"Perpetuating war on the backs of the middle class"?

Going On Prozac?

Heck of a permanent majority, Turd Blossom!

Heck of a permanent majority, Turd Blossom!

Very much this
/Republican
//wasn't one in 2000, joined in 2002
///Rove-Delay school of politics is fail

Hey Karl- How's it feel to know that you helped ruin the Republican Party?

See, if you just listened a liiiiitle more.

what_now: Hey Karl- How's it feel to know that you helped ruin the Republican Party?

See, if you just listened a liiiiitle more.

Seriously, this.

My god, if Bush and Cheney had been willing to take the immense support they had after 9/11 and do something noble with it... what a difference that would make. I bet the permanent majority pipe-dream would be a reality. Heck, I might even support it.

Instead they decided mud-slinging politics and war-profiteering would be a better course of action. What utter bastards.

karasoth: Heck of a permanent majority, Turd Blossom!

Very much this
/Republican
//wasn't one in 2000, joined in 2002
///Rove-Delay school of politics is fail

wait...

so you weren't a republican when they were coming out of a relatively successful period with the contract with america and newt gengrich?

but you joined in 2002? and remain one?

are you insane?

Tastes Like Chicken: and do something noble with it

Like, padding their mates bank accounts?

what_now: Hey Karl- How's it feel to know that you helped ruin the Republican Party?

See, if you just listened a liiiiitle more.

I don't think he really cares. Rove is a spineless whore who only does what will get him more power. He doesn't care about any party, government, or person.

I think that if the money was right he'd work for Obama. He's about as loyal as a maggot to a pile of shiat.

RagingLeonard: I don't think he really cares. Rove is a spineless whore who only does what will get him more power. He doesn't care about any party, government, or person.

I know, but he will never HAVE power again. He had a brief flash of control- and now it's gone. On Jan 21st, 2009, no one in Washington will take his calls, and he knows that.

James Carville and Pat Buchanan are laughing at him. How you think THAT feels?

To adopt a classic line from Bill Hicks: "Doesn't Karl Rove remind you of one of those gay guys who likes to lay in a tub and have other gay guys pee on him?"

/wishes Bill Hicks had had the chance to go after this administration

burndtdan: are you insane?

QFT... I was thinking the same thing. Must be attracted to the hard fight or something.

/Or perhaps, just a strongly self-destructive personality.
//Or masochist.

The GOP stands for plenty ...
Excessive spending while borrowing to the hilt until you go bakrupt.
Oppressive laws that make it easy to earn money but hard to enjoy life with said money.
Meaningless wars that hurt our image, our currency, our budget, and our people.

go go GOP!

dillenger69: The GOP stands for plenty ...
Excessive spending while borrowing to the hilt until you go bakrupt.
Oppressive laws that make it easy to earn money but hard to enjoy life with said money.
Meaningless wars that hurt our image, our currency, our budget, and our people.


You forgot the part about constructing a theocracy by proxy!

The Fundies have done more to drive people like me away from the Republican party than even a malignant, dickless twit like Rove has.

RagingLeonard: He's about as loyal as a maggot to a pile of shiat.

I would like you to know that I'm stealing this line for future use.

A sign that GOP is standing for something would be if McCain stood on your throat, Turd Blossom.

"We believe in NOTHING!"

lol, subby is pretending to be smarter than Karl Rove! How cute.

Shortsighted, "win by any costs" politics = FAIL? Unpossible!!!

Karl Rove's "If we do what Ted Kennedy wants then he will like us and support us" style of political management is the reason that the GOP is in the shape they are in.

Hang On Voltaire: Karl Rove's "If we do what Ted Kennedy wants then he will like us and support us" style of political management is the reason that the GOP is in the shape they are in.

Wait... what?

The modern GOP is a structure built on three legs - Rove was the strategist, DeLay was the tactician, and Abramoff was the bagman. With all three of these men now out of commission, the subsequent collapse of that structure is now complete.

Hang On Voltaire: Karl Rove's "If we do what Ted Kennedy wants then he will like us and support us" style of political management is the reason that the GOP is in the shape they are in.

B....b....b...but Ted Kennedy!!!!

/Awesome.

This from the asshole who made sure anti-gay marriage amendments were on the ballots in swing states in 2004.

"Come on down to the polls and gay bash kids, and while you're there make sure to cast a vote for good ole patriotic George! He hates fags too!".

What a strategy - Making sure to maximize the amount of bigots that show up for your candidate by throwing them some "smear-the-queer" red meat.

Of course if Michelle Obama dares imply that this is a "mean country" she's a communist and must be relocated to Mars.

FTFA:
"Why is it tough sledding for Republicans? Public revulsion at GOP scandals was a large factor in the party's 2006 congressional defeat."

I wonder of how many of those scandals he was referencing he was directly involved with.

I can't wait for him to get nailed in the Seigelman fiasco. This is the most important election of Rove's life. If McCain get elected, there's no way he's going to force Rove to testify before congress. If Obama wins, Roves pudgy ass is going to make someone in prison very happy.

Churchy LaFemme:

B....b....b...but Ted Kennedy!!!!

/Awesome.

Not Kennedy's fault it was Rove/Bush fault for going along. "Don't cut the budget or the press might call us mean"

Hang On Voltaire: Karl Rove's "If we do what Ted Kennedy wants then he will like us and support us" style of political management is the reason that the GOP is in the shape they are in.

LOL. You are losing your mind due to the oncoming Republican slaughter.

Has anybody ever read those columns that Rove writes where he tries to convince us that he's a neutral observer giving candid advice to both parties? They go something like this:


McCain's main weakness is his modesty. The man needs to be more upfront about what a war hero he is.

Obama's main weakness is that he's not doing a good enough job covering up the fact that he's a muslim terrorist sleeper agent.

Hang On Voltaire: Churchy LaFemme:

B....b....b...but Ted Kennedy!!!!

/Awesome.

Not Kennedy's fault it was Rove/Bush fault for going along. "Don't cut the budget or the press might call us mean"

You think they listened to Ted Kennedy. You aren't that dumb.

are you?

Edsel: "We believe in NOTHING!"

Say what you want about the tenets of National Socialism, but at least it's an ethos, dude.

Tastes Like Chicken: what_now: Hey Karl- How's it feel to know that you helped ruin the Republican Party?

See, if you just listened a liiiiitle more.

Seriously, this.

My god, if Bush and Cheney had been willing to take the immense support they had after 9/11 and do something noble with it... what a difference that would make. I bet the permanent majority pipe-dream would be a reality. Heck, I might even support it.

Instead they decided mud-slinging politics and war-profiteering would be a better course of action. What utter bastards.

No one ever went broke underestimating the stupidity of the Republican Party.

Hang On Voltaire: Karl Rove's "If we do what Ted Kennedy wants then he will like us and support us" style of political management is the reason that the GOP is in the shape they are in.

Great. I spend one day away, and HOV goes and has hisself a stroke...

moops: Edsel: "We believe in NOTHING!"

Say what you want about the tenets of National Socialism, but at least it's an ethos, dude.

Phew, I was beginning to think nobody else would pick it up.

Hang On Voltaire: Not Kennedy's fault it was Rove/Bush fault for going along. "Don't cut the budget or the press might call us mean"

Come on, man. I don't want to call you stupid. I really don't. "Don't cut the budget or those mean old Democrats will make fun of us"? Will you please point me to the last Republican president who actually practiced fiscal conservatism? There certainly hasn't been one in my lifetime.

moops: Edsel: "We believe in NOTHING!"

Say what you want about the tenets of National Socialism, but at least it's an ethos, dude.

Dudewin'd!

Republicans quit thinking and acting like Karl Rove and you might win an election again.

Senescent Dawn:

Come on, man. I don't want to call you stupid. I really don't. "Don't cut the budget or those mean old Democrats will make fun of us"? Will you please point me to the last Republican president who actually practiced fiscal conservatism? There certainly hasn't been one in my lifetime.

Reagan at least attempted to but he had to deal with a Democrat congress. Bush had a Republican Congress there was no excuse for them NOT to balance the budget

Hang On Voltaire: Karl Rove's "If we do what Ted Kennedy wants then he will like us and support us" style of political management is the reason that the GOP is in the shape they are in.

Why would anyone ever do what Ted Kennedy wants?

Hang On Voltaire: Reagan at least attempted to but he had to deal with a Democrat congress. Bush had a Republican Congress there was no excuse for them NOT to balance the budget

The modern-day GOP is run by opportunists who want the best of both worlds. It has nothing to do with buckling to the will of Democrats and everything to do with pandering to both sides at once.

If you have no evidence blame Karl Rove,
If you need a scape goat blame Karl Rove,
If you're a liberal and you know it
And you really want to show it
If you have nothing what so ever, blame Karl Rove.

Typical White Person: Hang On Voltaire: Karl Rove's "If we do what Ted Kennedy wants then he will like us and support us" style of political management is the reason that the GOP is in the shape they are in.

Why would anyone ever do what Ted Kennedy wants?

Ah, it must be the new GOP talking point.

"Sure, we screwed things up royally, but it was all TED KENNEDY'S fault."

PascalsGhost:
You think they listened to Ted Kennedy. You aren't that dumb.

are you?


I am referring to the "Gee if we do what Ted Kennedy wants he and the press will like us" line of thinking. It goes back to one of Bush's first pieces of legislation which was an over bloated full of bureaucracy education bill essentially written by Ted Kennedy.

Conservatives stand for plenty. Unfortunately, the Republican party is busy turning itself into Democrat Lite by purging itself of conservatives. Not that it's doing them any good. If both parties are for higher taxes, higher spending, more regulation, and nannystatism, you may as well get it from the experts.

Republicans need to get back to their core conservative values... a return to Reagenaism.. if you will... you remember, the good old times when we were selling weapons to iran to arm death squads in south america.

Senescent Dawn:
The modern-day GOP is run by opportunists who want the best of both worlds. It has nothing to do with buckling to the will of Democrats and everything to do with pandering to both sides at once.

Which is somewhat what I am saying.

Hang On Voltaire: Which is somewhat what I am saying.

Well, okay. I understand you to that extent, then. Still it's not fair to blame Democrats. What the Republican Party has become was calculated and intentional -- it wasn't political cowardice, it was political expediency. The country was used to Reaganite Cold-War spending sprees, and damned if the Republicans weren't going to grant it, while lowering taxes so they could claim the moral high ground. It's madness.

Hang On Voltaire: PascalsGhost:
You think they listened to Ted Kennedy. You aren't that dumb.

are you?


I am referring to the "Gee if we do what Ted Kennedy wants he and the press will like us" line of thinking. It goes back to one of Bush's first pieces of legislation which was an over bloated full of bureaucracy education bill essentially written by Ted Kennedy.

You're assuming core principles on the part of Bush and Rove. That's where you FAIL

what_now: RagingLeonard: I don't think he really cares. Rove is a spineless whore who only does what will get him more power. He doesn't care about any party, government, or person.

I know, but he will never HAVE power again. He had a brief flash of control- and now it's gone. On Jan 21st, 2009, no one in Washington will take his calls, and he knows that.

James Carville and Pat Buchanan are laughing at him. How you think THAT feels?

Why would Carville and Buchanan be laughing? Neither of them have power. One is a CNN political contributor, the other is an MSNBC political contributor. And now that Rove is a political contributor to FOX News, I would suspect Rove feel just like Carville and Buchanan.

Or was that your point?

PascalsGhost: You think they listened to Ted Kennedy. You aren't that dumb.

are you?

Yeah, President Bush would NEVER support a bill sponsored by Ted kennedy!