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(Rolling Stone) Followup You can put wings on a pig, but you can't make it an eagle: The story of Pink Floyd's pig   (rollingstone.com) divider line 39
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Walker [TotalFark] 2008-05-23 01:47:59 PM  
Is this another story about Rosie O'Donnell?

/pass

 
mofomisfit 2008-05-23 03:02:59 PM  
Peter Frampton bought it at the yard sale.

 
Born in a Blue State 2008-05-23 03:09:51 PM  
I always wanted to know what the pig ment. They make a reference to it in the movie "Children of Men" (I strongly recomend it). Well now I know.


/...and knowing is half the battle
//G.I. JOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOEEEEEEEEEEEEE

 
TSE 2008-05-23 03:12:51 PM  
Born in a Blue State: I always wanted to know what the pig ment. They make a reference to it in the movie "Children of Men" (I strongly recomend it). Well now I know.

/...and knowing is half the battle
//G.I. JOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOEEEEEEEEEEEEE


um. Listen to the record, maybe?

 
DeepDownHounds 2008-05-23 03:14:29 PM  
From the hog's humble beginnings on the cover of Floyd's 1977 album Animals to its recent unpiloted escape from Coachella


They let it go in Dallas two weeks ago, too. We weren't sure if they meant to, but it sure was cool. They kept spotlights on it until it floated out of sight.

 
sonnyboy11 2008-05-23 03:20:09 PM  
Coachella was farking amazing this time around and Waters show was the highlight. He brought a plane in fer crying out loud!

 
Gravyguts 2008-05-23 03:30:51 PM  
cool good find

 
Fark Lord of the Sith 2008-05-23 03:41:16 PM  
LEAVE DON HENLEY ALONE!!!!111tearsofrage111

 
Creeping Malaise 2008-05-23 04:12:19 PM  
My first green light. I am so proud!

 
pudding7 [TotalFark] 2008-05-23 04:39:04 PM  
I saw Roger Waters in Vegas a few months ago. Holy crap, what an awesome show. Only about 1% less awesome than the Floyd tour in '94(?). 7th row seats in Sun Devil stadium. Wow.

 
miltonbabbitt 2008-05-23 04:53:14 PM  
"haha! - charade you are!"

img84.imageshack.us

 
Dr.Salvador 2008-05-23 04:56:18 PM  
mofomisfit: Peter Frampton bought it at the yard sale.

Nice one.
/Animals in an underrated album, along with Wish You Were Here

 
TSE 2008-05-23 05:11:26 PM  
Dr.Salvador: mofomisfit: Peter Frampton bought it at the yard sale.

Nice one.
/Animals in an underrated album, along with Wish You Were Here



My two favs

 
miltonbabbitt 2008-05-23 05:42:34 PM  
Alright then....since this is looking like a "my favorite Floyd" thread, let me say:

www.waste.org

 
DeepDownHounds 2008-05-23 05:56:29 PM  
pudding7 I saw Roger Waters in Vegas a few months ago. Holy crap, what an awesome show. Only about 1% less awesome than the Floyd tour in '94(?).


You have got to be joking. I have seen 2 "Pink Floyd" shows, one in '88 and the other sometime in 94 as well. Those shows sucked pretty bad, and I felt cheated that I paid my hard earned money to see David Gilmour languidly rasp his way through one after another butchered McFloyd song. I was always pretty bummed afterwards, but at least I could say I was there. Then, 8 years ago Roger Waters came to Dallas and set the record straight. He puts on a true Pink Floyd show. fark the big props, I wanna bliss out on the music! I want to hear all of the milky guitar solos we have all come to love, not these indiscernable, lazy Gilmour riffs. Plus, he sings like Bob Dylan. It's awful.

Go put in "delicate Sound Of Thunder" or "Pulse"....yeah, then listen to Water's live show 'In The Flesh". Those three old farts can't hold a candle to the group Waters put together.

I stand behind that.

 
TSE 2008-05-23 06:42:19 PM  
DeepDownHounds: I want to hear all of the milky guitar solos we have all come to love, not these indiscernable, lazy Gilmour riffs. Plus, he sings like Bob Dylan. It's awful.

And just who do you think wrote those "milky" guitar solos? It sure as hell wasn't Roger Waters. He has to hire guys to come in and play like David Gilmour.

One without the other is not much to write home about, in my book.

 
miltonbabbitt 2008-05-23 06:43:44 PM  
DeepDownHounds:

I won't doubt your experiences, but mine have been different. I saw Waters do "Dark Side of the Moon" live last year and it was fantastic, but I couldn't help but feel that the guitarist he had were bored and didn't enjoy playing someone else's riffs for two hours. I really missed David during that show and couldn't shake it.

Soon afterwards, I saw the new Gilmour DVD "Remember That Night Live At The Royal Albert Hall" in a movie theater and was blown away. He's not the same as he was but none of us is getting any younger. It was an awesome show with great players who were visibly enjoying themselves.

Gilmour sounds like Dylan? Does not compute.

"The vocals would never take very long. Dave's a great singer, it would never be more than a couple of hours, except that sometimes he might give it up and come back another day." - from the Dark Side of the Moon sessions

 
Al Gorithm 2008-05-23 06:47:35 PM  
I'll be damned. They really did set the pig on fire. All these years I just thought it was the 'shrooms.

/Pink Floyd - Dark Side of the Moon - Milwaukee WI - 6/22/75
//Pink Floyd - Animals - Chicago IL - 6/19/77
///Pink Floyd - Division Bell - Madison WI - 7/3/94
////R. Waters - In The Flesh - Tinley Park IL - 7/8/00
//D. Gilmour - On An Island - Rosemont IL - 4/13/06
//my lawn is general admission

 
Al Gorithm 2008-05-23 06:57:53 PM  
And just for grins, here are the ticket prices for those 5 shows:

$7.50
$10.00
$32.50
$50.00
$95.00

 
theewhiterhino 2008-05-23 06:58:45 PM  
TSE: DeepDownHounds: I want to hear all of the milky guitar solos we have all come to love, not these indiscernable, lazy Gilmour riffs. Plus, he sings like Bob Dylan. It's awful.

And just who do you think wrote those "milky" guitar solos? It sure as hell wasn't Roger Waters. He has to hire guys to come in and play like David Gilmour.

One without the other is not much to write home about, in my book.


One of those hired guns is Rick DiFonzo, a local Philly legend. His band The A's were a minor national success in the early '80's. Rick played The Wall at the Berlin Wall, and has been on a few other tours with Roger. Damn good player.

 
TSE 2008-05-23 07:17:56 PM  
theewhiterhino: One of those hired guns is Rick DiFonzo, a local Philly legend. His band The A's were a minor national success in the early '80's. Rick played The Wall at the Berlin Wall, and has been on a few other tours with Roger. Damn good player.

Another one was Doyle Bramhall II, a local Austin guitarslinger of great repute. He isn't David Gilmour though, and said such during interviews at the time... he was happy to be playing those parts that we all know and love.

 
carmody 2008-05-23 07:52:45 PM  
Syd Barrett is getting a kick out of these replies from beyond the grave.

 
FeedTheCollapse 2008-05-23 08:08:10 PM  
carmody: Syd Barrett is getting a kick out of these replies from beyond the grave.

because they wrote better music without him?

/oh snap.

 
mofomisfit 2008-05-23 08:28:30 PM  
miltonbabbitt

I'm with you on Meddle, but my absolute favorite Floyd track is "Echoes" from the Pompeii/Vesuvius thing.

/it's split up on the DVD but I had an old bootleg with the full track together, oh my god gravity bong hits + that track = epic win.

 
The Dogs of War 2008-05-24 12:20:35 AM  
i have no comment on this...

 
Parasitic_Spin [TotalFark] 2008-05-24 03:30:57 AM  
Wow, I thought Rolling Stone was totally irrelevant. My bad...

 
WrongTrousers 2008-05-24 05:55:17 AM  
The Dogs of War: i have no comment on this...

With the unfortunate name of the worst Floyd song ever recorded, that's a good thing.

 
shaggenstein 2008-05-24 02:15:08 PM  
mofomisfit: miltonbabbitt

I'm with you on Meddle, but my absolute favorite Floyd track is "Echoes" from the Pompeii/Vesuvius thing.

/it's split up on the DVD but I had an old bootleg with the full track together, oh my god gravity bong hits + that track = epic win.


you both need to track down a bootleg called Meddler. It's live at the BBC, and it's the first time they played songs from Meddle live. It's perfect quality, and great for lazy day getting high on the couch.

 
KingKauff 2008-05-24 02:32:03 PM  
shaggenstein: mofomisfit: miltonbabbitt

I'm with you on Meddle, but my absolute favorite Floyd track is "Echoes" from the Pompeii/Vesuvius thing.

/it's split up on the DVD but I had an old bootleg with the full track together, oh my god gravity bong hits + that track = epic win.

you both need to track down a bootleg called Meddler. It's live at the BBC, and it's the first time they played songs from Meddle live. It's perfect quality, and great for lazy day getting high on the couch.


I think i heard that and have parts of it. I may be wrong, but Green is the Colour is the better of the tracks on there...with the exception og Echoes.

 
DeepDownHounds 2008-05-24 03:09:31 PM  
And just who do you think wrote those "milky" guitar solos? It sure as hell wasn't Roger Waters. He has to hire guys to come in and play like David Gilmour.

Yeah, and it's sad when Gilmour can't even play like Gilmour. I'll take Rick DiFonzo, Doyle Bramhall II, and Snowy White playing those parts note-for-note if Gilmour isn't up to the challenge. By the way, who do you think is even more bored playing those solos, Gilmour or hired guns?

When you wait decades to see Floyd songs live, you want it to sound like you know it. No lazy improv, no changes. I wanna hear Pink Floyd, not McFloyd.

 
Derwood 2008-05-24 05:45:22 PM  
DeepDownHounds: And just who do you think wrote those "milky" guitar solos? It sure as hell wasn't Roger Waters. He has to hire guys to come in and play like David Gilmour.

Yeah, and it's sad when Gilmour can't even play like Gilmour. I'll take Rick DiFonzo, Doyle Bramhall II, and Snowy White playing those parts note-for-note if Gilmour isn't up to the challenge. By the way, who do you think is even more bored playing those solos, Gilmour or hired guns?

When you wait decades to see Floyd songs live, you want it to sound like you know it. No lazy improv, no changes. I wanna hear Pink Floyd, not McFloyd.


maybe YOU want it to sound that way, but anyone who knows anything about Pink Floyd at all (ie not you) knows that the band was built on jamming, improvising, and NOT playing it exactly like the record. If you want to hear the record, play the effing record.

oh, and Waters can barely speak much less sing, while Gilmour's voice has held up better than arguably any other voice from his era (Plant, McCartney, Daltrey, Jagger....)

 
DeepDownHounds 2008-05-24 07:47:30 PM  
Sorry, I didn't realize David Gilmour was your boyfriend. My apologies. I hope he makes sweet love to you better than he plays and sings live.

I'm all about improv and changing it up as long as it sounds good. (That's why Ween is so awesome live.) Just listen to those two live McFloyd albums "Pulse" and "Delicate Sound Of Thunder" and tell me it sounds terrific. I think you'd be hard-pressed to defend some of that sloppy crap and say it rules, because it doesn't. Just because it's the original players with the original name doesn't mean that it sounds good.

Having said that, I just heard "Learning To Fly" on my way to the store, and that's a great song. Yeah...Gilmour WROTE that song and it sucked balls live BOTH times. At least Waters delivered both times I saw him, on his own stuff AND Gilmours.

 
iammess 2008-05-24 09:43:46 PM  
I just listened to Momentary Lapse of Reason and The Division Bell again the other day. I liked both albums as there are good songs there. But I was struck by how they had lost some of the old "edge" of earlier albums. It was like the old Floyd was muted.

This is what I think may have happened. The Sid years Floyd was all edge. Things were experimental and unusual. Then Gilmour replaced Sid, and some of the edginess was muted, but this lead to their most commercial success. The early work is hard for a lot of people to digest. I still like it, but less people listen to those years.

Roger Waters still had some of the old experimental stuff in him, and mixed with Gilmour's talents, we ended up with some good stuff. But when Waters left, I think some of that "bite" left with him. We are left with Gilmour's flowing, somewhat muted narratives.

Maybe what I'm hearing isn't a result of these factors. Perhaps it just is that Floyd had been around for so long that it the edge just wore away over time. But that loss is what I hear in those two albums. They're not bad albums. They're just don't grab me as much as the albums that came before.

 
falconpunch 2008-05-24 10:49:38 PM  
Dr.Salvador: mofomisfit: Peter Frampton bought it at the yard sale.

Nice one.
/Animals in an underrated album, along with Wish You Were Here


WHAT!?

If you want to talk about an underrated album then talk about the final cut.

 
Creeping Malaise 2008-05-24 11:22:18 PM  
falconpunch: If you want to talk about an underrated album then talk about the final cut.

This.

Final Cut is one of my favorite albums of all time, from the title "The Final Cut - A Requiem for the Post War Dream" to the song "The Gunners Dream", Waters just nailed everything.

 
falconpunch 2008-05-24 11:43:56 PM  
Creeping Malaise: falconpunch: If you want to talk about an underrated album then talk about the final cut.

This.

Final Cut is one of my favorite albums of all time, from the title "The Final Cut - A Requiem for the Post War Dream" to the song "The Gunners Dream", Waters just nailed everything.


The title track sends shivers down my spine with every listen.

 
FeedTheCollapse 2008-05-24 11:58:44 PM  
iammess: The Sid years Floyd was all edge. Things were experimental and unusual. Then Gilmour replaced Sid, and some of the edginess was muted, but this lead to their most commercial success.



you do know there was a 5 year gap between Piper and DSOTM, right? That gap was arguably just as "edgy" as the Barret years.

 
TSE 2008-05-25 04:24:42 AM  
DeepDownHounds: Sorry, I didn't realize David Gilmour was your boyfriend. My apologies. I hope he makes sweet love to you better than he plays and sings live.
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At least Waters delivered both times I saw him, on his own stuff AND Gilmours.


pot, kettle, black

 
sonnyboy11 2008-05-25 11:50:37 PM  
Creeping Malaise: falconpunch: If you want to talk about an underrated album then talk about the final cut.

This.

Final Cut is one of my favorite albums of all time, from the title "The Final Cut - A Requiem for the Post War Dream" to the song "The Gunners Dream", Waters just nailed everything.


I'm running behind with a reponse but

THIS

Final Cut is an outstanding record that for some reason took a hit from critics and fans alike. I listen to it now and I think it's pretty damn great. Not sure what the deal was with the overall response to that record.

 
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