no it just means she is delusional. it's not that we don't like women. We just don't like you.

or she's saying republicans are more racist.

Hobodeluxe: no it just means she is delusional. it's not that we don't like women. We just don't like you.


All women are!

No

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isn't she therefore also saying that Republicans are less sexysexist than Democrats?

FTFY

McStinky: isn't she therefore also saying that Republicans are less sexy than Democrats?

FTFY

Well if I had to choose whether to spend a night of passion with either Mccain or Obama I wouldn't take long to decide.

BTW why is it that there is such a shortage of hawt sons of Presidents? Its been nothing but daughters since Bush1.

quickdraw: Well if I had to choose whether to spend a night of passion with either Mccain or Obama I wouldn't take long to decide.

BTW why is it that there is such a shortage of hawt sons of Presidents? Its been nothing but daughters since Bush1.

I wish Bush1 had only had daughters.

Atillathepun: I wish Bush1 had only had daughters.

They would have just found some other puppet.

She's saying she's supposed to be president, but for some strange reason it just might not happen. She's slowly beginning to realize that people vote for these things, with actual people and ballots and stuff. Give her time people, give her time. She might figure this out by January or so.

sokeri: or she's saying republicans are more racist.

or that they're more racist than they are sexist.

or something like that.

If I'm not mistaken, the Republicans didn't have to choose between sexes during this campaign. So how do you make that comparison?

No. It just means Hillary Clinton has strayed too far from the kitchen, which is where she belongs.

/Bill wants his sammich!
//Sexism is bipartisan.
///Misogyny is fun.

Non-Democrat /= Republican
Non-Republican /= Democrat


The logical implication of her (absurd) claim is that non-Democrats are less sexist than Democrats. That means Republicans plus everyone else who's not a Democrat. There are more of the latter than the former.

Metaluna Mutant

The Space Shuttle Columbia is actually a better visual metaphor for the last few days.

If I was given a paper outlining Obama's stance on issues and Clinton's stance on issues, but nothing on either of their backgrounds, gender or race, I'd vote for him. There.

I bet that still doesn't dispel the notion that I'm a misogynistic pig who wants to keep women in the kitchen though. BTW, I readily admit that my girlfriend can beat me up, including at video games.

/hangs head in shame at what he just admitted

The only thing that I have to say is that although I am a staunch democrat, I will vote for McCain if she wins the nomination. She has made my mind up for me. I am ashamed that there was once a time that I defended her. Obama apologized immediately to the reporter he called sweetie. That is a human being who I can respect. Hillary has assassinated the minute political favor I held for her.

My comment for the "sexism" angle of her campaign is that she always throws out her vagina when the going gets tough. She isn't a good person, and therefore isn't a good woman. Not being a good woman, she can't be a proper barometer for sexism, as the dislike and disgust toward her is not for her gender but for her very essence.

Churchill2004: Non-Democrat /= Republican
Non-Republican /= Democrat


The logical implication of her (absurd) claim is that non-Democrats are less sexist than Democrats. That means Republicans plus everyone else who's not a Democrat. There are more of the latter than the former.

Aha! Logic. That's something you don't see every day.

If the two thirds of Americans who are neither Democratic voters nor Republican voters got together they'd be dangerous.

16 women in the US Senate. 11 Dems, 5 Republicans (including Olympia Snowe, the one VP pick that would make McCain seem tempting to me). 8 female Governors, 5 Dems, 3 GOP.

1 black Senator, 2 black Govs.

I'm not buying that either party is terribly sexist, or that sexism is that limiting a factor. Could be because I've had a female Senator, a female Representative, and two female Governors.

But, of those 16 female Senators... Hillary is choice #15 to me (Hutchison is too far right for me).

Churchill2004: Non-Democrat /= Republican
Non-Republican /= Democrat


The logical implication of her (absurd) claim is that non-Democrats are less sexist than Democrats. That means Republicans plus everyone else who's not a Democrat. There are more of the latter than the former.

I hate to say it, but the reality is that a person who is non-democrat and non-republican is non-viable politically in the US. There are some exceptions to the rule, but they are few and far between. Political power lies with the masses.

Lawnchair: 1 black Senator, 2 black Govs.

And remember - one governor is only there because he was lt. governor when his boss decided public funds for sex were a reasonable use of tax payer money.

A: No one cares!

Better A: Go away you evil soulless powerhungry thing!

deadapostle: I hate to say it, but the reality is that a person who is non-democrat and non-republican is non-viable politically in the US

That is a textbook example of a self-fulfilling prophecy.


deadapostle: There are some exceptions to the rule, but they are few and far between.

That's no reason to not keep pushing them.

deadapostle: Political power lies with the masses

Only on paper.

Silly mainstream media, you should know that Hillary can move the goalposts as much as she pleases!

/Never trolled before (on purpose)
//Not a very good start.

So I was reading Kathleen Parker's column the other day, possibly because I am a masochist. She's a conservative free-market Republican, and apparently an anti-suffragist. It was the one about how wonderful it was that this big, strong, dashing Barack Obama was jumping to his weak and docile wife's defense. Because, you know, women need to be protected by their husbands because their brains are smaller and they might faint.

And I realized... here's a woman who seems to think that womens' opinions are unimportant... but she has an opinion column. Figure it out! Either become a feminist, or go bake me a pie.

Ivor the Friendly Viking: Silly mainstream media, you should know that Hillary can move the goalposts as much as she pleases!

/Never trolled before (on purpose)
//Not a very good start.

shiatty Troll, I'm reporting you, enjo y the ban

Churchill2004: non-democrat and non-republican is non-viable politically in the US

That is a textbook example of a self-fulfilling prophecy.
Unfortunately, if and when a new political party comes along to upset the balance, that party will eventually be just as corrupt. I mean, communism looks good on paper too, right?

deadapostle: There are some exceptions to the rule, but they are few and far between.

That's no reason to not keep pushing them.

I still feel this will be a futile effort due to my opinion on the first point.

deadapostle: Political power lies with the masses

Only on paper.

Did I say "with the masses?" I meant "where the cash is." (I aimed for the rhyme)

Perhaps I'm just overly cynical tonight. I used to be a democratic socialist. I suppose I still am, but I'm not a card carrying member anymore. Honestly, I don't like the labels, anyway. It's the fastest way to define roadblocks in government.

RanDomino: And I realized... here's a woman who seems to think that womens' opinions are unimportant... but she has an opinion column. Figure it out! Either become a feminist, or go bake me a pie.

Meh. We have a state senator here in Kansas who's not a supporter of the 19th amendment.

A female state senator says if women's suffrage were being voted on today she would not support it, because the 19th Amendment was the start of a decades-long erosion of family values.

"I'm an old-fashioned woman, Senator. Kay O'Connor told The Kansas City Star. "Men should take care of women, and if men were taking care of women (today) 'we wouldn't have to vote."

But Hillary is leading in and will eventually win in the popular vote. I mean, she said so herself.

Sharpton is to Colored people

as

Hillary is to _________________

Hillary and her supporter's examples of sexism sometimes bother me. For one, any time a phrase is gender specific, they consider it sexist. Like when that SNL sketch had her dressed up as a witch, it was sexist, because witches are female. Being called a "biatch" is sexist, even though years of calling Bush a "dick" is okay. Also, any criticism of her looks is sexism, even though McCain has a melty face, and Obama is lanky and has big ears.

Granted, there is an undercurrent of sexism in some criticism of Hillary, but for the most part it's been overblown.

No it just means the Democrats are wholly composed of bluff and bullshiat and that all the folderol about equality ad nauseum is just that, fluff and bullshiat. Which means the whole deal a craven grab for power. People who follow these people are some of the sorriest within our gene pool. They are the alawize, the sardines among us. Running in a pack, constantly scared but feeling a false sense of security based on lowest common denominator equality.

Meanwhile the Greens/Islamists slipped in a pretty, smooth talking halfrican and we are about to have a bloodless coup. Oh wait.

Softens_hands_while_you_do_the_dishes
Meanwhile the Greens/Islamists slipped in a pretty, smooth talking halfrican and we are about to have a bloodless coup. Oh wait.

started bitter, but had a strong finish. hint of fruit makes it memorable, but not worth repeating. 8/10

Oh please, she was the one who made appeals to racism.

It's similar to her yapping about her experience. If experience is so fricken important, then she has no chance against McCain. Oh but that is when experience wouldn't matter.

Softens_hands_while_you_do_the_dishes: Meanwhile the Greens/Islamists slipped in a pretty, smooth talking halfrican and we are about to have a bloodless coup. Oh wait.

Take that! Our plan has worked perfectly.

I am sorry you cannot claim sexism is the reason why you are losing when 55-60% of the people voting the democratic primaries are women. Obama actually has much more room to complain, if your going to follow her logic, since only 20% are black. If anything, racism has kept her in the race more then sexism has hurt her. Sure there are some MSM guys who have made some sexist comments, but none of them have come from Obama. OTOH, there are plenty of comments that just barely rides the line of racism, that have either come straight out of her mouth, her husband's or associates of the campaign.

lexslamman: Metaluna Mutant

The Space Shuttle Columbia is actually a better visual metaphor for the last few days.

Even down to the hot Indian woman on board.

Ivor the Friendly Viking: Silly mainstream media, you should know that Hillary can move the goalposts as much as she pleases!

/Never trolled before (on purpose)
//Not a very good start.

The truth is never troll. OK, usually never.
Tacoby Bellisbury: Ivor the Friendly Viking: Silly mainstream media, you should know that Hillary can move the goalposts as much as she pleases!

/Never trolled before (on purpose)
//Not a very good start.

shiatty Troll, I'm reporting you, enjo y the ban

Hey - I missed if you ever responded to me last night. Do you know my grandfather from UMT - Missoula? Arnold Silverman; taught Geology for many years, retired about 7 years ago.

She's losing because she's acting like a deranged high school principal grasping at boogeymen. Kind of like Bush, now that I think of it.

Hillary's attitude of entitlement reminds me of a political cartoon from the 1980s. The cartoon has Fidel Castro saying to Daniel Ortega: "You lost a WHAT???"

brantgoose: Churchill2004: Non-Democrat /= Republican
Non-Republican /= Democrat

The logical implication of her (absurd) claim is that non-Democrats are less sexist than Democrats. That means Republicans plus everyone else who's not a Democrat. There are more of the latter than the former.

Aha! Logic. That's something you don't see every day.

You think that is logic? Perhapses I should show you some real logic.

The article quoted Clinton as saying that "the polls show that more people would be reluctant to vote for a woman [than] to vote for an African American."

It does not say polls of Democrats. It just says polls.

The author then attempts to apply that to the Democratic party saying:

This fact (if it be a fact) reveals a hitherto unknown, ugly truth about the Democratic Party. The alleged bastion of modern liberalism, toleration and diversity is full of (to use Mrs. Clinton's own phrase) "people who are nothing but misogynists." Large numbers of Democratic voters are sexists. Who knew?

But did Hillery actually say anything like that? Here is the entire exact quote from her.

But it does seem as though the press at least is not as bothered by the incredible vitriol that has been engendered by comments and reactions of people who are nothing but misogynists.


No mention of Democrats there. then only valid implication is that some PEOPLE are misogynists.

So the author is twisting things around to make general statements seem to apply to only Democrats.

He then comes to the very illogical conclusion that "Democrats are full of sexists".

Both you and Churchill2004 fail at logic.

ElQue: Hey - I missed if you ever responded to me last night. Do you know my grandfather from UMT - Missoula? Arnold Silverman; taught Geology for many years, retired about 7 years ago.

Heh. You really think there's a shred of reality to that? He's a farking TROLL, fer chrissakes.

subby:

When Hillary Clinton says that she's losing the Democratic nomination race because of sexism but would be more likely to win the White House, isn't she therefore also saying that Republicans are less sexist than Democrats?

No. It means what everyone has already known all along in that she trys to feed us a bullshiat sandwich stacked so high that you would need a machine that could drill to the core of the Sun in order to reveal any kind of truth in it.

And even then, it's a gamble.

means she's trying so hard to win the short race she forgot about the actual race that matters...

FFS, I just saw a Clinton supporter on TV saying that the women who make up 55% of the Democrat party membership have been betrayed in this process.

/how can someone be that deluded?

I learned that half of the Democrat Party is racist and the other half sexist.

/Progressive my ass!

Nemo's Brother:
I learned that half of the Democrat Party is racist and the other half sexist./Progressive my ass!

Those like Nemo that say "Democrat Party" are mindless namecalling trolls with no interest in ANY progress for the country. But at least they get merit points for emulating their deity El Rushbo.

Without reading the article or Clinton's actual statement, it does not necessarily follow that having a better chance in the general election means that Dems are more sexist than Reps. You would have to factor in other issues, like racism.

If Republicans are relatively more racist in comparison to Dems than they are more sexist than Dems, it could follow that Hillary could stand a better chance in the general election.

Lets say 20% of Dem voters are sexist and would never vote for a woman, and 10% of Dem voters would never vote for a black candidate.

If Non-Democratic voters corresponding numbers were 30% no-woman and 60% no-black, then Clinton could potentially have a better chance in the general election as she would have a shot, theoretically, at 70% of the non-dem vote vs. Obamo's only having a chance with 40% of the non-dem vote.

So, no, her statement does not require Dems to be more sexist than non-Dems to be true.