Nominate her VP? Are you serious?

This scenario has the same potential as a Ross Perot or Ralph Nader presidency.

Oh, but Obama WILL pick her as the veep. Bet on it.

Get back in the kitchen and make me some chickern sammiches.

Obama is not picking Clinton as his running mate. No way. And this scenario is crazy. Clinton is going to withdraw by the end of May. At which point, the convention becomes merely a stage for introducing Obama the nominee to the nation in the most positive way.

Obama will run the show and he get's to pick his running mate. It will not be Clinton, that's for sure.

Clinton doesn't want to be VP. Only a political imbecile would think otherwise. She'll have a lot more clout as a powerful voice (or majority leader) in the Senate than as VP.

I wouldn't want her as my VP, if I were Obama. I'd be afraid she'd have me fosterized. (I.E. I'd be afraid of ending up committing suicide in a park with both hands tied behind my back.)

hooray!

So is this the thread where we talk about how the democratic party finally found a way to snatch defeat out of the jaws of victory, or is this the thread where we talk about how stupid and unlikely the article is?

the Clintons will have him killed within a year if she is VP.

This is a nightmare scenerio from my dream about nightmare scenarios.

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The way his hair(piece) bobs around is hypnotic.

Scary is right. Hillary as VP will put all the Clinton drama back and will make Obama's work much harder, if not impossible.

The argument is that the Clinton's can pressure delegates to vote Obama for POTUS on Wednesday then go against his wishes (assuming he doesn't pick her) on Thursday.

That would be an exceptionally divisive move, and one I don't think they would risk with such a late convention. Hillary's got to make her case for VP if that's what she wants, and garner the nod from Obama directly, or GTFO and work to repair the bad feelings. She's already making overtures in that direction, and I'd expect her to continue to do so. The cynic in me says she's doing it to either get the VP nod or to set herself up for '12 if Obama tanks in '08.

Yea, like this is going to happen. By convention time, everyone is going to be so intoxicated by President Obama that he could nominate John Kerry and people would still think it's a good idea

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The way his hair(piece) bobs around is hypnotic.
It looks like his real hair.

My FLV to gif conversion is a little grainy, but Fark has a pretty tight limit on picture size.

CRITERIA FOR BEING OBAMA'S VP, IN ORDER OF IMPORTANCE:

1st: Competence. Obama is simply not going to take someone he doesn't deem capable of performing the duties of the office.
2nd: Don't make the ticket lose. No sense taking a good candidate who won't get you the W, though when push comes to shove, he'll eliminate the incompetent before he eliminates the politically unpalatable.
3. Team chemistry. If Obama feels occasional friction with his running mate, that's fine as long as things get accomplished. But oo much friction and he'll just move on.
Distant 4th: Balance. If the other criteria fail, he'll take someone who's strong where he isn't. If THAT fails, then and only then does he select a state he'd like to win and take the person from that state.

Hillary on the ticket, would fundamentally fark up Obama's strategy -- and his message.

I can scarcely think of stupider move -- even if it brought him closer to winning the General Election, which I have serious reservations about.

But I don't think Hillary wants the VP lot anyway. For what purpose would she want such a job? She'd have *less* influence than she does now in Senate.

I got 4 stars on the Guitar Hero song Cult of Personality, so I feel qualified to laugh at how ridiculous this article is.

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I think he counteroffers with Sebelius. And he, as I assume he has been doing for the last two months, reminds the superdelegates of all the Clinton muck (starting with the 2000/2001 pardon list) that he has been too polite to bring up, but that he surely doesn't want to try and defend.

The last thing I'd want to be is the last obstacle standing between Hillary and the presidency.

The dems tried running a ticket in 2004 with two people who didn't like each other. See how that turned out. Can you please put some thought into this time, libs?

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I believe his VP slot is going to be as bold as the entire premise of his campaign. A white western woman would do it, and suit me just fine.

Well, if my ass-backwards state is any indication (wv), albeit a slightly-skewed one, there's lot of hicks who feel like they can't stupport Obama without Hilary.

-Minor threadjack-

...there's always talk on these threads about how Clinton supporters don't seem to exist in Real life ("Have you ever met one?" "No, you?" "Me neither..weird" etc.) Well, I met two yesterday..and they were friends of mine.

/ashamed, sat, and stuck at work for the next...22 minutes.

What the heck is a Super delegate and why can they sell their vote?

CalvinMorallis: ...there's always talk on these threads about how Clinton supporters don't seem to exist in Real life ("Have you ever met one?" "No, you?" "Me neither..weird" etc.) Well, I met two yesterday..and they were friends of mine.

/ashamed, sat, and stuck at work for the next...22 minutes.

How did they justify their choice in their candidate?

NEW MCCAIN AD:

-Start video of Obama and Clinton at convention floor

Voiceover: "So, who better to tell you about Barack HUSSEIN Obama than his runningmate..."

-Multiple video clips of Hillary being a vicious biatch and dragging Obama through the mud (video of the last few months)

-End clips

Voiceover: "Before you vote this Novemeber, remember, not even Obama's choice for Vice President wants to see him lead the country.

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I believe his VP slot is going to be as bold as the entire premise of his campaign. A white western woman would do it, and suit me just fine.



Senator Claire McCaskill, D-MO. She's been an outspoken supporter of his, and would help to deliver Missouri, which is always a crucial swing state but seems to be leaning red recently.

Not to mention that if she takes off her glasses and you squint a lot she sort of resembles Hillary Clinton. Hell, it may be enough to fool Hillary's 60 Minutes demographic into thinking they're voting her for Veep.

Has there ever been a ticket with two people that fought this close a fight through the nomination process?
I can't think of one but I'm no expert.

CalvinMorallis: Well, if my ass-backwards state is any indication (wv), albeit a slightly-skewed one, there's lot of hicks who feel like they can't stupport Obama without Hilary.

-Minor threadjack-

...there's always talk on these threads about how Clinton supporters don't seem to exist in Real life ("Have you ever met one?" "No, you?" "Me neither..weird" etc.) Well, I met two yesterday..and they were friends of mine.

/ashamed, sat, and stuck at work for the next...22 minutes.

Yeah, my cousin and his fiancee are Hillary supporters, and they're in their 20s, Ivy-League educated lawyers.

/also ashamed
//fortunately the rest of the family is prObama.

Wombatzu: the Clintons will have him killed within a year if she is VP.

This has been my feeling on the matter. Scary indeed.

Whamdangler: Obama WILL pick her as the veep. Bet on it.

I'll put up a month of TotalFark that he won't.

No clinton. This is nuts.

Not only does she fail to bring the military gravitas Obama needs, but she is probably one of the most divisive politicians in contemporary America.

For a guy who has, consistently tried to shirk off these labels of race and tried to talk about unified themes, to add this divisive person is really counter productive to his campaign.

CalvinMorallis: Well, if my ass-backwards state is any indication (wv), albeit a slightly-skewed one, there's lot of hicks who feel like they can't stupport Obama without Hilary.


I am amazed at Hillary's growth in that area. Maybe I'm just not in a place to see it (the, admittedly scant, Dems in my state went Obama by 48 percentage points). But, were these voters actually Hillary... 8-figure household income, Wellesley-Yale feminist theory, anti-gun Hillary supporters six or eight months ago? It doesn't seem like my recollection of 1992-2005. Yet, I think she has, somehow, endeared herself to a substantial proportion of that population, primarily as the "I'm not Obama" candidate. Impressive, though scary.

At that, had you seen this W.Va. footage yet?

poot_rootbeer: Whamdangler: Obama WILL pick her as the veep. Bet on it.

I'll put up a month of TotalFark that he won't.

I'll put six months TF that he won't

5h4wn: NEW MCCAIN AD:

-Start video of Obama and Clinton at convention floor

Voiceover: "So, who better to tell you about Barack HUSSEIN Obama than his runningmate..."

-Multiple video clips of Hillary being a vicious biatch and dragging Obama through the mud (video of the last few months)

-End clips

Voiceover: "Before you vote this Novemeber, remember, not even Obama's choice for Vice President wants to see him lead the country.

The content of this advertisement paid for by the Patriots for Truth campaign.

Totally. That's the argument he could successfully use to prevent this. He needs a running mate with confidence in his ability to do his job.

Lovely for us (R)s.

The hate Obama crowd plus the hate Hillary crowd is bigger than the hate McCain crowd, by far.

Guaranteed (R) win in November. Which will be meaningless, because we will lose all seats in the house and senate. HA! Love it.

Obama cannot run around for over a year running a campaign based on Hope and Change™ telling Americans that Hillary represent the opposite of that and then turn around and put her on his ticket. I may have a lot of things I don't like about BHO but one thing he is not is stupid.

rppp01a: Wombatzu: the Clintons will have him killed within a year if she is VP.

This has been my feeling on the matter. Scary indeed.

I would give it 2 years at least, that way, she could still run for 2 terms of her own.

FarkingSean: Lovely for us (R)s.

The hate Obama crowd plus the hate Hillary crowd is bigger than the hate McCain crowd, by far.

Guaranteed (R) win in November. Which will be meaningless, because we will lose all seats in the house and senate. HA! Love it.

Given her high negatives another good point.

This is the same Real Clear Politics retard spewing this nonsense. The Presidential nominee picks the VP. All this balloting shiat has been window dressing since the 70s, for obvious reasons. End of story, moran.

The problem with Hillary is that everyone sees her coming. If you're going to be a bullshiat artist, you can't be so transparent. To wit: everyone already knows that Obama wants nothing to do with her, and that if she ends up on the ticket it would be a transparent power play on her part and appeasement on his part. So it immediately kills any potential unity benefits to be had because everyone will realize his party has no faith in him AND that he doesn't have the juice to pick his own VP.

And not only does she bring nothing to the table, she takes stuff off with all her baggage. He'll constantly have to be putting out fires with them saying some bullshiat or another somewhere. And defending her from attacks he was too polite to bring up but the Republicans won't be, after all they've been waiting for this day for 8 years. And let's not forget, who the hell will muzzle Slick Willy? Obama should pick Webb, Hagel or Wesley Clark and just move along with it.

I heard she will demand the VP title be changed to Vagina President.

schief2:
Senator Claire McCaskill, D-MO. She's been an outspoken supporter of his, and would help to deliver Missouri, which is always a crucial swing state but seems to be leaning red recently.



Bold pick but very calculated. Good analysis. I have been saying Biden for months now, but I might have to change my pick.

Obama/Yomamma

I guess Granholm can't be VP since she's Canadian born. Too bad. I might watch a state funeral or two if she were attending.

Opiate of the Lasses: The problem with Hillary is that everyone sees her coming. If you're going to be a bullshiat artist, you can't be so transparent. To wit: everyone already knows that Obama wants nothing to do with her, and that if she ends up on the ticket it would be a transparent power play on her part and appeasement on his part. So it immediately kills any potential unity benefits to be had because everyone will realize his party has no faith in him AND that he doesn't have the juice to pick his own VP.

And not only does she bring nothing to the table, she takes stuff off with all her baggage. He'll constantly have to be putting out fires with them saying some bullshiat or another somewhere. And defending her from attacks he was too polite to bring up but the Republicans won't be, after all they've been waiting for this day for 8 years. And let's not forget, who the hell will muzzle Slick Willy? Obama should pick Webb, Hagel or Wesley Clark and just move along with it.

Not to mention all the things she has been saying about him. Reagan was beat over the head by Bush's "voodoo economics" statement for his entire presidency.