, I fully expect Tatsuma to call us all anti-semites within an hour.

That screwed up hyperjew was obviously projecting his lack of acceptance into his community. I'm sure he's some unaffiliated convert trying to be super jewish, and in that process made everyone anti israeli by supporting every vile act they've done in the past 20 years.

Party Boy:

A good number of those don't relate (i.e. # Statement by Former PM Benjamin Netanyahu at the Hearing of the US House Government Reform Committee- Preparing for the war on terrorism (09/20/2001))

I found at least one whose link doesn't work (Israel Urges to Attack Iraq Sooner Than Later (08/17/2002) Japan Today)

And the remaining show that yes, Israel didn't like Iraq, that much is clear. And yes, Bibi didn't like Iraq, I could have told you that. But I don't see calls from the Israeli government to invade Iraq in here. I would recommend you read the last chapter (or second to last?) of Gideon's Spies. It talks about how Israel was actively engaged in looking for nuclear weapons in Iraq but couldn't find any, told the US they couldn't find any, and then had to carefully maneuver themselves so that they can stay on the US's good side without being forced into a war they knew wasn't worth it.

Oh, and I like your tactic. When I was an intern in Congress and writing letters to various citizens who had written to us, if we didn't want to hear back from a guy we would FLOOD him with information on whatever they were complaining about. We wanted to show that we were the dominant ones who knew way more than they did. Yet, in reality, we were just a group of interns who may or may not of really understood the issue.

ChopSueyKS:

A good number of those don't relate

A bad number do.

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Whitehall dossier says Saddam plans biological weapons for Palestinians
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# Averting strategic disaster in Iraq. (09/20/2002) Jerusalem Post

* The Bush administration's determination to topple Saddam Hussein's regime is by definition a good thing for Israel. Saddam Hussein has repeatedly expressed his dedication to the goal of physically destroying the State of Israel. A nuclear-armed Iraq is a threat that Israel cannot tolerate. Clearly, if the US were not itself determined to go to war to prevent Saddam from achieving nuclear capabilities, Israel, as it did in 1981, would have to act on its own to prevent this, no doubt at tremendous cost.
* With these projections, it is little wonder that there is a general consensus, encompassing such unlikely bedfellows as former prime minister Binyamin Netanyahu and Foreign Minister Shimon Peres, throwing its full support behind a US military offensive in Iraq. A US-led campaign against Iraq is viewed by many as a refutation of the claim that "there is no such thing as a free lunch." Here is Israel's strategic partner and protector, the US, poised to take out one of the regimes that most threatens Israel, and all that we are asked is to sit on the sidelines and keep quiet.

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# "Iraqi Move Puts Israel In Lonely U.S. Corner" by Mark Perelman (09/20/2002) Forward

* Saddam Hussein's surprise acceptance of "unconditional" United Nations weapons inspections put Israel on the hot seat this week, forcing it into the open as the only nation actively supporting the Bush administration's goal of Iraqi regime change. "The campaign against Saddam Hussein is a must," Foreign Minister Shimon Peres flatly told reporters this week in New York, after a meeting with Secretary of State Colin Powell. "Inspections and inspectors are good for decent people, but dishonest people can overcome easily inspections and inspectors." While the dramatic shift at the U.N. has pushed Jerusalem closer to Washington, diplomats and observers warned that it might increase American pressure on Israel - both to moderate its stance toward Iraq and to soften its views on talks with the Palestinians. In particular, observers pointed to heightened American fears of an Israeli retaliation to an Iraqi attack provoking a regional escalation - especially at a time when the U.S. appears to be unexpectedly isolated in its confrontation with Baghdad.

SherKhan: ChopSueyKS:

A good number of those don't relate

A bad number do.

If you wanted to point out one or two you wanted to go into detail about, I'd be more than happy. Otherwise, we will only continue to speak in generalities.

ChopSueyKS: I found at least one whose link doesn't work
I fixed this.

This statement

ChopSueyKS: When did Israel call for war with Iraq over nukes? Israel has been trying hard NOT to get into all of that mess and they have been since the beginning.

is answered.
I do not believe you are a student at the George Washington Univeristy studying Middle Eastern Studies and International Affairs.
I don't see how you could be in that program and make such an egregious error.