I'm sure all the Fark "conservatives" who were so concerned about the Rezko deal will be equally concered with this one.

Really, I'm sure.

So... any of you folks having voter's remorse yet?

McCain has gotten away with a lot of shiat over the last few years. Mostly because he was the closest thing to a Democrat in the Republican party so the media laid off of him. But once the Democrat nomination is finalized at the national campaign starts, expect the media to start reporting on all these things they've ignored the last 10-15 years.

McCain is just as corrupt as any politician, he just hasn't been called on it yet.

ShawnDoc: McCain is just as corrupt as any politician, he just hasn't been called on it yet.



"as" corrupt?

Is this the same thing the New York Times tried to run a few weeks ago?

/I don't read Kos or Malkin

muck4doo: /I don't read Kos or Malkin

Neither do I, but I do click on links they provide. Then I can read the story and form my own opinion.

So he doesn't go all namby-pamby liberal and prevent the free market from using our god-given resources most efficiently. You think this will piss off people? Conservatives will love him for it.

McCain's people have to be hoping and praying that Hillary doesn't drop out soon; they really don't want a bored press deciding to take a close look at him.

Remember folks, Obama is the anti-christ/muslim/terrorist/nazi/black guy who's running for president.

I'll vote for McCain. I think things should just stay the same which is good for me. Americans are bitter as they cling to hope and change. Americans need to fact reality with a gaint anvil.

I just don't get it. How did this guy get to be the republican presumptive nominee?

ShawnDoc: McCain is just as corrupt as any politician, he just hasn't been called on it yet.

I am not a fan of the current state of the Republican party. But the key to this statement is 'any politician'. I have no illusions that the Democrats wouldn't do something similar.

Steve Zodiac: I am not a fan of the current state of the Republican party. But the key to this statement is 'any politician'. I have no illusions that the Democrats wouldn't do something similar.

Well, you're blind. Corruption exists on both sides, and some local democratic machines are INCREDIBLY corrupt. But on a federal level the Republicans are the masters of corruption and McCain has sold his soul to the GOP for the nom.

Party Boy: I just don't get it. How did this guy get to be the republican presumptive nominee?

THIS:

Lets just say he went to Miss Vera's Finishing School.

Two Cats One Bowl: "Keating Five" McCain is Corrupt? Really?

I keep hearing this but it's from before my time. Little help?

Also, when do the democratic leaning people in the MSM start throwing around the term flip-flopper? It's like the nail in his coffin right there. McCain fell for the swiftboating long before Kerry, so this will be sort of ironic. Or cathartic maybe? I really did like him in 2000, but I wasn't old enough to vote until this year and by then he'd been replaced with (insert science fiction clone-thing of your choice here).

For those who don't understand how McCain became the nominee, look at who is competition was. That said I think a lot of his appeal revolves around his personality, or at least the perception of it. From what I've seen, even I like McCain, he doesn't come across as a creep, a shill, or a nitwit. His scandals, except for maybe the temper issue, fall to the wayside because they look more like the corruption/shady dealings of his underlings than anything else. McCain, whether it's true or not, seems like the kind of guy that when he finds out about something like this, would fire somebody, or at least want somebody fired.

And that's exactly what terrifies me now. If the last eight years have one glaring lesson for the electorate, it should be that we elect an administration, not the man. Nixon was toppled after he was no longer able to distance himself from his administration, Bush just flatly ignores any scandals/incompetence while claiming himself 'the decider'. McCain strikes me as much the same, he might pay more lip service to such things, but ultimately nothing will stick because it will be seen as the actions of misguided underlings that he didn't even know existed.

ProdigalSigh: McCain, whether it's true or not, seems like the kind of guy that when he finds out about something like this, would fire somebody, or at least want somebody fired.

It's not true.

It's marketing.

Falcc

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keating_Five

GoRedSoxGo: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keating_Five

Aw man, if I wanted to look things up I'd have done it. Damn people not letting me be lazy. *grumble, murmer* This sounds like pretty basic corrupt politician stuff really. Not that it's excused but it's like.. wow.. If people were still that worked up over things now we'd be down a lot more crappy politicians, that's for sure.

Falcc: Aw man, if I wanted to look things up I'd have done it. Damn people not letting me be lazy. *grumble, murmer* This sounds like pretty basic corrupt politician stuff really. Not that it's excused but it's like.. wow.. If people were still that worked up over things now we'd be down a lot more crappy politicians, that's for sure.

I guess that's the thing about it. Even when the scandal happened a lot of people didn't understand it.

Sadly, the S&L crisis and McCain's corruption in the matter will not hurt him. He's gotten re-elected to his office since the affairs became public. And the S&L Crisis pales in comparison to stuff like the current sub-prime lending crisis. So he's probably off the hook with mainstream voters (ie people who don't research issues), but it may cause him trouble with older voters with good memories.

Now that everyone knows Obama's going to win, maybe the media will finally stop allowing themselves to be led around by the nose by the right-wing propaganda machine and start, you know, covering McCain's various and sundry MAJOR character, credibility, and corruption problems.

Yeah, and I'm a Chinese jet pilot...

I must admit that McCain does have a major hurdle to jump, his record. Having one means that he has done something, something he can be held accountable for. The shadiness of anything done in DC can be easily labled and identified by the right operatives.

obama has a clear advantage here. Since he has not passed any major legislation either here or back in Illinois he can't be held accountable for his record.

*yawn*

lol... a landswapping deal. This has been done for decades here in Arizona, on both sides of the isle. It's almost expected these days.

MyRandomName: lol... a landswapping deal. This has been done for decades here in Arizona, on both sides of the isle.

Arizona is an island now? That's a hell of a landswap.

MyRandomName: lol... a landswapping deal. This has been done for decades here in Arizona, on both sides of the isle.



You should see what we swap on this side of the isle.

MyRandomName: lol... a landswapping deal. This has been done for decades here in Arizona, on both sides of the isle. It's almost expected these days.

So, Obama comes up in Chicago politics remaining pretty dang clean, but he has met some shady people, and that's unacceptable. McCain engages in corruption, but it's a common corruption to his reason, and that's okay? Republicans who criticized Obama about knowing Rezko but defend McCain for this would, in a just world, suffer head asplosion due to paradox.

Funk Brothers: Remember folks, Obama is the anti-christ/muslim/terrorist/nazi/black guy who's running for president.

I'll vote for McCain. I think things should just stay the same which is good for me. Americans are bitter as they cling to hope and change. Americans need to fact reality with a gaint anvil.

Welcome to Ignoreland, you troll.

Politicians do favor for people that give them money to get elected.
NEWS AT 11!!!

Clintons have rolled with organized crime.
Bush/McCain got corporate criminals running out their ass.
Obama is always seen with Ted Kennedy.

What? Not news indeed.

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Funk Brothers: Remember folks, Obama is the anti-christ/muslim/terrorist/nazi/black guy who's running for president.

I'll vote for McCain. I think things should just stay the same which is good for me. Americans are bitter as they cling to hope and change. Americans need to fact reality with a gaint anvil.

Welcome to Ignoreland, you troll.

I don't think he deserves ignore, he was just being sarcastic, I think. A real right wing wacko would have called the Senator "BHO" or "Obamassiah" or "inexperienced golden boy" or something equally childish. People who listen to Hannity or Rush and their ilk are by nature intellectually lazy, and will resort to name calling and ad-homimem attacks when they run out of talking points. Every farking time.

/intellectual laziness is not exclusive to conservatives, as many farkers have proven time and time again

paper_champion: I don't think he deserves ignore, he was just being sarcastic, I think. A real right wing wacko would have called the Senator "BHO" or "Obamassiah" or "inexperienced golden boy" or something equally childish. People who listen to Hannity or Rush and their ilk are by nature intellectually lazy, and will resort to name calling and ad-homimem attacks when they run out of talking points. Every farking time.

/intellectual laziness is not exclusive to conservatives, as many farkers have proven time and time again

Either that, or they post "*yawn*" in every thread they don't want to believe...see USP .45 for example.

Party Boy: I just don't get it. How did this guy get to be the republican presumptive nominee?

Seriously? Weren't you watching? Believe it or not, he's the best the Republicans can offer. Really.

Hey, uh...anytime you want to start COVERING this stuff would be great, liberal media.

Annnnnytime.

Go ahead.

Anytime now...

*whistles*

Notabunny: Believe it or not, he's the best the Republicans can offer. Really.

Considering how many of them jumped ship, resigned, were forced out, or blacklisted for not towing the party line, it doesn't surprise me that the Republican party didn't have much to offer for this election cycle.

RemyDuron: Well, you're blind. Corruption exists on both sides, and some local democratic machines are INCREDIBLY corrupt. But on a federal level the Republicans are the masters of corruption and McCain has sold his soul to the GOP for the nom.

And you're stupid. I was saying that a Democrat would probably do the same thing if he thought he could get away with it.

/English, can you read it?

As president he'll be able to REALLY give our tax money away.

/4 more years of oil wars and domestic oppression on the way!

Steve Zodiac: I was saying that a Democrat would probably do the same thing if he thought he could get away with it.

Probably is much different then DID.

/Reality, can you accept it?