Wow.

So now the cops will have to start carrying dozens of drop guns to place in the hands of entire crowds they blow away rather than just one for when they shoot one unarmed person.

Great idea.

Police State.

That is all.

Every time I'm confronted by a cougar I pull out a different kind of weapon.

The M16A is better with red dot or silencer, though. Or, if you are a fan of true automatics, the P90 is appropriate. However, I've found that the P90 is near useless without red dot.

mtman900: The M16A is better with red dot or silencer, though.

I prefer AGOG myself.

JPJ007: AGOG

er, ACOG

JPJ007: mtman900: The M16A is better with red dot or silencer, though.

I prefer AGOG myself.

I'm all agog over the ACOG.

/American College of Obstetricians and Gynecologists

I prefer the Chicago Deli Way.

Tall, smoked sammiches.

"Many times they're outgunned, to be very frank," Daley said at an event in the Englewood neighborhood. "When they come to a scene, someone has a semi fully-automatic weapon and you have a little pistol, uh, good luck."

What exactly is a semi fully-automatic weapon?

I loves me some Cougars.

The police them have a little gun
So when I'm on the streets, I walk around with a bigger one

/anyone know the reference?

CerealCode: "Many times they're outgunned, to be very frank," Daley said at an event in the Englewood neighborhood. "When they come to a scene, someone has a semi fully-automatic weapon and you have a little pistol, uh, good luck."

What exactly is a semi fully-automatic weapon?

Came in here to say that, except mine was more along the lines of "what the flying Fark is..."

And Chicago beat cops with M4's, yeah, thats gonna end well.

CerealCode: "Many times they're outgunned, to be very frank," Daley said at an event in the Englewood neighborhood. "When they come to a scene, someone has a semi fully-automatic weapon and you have a little pistol, uh, good luck."

What exactly is a semi fully-automatic weapon?

Perhaps a three-round burst weapon, like m16a2?

Nah, writer's just a dumbass.

CerealCode: "Many times they're outgunned, to be very frank," Daley said at an event in the Englewood neighborhood. "When they come to a scene, someone has a semi fully-automatic weapon and you have a little pistol, uh, good luck."

What exactly is a semi fully-automatic weapon?

Something obvious evil, scary and ban-worthy. That cops face every day. Duh!

/Throw Daley into the sarchaaaaasm. Aieeeeeeeeeeeeee.

mtman900: The M16A is better with red dot or silencer, though. Or, if you are a fan of true automatics, the P90 is appropriate. However, I've found that the P90 is near useless without red dot.

this is'nt call of duty. plus, if you cant get massive kills without a red dot you completely suck at life and gaming.

/gold shotty, m60, need 50 headshots with mp5 and skorpion to get gold uzi

TheJoe03: The police them have a little gun
So when I'm on the streets, I walk around with a bigger one

/anyone know the reference?

woop, they both ride horses?

Xxplosiv: TheJoe03: The police them have a little gun
So when I'm on the streets, I walk around with a bigger one

/anyone know the reference?

woop, they both ride horses?

After 400 years, I GOT NO CHOICES!

And since somebody's gonna do it

you claim im sellin crack, but YOU be doin that!!!

/i actually was listenin to that as i read your Boobies

I prefer the P90, personally, but I'm kinda short and don't get cramps some other people do when trying to aim using that useless built-in reflex sight. The newer ones that have standard Picatinnies are nice, though.

That being said, as long as it's done in a sane fashion, I don't disagree with this idea, but the ACLU's gonna throw a damned fit.

My uncle, in addition to being an arsehole, was a Chicago cop. He had an issued M16 in the trunk of his cruiser about 5-6 years ago. So this is really old news.

Freedom-Endured:

Nah, writer's just a dumbass.

I think that's a direct, so that's not the writers fault.

Go Cougars.

"We're finding out that the weapons of criminals are getting bigger and bigger, AK47s, all types of different weapons, because they can carry assault weapons, it's not a violation of federal law, and that is a concern for all of us," he said.

Dumbass. Say what you mean. Criminals are carrying guns that are banned in Chicago because they're criminals, and the cops need these weapons to defend themselves. Law abiding citizens are shiat out of luck, though.

Clearly, gun control is working out REALLY well for Chicago.

bssrf4: My uncle, in addition to being an arsehole, was a Chicago cop. He had an issued M16 in the trunk of his cruiser about 5-6 years ago. So this is really old news.

Even most rural departments carry a shotgun and an AR15 in the cruiser and have for at least ten years.

I'm still freaked out though about the former military APC's that were used to raid that "compound" a few weeks ago. What were the abuse allegations? Why did they warrant an ARMORED TASK FORCE to come in? Couldn't Team Barney Fife handle it like they do any domestic abuse situation?

meow

CerealCode: "Many times they're outgunned, to be very frank," Daley said at an event in the Englewood neighborhood. "When they come to a scene, someone has a semi fully-automatic weapon and you have a little pistol, uh, good luck."

What exactly is a semi fully-automatic weapon?

Maybe it's just the upper receiver for a fully automatic M4?

More appropriate perhaps?
Versatile and more useful against perps with automatics, but small and can be worn on the hip so not to scare the general populace.

Of course I'm just a Canadian, so what would I know...

Here comes your police state. Buckle up. We're in for a hell of a ride.

I can has M4 Carbine?

It's Chicago. Nuke it and move on.

With the news of how many farking deaths recently after the chief said homicides were low, I can kind of understand the overkill. Not condoning it, but on the other hand, not condemning it, either. If the gangs and thugs are packing AK's and assault rifles, it's only logical that the police want to out-gun them.

If proper training and caution are used when handling these weapons, I don't see a problem. However, there will always be that one cop that'll go nutzoid, and once again the criminals out-gun the public and the police.

/i expect a followup tag in the next several weeks regarding this

"When they come to a scene, someone has a semi fully-automatic weapon and you have a little pistol, uh, good luck."

This guy does not know what he is talking about...

"We're finding out that the weapons of criminals are getting bigger and bigger, AK47s, all types of different weapons, because they can carry assault weapons, it's not a violation of federal law, and that is a concern for all of us," he said.

he is simply taking advantage of a tragic situation in order to advance his political goals. I would be surprised if any of the shootings in the recent spree involved a rifle.

"Unarmed civilians", subby? Are you being a little ironical there? This is just Daley's tacit admission that, after 26 years, the gun ban still isn't working. Don't look for it to be rolled back any time soon, though.

/Someone had to get that ball rolling.

Boy, it's a good thing those weapons bans are in place.

Love the math:

13,500 M4 rifles (FTFA) at $1,699.99 each = $22,949,865!

Money well spent?
I don't know!

How often do cops get into firefights where bigger rifles would make a difference? I know it happens, but often enough to risk the collateral damage? Seriously.

Cops have to be careful where they shoot so I'm guessing they don't get into military style firefights all that often do they? I would think most of the time the pistol is good enough.

To all who are harking the "police state" thing: When people decide to go criminal and start gunning down innocent civilians using military-grade weapons, and all the police have are the average standard issue weapons and therefore can't defend themselves or the public, I'll wager my salary that you're the same people who will complain that the gangs and thugs have access to better weapons and that something should be done, and that your tax dollars going to the police are being wasted on pistols.

/unless, you are for a state run by the bloods/crips
//have fun with that

Relax, people!

For the gunners: they're just making it more convenient for you to get your weapons when the revolution comes.

For the anti-gunners: rest assured, once the police have this situation fully under control, they will stop buying new guns and peacefully turn theirs in. Promise.

RoxtarRyan: When people decide to go criminal and start gunning down innocent civilians using military-grade weapons

With the minor problems that a) only one murder in Chicago has actually been with an "assault weapon" and b) "assault weapon" or "military-grade weapons" are meaningless scare terms that target guns rarely used in crime because of they way they look, despite the fact that they're often functionally identical to other, legal guns.

RoxtarRyan: I'll wager my salary that you're the same people who will complain that the gangs and thugs have access to better weapons and that something should be done, and that your tax dollars going to the police are being wasted on pistols.

/unless, you are for a state run by the bloods/crips
//have fun with that

Well, given that the gangs in my area have grenades, rocket launchers, teams of dogs, and access to weapons illegally bought and brought in from Mehico (including weapons stolen from their army), you'd think I'd already be complaining about the cops being out gunned.

But no, I'm not.

Properly trained and motivated police officers are the answer, not over arming undertrained and undermotivated officers.

RoxtarRyan:

Hi. The police should have rifles, but this is "news" because the mayor has decided to try to make this a federal gun control issue when he knows that only a tiny fraction of crimes committed in his cities are with rifles.

9mm: Love the math:

13,500 M4 rifles (FTFA) at $1,699.99 each = $22,949,865!

Money well spent?
I don't know!

No, I just went to the company I bought my PS90 from, and Match Target M4's are going for $1,253.49
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Failing_Junk: he knows that only a tiny fraction of crimes committed in his cities are with rifles

A grand total of one out of 87 during the recent "uptick" in the murder rate that started this whole thing.

http://reason.com/news/show/126162.html

Plug_Nickel: Don't look for it to be rolled back any time soon, though.

June. The Supreme Court is ruling on Washington D.C.'s ban on handguns. The ruling could have a huge impact on the current situation here in Chicago.

Let's try that again

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Little known (or widely ignored) fact:

Law abiding citizens are responsible for 0% of Chicago's crimes involving firearms.

TehNacho: Properly trained and motivated police officers are the answer, not over arming undertrained and undermotivated officers.

Oh, absolutely! Training is an absolute MUST. Also, according to TFA, they'll be armed with these weapons when dealing with gangs and "other criminals." Granted, the "other criminals" part needs more definition, but I'd like think that they wouldn't be carrying these to a noise disturbance call.