Hooray caste system!

Wait, what? somebody on Fox News told the truth?
OMG. Flash tag needed.

mediaho: Hooray caste system!

It's not a caste system because you can move up and down in classes depending on what you do in life.

Well, I think you can safely say Fred Barnes thinks watching WWE is beneath him.

Ron Paul Revere: Obviously we should all be equal and have nothing to strive for. *rolleyes*

Do what now?

"Working class" means blue collar. "Lower class" implies a lack of manners and etiquette or that they are lesser people than their betters.

Ron Paul Revere: In some definitions, yes. However, to college educated, high income progressives, it's come to mean a class lower than them that needs their helping hand.

No it doesn't. What are you basing that on?

I define lower class as anybody who isn't me.

Lower class.

Working class = proles. The lower classes are beneath proles in the class hierarchy.

Ron Paul Revere: What are you basing that on?

Fark Politics tab comments.

Uh... okay, then. I'm going to talk to someone else now.

Ron Paul Revere: Fark Politics tab comments.

Bear in mind that the Fark Politics tab doesn't even remotely begin to represent anything even vaguely resembling the actual real-world cross section of opinions. Otherwise Ron Paul would be in line to become our 28th Libertarian president.

The Fark Politics tab is, however, an excellent cross section of "edgy free-thinking" Internet misanthropes.

Ron Paul Revere: Fark Politics tab comments. There's a certain leftist demographic that doesn't just pity those that are blue collar. They look down their nose at them and love themselves for how wonderful they are for helping them with their ideology. They bask in their own magnificence.

You pity blue collar people? Are you sure you're not the one looking down your nose?

Oops, I read that as "just doesn't pity" instead of "doesn't just pity".

mediaho: Ron Paul Revere: In some definitions, yes. However, to college educated, high income progressives, it's come to mean a class lower than them that needs their helping hand.

No it doesn't. What are you basing that on?

His own repressed feelings of self-worthlessness.

Ron Paul Revere: mediaho: No it doesn't. What are you basing that on?

Fark Politics tab comments. There's a certain leftist demographic that doesn't just pity those that are blue collar. They look down their nose at them and love themselves for how wonderful they are for helping them with their ideology. They bask in their own magnificence.

your a moran

mediaho: "Working class" means blue collar. "Lower class" implies a lack of manners and etiquette or that they are lesser people than their betters.

Then why are there phrases such as "upper class" and "middle class"? Wouldn't the next logical class be "lower class" rather than "working class"?

Then why are there phrases such as "upper class" and "middle class"? Wouldn't the next logical class be "lower class" rather than "working class"?


All of this semantics rather misses the point. Since we're talking about America here one hundred percent of the population is working class. The top two classes are empty because their members still live in Britain.

KaponoFor3: Then why are there phrases such as "upper class" and "middle class"? Wouldn't the next logical class be "lower class" rather than "working class"?

Jesus, this thread looks like it's going to be a veritable volcano of stupidity.

Oh, and just to be clear...

Working class:



Lower class:



No class:

What about the folks in the "lower class" who do not, in fact, work? It seems you really can't call them "working class."

sigdiamond2000: Jesus, this thread looks like it's going to be a veritable volcano of stupidity.

With some of the people in here, yes, yes it will be.

KaponoFor3: sigdiamond2000: Jesus, this thread looks like it's going to be a veritable volcano of stupidity.

With some of the people in here, yes, yes it will be.

With some of the people in here, it's the Krakatoa of stupidity. People on the other side of the planet are going to feel the rumbling of stupidity spewing forth.

KaponoFor3: Then why are there phrases such as "upper class" and "middle class"? Wouldn't the next logical class be "lower class" rather than "working class"?

Maybe because those phrases are used by those who consider themselves to be "upper class." (Kinda like how the caste system was more than likely not developed by dark-skinned Indians.) 99% of the time middle class and working class are synonymous. Only people who consider themselves to be the upper class calls anyone "lower class."

Ron Paul Revere, right. That was a joke that you took some time to explain your rationale behind the "joke." Right. Gotcha.

Nabb1: What about the folks in the "lower class" who do not, in fact, work? It seems you really can't call them "working class."

If you insist on using a class system, they are the unemployed class.

Not necessarily...there are plenty of upper class people who are low class...like Paris Hilton.

Well, it's not as if they say that they are bitter and cling to their god and guns.

mediaho: Nabb1: What about the folks in the "lower class" who do not, in fact, work? It seems you really can't call them "working class."

If you insist on using a class system, they are the unemployed class.

Oh, there you go bringing class into it again.

Hey Fat Albert...you're like school on Saturday!!

Nabb1: Oh, there you go bringing class into it again.

Well, that's what it's all about! If only people would...

The working class is composed of people who work, usually at non-managerial blue collar jobs. The middle class is just like them, except their collars are usually white, they make slightly more money and think they make much more.

The lower class is composed of people who don't work, or at least not very much. Such income as they derive comes from mainly either the government, from charity, or from crime.

Ron Paul Revere: Father Jack Hacket: your a moran

Learn proper grammar before insulting others.



That was a goddamn joke. Talk about dense.

Y-y-y-you mean my personal prejudices aren't based in fact? Oh woe is me!

Ron Paul Revere: Learn proper grammar before insulting others

simply delicious.

Learn proper grammar before insulting others

1) It's a joke.
2) You don't mean grammar you mean spelling.

Tigger: Learn proper grammar before insulting others

1) It's a joke.
2) You don't mean grammar you mean spelling.

Shh... He's on a roll.

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Lorelle: Not necessarily...there are plenty of upper class people who are low class...like Paris Hilton.

That is kind of the point behind the argument. There is economic class, then there is social class.

The term "new money" is often used to describe people with a higher economic class than they are with regards to their social class. The running joke is "you can take the boy out of the ghetto, but you can never take the ghetto out of the boy".

I have always come to define working class as upper-lower and lower-middle economic class people, usually living from paycheck to paycheck. Some of them are trash hicks, some of them are proper and educated, others are somewhere in between.

Paris Hilton is, in my opinion, a white trash fluzie who would blend in perfect in some shiathole in Alabama. Her grandfather may have left her a lot of money, but they sure as heck did not give her manners, respect or class.

As for the comment in the segment, I think somebody was making a stereotype that all working class people are low [social] class. I think that's wrong. I bet that a large percentage are, but whether to if it is a majority or not, I cannot say.

I think the most salient observation about class was posited by my Irish barber who said, "Work is the curse of the drinking class."

Wise man, my barber.

It's grammar because it's the improper use of a properly spelled word.

moran is a word - just used incorrectly in this context? you're outdoing yourself.

For the record, the proper cliche' is: your a idiot

Ron Paul Revere: Tigger: moran is a word - just used incorrectly in this context? you're outdoing yourself.

No, the text I quoted said "your a moran."

The proper wording would've been "you're a moran," as you're is a contraction of "you are," whereas "your" is a possessive.



dont stop evar!

What in blue hell is this mess?

Nabb1: I think the most salient observation about class was posited by my Irish barber who said, "Work is the curse of the drinking class."

Wise man, my barber.

Your barber is Oscar Wilde?

cousin-merle: Nabb1: I think the most salient observation about class was posited by my Irish barber who said, "Work is the curse of the drinking class."

Wise man, my barber.

Your barber is Oscar Wilde?

Yes, in fact, he is. Who knew Oscar was Irish?

/I thought that sounded familiar when he said it, but we were drinking Irish whiskey.

Nabb1: I think the most salient observation about class was posited by my Irish barber who said, "Work is the curse of the drinking class."

I wish I'd said that.

mediaho: For the record, the proper cliche' is: your a idiot

Two great cliches, together at last!

mediaho: For the record, the proper cliche' is: your a idiot

Of course it is, it doesn't take some sort of genious to figure that out.

Dinjiin: Lorelle: Not necessarily...there are plenty of upper class people who are low class...like Paris Hilton.

That is kind of the point behind the argument. There is economic class, then there is social class.

The term "new money" is often used to describe people with a higher economic class than they are with regards to their social class. The running joke is "you can take the boy out of the ghetto, but you can never take the ghetto out of the boy".

I have always come to define working class as upper-lower and lower-middle economic class people, usually living from paycheck to paycheck. Some of them are trash hicks, some of them are proper and educated, others are somewhere in between.

Paris Hilton is, in my opinion, a white trash fluzie who would blend in perfect in some shiathole in Alabama. Her grandfather may have left her a lot of money, but they sure as heck did not give her manners, respect or class.

As for the comment in the segment, I think somebody was making a stereotype that all working class people are low [social] class. I think that's wrong. I bet that a large percentage are, but whether to if it is a majority or not, I cannot say.

This post is far too close to being on topic and should be disregarded.