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(Jules Crittenden) Obvious "The average voter didn't attend either Princeton, Columbia or Harvard, and didn't make $4.2 million last year or $991,296 the year before"   (julescrittenden.com) divider line 51
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The RIchest Man in Babylon 2008-05-03 05:32:34 PM  
<facepalm> Face + Palm </facepalm>

 
sarty [TotalFark] 2008-05-03 05:36:08 PM  
Hey that's _____________.

a. Racist
b. Elitist
c. Marxist
d. Classist

 
Etchy333 [TotalFark] 2008-05-03 05:46:21 PM  
Obama is an elitist because he's a politician and running for President.

We need to elect someone not running for President for President.

/doesn't sound like a bad idea actually

 
Atillathepun [TotalFark] 2008-05-03 05:56:46 PM  
It amazes me that "pundits" can't understand simple frakking English. Obama didn't say he was just like "regular" voters. He said his experience was more similar than the other two politicians in the race, a point that really can't be argued.

This blogger is an idiot.

 
Dinki [TotalFark] 2008-05-03 06:01:31 PM  
Atillathepun: This blogger is an idiot Wingnut.

Yah I know, same thing.

 
Arthur Jumbles [TotalFark] 2008-05-03 06:35:40 PM  
Obama is the son of a single mother who had to work hard all his life to achieve the things he has. McCain and Hillary, on the other had, were born to rich, well-connected families that gave them opportunities that most normal people never had.

 
Etchy333 [TotalFark] 2008-05-03 06:58:25 PM  
I wonder how big of an allowance McCain gets from his wife.

 
Neeek [TotalFark] 2008-05-03 08:12:48 PM  
The irony of all that is Obama making so much money the last couple years is largely because of his running for President. So many people have gotten interested in him that his book has sold well over a million copies.

There's a reason the blogger moran doesn't go farther back into the Obama's financial history: Their wealth is a recent event, and they have spend most of their lives not rich.

 
burndtdan 2008-05-03 09:14:02 PM  
Arthur Jumbles: Obama is the son of a single mother who had to work hard all his life to achieve the things he has. McCain and Hillary, on the other had, were born to rich, well-connected families that gave them opportunities that most normal people never had.

and mccain and clinton both married into even more powerful and influential connections.

 
Leonid 2008-05-03 09:26:48 PM  
The average voter is also not someone we want as President.

 
Murkanen 2008-05-03 09:27:31 PM  
The RIchest Man in Babylon:

<facepalm> Face + Palm </facepalm>

Seconded.

 
Murkanen 2008-05-03 09:28:07 PM  
Leonid:

The average voter is also not someone we want as President.

And this as well.

 
LocalCynic 2008-05-03 09:29:11 PM  
It's only in America that somebody could make up a word in order so that poor people and rich people alike can feel morally superior to somebody.

The irony is that the people who label Obama "elitist" do so because they think that they are better than him.

 
Mentat [TotalFark] 2008-05-03 09:29:39 PM  
If there is one thing that drives me absolutely nuts about America, it's our obsessive need to rally behind the underdog and then tear him to pieces for deigning to excel.

 
Tor_Eckman [TotalFark] 2008-05-03 09:31:44 PM  
So, I submit a good piece from Slate this morning regarding how ridiculous this gas tax holiday scam is that didn't go green and this garbage does?

WTF?

/I know, it's only barely related to this story
//just can't believe what gets green lit here sometimes and what doesn't

 
Bunnyhat 2008-05-03 09:36:02 PM  
"I do think one of the ironies of the past two or three weeks is this idea that Michelle and I are elitist, intellectual pointy-head types. The fact is our lives more closely approximate the lives of the average voters than any of the other candidates," he said. "We didn't recognize the caricature that was being painted of us over the last couple of weeks."



I keep reading that and I'm trying to figure out where he's wrong.
He said he's closer to the average voter then any of the other candidates and I have to agree with him.

We have Hilary who's married to the former president and who both have been in big business and politics the last what, 30 years. Both have made more money this year then the average person will in 10 years.

We have Mccain who grew up an admirals son, and who is also married to a very rich woman.


So HOW was he wrong?

 
ManatOrr [TotalFark] 2008-05-03 09:38:24 PM  
Mentat: If there is one thing that drives me absolutely nuts about America, it's our obsessive need to rally behind the underdog and then tear him to pieces for deigning to excel.

A very, very tired "this".

If someone wants to point out that Obama isn't like the "regular Joe", then they should do that. To say that Obama claims to *be* A "regular Joe" when the article quotes him specifically stating that "our lives more closely approximate the lives of the average voters than any of the other candidates", wants to claim that Obama is being factually incorrect by saying that, is idiocy.

I feel dirty for even responding to that trolling blogger.

 
Daddakamabb 2008-05-03 09:38:30 PM  
I seriously don't know what to say. It's like all the brain cells in my brain just died simultaneously. Article make me dumb hurr durr

 
Daddakamabb 2008-05-03 09:39:30 PM  
Bunnyhat: "We didn't recognize the caricature that was being painted of us over the last couple of weeks."

How could you not know?

 
Fook 2008-05-03 09:41:44 PM  
Etchy333: Obama is an elitist because he's a politician and running for President.

We need to elect someone not running for President for President.

/doesn't sound like a bad idea actually


If there was a good idea in any of Heinleins books, it was the idea of finding someone qualified to run things, but well balanced enough to not WANT to run things, and then MAKING them run things.

 
relayer40 2008-05-03 09:46:22 PM  
Mentat: If there is one thing that drives me absolutely nuts about America, it's our obsessive need to rally behind the underdog and then tear him to pieces for deigning to excel.

sort of like what happened to the red sox?

 
LawrencePerson 2008-05-03 09:49:31 PM  
Obama is the son of a single mother who had to work hard all his life become part of corrupt Chicago machine politics and suck up to racist black nationalist spouters of conspiracy theories and befriend radical Manson Family groupies to achieve the things he has.

FTFY

 
Fart_Machine 2008-05-03 09:49:43 PM  
Tor_Eckman: So, I submit a good piece from Slate this morning regarding how ridiculous this gas tax holiday scam is that didn't go green and this garbage does?

WTF?

/I know, it's only barely related to this story
//just can't believe what gets green lit here sometimes and what doesn't


Informative articles don't generate responses.

Dumb ones that ring the troll dinner bell do.

 
Jacobin 2008-05-03 09:50:04 PM  
I wonder how big of an allowance McCain gets from his wife.

Well they file separate tax returns, so it should be pretty easy to figure out. She's got quite a boy toy there.

 
epyonyx 2008-05-03 09:50:16 PM  
Give me a candidate who worked in a factory or who was a farmer. I would vote for them first.

 
GunshipPolitico 2008-05-03 09:51:00 PM  
I thought Harrison Bergeron was set in the future.

 
rga184 2008-05-03 09:52:52 PM  
Tor_Eckman: So, I submit a good piece from Slate this morning regarding how ridiculous this gas tax holiday scam is that didn't go green and this garbage does?

WTF?

/I know, it's only barely related to this story
//just can't believe what gets green lit here sometimes and what doesn't


Yes, it seems Drew writes a book about the media and how they pander and appeal to the lowest common denominator and everybody cheers.

But then you look at the shait the mods have been greenlighting lately and you wonder...are the mods the mainstream media?

/submitted a link with side by side comparisons on the platforms for the three major candidates that didn't get greenlit either.

 
Lawnchair 2008-05-03 09:53:35 PM  
burndtdan:
and mccain and clinton both married into even more powerful and influential connections.


McCain did remarry into powerful and influential connections. Hillary, no. Bill got where he is totally on self-made political acumen (and a whole lot of luck, like Ross Perot). Nothing given to him. He was not that connected... or at least no more connected than any other guy she could have met at Yale Law.

That said, by some recountings, Hillary was 95% of Bill's ambition. He might have become Governor of AR, but probably then been just fine being a law prof, smoking dope, and shagging coeds.

 
burndtdan 2008-05-03 09:55:51 PM  
Lawnchair: Hillary, no. Bill got where he is totally on self-made political acumen (and a whole lot of luck, like Ross Perot). Nothing given to him. He was not that connected... or at least no more connected than any other guy she could have met at Yale Law.

i just meant she got where she is because of who she was married to. he wasn't particularly well connected himself, but her career is still built on his coattails.

 
One F Jef 2008-05-03 09:58:17 PM  
rga184: Tor_Eckman: So, I submit a good piece from Slate this morning regarding how ridiculous this gas tax holiday scam is that didn't go green and this garbage does?

WTF?

/I know, it's only barely related to this story
//just can't believe what gets green lit here sometimes and what doesn't

Yes, it seems Drew writes a book about the media and how they pander and appeal to the lowest common denominator and everybody cheers.

But then you look at the shait the mods have been greenlighting lately and you wonder...are the mods the mainstream media?

/submitted a link with side by side comparisons on the platforms for the three major candidates that didn't get greenlit either.


The mods don't greenlight stuff based on how politically expedient it is, they do it based on how many CLICKS they get.

Your handy side-by-side comparison would surely be a good read and might educate people, but unless you put some sort of outrageous editorial assertion in the headline with no basis in reality or relation to the article, you won't get greenlit because it doesn't cause the click and flamewar festivals that they get their ad traffic from.

This one is green because they know the Obama fans on here will click it just to see who the evil hateful scumbag is, and the republicans will click it so they can masturbate to the prospect of people not liking their biggest fear.


Farkonomics, learn it.

 
randomjsa 2008-05-03 10:02:55 PM  
Yes, continue babbling about how the other candidates are elitists in an attempt to cover up the fact that Obama made condescending elitist statements about voters.

Just keep spinning.

 
ManatOrr [TotalFark] 2008-05-03 10:07:03 PM  
randomjsa: Yes, continue babbling about how the other candidates are elitists in an attempt to cover up the fact that Obama made condescending elitist statements about voters.

Just keep spinning.


I will, thanks.

And they're all elitists, Obama included.

Otherwise, they wouldn't be running for president.

Oh, and the whole "But he said bad stuff!" carries about 0 weight on Fark, as a huge percentage of us have said far more condescending things about those same exact people.

 
Lenny_da_Hog 2008-05-03 10:08:21 PM  
randomjsa: Yes, continue babbling about how the other candidates are elitists in an attempt to cover up the fact that Obama made condescending elitist statements about voters.

Just keep spinning.


And I suppose you have such insight because you're better than us unwashed masses, huh?

/translation: Anytime anyone says anything I disagree with, I can can accuse them of "elitism."

 
ragekage [TotalFark] 2008-05-03 10:09:51 PM  
Heh. These "ZOMG Obama's an elitist!!!11eleventy" folks crack me up every time. Sure, hell, ignore the context of the man's message and focus instead on a strict interpretation of the words spoken- make sure not to allow any nuance or common sense to enter the equation, or else the argument will collapse.

But, heck, you can't do that, can you? It's an awesome straw man attack to use against him, and they need every one they can get their hands on. I say, let 'em have their fun- if that's the best they can come up with, we'll be fine.

 
Son_Dee 2008-05-03 10:14:47 PM  
Simple fact that Obama should be pointing out time after time after time in his stump speeches to end this "elitist" crap:

Obama was in debt more recently than any of the other candidates. Obama and his wife only recently paid off their student loans from law school.

And, has been pointed out, they are "newly" rich. The Obama's didn't become millionares until Barack's books started doing well...mostly due to him running for president. Both Hillary and McCain have "old money." Especially McCain.

/Haven't been posting long enough to complain about the mod staff
//loves the mod staff here
///blatantly sucking up now

 
Number41 2008-05-03 10:17:48 PM  
Daddakamabb: How could you not know?

He didn't recognize it, meaning that he thought that it didn't represent him (not that he didn't know it was happening).

Unless you're making a jab at Obama.

 
Neeek [TotalFark] 2008-05-03 10:18:34 PM  
ManatOrr: And they're all elitists, Obama included.

Otherwise, they wouldn'tshouldn't be running for president.


Seriously, if you don't think you are in some way better than the average, or even the above average person, WTF are you doing running for the most important job in the world?

 
Wareq 2008-05-03 10:25:03 PM  
How many attended Annapolis?

 
mxstone 2008-05-03 10:34:07 PM  
Is Barack the first serious candidate who has relied on food stamps?

 
Arthur Jumbles [TotalFark] 2008-05-03 10:37:57 PM  
burndtdan: Arthur Jumbles: Obama is the son of a single mother who had to work hard all his life to achieve the things he has. McCain and Hillary, on the other had, were born to rich, well-connected families that gave them opportunities that most normal people never had.

and mccain and clinton both married into even more powerful and influential connections.


To be fair to Hillary she married beneath her in social standing. Sure, he made something of himself but Bill was the bad boy from the wrong side of the tracks.

 
Dread Pirate Slasher 2008-05-03 11:02:46 PM  
I'm writing in the old guy who lives 2 houses down from me. The only thing elite about him is his lawn.

 
Daddakamabb 2008-05-03 11:23:59 PM  
Number41: Daddakamabb: How could you not know?

He didn't recognize it, meaning that he thought that it didn't represent him (not that he didn't know it was happening).

Unless you're making a jab at Obama.


No I wasn't, it was supposed to be rhetorical. But thanks for trying to help XD

 
rga184 2008-05-03 11:53:57 PM  
One F Jef: The mods don't greenlight stuff based on how politically expedient it is, they do it based on how many CLICKS they get.

Your handy side-by-side comparison would surely be a good read and might educate people, but unless you put some sort of outrageous editorial assertion in the headline with no basis in reality or relation to the article, you won't get greenlit because it doesn't cause the click and flamewar festivals that they get their ad traffic from.

This one is green because they know the Obama fans on here will click it just to see who the evil hateful scumbag is, and the republicans will click it so they can masturbate to the prospect of people not liking their biggest fear.


Farkonomics, learn it.


I do know it, it's exactly what I mean. How is that any different from how the media chooses which stories to cover? I wish somebody would write a book about it so I could understand it better.

 
Yamaneko2 2008-05-04 12:06:51 AM  
Let's see...

Mrs. Clinton can loan herself $5 million and the couple made $109 million in the last 10 years.

Mr. McCain married a beer heiress and has eight houses.

The Obamas made $5.1 million in the last two years, largely on the strength of two best-selling novels. His dad abandoned him and his mom had to go on foodstamps to keep her son fed -- she eventually gave him to her mother and father. But he drinks orange juice.

 
McStinky 2008-05-04 01:48:34 AM  
Yamaneko2: Let's see...

Mrs. Clinton can loan herself $5 million and the couple made $109 million in the last 10 years.

Mr. McCain married a beer heiress and has eight houses.

The Obamas made $5.1 million in the last two years, largely on the strength of two best-selling novels. His dad abandoned him and his mom had to go on foodstamps to keep her son fed -- she eventually gave him to her mother and father. But he drinks orange juice.


Hmm... he sounds like someone not to be trusted! I'm going to vote for Ron Paul now!

/yeah, not really

 
Slugs_of_a_banana_nature 2008-05-04 02:12:22 AM  
"Normal" people don't run for president... they're not good enough. You want someone who is above everyone else, someone who is better than everyone else. I wouldn't want someone who is "just like" the average American running for president. The average American can't find Iran on a map, though he's sure we should bomb it. Hell, the average American can't tell the difference between Japan and Hawaii.

So he's got money, so what? He had a good education, so what? He has what he has because he worked hard for it, not because it was plopped into his lap by rich parents who had money plopped into their laps by rich parents. It's possible for people who were born into wealth to be good people too, though no one likes to admit it.

I thought "working your way up" and "doing your best" were prized American traits?

Now we're lambasting a candidate for having those same qualities?

 
Arthur Jumbles [TotalFark] 2008-05-04 02:27:03 AM  
Slugs_of_a_banana_nature: "Normal" people don't run for president... they're not good enough. You want someone who is above everyone else, someone who is better than everyone else. I wouldn't want someone who is "just like" the average American running for president. The average American can't find Iran on a map, though he's sure we should bomb it. Hell, the average American can't tell the difference between Japan and Hawaii.

So he's got money, so what? He had a good education, so what? He has what he has because he worked hard for it, not because it was plopped into his lap by rich parents who had money plopped into their laps by rich parents. It's possible for people who were born into wealth to be good people too, though no one likes to admit it.

I thought "working your way up" and "doing your best" were prized American traits?

Now we're lambasting a candidate for having those same qualities?


Yep..... because he makes it look too easy. He's this black guy with no dad, his mom was on food stamps and he was raised by his grandmother for part of his life and now he's a rich senator who is very likely going to become the next president. Seeing how far he's gone just makes most people think they've wasted their lives.

At least with people like GWB you can point to his rich papa and well-connected family friends to explain his success but with Obama you just have to conclude that he's better than you. And that's a bitter pill for many people to swallow.

 
One F Jef 2008-05-04 03:21:33 AM  
rga184: One F Jef: The mods don't greenlight stuff based on how politically expedient it is, they do it based on how many CLICKS they get.

Your handy side-by-side comparison would surely be a good read and might educate people, but unless you put some sort of outrageous editorial assertion in the headline with no basis in reality or relation to the article, you won't get greenlit because it doesn't cause the click and flamewar festivals that they get their ad traffic from.

This one is green because they know the Obama fans on here will click it just to see who the evil hateful scumbag is, and the republicans will click it so they can masturbate to the prospect of people not liking their biggest fear.


Farkonomics, learn it.

I do know it, it's exactly what I mean. How is that any different from how the media chooses which stories to cover? I wish somebody would write a book about it so I could understand it better.


Then why act so shocked that your crappy link didn't get greenlit? Hindsight 20/20 etc, you can thank/credit me later.

 
TownDrunk 2008-05-04 07:57:31 AM  
The amazing thing is that there are still *plenty* of people who would love to keep Bush in office, probably like this blogger. How do people get so ignorant/stupid?

 
Bender The Offender 2008-05-04 11:00:53 AM  
randomjsa: Yes, continue babbling about how the other candidates are elitists in an attempt to cover up the fact that Obama made condescending elitist statements about voters.

Just keep spinning.


Someone sounds bitter! Slobbering gun psycho or employment-challenged sister humper?

 
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