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(YouTube) Cool I'll see your Jeff Buckley singing "Hallelujah" and raise you his dad, Tim Buckley, doing "Song To The Siren" back in the early '70's   (youtube.com) divider line 26
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DrBenway [TotalFark] 2008-05-24 07:31:20 PM  
Tim had a pretty good following in Houston in the early 70's, so I got to be a fan of his as a result of the radio play he would get -- Sweet Surrender and Sally Go 'Round The Roses, in particular I remember. You can certainly hear where Jeff got his talent from.

 
sokeri [recently expired TotalFark] 2008-05-24 08:20:02 PM  
I don't get why Hallelujah is the song everyone loves Jeff for. it's amazing, but he was a fantastic song writer himself and has work that I think rivals this cover.

if you are a fan of either Buckley, I recommend reading Dream Brother. it's a biography of both, alternating chapters. heartbreaking.

 
DrBenway [TotalFark] 2008-05-24 08:33:59 PM  
sokeri:

if you are a fan of either Buckley, I recommend reading Dream Brother. it's a biography of both, alternating chapters. heartbreaking.


Thanks for the tip, that would be interesting -- that's a great approach to take, too, given the respective arcs of their lives. Reckon I'll have to track it down. While I appreciate Jeff's music, I really love the stuff that his dad did. I'm listening to Honey Man right now, which was taken from a 1973 live radio broadcast he did with his band.

 
kanesays 2008-05-24 10:13:35 PM  
Song To The Siren

I'll see you Buckley's version and raise you the version by Elizabeth Fraser.

 
WaltzingMathilda [TotalFark] 2008-05-24 10:40:20 PM  
sokeri: I don't get why Hallelujah is the song everyone loves Jeff for. it's amazing, but he was a fantastic song writer himself and has work that I think rivals this cover.

if you are a fan of either Buckley, I recommend reading Dream Brother. it's a biography of both, alternating chapters. heartbreaking.


My favorite of his is yet a different cover ... The Smiths' "I Know It's Over"

Wowee, he did a number on that one.

 
DrBenway [TotalFark] 2008-05-24 10:42:49 PM  
kanesays: I'll see you Buckley's version and raise you the version by Elizabeth Fraser.


Completely forgot about that, and I even have a copy of it somewhere! Really beautiful, thanks for reminding me.

 
destitute college kid 2008-05-24 10:45:54 PM  
That This Mortal Coil version still sends me back into some kind of hypnotic dream trance. Thanks, kanesays.

 
kanesays 2008-05-24 11:36:49 PM  
destitute college kid: That This Mortal Coil version still sends me back into some kind of hypnotic dream trance. Thanks, kanesays.

Ride - 'Today'
This song does that to me.

 
DrBenway [TotalFark] 2008-05-24 11:51:13 PM  
Here's another live clip of Tim Buckley playing Dolphins. Bonus: check out the awesome Fender 12-string (Jazzmaster body) he's playing!

 
DrBenway [TotalFark] 2008-05-25 12:40:52 AM  
sokeri:

if you are a fan of either Buckley, I recommend reading Dream Brother. it's a biography of both, alternating chapters. heartbreaking.


By the way, there's also a DVD compilation of live stuff that came out last year: Tim Buckley: My Fleeting House (in my Netflix queue, of course).

In digging around a bit further, I found one more great live cut of him rocking out a bit more, this time doing Honey Man.

 
Teleken 2008-05-25 12:56:09 AM  
kanesays: destitute college kid: That This Mortal Coil version still sends me back into some kind of hypnotic dream trance. Thanks, kanesays.

Ride - 'Today'
This song does that to me.


Right there with you - I love shoegazer. Catherine Wheel "Ferment" was in the truck all week this week for my office commute.

/Putting pennies aside to get a Jazzmaster as I type this - spy, surf, new wave, shoegazer, same instrument.

//I have too many guitars

 
DrBenway [TotalFark] 2008-05-25 01:20:03 AM  
Teleken:

/Putting pennies aside to get a Jazzmaster as I type this - spy, surf, new wave, shoegazer, same instrument.

//I have too many guitars



Well, if you don't have a Jazzmaster, you're clearly one short then! Hell, sell two, buy the Jazzmaster, and you'll still come out ahead.

 
WaltzingMathilda [TotalFark] 2008-05-25 01:28:26 AM  
DrBenway: Teleken:

/Putting pennies aside to get a Jazzmaster as I type this - spy, surf, new wave, shoegazer, same instrument.

//I have too many guitars


Well, if you don't have a Jazzmaster, you're clearly one short then! Hell, sell two, buy the Jazzmaster, and you'll still come out ahead.


What's the story with the CDs issued with stuff you played on in 78-81?

 
Teleken 2008-05-25 01:53:37 AM  
DrBenway: Teleken:

/Putting pennies aside to get a Jazzmaster as I type this - spy, surf, new wave, shoegazer, same instrument.

//I have too many guitars


Well, if you don't have a Jazzmaster, you're clearly one short then! Hell, sell two, buy the Jazzmaster, and you'll still come out ahead.


Hehehe - I'm all about the "studio staple" instruments right now, as I'm not gigging. So that's the standard Strat+Tele+Les Paul+Martin deal. And a Jazz Bass. And a fast (soon to be faster) Mac. And Logic Studio.

That said, I do want one badly - I need my gear lust and my wallet to come to terms with each other. :)

 
DrBenway [TotalFark] 2008-05-25 01:57:37 AM  
WaltzingMathilda: What's the story with the CDs issued with stuff you played on in 78-81?

Those were the first couple of bands I was in back in Houston, The Plastic Idols and Culturcide. The Plastic Idols CD is a compilation of released material, some demos, and some live recordings -- early punky band; the Culturcide CD is a reissue of the first album, Year One -- that was more of an industrial band, particularly in the early days. Shoot me an email if you want to know more about either of them.

 
WaltzingMathilda [TotalFark] 2008-05-25 02:01:21 AM  
DrBenway: WaltzingMathilda: What's the story with the CDs issued with stuff you played on in 78-81?

Those were the first couple of bands I was in back in Houston, The Plastic Idols and Culturcide. The Plastic Idols CD is a compilation of released material, some demos, and some live recordings -- early punky band; the Culturcide CD is a reissue of the first album, Year One -- that was more of an industrial band, particularly in the early days. Shoot me an email if you want to know more about either of them.


Bongoloids is a legit email? B/c for sure I'll send you one to get the info. We traded posts in a Bowie and Dylan thread, so I'd be interested to hear the stuff you've been involved in.

 
DrBenway [TotalFark] 2008-05-25 02:28:54 AM  
Teleken:

Hehehe - I'm all about the "studio staple" instruments right now, as I'm not gigging. So that's the standard Strat+Tele+Les Paul+Martin deal. And a Jazz Bass. And a fast (soon to be faster) Mac. And Logic Studio.

That said, I do want one badly - I need my gear lust and my wallet to come to terms with each other. :)


Yeah, I hear you. I've got too much stuff, too. Similar guitar arrangement, though at the same time different: Jazzmaster, Epiphone ES-295 (which I haven't really taken to and need to sell), a Guild, an old Gibson EB-3 bass, and a Harmony lap steel. For my purposes, at least, the Jazzmaster is a pretty versatile guitar, I'll say that. And then there's the keyboards... just scored a Farfisa Compact Combo that I've got to get up and running. I'm in recording limbo -- Apple and Digidesign still haven't ironed out compatibility issues with the new OS, and I'm getting the impression that when they do, it still isn't going to work with Macs running on the older processors. So it's looking like I may have to spring for a laptop just for music projects, which I wasn't counting on.


WaltzingMathilda
: Yep, that's a good addy. Fire away.

 
Teleken 2008-05-25 03:53:28 AM  
DrBenway:

Yeah, I hear you. I've got too much stuff, too. Similar guitar arrangement, though at the same time different: Jazzmaster, Epiphone ES-295 (which I haven't really taken to and need to sell), a Guild, an old Gibson EB-3 bass, and a Harmony lap steel.


I forgot my lap steel (Industrial Indy Rail) - I knew there was something...

For my purposes, at least, the Jazzmaster is a pretty versatile guitar, I'll say that. And then there's the keyboards... just scored a Farfisa Compact Combo that I've got to get up and running.


NICE! I was a keyboard player for 14 years before I picked up guitar - listened to Manzarek or Emerson prior to about 1981 when synths blew up.

If you ever score an old ARP, I used to work with a guy that's regarded as one of the top techs in the country. Also a dangerously good guitarist and a good Stick player as well.


I'm in recording limbo -- Apple and Digidesign still haven't ironed out compatibility issues with the new OS, and I'm getting the impression that when they do, it still isn't going to work with Macs running on the older processors.

Sorry to hear. I hadn't run in to any problems with Logic Studio on my music computer (iMac 2.2GHZ.)


So it's looking like I may have to spring for a laptop just for music projects, which I wasn't counting on.

I'm working on moving some things in favor of a 17" MacBook Pro myself.

 
DrBenway [TotalFark] 2008-05-25 10:25:25 AM  
Teleken:

If you ever score an old ARP, I used to work with a guy that's regarded as one of the top techs in the country. Also a dangerously good guitarist and a good Stick player as well.


I've had an ARP Axxe for years -- even with cleaning, the sliders are pretty cranky at this point. I mainly use its external input to run other stuff through it for treatments (it's great for that!). Last year I tracked down an old Yamaha CS-30 in remarkably good condition. That was their biggest monophonic analog synth, and I'm still learning the ropes. For a relatively small city, there are a number of analog synth folks here, as this was Bob Moog's home base for a long time. Freaked me out a little when I first moved to town -- was in the grocery store with a friend who pointed him out to me. Had to restrain the urge to squeal like a little school girl and managed to hold myself at a respectful distance...

Do you have to isolate your Mac when recording with mics? They're a bit noisy, and a friend in Austin with the same model as mine mentioned that he had to do that, as he was recording a lot of acoustic stuff in his home.

 
GibbyTheMole 2008-05-25 10:25:32 AM  
DrBenway:

Wow. That clip of "Dolphins" is magnificent.

I have the few recordings that exist of Jeff. I like him, but my wife isn't big on him. His vocal calisthenics annoy her. I think Jeff's a guy you either really like, or you really don't.

I think Tim's more toned-down style might be an easier listen for her. I gotta go pick up some of his albums. The guy was an awesome talent. Tim's song "Dream Letter" is a heartbreaker, by the way.

 
Teleken 2008-05-25 11:26:26 AM  
DrBenway:

Do you have to isolate your Mac when recording with mics? They're a bit noisy, and a friend in Austin with the same model as mine mentioned that he had to do that, as he was recording a lot of acoustic stuff in his home.


With a MacBook Pro, it would be an occasional thing. The easiest way to get around it with Logic is to freeze any tracks you'll have playing back as you track your new ones with the mike. I also cheat and use unidirectional condensers a lot - you have to keep yourself or the instrument right on axis, but you don't pick up anything from the sides.

 
DrBenway [TotalFark] 2008-05-25 01:32:27 PM  
GibbyTheMole:

Wow. That clip of "Dolphins" is magnificent.

I have the few recordings that exist of Jeff. I like him, but my wife isn't big on him. His vocal calisthenics annoy her. I think Jeff's a guy you either really like, or you really don't.

I think Tim's more toned-down style might be an easier listen for her. I gotta go pick up some of his albums. The guy was an awesome talent. Tim's song "Dream Letter" is a heartbreaker, by the way.



Did you watch the clip I posted right after that for Honey Man? That kicked ass -- great band, and the audio is particularly good. Both of those songs are on that Honey Man CD I mentioned (live versions from a radio broadcast, also has good versions of Sally Go Round The Roses, Sweet Surrender and Pleasant Street). Greetings From L.A. is the other favorite of mine.

I wouldn't say he necessarily "tones down" compared to Jeff, I just think Jeff was a little more precious and didn't have quite as much of an edge as his father. There are audio-only clips of Sweet Surrender on YouTube and elsewhere -- don't know if you've ever heard that before or not, but it's a beauty.

 
GibbyTheMole 2008-05-26 09:28:34 AM  
DrBenway:

Haven't watched "Honey Man" yet, but I'll check it out. I watched several other clips of his work, though. All good stuff.

I've noticed in many of you other posts, it looks like you & I have pretty much parallel tastes in music. So I tend to check out whatever stuff you recommend.

 
Shadow Blasko 2008-05-26 02:22:27 PM  
My folder of goodness...

Leonard Cohens Hallelujah-Allison Crowe-Hallelujah.mp3
Leonard Cohens Hallelujah-Ari Hest-Hallelujah.mp3
Leonard Cohens Hallelujah-Arooj Aftab-Hallelujah.mp3
Leonard Cohens Hallelujah-Bob Dylan-Hallelujah.mp3
Leonard Cohens Hallelujah-Bono-Hallelujah.mp3
Leonard Cohens Hallelujah-Chris Botti-Hallelujah.mp3
Leonard Cohens Hallelujah-Clare Bowditch-Hallelujah.mp3
Leonard Cohens Hallelujah-Damien Rice-Cannonball Hallelujah.mp3
Leonard Cohens Hallelujah-Damien Rice-Hallelujah.mp3
Leonard Cohens Hallelujah-Dresden Dolls-Hallelujah.mp3
Leonard Cohens Hallelujah-Elisa-Hallelujah.mp3
Leonard Cohens Hallelujah-Eric Beverly-Hallelujah.MP3
Leonard Cohens Hallelujah-Erik Flaa-Hallelujah.mp3
Leonard Cohens Hallelujah-Euan Morton and Denise Summers-Hallelujah.mp3
Leonard Cohens Hallelujah-Gavin DeGraw-Hallelujah.mp3
Leonard Cohens Hallelujah-Imogen Heap-Hallelujah.mp3
Leonard Cohens Hallelujah-Jack Lukeman-Hallelujah.mp3
Leonard Cohens Hallelujah-Jeff Buckley-Hallelujah.mp3
Leonard Cohens Hallelujah-Jennifer Terran-Halleluja.mp3
Leonard Cohens Hallelujah-John Cale-Hallelujah.mp3
Leonard Cohens Hallelujah-John Jerome-Hallelujah.mp3
Leonard Cohens Hallelujah-K.D. Lang-Hallelujah.mp3
Leonard Cohens Hallelujah-Kate Noson-Hallelujah.mp3
Leonard Cohens Hallelujah-Kathryn Williams-Hallelujah.mp3
Leonard Cohens Hallelujah-K's Choice-Hallelujah.mp3
Leonard Cohens Hallelujah-Late Tuesday-Hallelujah.mp3
Leonard Cohens Hallelujah-Leonard Cohen-Hallelujah.mp3
Leonard Cohens Hallelujah-Lucky Jim-Hallelujah.mp3
Leonard Cohens Hallelujah-Macbrolan-Hallelujah.mp3
Leonard Cohens Hallelujah-Rufus Wainright-Hallelujah.mp3
Leonard Cohens Hallelujah-Sheryl Crow-Hallelujah.mp3
Leonard Cohens Hallelujah-Street To Nowhere-Hallelujah.mp3
Leonard Cohens Hallelujah-The Junebugs-Hallelujah.mp3
Leonard Cohens Hallelujah-Tony Lucca-Hallelujah.mp3

 
fredzilla 2008-05-26 03:28:34 PM  
Teleken - I am a keyboard player and lived in South Side Chicago for most of my life.

I checked your profile. Cuba is a place that an excellent musician I know of came from. You've got me wondering about a few things...

 
Teleken 2008-05-29 01:48:20 AM  
fredzilla: Teleken - I am a keyboard player and lived in South Side Chicago for most of my life.

I checked your profile. Cuba is a place that an excellent musician I know of came from. You've got me wondering about a few things...


Sorry to disappoint, but most likely not me. I was born on the South Side, but I'm of German-American descent. I was in Cuba with the USAF in 1995.

 
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