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(nwi.com) Asinine Clinton's latest Indiana ad blames Bush for selling American defense jobs to China. Turns out it was a different president who made that decision   (thetimesonline.com) divider line 49
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panfried [TotalFark] 2008-05-04 11:48:10 AM  
Clinton'd
in
the
Boobies
!

 
angrymacface [TotalFark] 2008-05-04 12:12:58 PM  
panfried: Clinton'd
in
the
Boobies
!


You, sir, have made my day!

 
sweigardc 2008-05-04 12:20:39 PM  
so good

 
Weaver95 [TotalFark] 2008-05-04 12:25:18 PM  
Although Clinton has blamed President Bush's administration, critics have pointed out that the sale of Magnequench was approved in 1995 by former President Bill Clinton.


There's that pesky intertube again, telling the truth and making clinton look bad.

 
quickdraw [TotalFark] 2008-05-04 12:36:42 PM  
Maybe we have this all wrong. Maybe this whole spectacle is some weird sort of passive-aggressive battle between Hillary and Bill. She's actively destroying his legacy and he's doing all in his power to make sure she doesn't win.

 
Weaver95 [TotalFark] 2008-05-04 12:45:48 PM  
quickdraw: Maybe we have this all wrong. Maybe this whole spectacle is some weird sort of passive-aggressive battle between Hillary and Bill. She's actively destroying his legacy and he's doing all in his power to make sure she doesn't win.

that's a pretty expensive and public way to air your dirty laundry. But given the size of their egos, it's almost plausible.

 
hillbillypharmacist [TotalFark] 2008-05-04 12:46:29 PM  
quickdraw: Maybe this whole spectacle is some weird sort of passive-aggressive battle between Hillary and Bill. She's actively destroying his legacy and he's doing all in his power to make sure she doesn't win.

I'm sensing truth.

 
madmann [TotalFark] 2008-05-04 01:17:09 PM  
Weaver95: Although Clinton has blamed President Bush's administration, critics have pointed out that the sale of Magnequench was approved in 1995 by former President Bill Clinton.


There's that pesky intertube again, telling the truth and making clinton look bad.


The Intertubes have a well-known liberal human female Anti-Clinton bias.

 
Weaver95 [TotalFark] 2008-05-04 01:23:22 PM  
madmann: The Intertubes have a well-known Anti-Clinton bias.

It's almost like Hillary isn't even trying anymore...she gets bit by fact checking at LEAST once a week now. sometime even more frequently....and she just ignores it. That's mind boggling! Or psychotic, take your pick.

 
quickdraw [TotalFark] 2008-05-04 01:28:20 PM  
Weaver95: that's a pretty expensive and public way to air your dirty laundry

Yes - but think of the ratings! After Monica's unwashed dress all this other dirty laundry seems pretty tame anyways.

 
cousin-merle 2008-05-04 01:38:15 PM  
Weaver95: It's almost like Hillary isn't even trying anymore...she gets bit by fact checking at LEAST once a week now. sometime even more frequently....and she just ignores it. That's mind boggling! Or psychotic, take your pick.

Can't it be both?

Hillary: (04/16/08) We both have said things that, you know, turned out not to be accurate. You know, that happens when you're talking as much as we have talked. But you know, I'm very sorry that I said it. And I have said that, you know, it just didn't jibe with what I had written about and knew to be the truth.

 
clgrin 2008-05-04 01:50:12 PM  
Weaver95: madmann: The Intertubes have a well-known Anti-Clinton bias.

It's almost like Hillary isn't even trying anymore...she gets bit by fact checking at LEAST once a week now. sometime even more frequently....and she just ignores it. That's mind boggling! Or psychotic, take your pick.



the plain truth of it is... what's her base in it's most simplistic form?

Low information voters... people who will never, EVER look into to any of these claims and would need a month long media barrage to show them the difference. Once you have the stupid vote, it's really quite hard to lose.

In addition, we're getting close to a primary vote, which for Clinton and most old school politicians, is license to say the most blatant, bald-faced lies your mouth can utter to push you over the top for the election, then start apologizing and claiming you "misspoke" right after word. There is about a 2 day grace period, even in this day and age, for serious calling of massive bullshiat (if done at all) by the standard media. The Clintons are masters at using that period to their advantage

 
Shaggy_C 2008-05-04 01:51:14 PM  

Magnequench acquired the Valparaiso plant in 2000. It transferred operations to China in 2003, when it supplied about 80 percent of the rare-earth magnets used to supply U.S. "smart bombs." About 225 jobs were lost in the move.


So Clinton was to blame for a plant that wasn't even owned by the company until 5 years after he approved the sale and didn't outsource until he had been out of office for over 2 years. Hmm...

 
Lionel Mandrake [TotalFark] 2008-05-04 01:51:26 PM  
I hope Obama floods the teevees with ads pointing this out.

 
Makh [TotalFark] 2008-05-04 01:52:10 PM  
She's such a liar, Bill Clinton's pants must be on fire.

 
McStinky 2008-05-04 01:55:38 PM  
Just a blip on the liedar. Not enough to send out sorties for. Unless you lost your job to a company that relocated, of course.

 
MonkeyVegetables [TotalFark] 2008-05-04 01:55:58 PM  
Shaggy_C: Magnequench acquired the Valparaiso plant in 2000. It transferred operations to China in 2003, when it supplied about 80 percent of the rare-earth magnets used to supply U.S. "smart bombs." About 225 jobs were lost in the move.

So Clinton was to blame for a plant that wasn't even owned by the company until 5 years after he approved the sale and didn't outsource until he had been out of office for over 2 years. Hmm...


Although Clinton has blamed President Bush's administration, critics have pointed out that the sale of Magnequench was approved in 1995 by former President Bill Clinton.

 
RandomExcess 2008-05-04 01:56:09 PM  
Bush has been continuing this policy for over 7 years. He bears responsibility more than Hillary.


/Is Bush accountable for anything? Anyone... Anything?

 
MonkeyVegetables [TotalFark] 2008-05-04 01:58:01 PM  
RandomExcess: Bush has been continuing this policy for over 7 years. He bears responsibility more than Hillary.


/Is Bush accountable for anything? Anyone... Anything?


hahaha no one in this country is responsible or accountable for anything any more, it is always someone elses fault

 
Shaggy_C 2008-05-04 01:58:10 PM  
MonkeyVegetables: Although Clinton has blamed President Bush's administration, critics have pointed out that the sale of Magnequench was approved in 1995 by former President Bill Clinton.

The analysis doesn't take into consideration the contrasting landscape in 1995, when there were several other domestic producers of the rare-earth magnets. In 2003, that was no longer the case, which is why the deal should have been reviewed by the Bush administration.

/copypasta ftw

 
barneyfifesbullet 2008-05-04 01:59:38 PM  
wah wah wah Clinton
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wah wah wah Clinton

 
MonkeyVegetables [TotalFark] 2008-05-04 02:01:27 PM  
Shaggy_C: MonkeyVegetables: Although Clinton has blamed President Bush's administration, critics have pointed out that the sale of Magnequench was approved in 1995 by former President Bill Clinton.

The analysis doesn't take into consideration the contrasting landscape in 1995, when there were several other domestic producers of the rare-earth magnets. In 2003, that was no longer the case, which is why the deal should have been reviewed by the Bush administration.

/copypasta ftw


that is acceptable to me
so then can we agree the fault falls to both administrations

Hillary still shouldnt of used it in an ad

 
Rovian 2008-05-04 02:02:14 PM  
Thank you Bill Clinton for the Hope Income Tax Credit. You have always been about people power, and you are truly one of the greatest modern presidents.

 
MonkeyVegetables [TotalFark] 2008-05-04 02:03:52 PM  
Rovian: Thank you Bill Clinton for the Hope Income Tax Credit. You have always been about people power, and you are truly one of the greatest modern presidents.

if the modern era starts from JFKs presidency

 
TX-Law 2008-05-04 02:04:19 PM  
Lionel Mandrake: I hope Obama floods the teevees with ads pointing this out.

He most likely won't as he has that elusive "integrity" thing that Hillary can't seem to grasp. Pretty ridiculous that she can spout off fiction after fiction regarding, or at least touching on, serious political issues with relative impunity but Obama must remain mired in shiat that his nutjob former pastor spews and his poor bowling skills.

Makh: She's such a liar, Bill Clinton's pants must be on fire.

His pants are most likely on fire, but I think the reason is more Miley Cyrus than Hillary's constant stream of bullsh*t.

 
Atillathepun [TotalFark] 2008-05-04 02:05:56 PM  
Shaggy_C: Magnequench acquired the Valparaiso plant in 2000. It transferred operations to China in 2003, when it supplied about 80 percent of the rare-earth magnets used to supply U.S. "smart bombs." About 225 jobs were lost in the move.

So Clinton was to blame for a plant that wasn't even owned by the company until 5 years after he approved the sale and didn't outsource until he had been out of office for over 2 years. Hmm...


Because it wasn't the company sale that had to be approved, it was the TECHNOLOGY. Clinton approved the sale of the defense-sensitive technology in 1995, without which the company could not have been sold to China.

This does not mean that Bush bears no responsibility, but it is STILL hypocritical of Hillary to point fingers here.

 
Sweaty Jerry 2008-05-04 02:11:35 PM  
Weaver95:
It's almost like Hillary isn't even trying anymore...she gets bit by fact checking at LEAST once a week now. sometime even more frequently....and she just ignores it. That's mind boggling! Or psychotic, take your pick.


It's Bush-esque. Hell, it's Reaganesque, except for the fact that the media is kind of, sort of calling her out on it. At least with the gas tax thing they're having the decency to say something (at the end of the segment, usually) like "many economists question the efficacy of the proposals put forward by Clinton and McCain".

 
Lionel Mandrake [TotalFark] 2008-05-04 02:12:33 PM  
TX-Law: He most likely won't as he has that elusive "integrity" thing that Hillary can't seem to grasp.

He wouldn't directly attack her, I guess, but he could do an add highlighting the transfer of jobs from Indiana to foreign countries in which he gives a few examples, including, or highlighting, this company. It would remind people of BC's involvement and HC's lies about it without being perceived as a negative or direct attack add("hillary is a lying sack of shiat")

 
Seabon 2008-05-04 02:12:34 PM  
RandomExcess: Bush has been continuing this policy for over 7 years. He bears responsibility more than Hillary.


/Is Bush accountable for anything? Anyone... Anything?


We usually let the children off with a slap on the wrist.

 
Jyoti 2008-05-04 02:12:44 PM  
Well you know. Obama's younger than she is, prettier than she is, has impeccable oral skills, and now he's trying to usurp her husband's legacy - that which she sees as rightfully hers? No wonder, really, that she absolutely refuses to even contemplate the possibility of admitting defeat... It all goes back to Monica, I tell you!

 
quickdraw [TotalFark] 2008-05-04 02:15:20 PM  
Jyoti: Obama's younger than she is, prettier than she is, has impeccable oral skills,

Hawt!

 
clgrin 2008-05-04 02:15:23 PM  
Jyoti: Well you know. Obama's younger than she is, prettier than she is, has impeccable oral skills, and now he's trying to usurp her husband's legacy - that which she sees as rightfully hers? No wonder, really, that she absolutely refuses to even contemplate the possibility of admitting defeat... It all goes back to Monica, I tell you!

so what you're saying is that Obama should wear a blue dress with a white stain to the next debate... kinda throw her off her game

 
Sweaty Jerry 2008-05-04 02:17:14 PM  
Jyoti: Well you know. Obama's younger than she is, prettier than she is, has impeccable oral skills, and now he's trying to usurp her husband's legacy - that which she sees as rightfully hers? No wonder, really, that she absolutely refuses to even contemplate the possibility of admitting defeat... It all goes back to Monica, I tell you!

Lolz.

 
Weaver95 [TotalFark] 2008-05-04 02:18:29 PM  
clgrin: so what you're saying is that Obama should wear a blue dress with a white stain to the next debate... kinda throw her off her game

Hire a lewinsky look a like, put her in a blue dress and plant her front row center for the next debate. bonus points if she smokes cigars.

 
tatum 2008-05-04 02:28:49 PM  
You can't handle the truth!

/Have my big bowl of sugar-coated schadenfreud ready for munching.
//DIAF Hillary

 
TKPMM5 2008-05-04 02:55:27 PM  
B-b-but Bush!

/burn motherfarker burn

 
Skleenar 2008-05-04 03:00:28 PM  
Shaggy_C: The analysis doesn't take into consideration the contrasting landscape in 1995, when there were several other domestic producers of the rare-earth magnets. In 2003, that was no longer the case, which is why the deal should have been reviewed by the Bush administration.

/copypasta ftw


" The sales that Bill approved in 1995 and 2000 allowed for that 'contrasting landscapte' later. Magnequench disassembled the rare-earth magnet industry in the US over those years. It was proven to the Clinton administration that these companies involved with Magnequench were involved with damaging business practices. "

/copypasta backatcha

 
Wisdomsage 2008-05-04 03:05:54 PM  
YES!!! Stupid/Fail thread about HILLARY!!! WOOHOO!!!

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Not Bush?

 
Rovian 2008-05-04 03:32:39 PM  
MonkeyVeg


if the modern era starts from JFKs presidency

Quite probably.

 
Dufus [TotalFark] 2008-05-04 03:49:26 PM  
Jyoti: Well you know. Obama's younger than she is, prettier than she is, has impeccable oral skills, and now he's trying to usurp her husband's legacy - that which she sees as rightfully hers? No wonder, really, that she absolutely refuses to even contemplate the possibility of admitting defeat... It all goes back to Monica, I tell you!

While I think oratory skills may have been what you meant, the thought of Hillary facing a man with impeccable oral skills makes me a bit nauseous.

 
Rovian 2008-05-04 04:01:08 PM  
editorialcartoonists.com

 
randomjsa 2008-05-04 04:25:50 PM  
Hey, we tried to tell you 15+ years ago about Bill and Hillary, but you held the same opinion of them then that you hold of Obama now.

It's funny how liberals keep figuring out conservatives are right about 10-20 years after the fact.

 
Ikam 2008-05-04 05:14:57 PM  
My sister lives in Northwest Indiana, she called me on the phone the other day really annoyed by this.

 
bwesb 2008-05-04 05:45:38 PM  
Obama is only asking Americans to do what we have always done. Rise up and help one another out.

The link goes to some serious Obama video goodness.

 
Delawheredad 2008-05-04 06:39:26 PM  
As a Democrat who has always loathed the Clintons I'm really getting a kick out of this. Bill was a horrible president who the press fawned over. Now the media is ripping the Clintons a new one.

 
MrGMan 2008-05-04 07:21:44 PM  
RandomExcess: Bush has been continuing this policy for over 7 years. He bears responsibility more than Hillary.

I see, so the argument is that Bush failed to fix a mistake made by Clinton 13 years ago (1995), so the Clinton mistake is ignored in favor of the Bush mistake? Did I get that right?

By your logic, can we also call out Clinton for not fixing his mistake for over 5 years, or is that off-limits too?

Serious question: Are you Mark Penn???

 
lelio 2008-05-04 08:57:44 PM  
Schakowsky also said that Obama is more prepared to protect good-paying jobs in the country. The congresswoman said that because the federal gas tax goes into a transportation fund that generates jobs, Clinton's proposal for a temporary lift of the tax would cut about 300,000 jobs.

That's great thinking there moran Schakowsky. Why that money would just be sitting there in people's pockets not doing anything so let's take it!

Nah there can't be any unseen effects in taxing people.

 
alacy52 2008-05-04 11:51:09 PM  
A Clinton lied? INCONCEIVABLE!

 
soj4life 2008-05-05 07:36:44 AM  
again with this? wasn't it a week ago this same thing was posted? and btw bill let the company be sold, during bush's tenure the jobs were outsourced.

 
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