Obama needs to go after the white women vote...

Yes. Because in the Republican mythology, a man born to a working class family who works his own way up to success and wealth is less respectable and more of an out-of-touch elitist than a blue-blood son of privilege whose manipulation of family connections earned him everything he ever had.

shut up shut up shut up shut up shut up SHUT UP SHUT UP SHUT UP SHUT UP SHUT UP!

SHUT. UP.

Pocket Ninja: Yes. Because in the Republican mythology, a man born to a working class family who works his own way up to success and wealth is less respectable and more of an out-of-touch elitist than a blue-blood son of privilege whose manipulation of family connections earned him everything he ever had.

Like Ted Kennedy? Al Gore?

Dogbeast: shut up shut up shut up shut up shut up SHUT UP SHUT UP SHUT UP SHUT UP SHUT UP!

SHUT. UP.

You sound like a 10 year-old spoiled little brat who isn't getting her way.

Why yes, TheDumbBlonde, like Ted Kennedy and Al Gore and George Bush and John McCain.

But unlike Edwards or Obama.

TheDumbBlonde: Like Ted Kennedy? Al Gore?

There's wealth on both sides of the aisles. Which is why arguments painting people as "elitists," etc. are simply absurdities.

Are you honestly operating under the belief, though, that one side doesn't use the "they're elitists" argument as a foundation for the strength of their candidates more than the other?

mmm... pancake: You sound like a 10 year-old spoiled little brat who isn't getting her way.

Have you lot stopped submitting mindless stories about various political candidates? No? Then you're exactly right.

Pocket Ninja: TheDumbBlonde: Like Ted Kennedy? Al Gore?

There's wealth on both sides of the aisles. Which is why arguments painting people as "elitists," etc. are simply absurdities.

Are you honestly operating under the belief, though, that one side doesn't use the "they're elitists" argument as a foundation for the strength of their candidates more than the other?

I think it's safe to say that none of the major presidential candidates of the last 20 years would willingly head down to the local volunteer fire company social hall to watch NASCAR with the regulars. The difference is the Republicans successfully convinced those fire hall regulars that the R candidates not only would come down, but would much prefer kicking back and arguing Dale Jr vs. Stewart to having to drink wine and eat brie on some private jet.

TheDumbBlonde: Like Ted Kennedy? Al Gore?

I think he meant more like John Kerry and Nancy Pelosi, and Mark Green

Can we assume that the conjured spirit of Jennifer Campbell (new window)is also endorsing Obama? (She speaks through John to ask juries for larger payouts)

/"I have to tell you right now -- I didn't plan to talk about this -- right now I feel her, I feel her presence," he said in his record-setting 1985 lawsuit on behalf of Jennifer Campbell, born brain-damaged after being deprived of oxygen during labor. "She's inside me and she's talking to you. . . . And this is what she says to you. She says, `I don't ask for your pity. What I ask for is your strength. And I don't ask for your sympathy, but I do ask for your courage.' "

Can we just scrap them all and start over??

TheDumbBlonde: Like Ted Kennedy? Al Gore?

were we talking about kennedy and gore? i thought we were talking about edwards and obama.

FTFA "...Edwards went on to say "Huh? My story? Okay. It was never easy for me. I was born a poor black child. I remember the days, sittin' on the porch with my family, singin' and dancin' down in Mississippi."

Recent presidents of privilege: GWB, Bush Sr., FDR, Taft, Teddy Roosevelt

Presidents who were relatively self-made: Clinton, Reagan, Carter, Ford, Nixon, LBJ, Eisenhower, Truman, Hoover, Coolidge, Harding, Wilson


All in all, a pretty respectable list. We really have had 4 royal families (that I can recall) in US history: Adams, Roosevelt, Kennedy and Bush. The Clintons are trying, but they aren't depending on old family history to get things done. Now, if Chelsea goes on to become a prominent politician, I'll adjust my argument.

Whoops!

I left JFK out of my recent presidents of privilege list. Sorry.

the endorsement was probably more pointed at the superdelegates than voters.

burndtdan: the endorsement was probably more pointed at the superdelegates than voters.

Definitely something to that. Hopefully we'll see another 2 or 3 superdelegates going to Obama today.

TheDumbBlonde: Pocket Ninja: Yes. Because in the Republican mythology, a man born to a working class family who works his own way up to success and wealth is less respectable and more of an out-of-touch elitist than a blue-blood son of privilege whose manipulation of family connections earned him everything he ever had.

Like Ted Kennedy? Al Gore?

You done convinced me - I won't be voting for either of those two for President!

Rich white people, even lawyers, do appeal to poor white Americans a lot. It reminds them who's really in power in this country. It soothes their bitterness so they don't have to cling to guns and religion as tightly.

But Bush and Cheney are totally shoulder-to-shoulder with the working class. One hunts and the other knows how to prune brush! Never mind that they're rich, privileged oil men that believe in corporate welfare and hand out tax breaks to the rich like money grew on trees.

The Stealth Hippopotamus: Can we just scrap them all and start over??

If we can take all politicians out in one go, I'm game. Honesty and integrity left the building long before Elvis did, now it's just a matter of picking who has more of a conscious left.

TheDumbBlonde: Like Ted Kennedy? Al Gore?

Those guys are running for president this year?

burndtdan: the endorsement was probably more pointed at the superdelegates than voters.

I read somewhere that "Edwards insiders" felt that Hillary was doing too much damage by splitting off the low-income white vote, and he felt that his endorsement would abrogate some of that effect.

Pocket Ninja: Yes. Because in the Republican mythology, a man born to a working class family who works his own way up to success and wealth is less respectable and more of an out-of-touch elitist than a blue-blood son of privilege whose manipulation of family connections earned him everything he ever had.

No one said Edwards didn't work his way up from next-to-nothing. How he did it, though, was dispicable.

Trial lawyers are white trash retirement plans.

downstairs: No one said Edwards didn't work his way up from next-to-nothing. How he did it, though, was dispicable.


You sound very knowledgeable about his history. Which specific cases of his do you find reprehensible? I'm sure the list is long and detailed.

alywa: ...Now, if Chelsea goes on to become a prominent politician, I'll adjust my argument.

I don't see that happening unless she really busts her hiney and gains a better rep than her folks.

They're currently favoring a rich, white corporate lawyer.

I think John Edwards would have made a great Nazi. He could have signed off an order to boil down Jews for their gold teeth, signed it with a flourish and then gave a big cherry 'how YOU doin?' grin to the german office girl.

So true, what they truly love are rich Yale-educated East Coast elites who live on "ranches" and clear brush to look like a commoner.

Dogbeast: shut up shut up shut up shut up shut up SHUT UP SHUT UP SHUT UP SHUT UP SHUT UP!

SHUT. UP.

Clearly a Clinton supporter...

Maybe he needs to clear some brush?

/America: we get what we deserve

"...nobody appeals more to working people than a rich white trial lawyer."

A rich white trial lawyer who has been a tireless advocate for the poor and downtrodden, in courtrooms and in Congress, for the past 20 years. Jackass.

Obama courts the white working class following Edwards endorsement because nobody appeals more to working people than a rich white trial lawyer

or a multi-millionaire lawyer whose married to a former president.

I am a rich white trial lawyer and I'm getting a kick out these replies.

BlorfMaster: I think John Edwards would have made a great Nazi. He could have signed off an order to boil down Jews for their gold teeth, signed it with a flourish and then gave a big cherry 'how YOU doin?' grin to the german office girl.

You better watch out or someone is going to post that HURR picture you hold so dear in response to you

This is America!

Everyone who believes in HOPE and CHANGE thinks that one day THEY'LL be a Rich White Elitist.

Poor people loved Bobby Kennedy and he wasn't exactly on food stamps, you know.

+1 to the argument diverter, DumbBlonde. Really top-notch stuff.

MagicianNamedGob: "...nobody appeals more to working people than a rich white trial lawyer."

A rich white trial lawyer who has been an ambulance chaser tireless advocate for the poor and downtrodden, in courtrooms and in Congress, for the past 20 years. Jackass.


FTFY.

There is absolutely no way Edwards will be Obama's running mate.
1. He will not be a help in his home state. Edwards cannot win an election in his home state and he will not help carry it.
2. To liberal. One of the mantras McCain will continue is that Obama is to far to the left. Edwards is considered very liberal. No help with the moderate voters.

Best guess is that Edwards wants to be Attorney General. If he is on the democrat's ticket, Cindy can start picking out the china pattern now.

BlorfMaster

I think John Edwards would have made a great Nazi. He could have signed off an order to boil down Jews for their gold teeth, signed it with a flourish and then gave a big cherry 'how YOU doin?' grin to the german office girl.

Nice troll! Full of Goodwin and with a hint some misogny... You get 8/10

Edsel: TheDumbBlonde: Like Ted Kennedy? Al Gore?

Those guys are running for president this year?

No, Ted won't be running.

Diogenes: But Bush and Cheney are totally shoulder-to-shoulder with the working class. One hunts and the other knows how to prune brush! Never mind that they're rich, privileged oil men that believe in corporate welfare and hand out tax breaks to the rich like money grew on trees.

Well, Bush is someone who you would like to have a beer with. That qualifies him enough to be President.

MagicianNamedGob:
A rich white trial lawyer who has been a tireless advocate for the poor and downtrodden, in courtrooms and in Congress, for the past 20 years. Jackass.

When you look at why insurance is so expensive you can thank John Edwards. I especially love John Edwards the global warming activist with a 30,000 square foot house

I never understood the ambulance chaser thing. Everybody biatches about lawyers until they need one. Should there be tort reform? Maybe. I don't pretend to know. But for all those people who think juries award too much money, let me ask: If you were healthy and someone came up to you right now and offered to give your child brain cancer, or to cut off both your arms or both legs in exchange for say $5 million, how many of you would take it?

I don't really see how punishing people heavily for failing to follow the law, when their failure does irreversible damage to people is bad. God forbid anything get in the way of commerce.


/actually had a judge tell me last month that if he enforced the law I was suing upon "the wheels of commerce would grind to a halt." nice to know your job is to grease the skids of commerce, asshole