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(YouTube) Hero In 1990 Oprah had Jello Biafra, Tipper Gore, Rabbi Abraham Cooper, Juan Williams, Ice-T and Nelson George to discuss the PMRC issue. Listen to Jello completely own Tipper on national TV   (youtube.com) divider line 72
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theworryrock [TotalFark] 2008-05-23 03:27:58 PM  
trust your jello.

 
Cyberluddite [TotalFark] 2008-05-23 03:51:26 PM  
Better than that is the famous Frank Zappa appearance on "Crossfire" in 1986. Also includes Robert Novak being even more of a douchebag than usual, and some jerkoff from the Washington Post who is possibly even more of douche than Novak, if such a thing can be imagined.

 
kronicfeld [TotalFark] 2008-05-23 04:13:50 PM  
Cyberluddite: Better than that is the famous Frank Zappa appearance on "Crossfire" in 1986. Also includes Robert Novak being even more of a douchebag than usual, and some jerkoff from the Washington Post who is possibly even more of douche than Novak, if such a thing can be imagined.

That is one of the best things I ever saw in my life.

 
Solid State Vittles 2008-05-23 04:19:29 PM  
kronicfeld: Cyberluddite: Better than that is the famous Frank Zappa appearance on "Crossfire" in 1986. Also includes Robert Novak being even more of a douchebag than usual, and some jerkoff from the Washington Post who is possibly even more of douche than Novak, if such a thing can be imagined.

That is one of the best things I ever saw in my life.


Short snippet (new window)

Whole enchilada (new window)

 
mr_zero [TotalFark] 2008-05-23 04:19:51 PM  
Fantastic find! Rock on Jello.

 
Solid State Vittles 2008-05-23 04:20:04 PM  
Cyberluddite: Better than that is the famous Frank Zappa appearance on "Crossfire" in 1986.

Sorry, didn't see that you had linked it.

 
Howie Spankowitz [TotalFark] 2008-05-23 04:45:57 PM  
Cyberluddite: Better than that is the famous Frank Zappa appearance on "Crossfire" in 1986. Also includes Robert Novak being even more of a douchebag than usual, and some jerkoff from the Washington Post who is possibly even more of douche than Novak, if such a thing can be imagined.

Thanks for posting that, man. That was seriously awesome and I had never seen it before. I love how Zappa keeps his cool and behaves completely counter to the stereotyped "controversial rock star" I'm sure they were hoping he would be. He even wore a suit.

 
Dr.Fey [TotalFark] 2008-05-23 06:21:04 PM  
Howie Spankowitz: Cyberluddite: Thanks for posting that, man.

I'm sure I'm in the wrong, and I'm sure I'm going to be told as much, but I just got 9:24 into the video and realized I was tremendously bored.

I generally agree with Zappa's position. The fact that I thought he was right did not make the video more interesting for me.

(Maybe this is why I am generally apathetic about politics. "Noooo! You have to care! If you don't care, you're part of the problem and aiding the Enemies / aiding the Man! Let me tell you why I'm right and you must advocate!")

Solid State Vittles: That is one of the best things I ever saw in my life.

I recommend The Lives of Others, Hitch's Rebecca, and the "Fawlty Towers" series.

I recommend Upper Yosemite falls in spring, Claire Forlani excited about something, Paris at night.

/got plenty of recommendations.
//yeah, yeah, you were using hyperbole - so am I.

 
Solid State Vittles 2008-05-23 09:20:17 PM  
Dr.Fey: I recommend Upper Yosemite falls in spring,

Hey, I did that this spring already! March 2008. Yup.

/you quoted the wrong dude, dude
//hint: starts with a kronic

 
MrWhipee 2008-05-23 09:27:30 PM  
I was actually there at this taping. My girlfriend at the time got tickets for Oprah, and I was not happy at all to be going. We didn't find out the topicoontil we got there. Ice-T was very cool and down to earth when we met him after the show.

 
martijannetti 2008-05-23 09:33:43 PM  
Watching that Zappa clip made me nostalgic for the Cold War.

 
Anagrammer 2008-05-23 09:34:48 PM  
Whatever happened to Oprah?

 
Lionel Mandrake [TotalFark] 2008-05-23 09:36:20 PM  
Shoulda had Dave Mustaine on, too.


F is for fighting, R is for red,
Ancestors' blood in battles they've shed.
E, we elect them, E, we eject them,
In the land of the free and the home of the brave.
D, for your dying, O, your overture,
M is for money and you know what that cures.
This spells out freedom, it means nothing to me,
As long as there's a P.M.R.C.

 
StormDawg 2008-05-23 09:43:38 PM  
Dr.Fey: Claire Forlani excited about something

What's Claire up to these days? One of the sexiest women I've seen on film.

MrWhipee: We didn't find out the topicoontil we got there.

Sometimes those filterpwns sneak up on you, don't they?

 
philo13181 2008-05-23 09:44:31 PM  
lets not forget this...

zappa's testimony in at the PMRC senate hearing

Part 1 of 4 (new window)

"I have been a fan of your music, believe it or not" - Al Gore

RIP FZ

 
not-a-cute-name 2008-05-23 09:53:02 PM  
i was in college when that show first aired - it first aired in 1987...dang - now i feel old. I particularly loved the bit when Tipper "swore" at Jello.

 
DarnoKonrad 2008-05-23 09:54:21 PM  
The PMRC can go to hell. It's another reason I voted for Nadar.

Sorry, Gore, but don't let your unelected spouses make noise. It pisses the electorate off for decades.

 
Heroic Poser 2008-05-23 09:54:37 PM  
Would have been a great snippet if not for the idiot signing off in the typical "aren't I edgy" youTube way.

 
GoodasGold 2008-05-23 09:56:58 PM  
Has Jello (Boucher) ever critized Israel? Any Jews individually?

Or just goys and goy institutions? He has sure spent a career cricizing. Criticize, criticize, criticize. "Shtupid goys, you are doing everything wrong! You are without morals."

Yes, I know my comments are in bad taste. I say TERRIBLE THINGS all the time and I am cognizant of that. I seriously feel bad about it but it is so clear to me that Jello just is like generations of Jews. A master criticizer of gentile society. From Lenny Bruce through Borat.

 
Marla Singer's Laundry [TotalFark] 2008-05-23 10:01:04 PM  
Jello owned her big-time.


Also, interesting to see the F bomb in a headline.

 
loser_death_spiral 2008-05-23 10:01:14 PM  
Dr.Fey: I recommend Upper Yosemite falls in spring, Claire Forlani excited about something, Paris at night.

I saw "One Night in Paris". Does that count?

/it sucked

 
Kuta 2008-05-23 10:02:40 PM  

 
Marla Singer's Laundry [TotalFark] 2008-05-23 10:03:06 PM  
Cyberluddite: Better than that is the famous Frank Zappa appearance on "Crossfire" in 1986. Also includes Robert Novak being even more of a douchebag than usual, and some jerkoff from the Washington Post who is possibly even more of douche than Novak, if such a thing can be imagined.

I love how those right-wing dips---ts got schooled.

Also, note Zappa's prediction of a theocratic nation, and their condescending dismissal of it.

 
CaesarSneezy 2008-05-23 10:03:38 PM  
Tipper's insistence that she's a "liberal Democrat" just illustrates how meaningless terms like that are. BTW, can anyone find a link to Jello's mayoral run materials? I know his platform included making businessmen dress in clown suits within the city limits, but I've never seen any of his pamphlets or signs.

 
DeadZone 2008-05-23 10:08:13 PM  
There's no hate like...

 
balthan [TotalFark] 2008-05-23 10:21:07 PM  
Cyberluddite: Better than that is the famous Frank Zappa appearance on "Crossfire" in 1986. Also includes Robert Novak being even more of a douchebag than usual, and some jerkoff from the Washington Post who is possibly even more of douche than Novak, if such a thing can be imagined.

"The biggest threat to America today is not communism, it's moving America toward a fascist theocracy"

Damn, he nailed it in 1986.

 
Vacaboi 2008-05-23 10:22:50 PM  
GoodasGold: Has Jello (Boucher) ever critized Israel? Any Jews individually?

Or just goys and goy institutions? He has sure spent a career cricizing. Criticize, criticize, criticize. "Shtupid goys, you are doing everything wrong! You are without morals."

Yes, I know my comments are in bad taste. I say TERRIBLE THINGS all the time and I am cognizant of that. I seriously feel bad about it but it is so clear to me that Jello just is like generations of Jews. A master criticizer of gentile society. From Lenny Bruce through Borat.


What on earth are you saying? Are you suggesting the Jello Biafra is Jewish? Or that he should criticize Jews in order to be balanced and fair? I'm not so much offended as mystified as to why you think you're making a point.

 
moothemagiccow 2008-05-23 10:25:56 PM  
The fark? Is this nostalgia politics?

 
safeasmilk 2008-05-23 10:31:17 PM  
Pretty rare that I get to say this, but great use of the HERO Tag!

 
Marla Singer's Laundry [TotalFark] 2008-05-23 10:35:29 PM  
moothemagiccow: The fark? Is this nostalgia politics?

No, it's the unsealing of prophesy. Go watch the Zappa and be amazed.

I don't care if he IS dead, I'd still f--- him

 
Hobodeluxe [TotalFark] 2008-05-23 10:35:58 PM  

Jello was pissed at Michael Savage using his song the other day to mock the news of Ted Kennedy's tumor. He let him (and a lot of others)have it both barrels.

I haven't read the details yet, but I'm aware of what Michael Savage did. Obviously he took my song way the hell out of context and did it deliberately. But the bigger issue is Savage himself and how the hell he gets away with stuff like saying this, and saying that people with AIDS should be put in concentration camps. And then when people protest at the station, he calls on his own listeners to come down and beat them up.

It scares the shiat out of me that the most popular radio talk-show hosts are all foaming-at-the-mouth, ultra-bigoted blabbermongers whom only North Korea or the Nazis could love.

But like it or not, Savage is the third-most popular radio-talk show host in this country behind Rush Limbaugh and Sean Hannity. Nobody from the other side is represented or promoted well enough by the big right-wing-owned radio networks to compete. That's one of the ways they mindfark the country into being so dumb they vote for people like George Bush, Mitt Romney and Arnold Schwarzenegger.

The real issue here is why aren't the big candidates calling for media reform? Once upon a time there was a law on the books called the Fairness Doctrine, and it said that if somebody like Savage or Limbaugh or that skull woman Ann Coulter said something completely farked up and dishonest on the air, somebody else was allowed to come on the air and reply to them without being told to shut up every 15 seconds by a power clown like Bill O'Reilly. That law was on the books for 50 years but was allowed to expire in the late '80s when a Democratic-controlled congress failed to override President Reagan's veto of the law.

The damage was further compounded when your friend and mine Bill Clinton rammed through the Telecommunications Act of 1996, further deregulating how many radio stations and media outlets one corporation can own and what they can do with them and they greenlighted their long-held agenda to throw public interest out the window. And the volume and impact of the Rush Limbaughs and Michael Savages multiplied exponentially with nobody on the other side being allowed to reply. In large areas of rural and small town America, this is the only radio anyone is exposed to. That's the problem. We need to bring back the Fairness Doctrine. John Kerry had a golden opportunity to fire back at the Swift Boat liars and use that as a platform to rally the public to demand media reform. But true to form, he was too chickenshiat to do it.

 
ladyway905 2008-05-23 10:37:39 PM  
What's sad is I've already seen that clip of the Zappa thing on Crossfire, thanks to my best friend. Still one of the best things I have ever seen.

 
Tony Stark 2008-05-23 10:38:47 PM  
GoodasGold: Has Jello (Boucher) ever critized Israel? Any Jews individually?

Or just goys and goy institutions? He has sure spent a career cricizing. Criticize, criticize, criticize. "Shtupid goys, you are doing everything wrong! You are without morals."

Yes, I know my comments are in bad taste. I say TERRIBLE THINGS all the time and I am cognizant of that. I seriously feel bad about it but it is so clear to me that Jello just is like generations of Jews. A master criticizer of gentile society. From Lenny Bruce through Borat.


TEH JOOS!!! THEY CONTROL SATIRE AND SOCIAL COMMENTARY!

 
Marla Singer's Laundry [TotalFark] 2008-05-23 10:38:58 PM  
ladyway905: What's sad is I've already seen that clip of the Zappa thing on Crossfire, thanks to my best friend. Still one of the best things I have ever seen.

The poise that man had turns my panties into a lake.

 
I Like Bread 2008-05-23 10:53:41 PM  
Remember what we did to Jello Biafra?

 
bromidestain 2008-05-23 10:53:47 PM  
That was a pretty good video. I wish there was a whole video so I can see that portion in context.

Also, I was miffed that the douche that posted the video then signed off the video with a lame ass picture and a song by Underoath, a horrible horrible "screamo" Christian band. Christian band with the Dead Kennedys does not compute.

 
SU 2008-05-23 10:55:24 PM  

Ah, Tipper come on, ain't you been getting it on?
Ask Ozzie, Zappa or me.
We'll show you what it's like to be free.

The irony it seems it seems to me
its un-American policy.
Yeah, we've come so far but still only to
find people like you with ignorant minds.


Go Ramones! It is amusing that their song taking aim at the PMRC is titled Censorshiat yet it doesn't contain a single curse.

 
don't understand 2008-05-23 10:56:26 PM  
www.synthstuff.com
"STFU!"

 
andrewagill 2008-05-23 10:56:32 PM  
Cyberluddite: Robert Novak being even more of a douchebag than usual

Is that even possible?

 
swahnhennessy 2008-05-23 11:00:13 PM  
Man, those were ugly times. Good on Jello to open up on Tipper as he did. As for the Crossfire piece, Zappa had more patience for fools than I do. If I were Frank I would have thrown respectful discourse to the wolves and punched that Post moron once he called me "pal". Some amazingly stupid people then. As now.

 
Hoopy Frood 2008-05-23 11:11:27 PM  
Jello talks about this in length on the "Beyond the Valley of the Gift Police" album.

 
xbattlewax 2008-05-23 11:11:52 PM  
With Hillary spouting off at the mouth I guess now would be a good time to remember the name of Jello Biafra's band

Dead Kennedy's

It makes me giggle

 
rahpower 2008-05-23 11:12:31 PM  
That Crossfire video was excellent. Zappa was much more in control than I would have been in that situation. I imagine that I would have flown off the handle surrounded by those d-bags. Very prescient with the "fascist theocracy" statement.

 
andrewagill 2008-05-23 11:27:50 PM  
No, no. Novak was just at standard douchebaggery.

Lofton was a gigantic phallus, though. Not surprising he's at the Moonie Times.

I think I've fallen in love with Zappa over the fascist theocracy comments.

``The Hope is in registering to vote?'

FARK YOU JOHN LOFTON.

 
thesuparowl 2008-05-23 11:32:40 PM  
I Like Bread: Remember what we did to Jello Biafra?

and now that little train's sayin' cashflowcashflowcashflowcashflow

Do I look like I'm crying?

 
Purity Of Essence 2008-05-23 11:33:43 PM  
There's always room for Jello.

 
Im in ur Fark 2008-05-24 12:20:48 AM  
Cyberluddite: Better than that is the famous Frank Zappa appearance on "Crossfire" in 1986. Also includes Robert Novak being even more of a douchebag than usual, and some jerkoff from the Washington Post who is possibly even more of douche than Novak, if such a thing can be imagined.

Wow. John Lofton... was an asshole. I'm impressed, actually. And here since the birth of Fox News I thought I'd seen it all.

 
vrax 2008-05-24 12:37:49 AM  
I love in that Zappa video when the guy says that incest became a problem in the US in the last 20 years. ROFL! Zappa's face was perfect.

 
Somacandra [TotalFark] 2008-05-24 12:51:46 AM  
Not surprised. I watched Jello Biafra seriously pwninate Pat Buchanan live on Crossfire back in the day over the same issue.

Favorite quote: "Saw a fellow speaking in Berkeley over the weekend named Noam Chomsky....who's DAMN lucky he's white or he would have been dead a long time ago."

upload.wikimedia.org

Best Spoken Word Album Ever.

 
Third_Uncle_Eno 2008-05-24 02:00:43 AM  
Cyberluddite
[Zappa on Crossfire 1986 link]

Wow. just....wow.... [shakes head in disbelief]. That guy w/ the glasses beside Zappa was a real douchebag. He deserved a cockpunch.
or two. or three.

 
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