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(AP) Interesting How a lawyer and state legislator with no name, family, or wealth connections went from the IL State House to drinking the milkshake of a universally known First Lady in only four years   (ap.google.com) divider line 137
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crypticsatellite [TotalFark] 2008-05-10 11:21:05 AM  
He made a deal with SATAN!!!!1!

 
robsul82 [TotalFark] 2008-05-10 11:23:10 AM  
It really is amazing. From a state house to trailblazing history as the first black presidential nominee ever, yet none of that FIRST BLACK PRESIDENT EVER!!!!!!11 shiat like you see out of Hillary Clinton with being a woman. Hell, just going from a state house to presidential nominee at all in only four years is incredibly impressive.

 
Party Boy [TotalFark] 2008-05-10 11:27:51 AM  
robsul82: It really is amazing. From a state house to trailblazing history as the first black presidential nominee ever, yet none of that FIRST BLACK PRESIDENT EVER!!!!!!11 shiat like you see out of Hillary Clinton with being a woman. Hell, just going from a state house to presidential nominee at all in only four years is incredibly impressive.

Vagina. She has it.

 
Lionel Mandrake [TotalFark] 2008-05-10 11:39:45 AM  
robsul82: yet none of that FIRST BLACK PRESIDENT EVER!!!!!!11 shiat like you see out of Hillary Clinton

Why do you hate Vagina-Americans?

 
jake_lex [TotalFark] 2008-05-10 11:47:48 AM  
robsul82: It really is amazing. From a state house to trailblazing history as the first black presidential nominee ever, yet none of that FIRST BLACK PRESIDENT EVER!!!!!!11 shiat like you see out of Hillary Clinton with being a woman. Hell, just going from a state house to presidential nominee at all in only four years is incredibly impressive.

Because it was never the centerpiece of his campaign the way it was with hers. Hillary Clinton wanted to deflect attention from the fact she is a total shill and whore for the corporate establish (I mean, for fark's sake, she sat on Wal-Mart's board of directors) by playing up the "OMG A WOMAN'S GONNA BE PRESIDENT!!!!!!111" angle, so that it would appear voting for her was a real change, and not just putting another pawn of the machine in there.

When it came up against another candidate whose Presidency would be just as historically unprescedented, it ran aground, and because she surrounded herself with a band of asskisses and lickspittles instead of people who are willing to tell her she's wrong, she never came up with anything new.

 
the eidolon 2008-05-10 11:50:20 AM  
How a lawyer and state legislator with no name, family, or wealth connections went from the IL State House to drinking the milkshake of a universally known First Lady in only four years:

OPRAH

 
burndtdan 2008-05-10 11:51:28 AM  
crypticsatellite: He made a deal with SATAN!!!!1!

img49.imageshack.us

 
Righteously Indignant [TotalFark] 2008-05-10 11:52:00 AM  
Lickspittle's a neat word. Lickspittle lickspittle lickspittle. If you say it enough times in a row it becomes lipskittle, and Skittles rule. Especially the red ones. But even those aren't as good as pink Starbursts. But all M&Ms taste the same no matter what the color. Vote libertarian.

 
Eddie_Dean_NY [TotalFark] 2008-05-10 11:58:23 AM  
They forgot the important role the Federation played in his rise to power:

img106.imageshack.us

Thanks, 7 of DDs.

 
burndtdan 2008-05-10 11:58:25 AM  
Righteously Indignant: Lickspittle's a neat word. Lickspittle lickspittle lickspittle. If you say it enough times in a row it becomes lipskittle, and Skittles rule. Especially the red ones. But even those aren't as good as pink Starbursts. But all M&Ms taste the same no matter what the color. Vote libertarian.

nocturnalremission.com
confused, yet strangely approves

 
Lionel Mandrake [TotalFark] 2008-05-10 11:59:15 AM  
Righteously Indignant: Lickspittle's a neat word. Lickspittle lickspittle lickspittle. If you say it enough times in a row it becomes lipskittle, and Skittles rule. Especially the red ones. But even those aren't as good as pink Starbursts. But all M&Ms taste the same no matter what the color. Vote libertarian.

i159.photobucket.com

Have some candy...take two

 
Righteously Indignant [TotalFark] 2008-05-10 11:59:23 AM  
Ooooh, she's my girlcrush.

 
CarolynLibrarian 2008-05-10 12:02:17 PM  
The amazement was on their faces. Hundreds waited for Barack Obama on that evening in South Carolina, 15 weeks ago, to claim victory - a surprising victory, surprisingly large.

And amazing it was.


Thank you Yoda.

He had such a meteoric rise because:

Multiple img1.fark.net winner and Illinois senator Jack Ryan tried to get his Uber-famous wife to fark publicly, and the divorce papers telling the entire sordid tale were released (over HER objections) because the Chicago media demanded it. I don't think Obama had anything to do with it - it's too juicy a story for the Chicago people to need prodding on it - but he certainly was glad to take advantage of it to get into the Senate.

Hillary Clinton ran. If a woman, then why not a black man? He capitalized on the wedge Clinton drove into the conventional wisdom of an "electable candidate."

Lots and lots of people can't stand Hillary Clinton personally. It's not a gender thing, it's her. Her arrogance, sniping, and occasional ranting haven't helped that.

He hasn't had enough time in the machine to think like the rest of the machine, and his strategists are better than her strategists.

He's smooth. He has a style people like and a composure they haven't seen from a politician for a while.

And, of course, he speaks well - like a preacher. He's inspiring. Your average voter doesn't think too much, they vote for the person they like. Obama's speeches evoke an emotional response - most people vote with their emotions.

Personally, I'm voting for him because he's far preferable to the others who ran - he can be diplomatic, he doesn't have his head up his ass on foreign policy, he knows how to pick experts for results, he wants to get the fark out of Iraq, he still seems to have ideals, but also the maturity to know how to handle the process as well, and I really believe that he thinks he's the best person for the job (as opposed to Hillary, who thinks "it's her turn").

 
HulkHands [TotalFark] 2008-05-10 12:07:32 PM  
img.photobucket.com

 
DamnYankees [TotalFark] 2008-05-10 12:09:41 PM  
Can someone post that "I have a vagina" spoof of the MLK speech?

 
quickdraw [TotalFark] 2008-05-10 12:10:43 PM  
Party Boy: Vagina. She has it.

jake_lex: she surrounded herself with a band of asskisses and lickspittles

Well to be fair vagina's do like asskisses and lick spittles for a damn good reason.

 
Whamdangler 2008-05-10 12:15:49 PM  
I will take credit.

In 1999 I think it was, my dad met Dick Cheney while he was on the campaign trail for the Republican gubernatorial candidate for Wyoming governor. Cheney wasn't well known, and was staning off by himself, and my dad went over and talked to him for a few minutes. A year and a half later, Cheney was elected VP.

In Novermber 2006, I heard that Barak Obama would be in Denver signing his book. I worked two blocks from the bookstore so I walked over. I knew from past experience that famous people enter the bookstore from the alley, so I went around to the back door. A few minutes later an SUV drove up and Obama gets out. Denver Mayor Hickenlooper came out the back of the store and greeted him. Obama looked over at me and I shook his hand and said a few things to him about how we needed him to run for president. He asked how I thought of a Obama/Hickenlooper ticket. We all chuckled. Two years later, Obama was elected president.

 
cerote [TotalFark] 2008-05-10 12:36:35 PM  
Eddie_Dean_NY: They forgot the important role the Federation played in his rise to power:



Thanks, 7 of DDs.


Even though I support Obama, this is a very important point you make. He had that Senate race handed to him when Ryan dropped out.

 
KaponoFor3 [recently expired TotalFark] 2008-05-10 12:44:03 PM  
robsul82: It really is amazing.

Don't we have such an awesome country where someone like Obama can come so close to capturing the most powerful job in the world despite having "no name, family, or wealth connections"? It just goes to show that anyone can do anything regardless of their circumstances if they put their mind to it.

For the record, I told my fiancee after hearing Obama open up the Democratic National Convention (I believe he opened) in 2004 that this man would be our president some day. He was just too good not to be. And though I probably won't be voting for him due to policy differences, I still think the man is extremely impressive

 
mediaho 2008-05-10 12:48:03 PM  
One is a true leader - the kind that only comes around once in a generation and the other is what Samuel Adams called "vain & aspiring."

 
HulkHands [TotalFark] 2008-05-10 12:50:47 PM  
When I watched his 2004 speech, I thought aloud: "That guy is going to run for President... in 2012 or 16."

 
DamnYankees [TotalFark] 2008-05-10 12:54:24 PM  
KaponoFor3: For the record, I told my fiancee after hearing Obama open up the Democratic National Convention (I believe he opened) in 2004 that this man would be our president some day. He was just too good not to be. And though I probably won't be voting for him due to policy differences, I still think the man is extremely impressive

HulkHands: When I watched his 2004 speech, I thought aloud: "That guy is going to run for President... in 2012 or 16."

In 2004 I voted for Bush and even worked to elect him.(Shameful, I know, but at least Kerry still won my state.) I was watching the 2004 Dem Convention with derision, and then Obama came up and spoke. I'd never heard of the guy before and thought it was weird they would give such an important speech to a guy I'd never heard of. Well, while he spoke I had two thoughts:

1) Holy shiat this guy is good - he'll run for president someday.
2) I might vote for him.

I actually thought I would vote for Obama while I was working to elect Bush. That's how impressive he was. And now he has basically turned me into a Democrat. For the Dems to reject this guy would be insane.

 
burndtdan 2008-05-10 12:55:17 PM  
quickdraw: Party Boy: Vagina. She has it.

jake_lex: she surrounded herself with a band of asskisses and lickspittles

Well to be fair vagina's do like asskisses and lick spittles for a damn good reason.


asskisses?

images.stltoday.com

you never go ass to mouth

 
KaponoFor3 [recently expired TotalFark] 2008-05-10 12:57:34 PM  
DamnYankees: And now he has basically turned me into a Democrat.

Don't identify yourself with a party so much -- especially one that you actively campaigned against 4 years earlier. Their policy platform hasn't really changed in those 4 years, it's just that they have a guy at the top who is WAY better at giving speeches.

 
DamnYankees [TotalFark] 2008-05-10 01:01:58 PM  
KaponoFor3: Don't identify yourself with a party so much -- especially one that you actively campaigned against 4 years earlier. Their policy platform hasn't really changed in those 4 years, it's just that they have a guy at the top who is WAY better at giving speeches.

Well, I've substantially changed my policy beliefs. In these four years I've changed a lot, and Obama has probably just capitalized on that really well.

 
burndtdan 2008-05-10 01:03:31 PM  
KaponoFor3: DamnYankees: And now he has basically turned me into a Democrat.

Don't identify yourself with a party so much -- especially one that you actively campaigned against 4 years earlier. Their policy platform hasn't really changed in those 4 years, it's just that they have a guy at the top who is WAY better at giving speeches.


there are a lot of people who choose their party affiliation without any knowledge of the actual platforms of either party. my sister is a republican for the same reason she's a baptist - because my parents are. and even my parents think that democrats are all socialists and republicans are all about fiscal responsibility and protecting our rights against an encroaching federal government.

i think george bush, and the support he got from the party, opened a lot of eyes (for people still willing to open them anyways) that what they had been told all along were the principles of each party was wrong.

don't get me wrong, the democrats are also just a political party, and don't have the right stance on everything, but a lot of people are finally learning what they actually stand for, and finding out it's not as evil as they had thought.

 
robsul82 [TotalFark] 2008-05-10 01:31:59 PM  
KaponoFor3: robsul82: It really is amazing.

Don't we have such an awesome country where someone like Obama can come so close to capturing the most powerful job in the world despite having "no name, family, or wealth connections"? It just goes to show that anyone can do anything regardless of their circumstances if they put their mind to it.

For the record, I told my fiancee after hearing Obama open up the Democratic National Convention (I believe he opened) in 2004 that this man would be our president some day. He was just too good not to be. And though I probably won't be voting for him due to policy differences, I still think the man is extremely impressive


Well, it's like the guy in the article says - the story of Barack Obama is a quintessential American story.

"He says we can do better, and his life is the epitome of doing better."

And can we put to rest this idiocy about Obama winning his seat in the Senate because of Jeri Ryan? He was winning in the polls PRIOR to the divorce papers making Jack Ryan political Kryptonite. And it's not his fault the best the Illinois GOP could do was nominate a total moron in Ryan's place.

From the New York Times -

June 4, 2004, BEFORE the divorce allegations - "A Chicago Tribune poll released this week showed Mr. Obama with a huge lead, 52 percent to 30 percent, over his Republican rival, Jack Ryan" (new window)

So really, shut the fark up with the GOP talking point about Obama "owing his career" to Jeri Ryan, because it's not true and shows you don't do the research.

/and yeah, I thought Obama would make a run for the White House one day when I saw his 2004 DNC speech, but I never imagined it'd be 2008

 
robsul82 [TotalFark] 2008-05-10 01:34:41 PM  
cerote: Eddie_Dean_NY: They forgot the important role the Federation played in his rise to power:



Thanks, 7 of DDs.

Even though I support Obama, this is a very important point you make. He had that Senate race handed to him when Ryan dropped out.


Just because it grinds my gears to hear this bullshiat, here's the facts one more time -

"A Chicago Tribune poll released this week showed Mr. Obama with a huge lead, 52 percent to 30 percent, over his Republican rival, Jack Ryan." - NYT, 6/4/04

Divorce papers released 6/22/04.

 
KaponoFor3 [recently expired TotalFark] 2008-05-10 01:38:37 PM  
robsul82: So really, shut the fark up with the GOP talking point about Obama "owing his career" to Jeri Ryan, because it's not true and shows you don't do the research.

I'm assuming you are not leveling this charge at me regarding some GOP talking point or anything, as I have never mentioned anything of the like.

 
DarnoKonrad 2008-05-10 01:41:06 PM  
Hey Chuck Babington

I don't give a shiat what color he is.

 
robsul82 [TotalFark] 2008-05-10 01:41:57 PM  
KaponoFor3: robsul82: So really, shut the fark up with the GOP talking point about Obama "owing his career" to Jeri Ryan, because it's not true and shows you don't do the research.

I'm assuming you are not leveling this charge at me regarding some GOP talking point or anything, as I have never mentioned anything of the like.


No, that was more a tack-on at the Farkers who mentioned it, I just quoted yours because I wanted to respond to that before the "Jack Ryan was going to kick Obama's ass" bullshiat. Sorry if it came off as pointed at you. Should've made it more obvious that that was intended for everyone.

 
Eddie_Dean_NY [TotalFark] 2008-05-10 01:52:29 PM  
robsul82: Just because it grinds my gears to hear this bullshiat, here's the facts one more time -

Get your knickers out of a twist. I just look for an excuse to post pictures of hot women in political threads.

 
Aarontology [TotalFark] 2008-05-10 01:57:09 PM  
Eddie_Dean_NY: robsul82: Just because it grinds my gears to hear this bullshiat, here's the facts one more time -

Get your knickers out of a twist. I just look for an excuse to post pictures of hot women in political threads.


I really don't think you need an excuse for that.

 
Hastor 2008-05-10 01:57:54 PM  
Can we please stop using this milkshake nonsense in every other headline? It never was funny, it still isn't funny, and it desperately needs to die.

 
robsul82 [TotalFark] 2008-05-10 02:01:42 PM  
Eddie_Dean_NY: robsul82: Just because it grinds my gears to hear this bullshiat, here's the facts one more time -

Get your knickers out of a twist. I just look for an excuse to post pictures of hot women in political threads.


I myself go for Lebowski references - often, frequent, and early.

I mean, do you KNOW how often the Hillary campaign provides Achievers with the opportunity to say, "This is not 'Nam, this is bowling, there are rules."

 
QU!RK1019 2008-05-10 02:04:50 PM  
robsul82: Eddie_Dean_NY: robsul82: Just because it grinds my gears to hear this bullshiat, here's the facts one more time -

Get your knickers out of a twist. I just look for an excuse to post pictures of hot women in political threads.

I myself go for Lebowski references - often, frequent, and early.

I mean, do you KNOW how often the Hillary campaign provides Achievers with the opportunity to say, "This is not 'Nam, this is bowling, there are rules."


She's out of her element.

 
dervish16108 2008-05-10 02:06:44 PM  
Eddie_Dean_NY: They forgot the important role the Federation played in his rise to power:



Thanks, 7 of DDs.


400 years later, a game of trivia is played in a stuck turbolift of the USS Voyager ...

"Who was the first African American President of the USA?"

"Barack Obama"

*everyone looks at 7 of 9 with surprise*

"The Borg were present during those events. It's a long story"

 
robsul82 [TotalFark] 2008-05-10 02:10:47 PM  
QU!RK1019: robsul82: Eddie_Dean_NY: robsul82: Just because it grinds my gears to hear this bullshiat, here's the facts one more time -

Get your knickers out of a twist. I just look for an excuse to post pictures of hot women in political threads.

I myself go for Lebowski references - often, frequent, and early.

I mean, do you KNOW how often the Hillary campaign provides Achievers with the opportunity to say, "This is not 'Nam, this is bowling, there are rules."

She's out of her element.


That farking biatch...

 
CarolynLibrarian 2008-05-10 02:12:33 PM  
robsul82: cerote: Eddie_Dean_NY: They forgot the important role the Federation played in his rise to power:



Thanks, 7 of DDs.

Even though I support Obama, this is a very important point you make. He had that Senate race handed to him when Ryan dropped out.

Just because it grinds my gears to hear this bullshiat, here's the facts one more time -

"A Chicago Tribune poll released this week showed Mr. Obama with a huge lead, 52 percent to 30 percent, over his Republican rival, Jack Ryan." - NYT, 6/4/04

Divorce papers released 6/22/04.


True, but you could show Hillary with that same margin not too very long ago. The Obama margin in early June does not guarantee his election later. The Ryan divorce papers did.

 
Bill Frist 2008-05-10 02:13:16 PM  


DamnYankees [TotalFark] Quote 2008-05-10 12:09:41 PM
Can someone post that "I have a vagina" spoof of the MLK speech?


where is this? I can't find it?

 
chucknasty 2008-05-10 02:14:23 PM  
he has a very large straw?

 
DamnYankees [TotalFark] 2008-05-10 02:15:09 PM  
Bill Frist: DamnYankees [TotalFark] Quote 2008-05-10 12:09:41 PM
Can someone post that "I have a vagina" spoof of the MLK speech?

where is this? I can't find it?


I've seen it posted multiple times on Fark...

 
robsul82 [TotalFark] 2008-05-10 02:16:16 PM  
CarolynLibrarian: robsul82: cerote: Eddie_Dean_NY: They forgot the important role the Federation played in his rise to power:



Thanks, 7 of DDs.

Even though I support Obama, this is a very important point you make. He had that Senate race handed to him when Ryan dropped out.

Just because it grinds my gears to hear this bullshiat, here's the facts one more time -

"A Chicago Tribune poll released this week showed Mr. Obama with a huge lead, 52 percent to 30 percent, over his Republican rival, Jack Ryan." - NYT, 6/4/04

Divorce papers released 6/22/04.

True, but you could show Hillary with that same margin not too very long ago. The Obama margin in early June does not guarantee his election later. The Ryan divorce papers did.


So Obama gets no credit for kicking his ass at the time and gets blamed for not beating Ryan for shiat out of his control? That's farked up.

The point is that this ridiculous meme has passed around the Internet and it's not supported by the facts. More than once I've heard or read this urban legend about how Ryan was way up in the polls, the divorce thing happened, then the GOP threw their hands up and nominated Keyes, and that's not the case. Just wanted to correct it.

 
robsul82 [TotalFark] 2008-05-10 02:16:57 PM  
DamnYankees: Bill Frist: DamnYankees [TotalFark] Quote 2008-05-10 12:09:41 PM
Can someone post that "I have a vagina" spoof of the MLK speech?

where is this? I can't find it?

I've seen it posted multiple times on Fark...


I know I got a greenlight out of using the phrase "I Have a Vagina" in a headline. Maybe that was what I linked to.

 
Opiate of the Lasses 2008-05-10 02:17:05 PM  

or:

How Democrats Finally Woke Up and Realized What Dishonest, Pandering, Arrogant, Power-Hungry Pieces of shiat Hillary and Bill Clinton Were.

 
robsul82 [TotalFark] 2008-05-10 02:18:31 PM  
Nope, just used "Obama campaign - Change We Can Believe In, Clinton campaign - I Have a Vagina" linking to an article about all the Clinton women sucking up to PA female voters.

 
barneyfifesbullet 2008-05-10 02:20:35 PM  
Obama is going to get stomped in November.

Unless someone has pictures of McCain naked doing something weird, and even then it would just make it a closer race. McCain would still win.

 
robsul82 [TotalFark] 2008-05-10 02:22:27 PM  
barneyfifesbullet: Obama is going to get stomped in November.

Unless someone has pictures of McCain naked doing something weird, and even then it would just make it a closer race. McCain would still win.


You need to take a trip on the Reading Rainbow.

May I suggest "Letting Go of Your Losing Presidential Contender," by S.T.F. Up?

 
Relatively Obscure [TotalFark] 2008-05-10 02:22:50 PM  
FTFA: "There are moments in life when you can pick the time," Durbin said he told Obama. "But when it comes to running for president, the time can pick you.

images.wikia.com

Approves

 
QU!RK1019 2008-05-10 02:23:09 PM  
barneyfifesbullet: Obama is going to get stomped in November.

Unless someone has pictures of McCain naked doing something weird, and even then it would just make it a closer race. McCain would still win.


Oh man are you in for a disappointing November.

 
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