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(National Review) Interesting How McCain can win: Pledge to serve only one term, pick a Democrat as VP, and emphasize his comprehensive punk-free lawn policy   (article.nationalreview.com) divider line 59
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karasoth 2008-05-23 09:58:13 AM  
I wonder what he smoked to write this article

 
The Stealth Hippopotamus [TotalFark] 2008-05-23 10:02:28 AM  
For the love of God McCain!! Pick Mitt!!!

 
baorao 2008-05-23 10:03:42 AM  
because none of that will piss off Republican voters.

 
what_now [TotalFark] 2008-05-23 10:04:32 AM  
The Stealth Hippopotamus: For the love of God McCain!! Pick Mitt Hillary!!!

This would be awesome. I'd love to watch as 95%* of Hillary supporters realize that she'll do whatever it takes to stay in power, and doesn't give a fark about them.

* the Hillaryis44 people of course, would not get that.

 
Tastes Like Chicken [TotalFark] 2008-05-23 10:05:04 AM  
I love this - after years of the Democrats trying hard to be Republican Lite, they suddenly grow a pair and now the Republicans are trying hard to be Democrat Lite.

Thanks Bushie! Heckuva job undermining your party's chances so badly even Hillary's attempted kamikaze style campaign couldn't give your boy a boost.

 
quickdraw [TotalFark] 2008-05-23 10:07:29 AM  
slicknovel.com

 
Diogenes [TotalFark] 2008-05-23 10:15:45 AM  
I don't think it would be wise to plan your campaign the same way you plan your Fantasy Baseball Team.

Cute idea and all, but totally unrealistic.

 
UNC_Samurai [TotalFark] 2008-05-23 10:21:25 AM  
If McCain from 2000 would strike down McCain from 2008 and replace him, then I'd vote for him. McCain is another example of what happens when an idealistic politician gets comfy in DC.

 
Pocket Ninja [TotalFark] 2008-05-23 10:26:10 AM  
Ah, the "say anything you can possibly think of that reflects your utter desperation and certainty of imminent defeat" platform.

 
The Stealth Hippopotamus [TotalFark] 2008-05-23 10:27:07 AM  
UNC_Samurai: If McCain from 2000 would strike down McCain from 2008 and replace him, then I'd vote for him. McCain is another example of what happens when an idealistic politician gets comfy in DC.

So you are trying to say that only in the last 8 years McCain sold his soul?

Come on I'm forced to vote for this guy and I cant swallow that.

 
SherKhan 2008-05-23 10:29:29 AM  
Tastes Like Chicken:

Thanks Bushie! Heckuva job undermining your party's chances so badly

I can smell eau du sarcastic
But I think that it's fantastic
First destroy the GOP
Next up then's the DNC
If we get rid of both of these
I'll break out in woots and wees

 
Suicidal Writer 2008-05-23 10:36:58 AM  
He has already locked the election up. He just needs to not do anything to sever support amongst conservatives. A VP nod is pretty overrated. McCain has to promise judges, judges, and more judges. The election is his. He doesn't even have to appoint rightist judges. He just has to pretend he will.

A VP pick might lead to a bump in the VPs home state, but religious conservatives aren't going to get enthusiastic about a sinecure.

 
quickdraw [TotalFark] 2008-05-23 10:40:51 AM  
slicknovel.com

 
keylock71 2008-05-23 10:45:47 AM  
Suicidal Writer: He has already locked the election up.


That's an insanely moronic thing to say this far out from the election...

I notice you keep on saying this in various threads, and the more you type it, the more it looks like you're trying to convince yourself more than anyone else that it's true.

(it's not...not by a long shot)

 
UNC_Samurai [TotalFark] 2008-05-23 10:47:18 AM  
The Stealth Hippopotamus: UNC_Samurai: If McCain from 2000 would strike down McCain from 2008 and replace him, then I'd vote for him. McCain is another example of what happens when an idealistic politician gets comfy in DC.

So you are trying to say that only in the last 8 years McCain sold his soul?

Come on I'm forced to vote for this guy and I cant swallow that.


I realize a politician has to get his hands dirty to get elected, but McCain got so slimy so fast.

 
captain_napalm 2008-05-23 11:02:35 AM  
you know how ELSE he can win? by running against Obama.

 
DistendedPendulusFrenulum 2008-05-23 11:04:22 AM  
Well, a blind pig finds an acorn

.

 
Ace Frehley's Ghost 2008-05-23 11:06:54 AM  
captain_napalm: you know how ELSE he can win? by running against Obama.

That's right, and since Obama has the nomination locked up, McCain can just sit back and watch the support roll in.

 
jbc [TotalFark] 2008-05-23 11:07:34 AM  
keylock71: Suicidal Writer: He has already locked the election up.


That's an insanely moronic thing to say ...


He's insanely moronic. What do you expect him to say?

 
Shrugging Atlas 2008-05-23 11:07:50 AM  
quickdraw

That's a masterpiece. Yours?

 
Bob16 2008-05-23 11:08:05 AM  
>> How McCain can win

Brought to you by the same wise men who said

1) shrub was the begining of a perpetual con majority

2) WMDs will be found. It's a slam dunk.

3) The repubs will hold onto congress in 2006

 
The Homer Tax 2008-05-23 11:09:25 AM  
"Pledge to only serve one term."

Guffaw. I believe that about as much as I believed the self-imposed term limits declared by the signers of the "Contract with America."

 
Bob16 2008-05-23 11:09:46 AM  
>> keylock71: Suicidal Writer: He has already locked the election up.

He's got THE math.

 
Tutelage 2008-05-23 11:10:09 AM  
keylock71: Suicidal Writer: He has already locked the election up.


That's an insanely moronic thing to say this far out from the election...

I notice you keep on saying this in various threads, and the more you type it, the more it looks like you're trying to convince yourself more than anyone else that it's true.

(it's not...not by a long shot)


You've been oddly silent when someone says the same thing about Obama.

 
quickdraw [TotalFark] 2008-05-23 11:17:00 AM  
Shrugging Atlas: quickdraw

That's a masterpiece. Yours?


Yes, thanks!
More in the profile.

 
Lawnchair 2008-05-23 11:21:21 AM  
Nunn is already on board the Obama train. Lieberman is on McCain's side, but, dude, Joe Lieberman. Popularity approaching zero, anywhere.

If McCain really wants the win this fall, one option comes to mind. Suggest that he's a one-termer, and pick Olympia Snowe as VP. She'd draw a fark-ton of HRC voters. She's got foreign policy and military experience, if not in a uniform. Immensely popular.

There might have been a danger that a pro-choice VP would make right wingers sit out against Biden, Richardson, or Edwards. But against that atheist muslim radical liberation christian black Obama? Ain't going nowhere.

 
keylock71 2008-05-23 11:30:03 AM  
Tutelage: keylock71: Suicidal Writer: He has already locked the election up.


That's an insanely moronic thing to say this far out from the election...

I notice you keep on saying this in various threads, and the more you type it, the more it looks like you're trying to convince yourself more than anyone else that it's true.

(it's not...not by a long shot)

You've been oddly silent when someone says the same thing about Obama.


Apologies that I can be in every thread when someone claims Obama has a "lock" on the nomination. I do have a family to support, after all.

Do I support Obama? Yes, at this point, he is the candidate I will be voting for in November should he get the nomination. I feel he will be a much better president than John McCain.

However, having said that, do I think Obama has a "lock" on the presidency? Nope.


Do I think he has a good chance of winning this election? Absolutely.

Do I think John McCain has a "lock" on the presidency? Nope.

Do I think John McCain has a good chance of winning this election?
Absolutely.

I think Obama will tear McCain up in the debates, but I'm not going to boldly and repeatedly claim Obama has the election sewn up.

 
Bob16 2008-05-23 11:32:38 AM  
>> If McCain really wants the win this fall,

Thats too bad cause the probability that he's gonna get what he wants is close to zero.

 
madmann [TotalFark] 2008-05-23 11:37:12 AM  
Bob16: >> keylock71: Suicidal Writer: He has already locked the election up.

He's got THE math.


www.madmann.com

 
Crude 2008-05-23 11:39:05 AM  
He can't do that because immediately he would be a lame duck President.

 
un4gvn666 2008-05-23 11:39:31 AM  
Suicidal Writer: He has already locked the election up. He just needs to not do anything to sever support amongst conservatives. A VP nod is pretty overrated. McCain has to promise judges, judges, and more judges. The election is his. He doesn't even have to appoint rightist judges. He just has to pretend he will.

A VP pick might lead to a bump in the VPs home state, but religious conservatives aren't going to get enthusiastic about a sinecure.


I try not to do this, because I enjoy reading EVERY opinion out there from fellow Farkers, but thread after thread, you show more and more how horribly detached you are from reality.

/My ignore list. Welcome to it.

 
DeadZone 2008-05-23 11:43:29 AM  
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yeegrek 2008-05-23 11:43:36 AM  
Suicidal Writer: McCain has to promise judges, judges, and more judges.

Even if McCain picked up the election, every metric available suggests that the Dems will increase their lead in the Senate, possibly, if everything goes their way (and real life never does), to a filibuster-proof 60 seats. Given that, do you really think that the Dems will allow another Alito, Scalia, or Roberts to join the court? Face it, even if McCain wins, and I don't think he will, the best you guys can hope for is another Souter. Enjoy.

 
biyaaatci 2008-05-23 11:43:39 AM  
quickdraw

The mustard man one made me laugh out loud. You are quickly becoming one of my favorite farkers.

 
Suicidal Writer 2008-05-23 11:52:53 AM  
yeegrek: Given that, do you really think that the Dems will allow another Alito, Scalia, or Roberts to join the court? Face it, even if McCain wins, and I don't think he will, the best you guys can hope for is another Souter. Enjoy.

1. It's possible that they could block a nominee. That works out in McCain's favor. He can point to the Democrats and blame them for being obstructionists, and he can claim he tried. It wouldn't be a surprise if he nominated someone on par with Janice Rogers Brown knowing full well Democrats will block it.

2. The Democrats will have to have a spine in order to withstand a GOP public relations program regarding nominees. When it came to Alito and Roberts, the Dems caved pretty quickly. If Democrats do make make gains in the Senate, these gains will come in seats that have a moderate-to-conservative electorate, an electorate that may have sympathies with rightist judges.

 
paper_champion 2008-05-23 12:00:00 PM  
That was a really desperate and pathetic article. Good thing Schadenfreude never gets old.

I'm of the opinion that McCain lost his best chance to win by pissing off the evangelicals so much. They were the only ones that could provide the ground-level organization and cash to keep up with Obama. Of course, the Hillary strategy is still viable. Just hang around, create ridiculous and baseless controversies (FL/MI anyone), scoop up the stupid and bigot vote wherever you can, and hope the Obama trips himself up again. It's still working for Hillary as we speak.

I think Romney is the VP that will help him the most. An attack dog with high name recognition, he would probably eat some of the softer Democratic VP pics alive in debates. Romney vs. Biden, on the other hand, would be totally awesome.

Romney: *something snarky and condescending*
Biden: This is bullshiat! This is murlarkey! This is outrageous! *balls his fists and turns red with rage*

Webb would be pretty entertaining too. he's got the "you won't like me when I'm angry" thing going on.

 
yeegrek 2008-05-23 12:01:40 PM  
2. The Democrats will have to have a spine in order to withstand a GOP public relations program regarding nominees. When it came to Alito and Roberts, the Dems caved pretty quickly.

They did. However, I think that they did knowing that they were going to lose the PR battle, and ultimately, the war. Keep the powder dry for Social Security and warrentless wiretapping.

Thanks for the JRB link, but I need no introduction to her. Unlike Roberts and Alito, who were conservatives cloaked as moderates, Brown is just unabashedly right wing. The Republicans couldn't pass her off as a moderate. Additionally, while I'm not a McCain supporter, I don't think he's the sort to play that sort of game. One of the damaging things of the past 8 years is that we think that kind of crap is normal now. The US is going to need a few years to shake the psychology of the Bush era.

 
quickdraw [TotalFark] 2008-05-23 12:02:12 PM  
biyaaatci: laugh out loud.

Aw shucks.

Feel free to spread it (and any of the other shops in my profile) around. I also take requests. My favorite shops are usually the ones suggested by someone else.

 
wolvernova 2008-05-23 12:24:56 PM  
I'll vote for McCain if he takes a more level-headed approach with Iran. If he picked a Dem VP, it would be the Senator from Israel, and he will not therefore have a level-headed approach with Iran.

 
culebra 2008-05-23 12:34:34 PM  
quickdraw

How about McCain Domo-Kun?

 
The Stealth Hippopotamus [TotalFark] 2008-05-23 12:36:27 PM  
wolvernova: I'll vote for McCain if he takes a more level-headed approach with Iran. If he picked a Dem VP, it would be the Senator from Israel, and he will not therefore have a level-headed approach with Iran.

Ah I guess you are talking about Joe Lieberman. Lieberman was born in Stamford, Connecticut and he is currently an Independent. But dont let the facts get in the way of the jew bashing.

 
Darth Otter 2008-05-23 12:36:45 PM  
Suicidal Writer: He has already locked the election up.

Dude, you just get more and more amusing to read as time goes on.

Sincere or not though, your posts are troll-tastic. Seriously, quality stuff. From what I've seen, you seem to be pretty civil too. So rock on, partisan! I'll be over here, giggling like a schoolgirl.

 
hovsm 2008-05-23 12:37:38 PM  
If I were John McCain, I would beg and plead to put Hillary on my ticket.

 
PC LOAD LETTER [TotalFark] 2008-05-23 12:47:50 PM  
Suicidal Writer: He has already locked the election up.

Your brain is the only thing that has locked up.

 
The Homer Tax 2008-05-23 12:53:13 PM  
The Stealth Hippopotamus: Ah I guess you are talking about Joe Lieberman. Lieberman was born in Stamford, Connecticut and he is currently an Independent. But dont let the facts get in the way of the jew bashing.

"Jew Bashing?" Damn, you are starting to sound like a whiny liberal.

paper_champion: I think Romney is the VP that will help him the most. An attack dog with high name recognition, he would probably eat some of the softer Democratic VP pics alive in debates. Romney vs. Biden, on the other hand, would be totally awesome.

From a purely LMAO perspective, I think Romney should be VP. From a realistic perspective, it's a recipe for disaster. Between McCain and Romney, the two have flip-flopped so much that they have held every position you could possibly hold on every politicial issue there is.

Can you imagine the ads? All you would have to do is have a fake debate between 2 McCains and 2 Romneys using actual quotes and video clips.

 
wolvernova 2008-05-23 12:55:25 PM  
The Stealth Hippopotamus: ,

That's a great way to elevate the conversation. The fact is that Lieberman is the most hawkish senator there is. If things went his way, we would have nuked Iran by now. This guy doesn't give a shiat about the U.S. My opinion has nothing to do with religion, I just despise an elected leader whose alliance to another country is worn on his sleeve.

 
quickdraw [TotalFark] 2008-05-23 01:04:37 PM  
culebra: How about McCain Domo-Kun?

Well I have to tell you I have a soft spot for Domo-Kum and don't think I can handle sticking Mccain's smug mug on her/him/it. I do have my limits. I could make a pro Obama Domo-Kun though. That would be fun.

 
Saiga410 2008-05-23 01:04:48 PM  
quickdraw: biyaaatci: laugh out loud.

Aw shucks.

Feel free to spread it (and any of the other shops in my profile) around. I also take requests. My favorite shops are usually the ones suggested by someone else.


I know this probably is not you cup of tea but how about the faith healing scene in fletch 2 with Obama and Ted Kennedy's head overlayed?

/Too soon?

 
quickdraw [TotalFark] 2008-05-23 01:21:54 PM  
Saiga410:
I know this probably is not you cup of tea but how about the faith healing scene in fletch 2 with Obama and Ted Kennedy's head overlayed?

/Too soon?


I've never seen Fletch 2. So I would need to watch it first. If the shop entails making fun of somebody because they have brain cancer then - nah - not what I consider funny.

"Funny" is a cage match between Barabara Bush and Roberta Mccain
slicknovel.com

 
Super Chronic 2008-05-23 01:57:48 PM  
The Homer Tax: "Pledge to only serve one term."

Guffaw. I believe that about as much as I believed the self-imposed term limits declared by the signers of the "Contract with America."


I dunno, I think if you make a pledge like that, you have to abide by it, whether you want to or not. Meaning: if you try to renege, the voters will boot your ass out of there and make you a one-termer anyway. Congressmen were able to get away with it because voters saw the local advantages of having a representative with seniority. I doubt that will fly with a president. I could be wrong though.

 
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