Hillary is a biatch.

Mystery solved.

Are these people still on the staff?

If so the answer is "What are you talking about, when you say 'went wrong?' we're on track to win this nomination."

"What went wrong? My sense of judgement when I decided to marry her!"

-Anonymous

FTFA: We did silly stuff, like talk about David Geffen.

NOT silly, but par for the course.

An Exhibit A in Clinton 101 class: Brutally attack a potential (and former) ally for making an honest observation & daring not to drink the Kool-Aid.

WHY ARE YOU ASKING THIS NOW? IT'S NOT OVER YET!!!1!

"Devastating vulnerabilities such as Obama's associations with Wright and Ayers"

The real problem is that they thought most Americans are stupid enough to think of those things as "devastating".

They're all saying basically the same thing, no one thought is was possible for her to lose.

for good or for awesome: The real problem is that they thought most Americans are stupid enough to think of those things as "devastating".

They knew about Wright well in advance. If they had dropped the W-bomb just a few days before Iowa, she'd have won, nipped his campaign in the bud and be the nominee by now.

Either that, or Edwards would.

It's amazing. All of this blame, but no one looking at Hillary.

FTFA: "Her people spent all of 2008 making lists blaming each other (but never themselves) rather than lists of solutions."

Exactly. Isn't this usually the problem?

FTFA: "Running as an incumbent, as the inevitable candidate, was probably our biggest mistake, particularly in a time when the country is really hungry for change."

We have a winner!

Hideously Gigantic Smurf: "What went wrong? My sense of judgement when I decided to marry her!"

-Anonymous

snerk

"Running as an incumbent, as the inevitable candidate, was probably our biggest mistake, particularly in a time when the country is really hungry for change."

Alex?



"Yes, that's it--exactly."

"Her people spent all of 2008 making lists blaming each other (but never themselves) rather than lists of solutions."

Now THATS the kind of staff I'm looking for in a President!

"Hillary assembled a team thin on presidential campaign experience that confused discipline with insularity;

I've had quite enough of this shiat for 8 years now, thank you.

elchip: They knew about Wright well in advance. If they had dropped the W-bomb just a few days before Iowa, she'd have won, nipped his campaign in the bud and be the nominee by now.

Some Farker in here yesterday said that Iowans already knew about Wright and didn't care.

I mean, it's not like Chicago and Iowa are close to each other or anything.

Vagina's were made to get farked

'What went wrong?'

Two things:

1. Hillary

2. Clinton

1. They didn't realize Barack Obama is so awesome.

Notoriously bad managers, they filled key posts with newcomers loyal to them but unknown to and unfamiliar with

Ugh. It gets even worse.
/you're doing a heck of a job there, brownie Hilldog.

snoopaloopa: Vagina's were made to get farked

Ha!

The Homer Tax: Some Farker in here yesterday said that Iowans already knew about Wright and didn't care.

They might not have known about "God Damn America" and "the government created AIDS."

I'm not saying these issues are all that relevant or are going to make me not vote for him, but in the short term they would have had a devastating effect, methinks.

thamike: "Running as an incumbent, as the inevitable candidate, was probably our biggest mistake, particularly in a time when the country is really hungry for change."

Alex?

No, that wasn't in the form of a question.

PowerSlacker: Hillary is a biatch.

Mystery solved.

THIS.

So in essence her staff didn't know what they were doing and she didn't make changes when it still could have made a difference.

Yeah, that's someone I want running the country.

CravenMorehead: So in essence her staff didn't know what they were doing and she didn't make changes when it still could have made a difference.

Yeah, that's someone I want running the country.

In their defense, IT WAS HER TURN!

Here's one of the many reasons I think things went terribly wrong:

Obama is trying to shift the attitude about race in America from polarization to an understanding of differences. And how did Clinton respond? With the same racially polarizing attitude that politicians, black and white alike, have been using for decades.

It is impossible to disagree and have a counter view on message when the person creating the message is also the person testing the message."
...
"There was financial mismanagement bordering on fraud. A candidate who raised more than a quarter of a billion dollars over the years had to pump in millions more of her own money to stave off bankruptcy."

Jesus H.

Good article. Nice insight into what was a badly organized campaign. Too many egos, poor planning, conflicting messages, cherry-picked information, etc.. Hillary isn't that bad of a Democratic candidate, but the amount of disorganization and poor planning spoke volumes about what her administration would be like.

If Obama's administration is anything like how he has managed his campaign, then we will have a prosperous 4-8 years. That's why I'm choosing Obama over Clinton, then later Obama over McCain.

From the comments:

I would not write Hillary off, just yet. First, there are a lot of angry women disgusting with how mainstream media has treated Hillary, especially MSNBC (totally in the tank for Obama). Obama may not make it. Will Barack Thow Mamma Off the Train. Take a read: http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/05/15/will-barack-throw-mama-from-the-train/ "I now have it from two three sources close to senior Republicans that they have video dynamite-Michelle Obama railing against "whitey" at Jeremiah Wright's church. Republicans may have a lousy record when it comes to the economy and the management of the war in Iraq, but they are hell on wheels when it comes to opposition research. Someone took the chance and started reviewing the recordings from services at Jeremiah Wright's United Church of Christ. Holy smoke!! I am told there is a clip that is being held for the fall to drop at the appropriate time. The last thing Barack and Michelle need is a new clip that raises further questions about her judgment and temperament."


Ooooooga booooga!

Party Boy: Jesus H.

Great article isn't it?

You know, several months ago, when this was a completely different race, on both sides, I was being hit from all sides for being an Obama supporter; I, and I imagine the same is true for other Obama supporters, could not escape the barrage of "He has no chance!" and, "Hillary's gonna win in a landslide!", etc.

And my reponse was always, always, always: initial frontrunners hardly EVER make it to the nomination.

Now what are we left with? From Clinton to Obama, and from Guiliani(?!?) to McCain.

What a beautiful country.

elchip:
They knew about Wright well in advance. If they had dropped the W-bomb just a few days before Iowa, she'd have won, nipped his campaign in the bud and be the nominee by now.

Either that, or Edwards would.

I think people have become more savvy than that. The Wright "scandal" was an obvious twisting of reality to smear someone they can't compete with.

/jumps back onto Obama's nuts

Tor_Eckman: Ooooooga booooga!

LOL.

Unright: If Obama's administration is anything like how he has managed his campaign, then we will have a prosperous 4-8 years. That's why I'm choosing Obama over Clinton, then later Obama over McCain.

People say he's young and inexperienced, and I can sort of see that in his way of responding to attacks. One thing I do know is that he will attract the kind of cabinet I want running this country. Clinton has already established her cronyism and her reluctance to let go of it as a means to an end. So, after all is said and done, Obama's youth and slight naivete is actually a plus.

Unright: If Obama's administration is anything like how he has managed his campaign, then we will have a prosperous 4-8 years.

That's what change does. He's going to change the executive branch, change the government, change foreign policy... You know, change it.

How? Oh, wouldn't you like to know. Just know that it will change. For the better? Possibly. For the worse? Possibly. But one thing is for certain: It will change.

CalvinMorallis: You know, several months ago, when this was a completely different race, on both sides, I was being hit from all sides for being an Obama supporter; I, and I imagine the same is true for other Obama supporters, could not escape the barrage of "He has no chance!" and, "Hillary's gonna win in a landslide!", etc.

also, he is an empty suit that only speaks in platitudes. plus, he's a secret muslim.

quickdraw: Party Boy: Jesus H.

Great article isn't it?

I've read about mismanagement and such, but.. holy crap. I felt like America just dodged a bullet a four-year drawn out death by lung cancer.

"I don't think anybody in America doesn't think she can do the job. What they're dying for is to know a little bit more about her. And we were unable to present that side of her."

The fact that you STILL think this is why she lost. After getting her ass handed to her TEN TIMES in a row, you STILL think that everybody in American thinks she can do the job, they just don't like her.

We DO NOT think she can do the job. We DO NOT think she can work with conservatives. We DO NOT think that she can put special interests aside. We DO NOT think that she can end the war.

Jesus Christ it's like wondering if a guy who overdosed on heroin should have flossed more.

IMO, I think she assumed victory. For the past 8 years much of the Democratic voting public has been yearning to relive the Clinton years. The media was all Hillary hype. A lot of people were & still are eating it up. All of a sudden this young, well spoken black guy comes out of the blue (you know how much people love an articulate brother) talking some shiat about hope & change & BLAMO! The Clinton's are suddenly being eaten by their own. Falling from grace as if they were Britney Spears. Obama ran a campaign similar to the one that got Bill Clinton elected & Hillary never saw it coming.

Well, let's see...not firing Mark Penn immediately when he made obvious that he didn't know Democratic primaries are proportional, writing off little states as "not mattering..."

I just wanted to say change one more time.

Change.

what_now: After getting her ass handed to her TEN TIMES in a row

In historical accounts, the denial Stalin experienced when the wehrmacht was first tear-assing through the USSR reminds me of this.

Tor_Eckman: Ooooooga booooga!



I'M GONNA ANSWER THE PHONE AT 3 am, WHITEY.

/eeeek! Help us Hillary, you ridiculous f*cking clown!

jasonmicron: Unright: If Obama's administration is anything like how he has managed his campaign, then we will have a prosperous 4-8 years.

That's what change does. He's going to change the executive branch, change the government, change foreign policy... You know, change it.

How? Oh, wouldn't you like to know. Just know that it will change. For the better? Possibly. For the worse? Possibly. But one thing is for certain: It will change.

Ah, yes, because we all know that Obama hasn't mentioned a thing about how he would actually accomplish this change. You're right: he's an empty suit!

You have to wonder: where people excited for Hillary's campaign for Hillary Clinton, or for Bill Clinton?

As in, are some people supporting Hillary because it will put Bill back in the White House in one form or another?

Was Mark Penn the problem, or was he symptomatic of a larger problem within the campaign?

sounds like a clusterfark management, hell even Bush ran a better campaign than she did, and he still fails

jasonmicron: I just wanted to say change one more time.

Change.

Let's say he doesn't change everything. I'll guarantee you that his mere presence will change the outlook the rest of the planet has on the US. And that's a good f*cking start.