Nah, he's too intelligent and experienced, relative to the entire pack of idiots currently in the running (both sides), to actually win the presidency.

After all, look at who this country put in office for the last eight years.

Carter/Gore 08!

if gore ran, he'd pick a black woman as his running mate to quell the possible gender or racial outrage

/fark ate my picture

Algore and Obama....hmmm.....

I think that would make Hillary turn cannibal on live TV.

Weaver95: Algore and Obama....hmmm.....

I think that would make Hillary turn cannibal on live TV.

I would be on that like Larry Craig on a Flying J glory hole.

yeah THAT will happen

It's been their secret plan all along.

acanuck: ...look at who this country the Supreme Court put in office for the last eight years.

FTFY

It may not be too late, but its too stupid.

DamnYankees: It may not be too late, but its too stupid.

In any other environment, I would agree with you...however - a Hillary nomination would fracture the Democratic party. Maybe even destroy them entirely. I could see party insiders desperate enough to stop Hillary lobbying the superdelegates to vote for the algore. Then convincing Obama to take a vice presidental spot in order to cut Hillary out of the race entirely.

The democrat leaders know that the republicans are weak. weak enough that they could do almost anything and still take the white house. the only thing they *cannot* do is nominate Hillary. If that happens, they lose. They know it, the republicans know it and Obama knows it. Hillary knows it too but she doesn't care.

Weaver95: In any other environment, I would agree with you...however - a Hillary nomination would fracture the Democratic party. Maybe even destroy them entirely. I could see party insiders desperate enough to stop Hillary lobbying the superdelegates to vote for the algore. Then convincing Obama to take a vice presidental spot in order to cut Hillary out of the race entirely.

I disagree with your interpretation. The fracture wouldn't come from Hillary taking the nomination herself, but merely taking it away from Obama. Obama as anything other than the Presidential candidate would be a huge slap in the face to black people, young voters, and the 1.4 million people who have donated to him. If Obama is forced to take VP, then it means Hillary has successfully destroyed him enough - seeing Hillary also lose out on the nomination is hardly enough mollification.

In 2012, no it's not. He has plenty of time actually.

DamnYankees: I disagree with your interpretation. The fracture wouldn't come from Hillary taking the nomination herself, but merely taking it away from Obama. Obama as anything other than the Presidential candidate would be a huge slap in the face to black people, young voters, and the 1.4 million people who have donated to him. If Obama is forced to take VP, then it means Hillary has successfully destroyed him enough - seeing Hillary also lose out on the nomination is hardly enough mollification.

Obama as vice president wouldn't necessarily be that terrible a deal tho. And it has a certain broad based appeal to cross over voters. I'm not saying it's going to happen, merely that it's a possiblity.

One thing that I think just about everyone can agree on is that Hillary is the worst of all possible choices for the nomination. The party big wigs know it, but for reasons of decorum (and politics) they can't say it in public. Hillary running it out to the convention and then actually stealing the nomination from Obama would be the worst thing to happen to the democrats since....well, since a very very long time. Nobody knows what the results would be, but they'd be bad.

Weaver95: One thing that I think just about everyone can agree on is that Hillary is the worst of all possible choices for the nomination.

Which is why she'll get it, if we stroll down Nomination Lane: Kerry, Dukakis, Mondale. And I'm saying this as a registered Democrat. Well, I had to declare party here...

whidbey: Weaver95: One thing that I think just about everyone can agree on is that Hillary is the worst of all possible choices for the nomination.

Which is why she'll get it, if we stroll down Nomination Lane: Kerry, Dukakis, Mondale. And I'm saying this as a registered Democrat. Well, I had to declare party here...

What needs to happen is that Hillary has to 'take one for the team', as it were, and agree to end her campaign. But I doubt the power hungery biatch queen would be able to put the good of anyone (her party, her country, ect ect) ahead of her own desires.

In a way, that's sort of the problem with both parties - they're all too busy with chasing their own desires to bother putting the greater good of the nation ahead of their petty political agendas.

Since Taft, the US hasn't elected a fat president. Can the voters handle another administration that has to get the president unstuck from the tub multiple times?

at this point i would vote for Gore/Obama. Gore goes for one term, Obama runs as incumbent in 2012...

and then Hillary pops up out of the bath-tub with a butcher knife.

whidbey: Which is why she'll get it, if we stroll down Nomination Lane: Kerry, Dukakis, Mondale. And I'm saying this as a registered Democrat. Well, I had to declare party here...

Sad fact is that Americans usually go for the candidate with the best mass media persona.

Carter beat Ford.
Reagan beat Carter.
Reagan beat Mondale.
Bush beat Dukakis on Reagan's coattails.
Clinton beat Bush.
Clinton beat Dole.
Bush beat Gore, but call it a tie.
Bush beat Kerry.

With the exception of 1988 and 2000, the candidate with the more charismatic public persona won. There's no clear ideological pattern to it. It's why I think Obama will win, even though I don't like it.

Why not just give it to McCain by default?

Wombatzu: at this point i would vote for Gore/Obama. Gore goes for one term, Obama runs as incumbent in 2012...

and then Hillary pops up out of the bath-tub with a butcher knife.

HAHA!
No bunnys for you!

Weaver95: What needs to happen is that Hillary has to 'take one for the team', as it were, and agree to end her campaign.

Hillary's "taking one for the team" is the only reason that she is a national candidate. If you catch my drift...

WrightAyers'08!

What? I thought they were running?

Stranger things have happened. Believe it or not one guy won a Nobel Peace Prize for a documentary film about the environment, odd as that sounds.

It's also not too late for Al Gore to admit that he a lying scam artist, mostly stupid, and kill himself to apologize for his sins against humanity...

NYZooMan: WrightAyers'08!

What? I thought they were running?

Until I see them saluting the flag pin on their lapels I won't vote for them.

Churchill2004: whidbey: Which is why she'll get it, if we stroll down Nomination Lane: Kerry, Dukakis, Mondale. And I'm saying this as a registered Democrat. Well, I had to declare party here...

Sad fact is that Americans usually go for the candidate with the best mass media persona.

Carter beat Ford.
Reagan beat Carter.
Reagan beat Mondale.
Bush beat Dukakis on Reagan's coattails.
Clinton beat Bush.
Clinton beat Dole.
Bush beat Gore, but call it a tie.
Bush beat Kerry.

With the exception of 1988 and 2000, the candidate with the more charismatic public persona won. There's no clear ideological pattern to it. It's why I think Obama will win, even though I don't like it.

2000 wasn't any different. Gore looked like a piece of wood up there, talking about his lockbox and creating the internet. Bush at least seemed personable and stable, at least compared to how he behaves now. Remember, Bush was the one people wanted to have a beer with.

Churchill2004: With the exception of 1988 and 2000, the candidate with the more charismatic public persona won.

Haha...you appear to imply that Dukakis had a personality. Bush I had his mannerisms...

There's no clear ideological pattern to it. It's why I think Obama will win, even though I don't like it.

But there is, though. Reagan beat Carter and Clinton beat Bush because they successfully rallied the American voter.

I was pointing out that the bigwigs in the Democratic Party, the ones who have the most power and are over 45 are scrambling to put Hillary on the masthead. They're not Obama supporters, and are prone to desperation.

Republicans clap their hands in glee at the prospect of Al Gore popping into the race.

But Al is too smart for that. He's making a piasspot full of money. He doesn't have to account for his actions. He can say anything he wants and not have to worry about upsetting some special interest group. He would be stupid to get into active politics again. Now he can sit back and tell whoever is President why they are doing things wrong. He can criticize and not be accountable. But I guess the desire for power often overrules common sense. I still don't think he'll do it.

FTA:after turning on Hillary, and we lament that the mud will fly and anger rise for many more weeks, is this really so implausible?

Yes, yes it is. I could see Gore maybe being appointed to be Secretary of the Interior or some other kind of environmental policy advisor under Obama but its too late to seriously consider having him run for President this time, especially since the young and idealistic folks are already with Obama and all the "Lets bring back the 90s" folks are already backing Hillary.

potee

Remember, Bush was the one people wanted to have a beer with.


In retrospect, what a stupid criteria for sustaining a viable society.

Rovian: In retrospect, what a stupid criteria for sustaining a viable society.

It's sad that it took retrospection for people to come to that conclusion.

potee
Gore looked like a piece of wood up there, talking about his lockbox and creating the internet. Bush at least seemed personable and stable

Didn't Gore win the popular vote? Yeah I think he did. So much for your "argument".

Did anyone consult Gore and ask if he actually wanted it? There's a reason he didn't run, people.

Gosling: Did anyone consult Gore and ask if he actually wanted it? There's a reason he didn't run, people.

Since when do Democrats care about the consent of people? Between higher taxes, gun control, and activist judges, they don't care what people want.

Manbearpig.

Weaver95: Algore and Obama....hmmm.....

I think that would make Hillary turn cannibal on live TV.

I would donate the maximum amount of money to a Gore campaign if he told Clinton that she can't have the nomination and no it's not hers.

/Same thing with Obama

Now that the initial novelty of Barry has worn off, the Democrats are starting to realize that they don't have an electable candidate. But Gore won't run, he's making too much money selling Global Warming; and I'm sure he wouldn't want losing twice as his legacy.

Yes it is.

Weaver95: Hillary running it out to the convention and then actually stealing the nomination from Obama would be the worst thing to happen to the democrats since....well, since a very very long time. Nobody knows what the results would be, but they'd be bad.

Never underestimate the Democrats' ability to, despite all odds, miraculously snatch defeat from the jaws of victory.

Look at what happened in 2004. A Democratic win was almost a foregone conclusion, given Bush's opinion numbers, yet the Democrats still somehow managed to lose.

We're in for a repeat this year, I suppose. Hell, a bar stool could beat McCain, but if history's a guide they'll manage to nominate someone with less electability.

Al Gore probably goes to bed every night thanking the good Lord that he didn't get elected in 2000. Why in the world would he want to be President in 2008 when things are bound to run much worse?

Is it really too absurd to posit that the candidate who wins the most elected delegates should be the nominee?

/this is the Democratic Party, isn't it?

I'd personally rather see Al Gore as President and Barack Obama as Vice President...Not because I like Gore more, but because I want to field the teams with the best odds of winning...

I think that would greatly help the Democrats chances of winning in 2008... and it may end up landing us 16 years of competent leaders who can undo Bush's idiocy.

Neurochemist: I think that would greatly help the Democrats chances of winning in 2008... and it may end up landing us 16 years of competent leaders who can undo Bush's idiocy.

I think we're going to find that Bush's idiocy is like cigarette smoke. No matter how much we scrub the walls and try to wash our clothes and bedsheets, the whole house is going to stink of it decades after he's gone.

He won't do it. Give it a rest, people.

DamnYankees: Weaver95: In any other environment, I would agree with you...however - a Hillary nomination would fracture the Democratic party. Maybe even destroy them entirely. I could see party insiders desperate enough to stop Hillary lobbying the superdelegates to vote for the algore. Then convincing Obama to take a vice presidental spot in order to cut Hillary out of the race entirely.

I disagree with your interpretation. The fracture wouldn't come from Hillary taking the nomination herself, but merely taking it away from Obama. Obama as anything other than the Presidential candidate would be a huge slap in the face to black people, young voters, and the 1.4 million people who have donated to him. If Obama is forced to take VP, then it means Hillary has successfully destroyed him enough - seeing Hillary also lose out on the nomination is hardly enough mollification.

Never mind the people who VOTED for him.
Gotta be careful around black people!

I'd vote for him before I'd vote for Obama, McCain, especially Hillary.

Talk about elitist controlling the peasants. If they nominate someone who didn't even run, against the will of every Registered Democrat in the country, the party should be burned down and started anew.