Ah, we are taking you off the shelf as it, you dont need to be dog food.

I don't know that I'd go so far as to call the Republican "brand" dog food. Milkbones, maybe, those little ones for the tiny handbag dogs. Or those little, twisted strips of pork you can buy to throw down as a quick bite. Or, I know! Those little hotdog-looking snausage things that smell a little bit like farts.

I liked this link better Crooks and Liars (new window)

Chris Matthews calls out some right-wing talk radio guy on the air for not knowing anything about "Appeasement"

The Republican brand is more like potted meat; made from buttholes and peckers.

Agreed. Let's remove them off the shelf. Then after a while they will reappear on the bottom shelf 50 percent off.

Says Tom Davis... Retiring because he would lose his district this year if he hadn't.

HulkHands: Chris Matthews calls out some right-wing talk radio guy on the air for not knowing anything about "Appeasement"

Bush and McCain don't know about it either.
they seem to think appeasement is simply talking to people.
No, appeasement is giving in to their demands. Not talking to them.
Like when Reagan gave the Iranians guns for help with getting hostages released in Lebanon. They were duped. They give aid to the enemy. They illegally went behind the back of the congress and the American people.
Hell we sponsors terrorism when it benefits us.
this is all a bunch of political hooey.

Your dog would rather have cat food.

HulkHands: Chris Matthews calls out some right-wing talk radio guy on the air for not knowing anything about "Appeasement"

Chris Matthews is an idiot and a Bully. When Matthews asked him what he did, James clearly answered "appeasement." Is that not what he did? Appeasement, he was an appeaser, he appeased. End of discussion. I don't see why that blowhard matthews had to continue to berate him.

Tom Davis should know. The Virginia Republican party is even more retarded than your typical Republican party organization. They blocked Davis from getting the Senate nomination. As a result Mark Warner will almost certainly get the open Senate seat and Virginia will then have Democrats for both senators as well as governor. Plus the retiring Davis's seat in NoVa probably goes Dem, too. Not that I'm complaining but you really have to try to fark up that badly.

In an election year that holds dismal prospects for congressional Republicans, possible financial problems at the cash-strapped NRCC are the last thing the GOP needs.

All of this doom and gloom talk just seems like a ploy to drum up fund raising.

yequalsy: They blocked Davis from getting the Senate nomination. As a result Mark Warner will almost certainly get the open Senate seat and Virginia will then have Democrats for both senators as well as governor. Plus the retiring Davis's seat in NoVa probably goes Dem, too.

Hey, well cutting off your nose and electing Democrats is better than electing a RINO.

The Homer Tax: Chris Matthews is an idiot and a Bully. When Matthews asked him what he did, James clearly answered "appeasement." Is that not what he did? Appeasement, he was an appeaser, he appeased. End of discussion. I don't see why that blowhard matthews had to continue to berate him.

he simply showed the guy's ignorance on the topic he was speaking
he had been given a talking point to go out and spread and that's what he did unquestioningly. these people are parrots for Rove. nothing more,nothing less.

The Homer Tax: HulkHands: Chris Matthews calls out some right-wing talk radio guy on the air for not knowing anything about "Appeasement"

Chris Matthews is an idiot and a Bully. When Matthews asked him what he did, James clearly answered "appeasement." Is that not what he did? Appeasement, he was an appeaser, he appeased. End of discussion. I don't see why that blowhard matthews had to continue to berate him.

He was looking for James to name specifically what Chamberlain did that was appeasing Hitler. James was able to do nothing but stammer, meaning he didn't know shiat, and was just trying to trot out a new talking point.

Wow. That is some serious pwnage of a stupid little neocon.

"You're in a hole Kevin, stop digging."

Well ,Tom Davis, the Republicans traded a party platform for demonizing the opposition. That works real good until you fark up the country and have no talking points on how it got there . . accept to blame the 'liberal fascists' that what to turn the country into 'socialism' -- especially when there's a Black man that is 'indistinguishable' from Adolf Hitler, yet still claims to be a Muslim apostate.

Really, have you just now wondered what your message is? A few really *deluded* souls still wonder to places like Fark and start babbling about big government and taxes -- as if Republicans ever stood for that.

You're already off the shelf fool.

The Homer Tax: Chris Matthews is an idiot and a Bully. When Matthews asked him what he did, James clearly answered "appeasement." Is that not what he did? Appeasement, he was an appeaser, he appeased. End of discussion. I don't see why that blowhard matthews had to continue to berate him.

Are you really that obtuse? Matthews wanted James to say exactly how Chamberlain was appeasing Hitler and the guy just kept saying "APPEASEMENT!!111!!" without actually saying what Chamberlain did, which was GIVE Hitler Czechoslovakia to hold off war for a bit longer.

Obama has said nothing about giving Iran, Hamas, or N. Korea anything. He wants to TALK to them. That is not even close to appeasement.

coolbeans56: Says Tom Davis... Retiring because he would lose his district this year if he hadn't.

In formerly dark red Virginia which now has a Democratic governor and a Democratic senator. Hmmm Wonder if he may have a point?

And to the Dogfood example, well the last Dogfood pulled from the shelves was that IAMs Stuff that had been adulterated by the Chinese factory. So is he saying that as a result of govermnetal incomptence, an immoral desire to make a buck at all costs and a too-cozy relationship with large corporations and the Chinese we can no longer trust the Republican product?


sounds about right.

Magorn: In formerly dark red Virginia which now has a Democratic governor and a Democratic senator. Hmmm Wonder if he may have a point?

VA's about to have two Dem Senators after this year' selection. VA for some reason is a state that always gets over-looked in the "swing state discussion," I keep trying to tell people that its 14 delegates are very much in play this year.

Terlis: Are you really that obtuse? Matthews wanted James to say exactly how Chamberlain was appeasing Hitler and the guy just kept saying "APPEASEMENT!!111!!" without actually saying what Chamberlain did, which was GIVE Hitler Czechoslovakia to hold off war for a bit longer.

Typical Lib trash, always trying to talk about things and give examples of stuff. That's the problem with you people: you have no sense of right or wrong, black or white. It's always shades of gray, moral ambiguity, and nuance.

Matthews asked a question, and he got an answer, "appeasement." Anything more than that is Liberal Bloviating.

You guys have no one to blame but yourselves.

The Homer Tax: HulkHands: Chris Matthews calls out some right-wing talk radio guy on the air for not knowing anything about "Appeasement"

Chris Matthews is an idiot and a Bully. When Matthews asked him what he did, James clearly answered "appeasement." Is that not what he did? Appeasement, he was an appeaser, he appeased. End of discussion. I don't see why that blowhard matthews had to continue to berate him.

No, what he called him on was not knowing high school history. The guy babbled about "appeasement," not knowing that the actual history-type EVENT was the partition of Czechoslovakia, and handing over the ethnic German part (Sudetenland) over to Germany. The conservative echo chamber and talk radio is cranking out "commentators" that can't comment on current events, because they have no idea about the past. The guy deserved to be humiliated in front of God and everybody.

The Homer Tax: Magorn: In formerly dark red Virginia which now has a Democratic governor and a Democratic senator. Hmmm Wonder if he may have a point?

VA's about to have two Dem Senators after this year' selection. VA for some reason is a state that always gets over-looked in the "swing state discussion," I keep trying to tell people that its 14 delegates are very much in play this year.

Terlis: Are you really that obtuse? Matthews wanted James to say exactly how Chamberlain was appeasing Hitler and the guy just kept saying "APPEASEMENT!!111!!" without actually saying what Chamberlain did, which was GIVE Hitler Czechoslovakia to hold off war for a bit longer.

Typical Lib trash, always trying to talk about things and give examples of stuff. That's the problem with you people: you have no sense of right or wrong, black or white. It's always shades of gray, moral ambiguity, and nuance.

Matthews asked a question, and he got an answer, "appeasement." Anything more than that is Liberal Bloviating.

Got 2 bites. Very nice.

He he he

And it wasn't that long ago that cons were running around talking about how Bush was the begining of a conservative majority that would last 40 years.

But the best part is ...

their track record is one of not having the slightest idea what they are talking about but they are still as "sure" as ever.

Thats the definition of a born loser

I'm a Republican, and I'm getting a kick out of these replies, etc.

But it's true. the Republicans need a complete image overhaul. but how will we middle of the road Republicans get rid of those far right screaming christian fundamentalists who decided they own us? I truly believe that the majority of Pubbies are middle of the road people. they'll take some ideas from the left, and some from the right and ignore the outerlimits of both sides. But we've been overtaken by the wackos.

So who will be our Obama? I'm not talking about his politics, but we need a new man or woman to lead us. A clean image and fresh thinker, not someone that's been dirtied by the entrenched Republicans. Maybe this election will be the best thing that ever happens to the Republican Party. throw out all the liars, cheats, thieves, drunks and ne'er-do-wells and rebuild the party from the ground up.

But I doubt it.

It because their already is a party/brand doing what the republicans are heading for, the democrats.
Until republicans become conservative again they will continue to implode.

Rodeodoc: But it's true. the Republicans need a complete image overhaul. but how will we middle of the road Republicans get rid of those far right screaming christian fundamentalists who decided they own us? I truly believe that the majority of Pubbies are middle of the road people. they'll take some ideas from the left, and some from the right and ignore the outerlimits of both sides. But we've been overtaken by the wackos.

You're going to have to fall hard before enough of your fellow Republicans realize that changes need to be made.

The Homer Tax:

Typical Lib trash, always trying to talk about things and give examples of stuff. That's the problem with you people: you have no sense of right or wrong, black or white. It's always shades of gray, moral ambiguity, and nuance.



I'm guessing all the clocks in your house only have a 12 and 6 on them then?

If you were truly appauled by moral relativity then you would hold this country to the simple standard of "if it's wrong when they do it, then it's wrong when we do it".

Childish I know, but there is an elegance in its simplicity.

Kinda helps you decide which side of the issue to come down on when our illiterate President tells us America now tortures its prisoners.

Rodeodoc: Maybe this election will be the best thing that ever happens to the Republican Party. throw out all the liars, cheats, thieves, drunks and ne'er-do-wells and rebuild the party from the ground up.

There would be nobody left in the GOP if that happened.

Rodeodoc: I'm a Republican, and I'm getting a kick out of these replies, etc.

But it's true. the Republicans need a complete image overhaul. but how will we middle of the road Republicans get rid of those far right screaming christian fundamentalists who decided they own us?

The fundies didn't "decide" that they owned you. They took over the party fair and square by organizing on the state level, and doing the grunt work of running campaigns. The money people in your party decided to kiss their asses because they liked all those people who consistently came out to vote, rain or shine, instead of when they had nothing better to do, which is the habit of most people.

Want your party back? Work for it. And let the fundies know you don't need or want their votes.

Tyee: It because their already is a party/brand doing what the republicans are heading for, the democrats.
Until republicans become conservative again they will continue to implode.

Actually it's because the current crop of Republicans are crooked and incompetent and advocate policies that are disconnected from reality. And also because social conservatism is increasingly going to be a loser as demographics shift. You guys need to abandon the premise of "social conservatism" and remake yourselves as just a straight libertarian or better yet "fiscal responsibility" party, and you might become a viable choice again. Stop letting ideology drive your policies and start being pragmatic again.

OneBrightMonkey: Kinda helps you decide which side of the issue to come down on when our illiterate President tells us America now tortures its prisoners.

You libs throw around this word "torture" all the time, and I don't even know what you people are talking about. Waterboarding is no more "torture" than that kinky stuff you guys do to your same-sex partners at night.

HotWingConspiracy: All of this doom and gloom talk just seems like a ploy to drum up fund raising.

Except that when it comes to fundraising in the current environment, the Republicans would probably have better luck dropping Larry Craig off in an airport restroom for a few hours.

The Homer Tax: You libs throw around this word "torture" all the time, and I don't even know what you people are talking about. Waterboarding is no more "torture" than that kinky stuff you guys do to your same-sex partners at night.

Hobodeluxe: they seem to think appeasement is simply talking to people.

Bush is in Saudi Arabia today.

You wanna hear some APPEASEMENT going on, just listen in to the sounds of Bush's lips on King Abdullah's ass.

The Homer Tax: OneBrightMonkey: Kinda helps you decide which side of the issue to come down on when our illiterate President tells us America now tortures its prisoners.

You libs throw around this word "torture" all the time, and I don't even know what you people are talking about. Waterboarding is no more "torture" than that kinky stuff you guys do to your same-sex partners at night.

Wink twice if your pulling my leg.

If you aren't I'd be interested in knowing why you think the following passage is indicitive of American integrity and values and therefore this behavior should be defended:

On May 25, 2005, Amnesty International released its annual report calling the facility the "gulag of our times"[37] [38] Lord Steyn called it "a monstrous failure of justice," because "... The military will act as interrogators, prosecutors and defense counsel, judges, and when death sentences are imposed, as executioners. The trials will be held in private. None of the guarantees of a fair trial need be observed. [39]

The Homer Tax: You libs throw around this word "torture" all the time, and I don't even know what you people are talking about. Waterboarding is no more "torture" than that kinky stuff you guys do to your same-sex partners at night.

If I water-boarded you until you admitted that water-boarding was torture, how long do you think you'd last?

>> I liked this link better Crooks and Liars (new window)

>> Chris Matthews calls out some right-wing talk radio guy on the air for not knowing anything about "Appeasement"

http://www.crooksandliars.com/2008/05/15/matthews-rips-right-wing-talkie-kevin-j ames-because-he-doesnt-know-neville-chamberlain/#more-29271

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Hilarious.

That is one of the best humiliations of a dumb conservative i have seen anywhere

Lando Lincoln: Bush is in Saudi Arabia today.

You wanna hear some APPEASEMENT going on, just listen in to the sounds of Bush's lips on King Abdullah's ass.

Yep. The Saudis have Bush (and unfortunately, the rest of us too) by the balls. Only the Saudis could have gotten away with no repercussions for their role in 9/11.

...and a followup from CNN:

"Breaking News: Saudi Arabia has rejected a plea from President Bush to increase oil production, a top White House aide said today."

How's that appeasement working out for you, Bush?

The Homer Tax: HulkHands: Chris Matthews calls out some right-wing talk radio guy on the air for not knowing anything about "Appeasement"

Chris Matthews is an idiot and a Bully. When Matthews asked him what he did, James clearly answered "appeasement." Is that not what he did? Appeasement, he was an appeaser, he appeased. End of discussion. I don't see why that blowhard matthews had to continue to berate him.

Wait, I know this one!

Bush's immediate response was: "Tribal sovereignty means that. It's sovereign," he said. "You're a .. you're a ... you've been given sovereignty and you're viewed as a sovereign entity," he added.

Sorry guys, but... You did this to yourself.

The pendulum MUST SWING, and the more you try to hold onto it, the heavier it gets until you just can't hold it anymore, and that just gives it all the more momentum when it finally does swing.

I've got to admit, though, you ALMOST had me worried that you managed to nail it into place.

But look on the bright side, eventually it will swing back to your side... And hopefully you'll be a bit wiser this time.

Lando Lincoln: Hobodeluxe: they seem to think appeasement is simply talking to people.

Bush is in Saudi Arabia today.

You wanna hear some APPEASEMENT going on, just listen in to the sounds of Bush's lips on King Abdullah's ass.

And Saudi Arabia is the biggest exporter of terrorism. Go figger.

/ 19 - count 'em - 19 of the 9/11 hijackers from Saudi Arabia
//former Marine, conservative republican
///will not vote for a republican ever again until republicans quit being hypocritical frauds.
////Nation building, outing CIA agents for political gain, torture, bloated government, out of control spending, Terry Schiavo, No child left behind, Medicare, politics of personal destruction - liberal policies now a trademark of republicanism

Rodeodoc: the Republicans need a complete image substance overhaul

FTFY.

Rodeodoc: So who will be our Obama? I'm not talking about his politics, but we need a new man or woman to lead us.

You had your Obama, dude. His name was Ronald Wilson Reagan. He arose in a dark time willing to try new things and had the charisma to get even his opponents to at least consider what he had to say. And love him or hate him, he managed to revitalize the Republican brand in a BIG way.

Obama is OUR Reagan.

Gulper Eel: Rodeodoc: the Republicans need a complete image substance overhaul

FTFY.

Thank you.

That may be the most clearly thought out response in this entire discussion.

I tip my hat to you - and we don't often agree.

Look, another story about how low the opinion of the Republicans is that neglects to mention that the opinion of the Democrats is just as bad.

randomjsa: Look, another story about how low the opinion of the Republicans is that neglects to mention that the opinion of the Democrats is just as bad.

If the public's opinion of the Democrats is "just as bad" right now, why do the party self-identification polls consistently show a major shift in numbers towards the Democrats and away from the Republicans?

SurfaceTension: Got 2 bites. Very nice.

Don't encourage them. Trolling is asshattery.

randomjsa
Look, another story about how low the opinion of the Republicans is that neglects to mention that the opinion of the Democrats is just as bad.

got anything backing that up?
don't put up congress' approval ratings, you know better.


ABC News/Washington Post Poll. May 8-11, 2008. N=1,122 adults nationwide. MoE ± 3. Fieldwork by TNS. LV = likely voters.

"Overall, which party -- the Democrats or the Republicans -- do you trust to do a better job in coping with the main problems the nation faces over the next few years?"

5/8-11/08
Democrats
53%

Republicans
32%

http://pollingreport.com/institut2.htm

>> Look, another story about how low the opinion of the Republicans is that neglects to mention that the opinion of the Democrats is just as bad.

Is that a fact.

Then why are the Dems beating the Repubs so badly.