When is she going to stop mooching off of John's corpse and get on with her life? (Rhetorical question.)

Yoko Ono is like the guy that's not invited to the party, shows up anyway, acts like a complete ass, encouraging everyone else to leave, and then stays on the couch for a week, clogging the toilet, eating all the pizza, and drinking all the beer.

John Paul Jones: Yoko Ono is like the guy that's not invited to the party, shows up anyway, acts like a complete ass, encouraging everyone else to leave, and then stays on the couch for a week, clogging the toilet, eating all the pizza, and drinking all the beer.


Dude, do we know each other?

Yoko succeeds in reaching even greater depths of utter assholishness.

Yoko is getting up there in age. What happens to the Lennon management when she kicks off?

Imagine there's no Yoko.

It's easy if you try.

Ummm, Yoko, you are aware that John's pot smoking is part of what made him cool in the eyes of his admirers, right?

This biatch gets on my last nerve. It's candid footage of Lennon which is more of a documentary than anything you could offer your bullshiat opinion on. Why couldn't one of the bullets have killed her?

She's been busy with lawsuits lately, this makes two including her seeking an injunction to remove 12 seconds of "Imagine" from Ben Stein's movie.

Yoko was a Beatle right before they broke up, wasn't she?
I hear that's how she got all her experience in the industry.

/oh, wait, I'm thinking of how Hillary got her political experience.

You may say I'm a a naively idealistic, pot-smoking hippy
But I'm not the only one

Subby, if the best description you can come up with for someone like John Lennon is that he was a "naively idealistic," then you're not anyone I'd care to know. He did his best to make the world a better place, and in many ways he succeeded marvelously. He also inspired millions to do the same, and he's still inspiring millions today decades after he left us.

So other than getting a crappy headline greenlit on Fark, subby, what have you done today? This week? This year?

You lose.

I got no further than "Yoko Ono" in the headline and rushed right over to ImageShack:

What's the big deal? He can't get arrested for doing that because of the statute of limitations. Oh...and he's dead.

sens: Subby, if the best description you can come up with for someone like John Lennon is that he was a "naively idealistic," then you're not anyone I'd care to know. He did his best to make the world a better place, and in many ways he succeeded marvelously. He also inspired millions to do the same, and he's still inspiring millions today decades after he left us.

So other than getting a crappy headline greenlit on Fark, subby, what have you done today? This week? This year?

You lose.

No, you lose. Take your Baby Boomer Messiah worship somewhere else. The dude was in a band, that is all.

JuanSchwartz: Why couldn't one of the bullets have killed her?

I'll never forgive Mark David Chapman for that oversight. Dude, she was standing RIGHT THERE!

Who cares? Lennon was overrated.

sens: Subby, if the best description you can come up with for someone like John Lennon is that he was a "naively idealistic," then you're not anyone I'd care to know. He did his best to make the world a better place, and in many ways he succeeded marvelously. He also inspired millions to do the same, and he's still inspiring millions today decades after he left us.

So other than getting a crappy headline greenlit on Fark, subby, what have you done today? This week? This year?

You lose.

Yes. Lennon was a saint. And he started his "all you need is love" phase by deserting his wife and young son to spend the rest of his life with a talentless artist. He then spent the rest of his life making horrible music. He also had the gall to tell people to give away their possessions while living as a multi-millionaire.

If you can find inspiration in that kind of hypocrisy, more power to you.

wait, what

FuDude: sens: Subby, if the best description you can come up with for someone like John Lennon is that he was a "naively idealistic," then you're not anyone I'd care to know. He did his best to make the world a better place, and in many ways he succeeded marvelously. He also inspired millions to do the same, and he's still inspiring millions today decades after he left us.

So other than getting a crappy headline greenlit on Fark, subby, what have you done today? This week? This year?

You lose.

Yes. Lennon was a saint. And he started his "all you need is love" phase by deserting his wife and young son to spend the rest of his life with a talentless artist. He then spent the rest of his life making horrible music. He also had the gall to tell people to give away their possessions while living as a multi-millionaire.

If you can find inspiration in that kind of hypocrisy, more power to you.

What? Somebody from the Me Generation saying Do as I say, not as I do? Unpossible!

How old is this biatch? She must be pushing 100.

Wiki'ed it. Biatch is 75.

Yes. Lennon was a saint. And he started his "all you need is love" phase by deserting his wife and young son to spend the rest of his life with a talentless artist. He then spent the rest of his life making horrible music. He also had the gall to tell people to give away their possessions while living as a multi-millionaire.

This²

John Lennon's death happened just in time to help us forget what a mess he was towards the end. Everything he did outside of the beatles was s#!t, so what's really the differnce between him and, say, Ringo? At least Ringo didn't let his talent go to waste because he was too pussy-whipped to tell his girlfriend that her 'art' is worthless.

Lennon wasted most of his solo career by letting Yoko convince him to make avant-garde performance art instead of music, and he ruined his legacy by putting her in charge of his estate. So you can pretend like it's her fault, but it was his choice. I mean, Paul McCartney's made some bad decisons on that front, too, but at least he didn't record an album of Him and Heather Mills screaming at each other for half an hour.

sens: Subby, if the best description you can come up with for someone like John Lennon is that he was a "naively idealistic," then you're not anyone I'd care to know. He did his best to make the world a better place, and in many ways he succeeded marvelously. He also inspired millions to do the same, and he's still inspiring millions today decades after he left us.

So other than getting a crappy headline greenlit on Fark, subby, what have you done today? This week? This year?

You lose.

Yep, laying in a bed for days in Toronto, that saved LIVES! LIVES!

Seriously, he might have been one of the best song writers alive, but frankly the egotistical arrogance of thinking "Wait! ill write a song about the war, and all the politicians are going to pay attention to me, and all by myself i can turn this flawed world around! people will listen to the MESSAGE!" it was a supremely naive attitude, especially when he was too young to understand that sometimes there is other reasons behind war, socio or economic reasons, besides the naive simpleton argument that "war is bad"


Here's a clue, the music can be catchy as all hell, its a mistake to think that the general population (not the fanboys) actually listen and care about the lyrics

Lennon sucks.

Yoko Ono swallows.

FuDude: sens: Subby, if the best description you can come up with for someone like John Lennon is that he was a "naively idealistic," then you're not anyone I'd care to know. He did his best to make the world a better place, and in many ways he succeeded marvelously. He also inspired millions to do the same, and he's still inspiring millions today decades after he left us.

So other than getting a crappy headline greenlit on Fark, subby, what have you done today? This week? This year?

You lose.

Yes. Lennon was a saint. And he started his "all you need is love" phase by deserting his wife and young son to spend the rest of his life with a talentless artist. He then spent the rest of his life making horrible music. He also had the gall to tell people to give away their possessions while living as a multi-millionaire.

If you can find inspiration in that kind of hypocrisy, more power to you.

Spot on. I hate that song Imagine. The sheer, unadulterated stupidity, preachiness, and naivete of that song makes me want to puke whenever I hear it.

I'm not saying Lennon was a bad musician per se; he did great stuff with the Beatles. But a musician is all he was.

Yoko Ono wins court battle, blocking the release of John Lennon footage so future generations won't get the erroneous impression that John Lennon was some sort of naively idealistic, pot-smoking hippy and overrated hack.

wood: Lennon sucks.

Yoko Ono swallows.

Lennon, the Woody Allen of the music industry

I pretty much agree with every single comment in this thread so far.

FuDude: Yes. Lennon was a saint ... If you can find inspiration in that kind of hypocrisy, more power to you.

Bag of Hammers: No, you lose. Take your Baby Boomer Messiah worship somewhere else. The dude was in a band, that is all.

I neither consider him a saint, nor worthy of worship. I think he was an artist who was screwed up in many ways, and wrong in many others. In some ways that's probably what made him such a good artist. But he never stopped trying, and reaching. And to write his ideas off as naive as subby did, or to deny his contributions just makes you sound like an idiot, or at least a a bigger one than I am for saying I thought he was a pretty cool guy who did some cool things with his short time here.

John Lennon would be sorta pissed that you are talking about his wife this way. Hey, he loved her and she loved him back. We should get off her lawn and his grave, man.

/Imagine

I like his music. Not a fan of his politics...but who gives a shiat. I only care about politician's politics.

yagottabefarkinkiddinme: John Lennon would be sorta pissed that you are talking about his wife this way. Hey, he loved her and she loved him back. We should get off her lawn and his grave, man.

It's a good point. I was just looking at some quotes of his and thought I might find something from him telling us he didn't think he was all that great of a man, either. I didn't find any of those, (although I'm sure I've heard him saying it somewhere) but I did find this, about so many people hating Yoko so intensely. I can't listen to a lot of the music they made together and in many ways never saw the attraction, but she was his wife and not mine and he's got a point.

"We are both sensitive people and we were hurt a lot by it. I mean, we couldn't understand it. When you're in love, when somebody says something like, 'How can you be with that woman?' you say, 'What do you mean? I am with this goddess of love, the fulfilment of my whole life. Why are you saying this? Why do you want to throw a rock at her or punish me for being in love with her?' Our love helped us survive it, but some of it was pretty violent. There were a few times when we nearly went under, but we managed to survive it and here we are."

Sven_Burger: Yoko is getting up there in age. What happens to the Lennon management when she kicks off?

I assume it gets a lot better handled by Sean Lennon.

MFL: I like his music. Not a fan of his politics...but who gives a shiat. I only care about politician's politics.

Please stop... you're making too much sense

FuDude: Yes. Lennon was a saint. And he started his "all you need is love" phase by deserting his wife and young son to spend the rest of his life with a talentless artist. He then spent the rest of his life making horrible music. He also had the gall to tell people to give away their possessions while living as a multi-millionaire.

I was actually talking to my sister about John yesterday. I told her that while he tried to do good things, he was still a gigantic turd. You can do good things but still be a complete asswipe. She pretty much agreed with me. John may be her favorite Beatle to the point where she's pretty much a scary fan, but she realizes that the guy wasn't all peace & love.

And you know what? I like the image of John Lennon the wife & son deserting, hypocritical jerk better than I do the saint that many people have made him out to be. He wasn't perfect by a long shot. I'd rather have my heroes, favorite singers, & icons whole rather than have them pasturized for public consumption. I think it does a great disservice to both the fans & the deceased (or living celebrity) to portray them in this manner.

But to quote Dennis Miller: "It's just my opinion, I could be wrong."

HappyHarryHardOn: its a mistake to think that the general population (not the fanboys) actually listen and care about the lyrics

Dude, you're talking about a Beatle. The general population WAS his fan base.

McCartney > Lennon

Lennon > Harrison

Harrison > Starr

Harrison's "All Things Must Pass" is probably the best post-Beatles solo album.

That is all.

I just came in here to search for the words 'beat' and 'wife'. Thanks.

imagine there's no daily delivery of beluga caviar.

Every time I hear "Imagine" or that horrible Christmas song he did, it makes me want to stab an orphan.

bukketmaster: Yes. Lennon was a saint. And he started his "all you need is love" phase by deserting his wife and young son to spend the rest of his life with a talentless artist. He then spent the rest of his life making horrible music. He also had the gall to tell people to give away their possessions while living as a multi-millionaire.

This2

John Lennon's death happened just in time to help us forget what a mess he was towards the end. Everything he did outside of the beatles was s#!t, so what's really the differnce between him and, say, Ringo? At least Ringo didn't let his talent go to waste because he was too pussy-whipped to tell his girlfriend that her 'art' is worthless.

Lennon wasted most of his solo career by letting Yoko convince him to make avant-garde performance art instead of music, and he ruined his legacy by putting her in charge of his estate. So you can pretend like it's her fault, but it was his choice. I mean, Paul McCartney's made some bad decisons on that front, too, but at least he didn't record an album of Him and Heather Mills screaming at each other for half an hour.

THIS. I love John for all his flaws but the good lord called him home at the right time. He was on the path to bat-shiat crazianity.

Bag of Hammers: sens: Subby, if the best description you can come up with for someone like John Lennon is that he was a "naively idealistic," then you're not anyone I'd care to know. He did his best to make the world a better place, and in many ways he succeeded marvelously. He also inspired millions to do the same, and he's still inspiring millions today decades after he left us.

So other than getting a crappy headline greenlit on Fark, subby, what have you done today? This week? This year?

You lose.

No, you lose. Take your Baby Boomer Messiah worship somewhere else. The dude was in a band, that is all.

/facepalm

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Spot on. I hate that song Imagine. The sheer, unadulterated stupidity, preachiness, and naivete of that song makes me want to puke whenever I hear it.
.

Ya wanting peace instead of war is so stupid huh? Wanting a better world, the nerve of these people. Best we not even think about it.

Doublespeak: optional:

Ya wanting peace instead of war is so stupid huh?

No it's not stupid, it's just not incredibly deep or original.

Repeat:

The dude was in a band, that is all.

MFL: I like his music. Not a fan of his politics...but who gives a shiat. I only care about politician's politics.

That's pretty naive, considering the politician only chooses whatever politics will serve him to get elected at the moment.

Bag of Hammers: Doublespeak: optional:

Ya wanting peace instead of war is so stupid huh?

No it's not stupid, it's just not incredibly deep or original.

Repeat:

The dude was in a band, that is all.

You can keep repeating all you want, but I'd IMAGINE you probably weren't even around at that time to have any type of clue on the influence he actually had.

I love the skewering I'm seeing here of the sacred cow that Lennon has become.

He did some great music, but he was a giant douchebag in many ways as well. The Rolling Stone cover of him laying naked on top of Yoko like some sort of man-child was absolutely pathetic.

"At least Ringo didn't let his talent go to waste because he was too pussy-whipped to tell his girlfriend that her 'art' is worthless."

THIS!!!!!

bukketmaster: Yes. Lennon was a saint. And he started his "all you need is love" phase by deserting his wife and young son to spend the rest of his life with a talentless artist. He then spent the rest of his life making horrible music. He also had the gall to tell people to give away their possessions while living as a multi-millionaire.

This2

John Lennon's death happened just in time to help us forget what a mess he was towards the end. Everything he did outside of the beatles was s#!t, so what's really the differnce between him and, say, Ringo? At least Ringo didn't let his talent go to waste because he was too pussy-whipped to tell his girlfriend that her 'art' is worthless.

Lennon wasted most of his solo career by letting Yoko convince him to make avant-garde performance art instead of music, and he ruined his legacy by putting her in charge of his estate. So you can pretend like it's her fault, but it was his choice. I mean, Paul McCartney's made some bad decisons on that front, too, but at least he didn't record an album of Him and Heather Mills screaming at each other for half an hour.

Guess I'd argue "Watching the Wheels", "Beautiful Boy" and "Woman" off of Double Fantasy were great songs...I actually sensed he was on the comeback trail. As for Paul McCartney---he made Linda an integral part of Wings in the 70s. Not necessarily a brilliant move

Doublespeak: Bag of Hammers: Doublespeak: optional:

Ya wanting peace instead of war is so stupid huh?

No it's not stupid, it's just not incredibly deep or original.

Repeat:

The dude was in a band, that is all.

You can keep repeating all you want, but I'd IMAGINE you probably weren't even around at that time to have any type of clue on the influence he actually had.

That's sort of been my point all along. Baby Boomer Messiah is Messiah to baby boomers only. Baby Boomers mythologize every facet of their culture and play the "You kids are just too young to get it" card when we mere mortals question the so-called greatness of it.

Let me try to put it in perspective for you grandpa. It's like as if your folks kept trying to enshrine Benny Goodman as the greatest musician ever, single handedly defeated Hitler and his influence is felt on every farking piece of music you listened to. Hyperbole? Yes. Bullshiat? Yes. Guess what rainbow warrior, you and John Lennon aren't the center of the musical Universe.

/BTW, I'm going to be 42 next month.