And while Barack's small donors can keep giving, Clinton's maxed supporters can ONLY give to Barack. . .he is going to have a ridiculous money lead.

I'm not too comfortable voting for someone who got ahead by convincing people to give him money.

Hay Seuss, his last name is John.
Elton John?
It's not about middle names anymore.
It's all about who can tweak the knuckle ball on the last mudslung pitch.
He must be gay because his name is the same as a gay dude's.

staplermofo: I'm not too comfortable voting for someone who got ahead by convincing people to give him money.

Well, you've clearly never voted ever, have you?

staplermofo: I'm not too comfortable voting for someone who got ahead by convincing people to give him money.

The planet that you live on, does it have a name?

GAT_00: Well, you've clearly never voted ever, have you?

I vote LaRouche.

staplermofo: GAT_00: Well, you've clearly never voted ever, have you?

I vote LaRouche.

He was imprisoned for 15 years for tax code violations, and you have no problem voting for him?

Oh, and I bet he gets his money to run his campaigns from somewhere, but thanks for playing. Come on, 8 times, and you say he has never once asked for money. Complete and utter bullshiat.

staplermofo: I vote LaRouche.

Wow, the Insane Party has broad support.

/Not really.

GAT_00: He was imprisoned for 15 years for tax code violations, and you have no problem voting for him?

Those charges were made up because the fat cats in Washington were afraid of what would happen if he got full support. Look into it. There have been numerous attempts to discredit him, but the facts remain. He's been proven right on every major statement he's made for the past 40 years.

GAT_00: Oh, and I bet he gets his money to run his campaigns from somewhere, but thanks for playing. Come on, 8 times, and you say he has never once asked for money. Complete and utter bullshiat.

Sure, you can donate to help. He runs a tight ship and gets by on a lot less than Obama, Hillary or McCain. He's spent less in 3 decades than they've spent in 3 months. And he offers real hope too. He'll take us back into space. He'll bring domestic production back to America. He'll help curb CO2 emissions by bringing large-scale rail networks where they're needed most.

You clearly know nothing about LaRouche. Look into it, look beyond the two-party lies about him. LaRouche is the most brilliant mind in the world, and all he wants to do is help.

staplermofo: LaRouche is the most brilliant mind in the world, and all he wants to do is help.

Hitler?

zeph`: Hitler?

The two-party hate machine is in full force I see.

WHAT ARE YOU AFRAID OF?

Free thinking?

staplermofo: WHAT ARE YOU AFRAID OF?

Free thinking?

I actually read a bit of his literature.

He's a bad man. A very scary, bad man.

staplermofo: Those charges were made up because the fat cats in Washington were afraid of what would happen if he got full support. Look into it. There have been numerous attempts to discredit him, but the facts remain. He's been proven right on every major statement he's made for the past 40 years.

The burden of proof is on you.

Oh, and your little savior candidate is worthless if he is unknown. And I'd put money on 9/10 Americans would say "Who?" if asked about him. I had to go look him up, because I'd never heard of the guy before. Sounds like he has a nice little cult of personality thing going on you though.

Netweavr:staplermofo: WHAT ARE YOU AFRAID OF?
Free thinking?

I actually read a bit of his literature.

He's a bad man. A very scary, bad man.

Like I would vote for Bush for a 3rd term if I had to choose between him and LaRouche. Hell, I'd vote for a Hillary/Bush joint ticket over him.

netweavr: He's a bad man. A very scary, bad man.

Of course you don't have any specifics, because on a point by point basis everything he has said for the past 40 years has been proven correct. But sure, keep telling people that the truth, independence and freedom LaRouche offers all of us is "bad" and "scary".

staplermofo: The two-party hate machine is in full force I see.

I'm Canadian and we have more than two viable parties - not to mention significantly less hate. I quite truthfully have no idea who you're either talking about, Hitler just sprung to mind after I read that sentence.

WHAT ARE YOU AFRAID OF?

Neoconservatives.

Free thinking?

Nope. Pitch your guy to me.

staplermofo: Of course you don't have any specifics, because on a point by point basis everything he has said for the past 40 years has been proven correct.

Wow, you are totally insane. Good luck with that.

staplermofo: Of course you don't have any specifics, because on a point by point basis everything he has said for the past 40 years has been proven correct. But sure, keep telling people that the truth, independence and freedom LaRouche offers all of us is "bad" and "scary".

Yeah, massive cult of personality. You've had all kinds of stuff worked into your head. You're triggering all kinds of alarms in my head.

staplermofo: The two-party hate machine is in full force I see.

WHAT ARE YOU AFRAID OF?

Free thinking?

Hahahahaha. Nice. Snagged a few :).

zeph`: Nope. Pitch your guy to me.

He's supported rebuilding American infrastructure, and supporting international infrastructure to ensure ease of commerce. If you spend an hour every day in traffic you're losing productivity. Rebuilding roads and mass transit systems should the top priority of the government at this point. He also supports greater accountability for road planners and producers so that the constant blight of potholes will end. If you look at any major American city, they all suffer from crappy infrastructure. LaRouche has been campaigning for this from the start, and has been ignored for decades.

He wants to take us back into space. The private sector boom from space-related research brought American unparalleled prosperity. We don't have enough engineers because engineering isn't sexy. Space makes it sexy. A renewed space program will bring back American technical dominance and likely solve a lot of our environmental problems by having a base of problem solvers who can think like engineers.

He supports infrastructure in Africa and Asia. If you look at how Japan and China went from 3rd world countries to booming economies, it's all infrastructure. You can't get ahead if you can't get to work. Instead of dumping piles of food where it will sit and rot, we need to build the roads and rails in Africa and Asia. Free Market capitalism will spread production from there. There is prime agricultural land all over Asia and Africa, and the people on that land are starving. Allowing foreign businesses with the resources and know how to travel there cheaply will fix these problems. Again, this will pay for itself within 20 years.

staplermofo: He supports infrastructure in Africa and Asia. If you look at how Japan and China went from 3rd world countries to booming economies, it's all infrastructure.

We've reached our daily quotient of crazy. We're full up here.

You're understanding of global economic metrics are sorely lacking. Roads and bridges? Really? Your insane asylum, do they have more rooms?

quadropheniac: Hahahahaha. Nice. Snagged a few :).

I think he's actually serious. If not, this is possibly the best troll I've ever seen. That's the scary part.

staplermofo: If you look at any major American city, they all suffer from crappy infrastructure.

This is not a job for the president, it is a job for local and state officials.

He wants to take us back into space.

I'd support this, its actually the biggest thing I don't like about who I support. However, your reasons to support it, i.e. 'sexy' is just dumbing down a highly complex problem.

Again, this will pay for itself within 20 years.

I don't disagree, but prove that dumping money in Asia/Africa will turn a profit for us. Most companies that would do that work are no longer located in the US, giving our economy back no money.

GAT_00: I don't disagree, but prove that dumping money in Asia/Africa will turn a profit for us. Most companies that would do that work are no longer located in the US, giving our economy back no money.

He would retool GM, which is losing billions of dollars, to produce infrastructure equipment. This is something Japan is benefiting from tremendously and has very little competition in. Cummins makes better engines than Mitsubishi Heavy, and I'm convinced we could take a much greater share of the market.

A healthy world makes for a healthy America. We produce services and that's great, but we need a market for those services. If we take away the need for aid and get real trade in return both economies flourish.

Did I mention he's against war, and saw the mortgage crisis coming? He tried to pass legislation that would prevent the mortgage crisis months before it happened. If anyone listened to him we could have avoided it.

NewportBarGuy: We've reached our daily quotient of crazy. We're full up here.

You're understanding of global economic metrics are sorely lacking. Roads and bridges? Really? Your insane asylum, do they have more rooms?

Name one country that industrialized without first having international trade and the infrastructure to support it.

staplermofo: He would retool GM, which is losing billions of dollars, to produce infrastructure equipment. This is something Japan is benefiting from tremendously and has very little competition in. Cummins makes better engines than Mitsubishi Heavy, and I'm convinced we could take a much greater share of the market.

This is an absolutely pointless thing to support because how exactly would he go about forcing a company to change their business?

GAT_00: This is an absolutely pointless thing to support because how exactly would he go about forcing a company to change their business?

The government has meddled with GM since it started. If the government orders infrastructure equipment, GM will build it. If the government stops giving GM breaks, GM will stop building the substandard cars it builds here.
Look at GM's European models, they have tons of very fuel-efficient cars for sale in Europe. All the government has to do is stop propping them up and give them something to fall into.

GAT_00: This is an absolutely pointless thing to support because how exactly would he go about forcing a company to change their business?

Stand in front of their board and say, "Hey guys! Howabouts yous quit with the losing of the moneys and do something useful for the country?".

Oh, look, you've got a friend. Look, think whatever you've been taught to think, I'm not going to convince you this guy's ideas are clinically insane. But let me say this: he will never get elected on that platform.

GAT_00: Oh, look, you've got a friend. Look, think whatever you've been taught to think, I'm not going to convince you this guy's ideas are clinically insane. But let me say this: he will never get elected on that platform.

Name just one thing LaRouche has been wrong about in the past 40 years, or offer a better plan for helping Africa and Asia develop. Just one, and prove it wrong.

staplermofo: Name just one thing LaRouche has been wrong about in the past 40 years, or offer a better plan for helping Africa and Asia develop. Just one, and prove it wrong.

He's your guy. I don't know anything about him by my own admission. Prove your statement, or it is just rubbish. Or, if you really want me to do it, give me a neutral database where I can research every one of his comments and actions.

GAT_00: Oh, look, you've got a friend.

Are you talking about me? If so, are you retarded?

I don't believe that there's any politician alive that espouses the doctrine that I support - certainly not staplermofo's guy. I agree with him on space exploration and the importance of third-world infrastructure development, though.

GAT_00: He's your guy. I don't know anything about him by my own admission. Prove your statement, or it is just rubbish. Or, if you really want me to do it, give me a neutral database where I can research every one of his comments and actions.

If you can't research a candidate on your own you should not vote, ever.
And I was joking about LaRouche.

staplermofo: And I was joking about LaRouche.

Jesus Christ, that's the best troll I've ever seen. But why should I dump the hours you must have spent on someone I'll never vote for. I research people I might vote for, so get off your high farking horse.

staplermofo: If you can't research a candidate on your own you should not vote, ever.

Very few people should ever vote. Unfortunately there will always be disagreement among those who should on who actually should. It's just easier to let everyone do it.

GAT_00: staplermofo: And I was joking about LaRouche.

Jesus Christ, that's the best troll I've ever seen. But why should I dump the hours you must have spent on someone I'll never vote for. I research people I might vote for, so get off your high farking horse.

Minutes of research. You should spent the minutes so that you can say you have an informed opinion. Looking at the crazies and learning how to spot why they're crazy keeps debates honest.

Just look at Bush. He got elected the first time on perfectly sane and competent sounding positions like education reform. LaRouche and plenty of other crazy mofos have good ideas, lots of them. If debate were open to crazy mofos with good ideas, and people more accustomed to recognizing what is good and what is crazy, we'd have a better idea of where to go on things.

Take government backed medical plans.
Obama, Hillary and McCain all have more or less practical ideas. LaRouche wants to put people with AIDS in quarantine, preferably an island. I can virtually guarantee you that the three people who might get elected each have at least one idea just as crazy as that.

And you shouldn't look at political opinion just to see how you should vote, it should be coloring the debate. Make Obama, Clinton and McCain address the plausibility of light rail and high speed rail. We have tons of track that could support 100+mph lines, offering a real and reliable alternative to heavily subsidized airlines. And they run on coal, which we have tons of. It's cleaner, cheaper, better for our economy, better for our energy independence, and so on. If we opened up freer trade with Brazil and all the countries in between, biofueled cars would be almost plausible. We've been ignoring or screwing Central America for entirely too long, and blah blah blah.

There are lots of things that don't come up in debates between the two parties, and if people took and open and honest look at crazy mofos they'd have a better chance of knowing what to look for in the non-crazy, viable candidates.

Also, LaRouche hates Jews and was waaaay ahead of the Democrats on the dangers of neocons. He also thinks we can and should colonize Mars, right now.

Also, I have no idea what I'm talking about and made no sense for the past couple posts.

Holy crap.

staplermofo: zeph`: Hitler?

The two-party hate machine is in full force I see.

WHAT ARE YOU AFRAID OF?

Free thinking?

Actually, I'm afraid of spiders. And wasps/hornets. But mostly spiders.

Wow, its been a long time since I saw a thread topic completely diverted by LaRoach. Makes me nostalgic. Its like 1994 usenet all over again.

Well, all that other crap aside, the one clinton supporter I could accept as Obama's VP listed in TFA would be Wesley Clark. I like him, he has the military credentials, and is a decent guy.

/la rouche? Really?

Just for fun, why don't we just stroll through the Farkives and see who has been assuring us that Hillary would be our next nominee and/or president.

Just skimming through, I was surprised that Madonna was so prescient.

What is up with the hillaryis44 website? I can't post at all. Does the admin screen every post or what?

staplermofo: Also, I have no idea what I'm talking about and made no sense for the past couple posts.

Quoted for truth.

staplermofo: If you look at how Japan and China went from 3rd world countries to booming economies, it's all infrastructure.

Have you been to China? It is more of a 2nd world country than a first. China is decades from being 1st world.

staplermofo: I'm not too comfortable voting for someone who got ahead by convincing people to give him money.

That's how American politics work. Money, in many ways, is everything.

Support publicly financed elections, to change it.

redmond24: What is up with the hillaryis44 website? I can't post at all. Does the admin screen every post or what?

In order to post there, you need to establish a presence on other sites, troll DailyKos, and mock up a pro-Hillary blog. Or meet up in real life with an admin.

Srsly.

staplermofo: Also, I have no idea what I'm talking about and made no sense for the past couple posts.

I thought you were part of those swingline voters all the pundits keep tacking their opinions to...

Did somebody say LaLoosh?



No? Carry on.

/best one I could find

staplermofo: We have tons of track that could support 100+mph lines, offering a real and reliable alternative to heavily subsidized airlines. And they run on coal, which we have tons of. It's cleaner, cheaper, better for our economy, better for our energy independence, and so on.

Railroads have not predominantly run on coal for a long time.

Jeezuz--Just watch Thomas the Tank engine. Even there the diesels are making huge inroads.