GOBAMA!

Obama won by seven votes and they each earned two delegates. Stand by for the Obama fan boys telling us how this seals the nomination.

Why wouldn't it? Those Floridians are too stupid/and or old to fill out a ballot properly.

This is a good thing

as it should be

What are you talking about, subby? Guam is part of the Coalition of Those Who Don't Count^TM

How the Fark do we even let Guam have deligates when they contribute no tax revenue?

That's because Guam didn't violate the party's rules by holding an early primary. Easy enough to understand, no?

Why not? We had to spank the shiat outta the Japanese Army for it.

Amusing? I do not think this word means what you think it means.

This seals it for Obama!!!

TFA:Clinton issued a statement Saturday night promising, "I will continue to champion the issues facing the people of Guam, and when I'm president I will ensure that hard-working families of Guam have the resources and the opportunity to succeed."


Hillary Clinton: no pander left unpandered.

BTW, what the hell is a Guam?

/ta, ta!

They get a primary, they'll get a Quarter next year, next thing you know, they'll want to vote in November.

MIguy: Obama won by seven votes and they each earned two delegates. Stand by for the Obama fan boys telling us how this seals the nomination.

Also achair and vice chair elected there. The vice chair has endorsed Obama, the chair is going with the popular vote, which means he's Obama as well.

Net result is that Obama gains 4 delegates from Guam, and 2 more than Hillary. Not much, but as we're seeing, every little bit helps.

nekom: That's because Guam didn't violate the party's rules by holding an early primary. Easy enough to understand, no?

That's ok, the Republicans will be happy to have those 25 electoral votes in what must now be a gimme state for them in the real election.

TeddyRooseveltsMustache: Why wouldn't it? Those Floridians are too stupid/and or old to fill out a ballot properly.

hey! i resemble resent that remark

I don't even know what to call them...Guambats, Guammi Bears?

Z1P2: How the Fark do we even let Guam have deligates when they contribute no tax revenue?

Because they should have a say in who their head of state is? Besides, they'd be a net recipient anyway. What they would pay goes to maintaining the island as is.

Z1P2: How the Fark do we even let Guam have deligates when they contribute no tax revenue?

You are incorrect, they pay federal taxes.

/Grew up there.
//Heard mom complain every April 15.

nekom: That's because Guam didn't violate the party's rules by holding an early primary. Easy enough to understand, no?

Really.

MIguy: Obama won by seven votes and they each earned two delegates. Stand by for the Obama fan boys telling us how this seals the nomination.

Hey, kraut7, you forgot your usual Ohio State sucks comments.

From the article:

Cynthia Estrada of Dededo said she was making up her mind while waiting to vote, but she was leaning toward Clinton.

"She's had the experience," she said. "She's got her husband to help her."


You've come a long way, baby.

... and who's fault is that subby? There's a Florida tag on this site for a reason.

To my Chamorran buddies, "Half a Day!"

The GOP needed Florida more than the DNC anyway.

Z1P2: How the Fark do we even let Guam have deligates when they contribute no tax revenue?

The Nomination process is handled entirely by each party. The Democrats and Republicans (and I believe some of the third parties as well) each have a national committee that sets rules like which groups get to vote (States, DC, Territories, etc) and how many delegates come from each group.

Then the States also have their own Committees which set the rules for how that State will conduct the selection of their delegates. I'm assuming that other groups that vote: DC, the Territories, American's Abroad, also have committees to sort this out, I'm not 100% sure.

In short: they get to vote because the National Committees said they do.

Z1P2: That's ok, the Republicans will be happy to have those 25 electoral votes in what must now be a gimme state for them in the real election.

I wouldn't be so sure about that. All these McCain vs Hillary and/or Obama polls are interesting, but the phrase `if the election were held today' is about the most useless one there is. It's already been one hell of a fascinating election cycle though, who the hell knows what could happen. Also, I beleive there are 27 electoral votes at stake in Florida.

i has an internet: What are you talking about, subby? Guam is part of the Coalition of Those Who Don't CountTM

Add me to the list of those that don't count.

/from Kansas

i has an internet: What are you talking about, subby? Guam is part of the Coalition of Those Who Don't CountTM

Well since they don't get to vote in the general, Clinton's usual "they won't go for a democrat in the real election anyways" will play a bit closer to reality, though it will remain just as irrelevent. I also suspect 8 mysterious deaths in Guam tomorow.

Why can't Hillary close the deal?

I bet the people of Guam are better at figuring out voting machines.

MIguy: Obama won by seven votes and they each earned two delegates. Stand by for the Obama fan boys telling us how this seals the nomination.

How does it not? Obama has more delegates, more states, and more popular votes. Anything that is not a total blowout for Clinton helps Obama seal the nomination.

Obama only won by seven votes. That's not a big enough margin so it's really a defeat. Especially since it was a caucus, where he should have won by a landslide. Clearly he needs to drop out for the good of the party.

Z1P2: How the Fark do we even let Guam have deligates when they contribute no tax revenue?

Because it's the law (that thing that some politicians believe they are above)...

From the Dept. of the Interior site--

Currently, Guam is an unincorporated, organized territory of the United States. It is "unincorporated" because not all provisions of the U.S. Constitution apply to the territory. Guam is an "organized" territory because the Congress provided the territory with an Organic Act in 1950 which organized the government much as a constitution would. The Guam Organic Act currently provides a republican form of government with locally-elected executive and legislative branches and an appointed judicial branch. Guam also has an elected representative to Congress -- The Honorable Madeleine Z. Bordallo (D).

ShawnDoc: How does it not? Obama has more delegates, more states, and more popular votes. Anything that is not a total blowout for Clinton helps Obama seal the nomination.

Unless he has an epic fail moment, the `pledged' delegate lead is going to be his no matter what happens. Unless the thing that should not be can convince enough superdelegates to jump ship, he's going to get the nomination. It's all basically in the hands of Democratic party operatives at this point, god help us all.

TheGreatGazoo: I bet the people of Guam are better at figuring out voting machines.

Maybe, but a Guam voting machine is a coconut and two straw baskets...(1 coconut per person, please!)

FTA (emphasis mine): Clinton issued a statement Saturday night promising, "I will continue to champion the issues facing the people of Guam, and when I'm president I will ensure that hard-working families of Guam have the resources and the opportunity to succeed."

Awfully presumptive of someone whose losing the primary to use "when" instead of "if". Does she know something we don't?

MIguy: Obama won by seven votes and they each earned two delegates. Stand by for the Obama fan boys telling us how this seals the nomination.

He sealed the nomination a while ago.

Gosling: MIguy: Obama won by seven votes and they each earned two delegates. Stand by for the Obama fan boys telling us how this seals the nomination.

Also achair and vice chair elected there. The vice chair has endorsed Obama, the chair is going with the popular vote, which means he's Obama as well.

Net result is that Obama gains 4 delegates from Guam, and 2 more than Hillary. Not much, but as we're seeing, every little bit helps.

2 is nearly 1/4 of what she gained on him from the Pennsylvania primaries. One of the reasons these small contests matter is because Clinton's margins of victory in the "big states" don't amount to much in terms of delegates, and so Obama has been able to overtake her with the smaller contests.

TeddyRooseveltsMustache: Why wouldn't it? Those Floridians are too stupid/and or old to fill out a ballot properly.

pat buchanan!

/oh shiat, i meant to respond to you, but i hit the wrong buttons.

Bestbank Tiger: Obama only won by seven votes. That's not a big enough margin so it's really a defeat. Especially since it was a caucus, where he should have won by a landslide. Clearly he needs to drop out for the good of the party.

Nice!

Ohhhh.....the fans have spoken.....

nekom: epic fail moment

Howard Dean was on some damn show saying they would sit Michigan and Florida at convention. They will be subject to some qualifications but the Dems will not be going as far as to not count the votes of two states.(No Duh Dr Dean)

Heck they'll probably dream up some tye of punishment like a sitting fee in the way of a fine payable to the party or better yet making them sit quietly in a corner all by themselves until they learn to play nice with the other states.

I went to Guam once, but I'm not really getting a kick out of these replies.

Bets for Tuesday?

MIguy: Obama won by seven votes and they each earned two delegates. Stand by for the Obama fan boys telling us how this seals the nomination.

Doesn't matter. Status quo for the rest of the election = Obama win.

Daddakamabb: Bets for Tuesday?

Clinton wins Indiana by 10, Obama wins NC by 3.

Shaggy_C: nekom: epic fail moment

You're sure it isn't his wife?

/This thread doesn't help my children.
//Every time I hear her talk I wanna beat her with a bat
/Giggity

Gunther: FTA (emphasis mine): Clinton issued a statement Saturday night promising, "I will continue to champion the issues facing the people of Guam, and when I'm president I will ensure that hard-working families of Guam have the resources and the opportunity to succeed."

Awfully presumptive of someone whose losing the primary to use "when" instead of "if". Does she know something we don't?

Standard rhetoric for any politician. You just feel like hatin'