tag on a coffee break?

I'm taking a class next month.

Guess I won't be getting my license until the end of the summer :)

Gun paranoia is so lame.

Unless you live in a really bad area or are in law enforcement, you're basically a paranoid pussy if you think you need to carry a gun on you when you go out of the house.

Gosh, and go figure, Obama's the one that was a constitutional law professor and supports an individual, rather than militia, interpretation of the Second Amendment. But, heck, don't let that get in the way of your paranoia.

Nothing scarier than conservative white people with guns.

Bitter and jobless?

Co-workers and I are getting ours done in the next three weeks.

WOOHOOO!

Suck it!

Wow, that's some serious paranoia right there.

moops: Nothing scarier than conservative white people with guns.

yes there is, african children...

I thinking of getting an EBR in anticipation of a Dem sweep, so that in case of any adverse action by them I'd get grandfathered in. Therefore, I'm getting a kick out of this thread.

Obama's equivocation on the Second Amendment has been to think that cities and states have some right to regulation. Thus, the DC ban, possibly, not a national ban. The state of Texas is not going to take away your concealed handguns. Thus, Obama is not going to. Saying a state or locality can regulate does not imply that he's going to make the Feds.

/ Weren't you guys the ones who were all in favor of states' rights?

He said Sen. Barack Obama, who is leading the race for the nomination, is a "friend of (Democratic Senator) Ted Kennedy, and that scares everybody to death."

This statement speaks volumes about human stupidity.

Barack Hussein Obama is a Marxist hellbent on Islamification of America.

/ Don't Mess With Texas

You_mean_Im_gonna_stay_this_color: Unless you live in a really bad area or are in law enforcement, you're basically a paranoid pussy if you think you need to carry a gun on you when you go out of the house.

Or, maybe you just don't want to have to worry about whether you have your weapon and ammo separated and carried in the proper locations in your car when you go to the range.

Lawnchair: Obama's equivocation on the Second Amendment has been to think that cities and states have some right to regulation. Thus, the DC ban, possibly, not a national ban. The state of Texas is not going to take away your concealed handguns. Thus, Obama is not going to.

Ric Romero moment: often times, politicians don't employ the promises they make on the campaign trail.

FTFA: Though the exact cause may be unclear, what's certain is that the spike in applications has caught the Department of Public Safety unprepared.

Nice misleading headline, assmitter.

Here's a good source of information:

Barack Obama on Gun Control

The highlights:

Respect 2nd Amendment, but local gun bans ok. (Feb 2008)
Provide some common-sense enforcement on gun licensing. (Jan 2008)
Cosponsored bill to limit purchases to 1 gun per month. (2000)
Concealed carry OK for retired police officers. (Aug 2007)
Stop unscrupulous gun dealers dumping guns in cities. (Jul 2007)
Keep guns out of inner cities--but also problem of morality. (Oct 2006)
Ban semi-automatics, and more possession restrictions. (Jul 1998)
Voted NO on prohibiting lawsuits against gun manufacturers. (Jul 2005)

Smellvin: Ric Romero moment: often times, politicians don't employ the promises they make on the campaign trail.

so then maybe he is going to make it legal for everyone to buy any type of weaponry they want, that is where you are going with this, right?

Smellvin:
Ric Romero moment: often times, politicians don't employ the promises they make on the campaign trail.


This.

And I would like to add, while an Obama Presidency may not be the best reason to get a CCL, I'm hard pressed to think of a bad reason. I mean, "cuz I wanna", is a pretty good reason all on it's own, along with, "cuz I can", and "why not?".

You_mean_Im_gonna_stay_this_colorUnless you live in a really bad area or are in law enforcement, you're basically a paranoid pussy if you think you need to carry a gun on you when you go out of the house.

I don't live in a bad area (by local standards, at least), I have used a firearm in self-defense once (in my home) and one could have definitely come in handy once before that (away from home).

Depending on which numbers you believe, the average American has at least a 1 in 4 chance of being a victim of violent crime in their lifetime (back in the 80's some reports claimed 5 in 6, but violent crime has tanked since then). For some subsets, such as black urban male, the rate reaches 80-85%.

Yes, I carry, nearly 24/7 away from home. I carry a gun because a cop is too heavy.

Guns are for hunters and for people too unimaginative to improvise.

You_mean_Im_gonna_stay_this_color: Unless you live in a really bad area or are in law enforcement, you're basically a paranoid pussy if you think you need to carry a gun on you when you go out of the house.

You are basically a paranoid pussy if you think there is anything wrong with someone exercising a constitutional right.

Pro-tip: go read the second amendment.

Hey, just because Obama supports gun bans doesn't mean he supports gun bans. Don't be so paranoid.

I've had mine for years.

Need to update soon though.

Never voted Repub.

Voting for Obama.

Dat's sum good racism, paw paw.

guilt by association: Barack Hussein Obama is a Marxist hellbent on Islamification of America.

2/10

gungrabbing panic is the most pathetic of all contrived persecutions. all you have to do is buy something and you get to whine about how america is ending and everyone hates you.

veedeevadeevoodee: / Don't Mess With Texas

Jeeze, look at the size of the cannon that one guy has. I bet he'd be shot 5 times before he can even point it at anything.

Texas made me register my thumbs as a Concealed Weapon...
they also made me register my Ultravox and Falco records...
DAMN republiKKKans

Snarfangel: Here's a good source of information:

Barack Obama on Gun Control

The highlights:

Respect 2nd Amendment, but local gun bans ok. (Feb 2008)
Provide some common-sense enforcement on gun licensing. (Jan 2008)
Cosponsored bill to limit purchases to 1 gun per month. (2000)
Concealed carry OK for retired police officers. (Aug 2007)
Stop unscrupulous gun dealers dumping guns in cities. (Jul 2007)
Keep guns out of inner cities--but also problem of morality. (Oct 2006)
Ban semi-automatics, and more possession restrictions. (Jul 1998)
Voted NO on prohibiting lawsuits against gun manufacturers. (Jul 2005)


Proof that Obama is no friend of the Second Amendment.

Snarfangel: Respect 2nd Amendment, but local gun bans ok. (Feb 2008)

I think that's reasonable. While I don't think the DC gun ban is a good idea personally, I'll support DC in the same way I'll support Kennesaw, Georgia for their restrictive gun laws. I'd rather eat glass than live in either of those places anyway.

abb3w: Guns are for hunters and for people too unimaginative to improvise.

Okay there, Jason Bourne.

veedeevadeevoodee: / Don't Mess With Texas

Those guys are my heroes.

veedeevadeevoodee

Is the fat guy on the left a Mexican-American? That is very progressive; I'm glad to see our Nation's drunken posses have finally fallen into line with Affirmative Action

Well, I know as soon as Obama is elected, I planned to drive over to Texas to get me some beautiful Texas wite wimins.

Wonder how they found out Obama told us brothers that'd be ok.

The_Sponge: Snarfangel: Here's a good source of information:

Barack Obama on Gun Control

The highlights:

Respect 2nd Amendment, but local gun bans ok. (Feb 2008)
Provide some common-sense enforcement on gun licensing. (Jan 2008)
Cosponsored bill to limit purchases to 1 gun per month. (2000)
Concealed carry OK for retired police officers. (Aug 2007)
Stop unscrupulous gun dealers dumping guns in cities. (Jul 2007)
Keep guns out of inner cities--but also problem of morality. (Oct 2006)
Ban semi-automatics, and more possession restrictions. (Jul 1998)
Voted NO on prohibiting lawsuits against gun manufacturers. (Jul 2005)


Proof that Obama is no friend of the Second Amendment.

The first things the Commies do is disarm the society.

This is the kind of behavior one would expect from a place like Texas. Obvious tag is well placed submitter.

Nemo's Brother: The first things the Commies tyrants do is disarm the society.

FTFY

Nestea Plunge: For all the tough talk Texas makes, they sure do a shiatty job of keeping illegals out. Too busy fingering each other's assholes while listening to Toby Keith.

Now come on, everybody knows Garth Brooks makes the best asshole fingering music.

mediaho: Snarfangel: Respect 2nd Amendment, but local gun bans ok. (Feb 2008)

I think that's reasonable. While I don't think the DC gun ban is a good idea personally, I'll support DC in the same way I'll support Kennesaw, Georgia for their restrictive gun laws. I'd rather eat glass than live in either of those places anyway.


It's not reasonable for local governments to circumvent the Constitution. Besides, have strict gun control laws actually made things better in D.C. or South Central L.A.?

Nestea Plunge: For all the tough talk Texas makes, they sure do a shiatty job of keeping illegals out. Too busy fingering each other's assholes while listening to Toby Keith.

If the results are unexpected, recheck your assumptions.


Otherwise, good troll. Would troll again.

The_Sponge: It's not reasonable for local governments to circumvent the Constitution. Besides, have strict gun control laws actually made things better in D.C. or South Central L.A.?

Firstly, I said I don't agree with DC's gun ban but will respect it equally with local ordinances of mandatory ownership. Local governments aren't Congress, therefore, no 2nd Amendment violation.

Nestea Plunge : For all the tough talk Texas makes, they sure do a shiatty job of keeping illegals out.


good point.

GoldSpider: Nemo's Brother: The first things the Commies tyrants do is disarm the society.

FTFY

I thought the first thing commies/tyrants/Nazis/etc do is arm their followers, THEN disarm everyone else. Someone's a member of your party, you give them guns, then have them take other peoples' guns.

mediaho: The_Sponge: It's not reasonable for local governments to circumvent the Constitution. Besides, have strict gun control laws actually made things better in D.C. or South Central L.A.?

Firstly, I said I don't agree with DC's gun ban but will respect it equally with local ordinances of mandatory ownership. Local governments aren't Congress, therefore, no 2nd Amendment violation.

Read the 14th amendment.

All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.

Unless you want to argue that local governments are not under the purveyance of their individual states, the 2nd Amendment applies on all levels.

Nemo's Brother:The_Sponge: Proof that Obama is no friend of the Second Amendment.

The first things the Commies do is disarm the society.


Q: You said recently, "I have no intention of taking away folks' guns." But you support the D.C. handgun ban, and you've said that it's constitutional. How do you reconcile those two positions?

A: Because I think we have two conflicting traditions in this country. I think it's important for us to recognize that we've got a tradition of handgun ownership and gun ownership generally. And a lot of law-abiding citizens use it for hunting, for sportsmanship, and for protecting their families. We also have a violence on the streets that is the result of illegal handgun usage. And so I think there is nothing wrong with a community saying we are going to take those illegal handguns off the streets. And cracking down on the various loopholes that exist in terms of background checks for children, the mentally ill. We can have reasonable, thoughtful gun control measure that I think respect the Second Amendment and people's traditions.

\States rights anyone??
\\Where has he contradicted the 2nd amendment?

Nestea Plunge: Too busy fingering each other's assholes while listening to Toby Keith.

Or Gibby Haynes.

Link (new window)April 2, 2008: Rather than create a national registry, "I do think we have to do a better job sharing information between local and federal officials," Obama said yesterday. He differs with McCain and Clinton about whether people should be allowed to carry concealed guns. Clinton and McCain oppose outlawing it.

"I am not in favor of concealed weapons," Obama said. "I think that creates a potential atmosphere where more innocent people could (get shot during) altercations."

I think it's reasonable to be concerned that an Obama administration could push for a national CCW ban. He might not, and he probably couldn't make it happen, but stranger things have occurred.