As a Texan, I can honestly say I've known lots of folks to have guns younger than him. The difference is in Texas the 2nd amendment is closer to being followed, we don't have to have one of those cards and there isn't a hard number limit.

I'm happy about this only because I feel like making a mockery of Illinois' draconian gun licensing system, not necessarily because I support 10 month olds with guns.

As a 10-month old with a gun permit, I'm really going to get a kick out of these replies.

how did the 10 month old sign the form?

FTFA: Signature: [a scribble]


hehehe Bubba's got his first permit.

The_Wilde_Yoh: As a 10-month old with a gun permit, I'm really going to get a kick out of these replies.

is that kick giving you pain in your shoulder?

He shouldn't have had to file for the card at all to own a gun. And children should be exposed to guns from a young age. Teach them how to safely use them and remove the taboo that makes them so prone to accidents. Though 10 months old is obviously too young, there's no reason a 3 or 4 year old can't plink targets with a .22 with Dad's assistance.

Don't they mean the FOAD Act?

Well to be fair, the kid's almost 2 now, about a year older than the story.

horseshiat, I thought the minimum age was 18?

Man On Fire: horseshiat, I thought the minimum age was 18?

Not at all. My grandpa gave me his revolver when I was 16. That was in Arkansas, and there wasn't even any paperwork required. The law hasn't changed since then, and Arkansas's hardly has the most liberal gun laws compared to states like Vermont or New Hampshire.

Date of Birth: 2006
...
There's one important question they didn't ask: Are you an infant?

Someone's a dumbass.

So... if there's no age restriction, there's no training requirement, and they'll obviously issue these "permits" to anyone, what's the point of the "permit" again?

For the sarcasm-impaired: it's a tracking device.

KIA: So... if there's no age restriction, there's no training requirement, and they'll obviously issue these "permits" to anyone, what's the point of the "permit" again?

It's a gun control measure. Don't expect any connection to facts or reality behind its rationale. Just be glad it's not worse.

KIA: For the sarcasm-impaired: it's a tracking device.

What?

ifelldownstair: TFA: Date of Birth: 2006
Submitter: Bitter 10-month-old
huh?

When the article was written and first greenlit, yes.

Why is the ten month old bitter about the situation. He already won it.

By posting a comment, you affirm that you are 13 years of age or older.


Article comes with it's own Fark comments joke.

my son (god rest his soul) was ten months old and he couldn't even take a bath on his own :(


/trial and error

"By posting a comment, you affirm that you are 13 years of age or older."

We can own guns but not post a comment.

Churchill2004: New Hampshire.

That's right. $10 for a 4 yr concealed pistol/revolver license, end of story. Open carry is legal everywhere in the state that it's legal to carry a firearm (does that make sense, because the law is written like that). I actually went to a Chinese restaurant that had a "no firearms allowed" sign in the window. I had to walk back to the car and lock up my gun. I'm probably not going to go back there again, because I know of a few other restaurants and bars that actually prefer the patrons to carry. (Murphy's Taproom as a fer instance, Keith won't serve you if you're carrying, but as there were a few shootings when the place used to be Omega, he's happy the Open Arms crowd is keeping out the Revenge Killing crowd.)

You can have his gun when you pry it out of his tiny, instinctively-gripping fingers.

Mayhem of the Black Underclass: Open carry is legal everywhere in the state that it's legal to carry a firearm (does that make sense, because the law is written like that).

Which, for the record, includes everywhere except courtrooms. Not courthouses, courtrooms. And the bailiff has to hold your gun for you and give it back when you leave.

Mayhem of the Black Underclass: Murphy's Taproom

Free State Project!

There was an excellent video done by Dave Ridley showing open carry at Murphy's, but someone threatened to complain to the Alcohol Control people so he took it down for the owner. There was nothing illegal about it, but alcohol licenses can be revoked pretty damn arbitrarily.

ifelldownstair: TFA: Date of Birth: 2006
Submitter: Bitter 10-month-old
huh?

FTA: Posted by Mike Carney at 01:32 PM/ET, May 16, 2007 in Offbeat

That'll do Bubba, that'll do.

Alright as a gun owning Illinoisan, I feel I have to explain a couple of things.

1. Yes, Illinois will issue anyone who pays the fee a FOID card who does not answer yes to any of the questions on the application - and the background check confirms the answers as all NO.

2. The card does not give you the right to own, carry, purchase, transport, or conceal any firearm.

3. The FIOD card is NOT A PERMIT. It is a manner of assuring retailers that you have passed an Illinois background check and are not a felony, insane, etc.

4. In Illinois you have to be 16 to purchase or possess (without parental supervision) an air gun or paintball marker. You have to 18 to purchase or possess rifles and shotguns or rifle and shotgun ammunition (without parental supervision). You have to be 21 to purchase or possess a pistol or pistol ammo. So even if baby Bubba would manage to get money, go to the store and try to buy a gun or ammo who would not be allowed to.

5. The FOID changes the requirements for transport of a gun in your car. Which would be way to complicated to explain.

Simply put, When the (insert your favorite government department here) decides that Illinois should be gun free... They know where you live to come get your guns. Oddly enough all the merchants just look at the FOID card but do not take your number down. The federal forms are how they track the firearms by serial number.

This has been your quick informational session on the state of Chicago Illinois gun regulations as it relates to Illinois.

I've had a FOID Since I was 12.

Big deal, so the kid has a FOID card. I once heard of a guy who got one for his dog.

What is a Firearms Owner's Identification card? Basically it is a ID card issued by the Illinois State Police. I guess the best description is that it is a precursor to the background check done when purchasing a firearm. In Illinois, you must present the card when purchasing a firearm, ammunition, handling a firearm at a gunshop, and have on your person when in possession of a firearm(hunting, target shooting, traveling with firearms, etc.). It is NOT a concealed carry permit and does not allow the unlawfull use or carry of firearms. Any one passing the background check can apply for the card.

The card is also used when firearms are transfered between private indiduals. Both parties are required to record the other's FOID number and retain that info in their personal records for 10 years.

In Illinois the legal ages to purchase a firearm are 18 for long guns and ammunition and 21 for handguns and handgun ammunition. "Bubba" would still be unable to purchase firearms.

At least this is one kid who will be able to go to a 7-11 on his own in a few years.

Churchill2004: Man On Fire: horseshiat, I thought the minimum age was 18?

Not at all. My grandpa gave me his revolver when I was 16. That was in Arkansas, and there wasn't even any paperwork required. The law hasn't changed since then, and Arkansas's hardly has the most liberal gun laws compared to states like Vermont or New Hampshire.

I got my first gun at 14.

/Wisconsin
//Dad said if I was a boy, I could've had one at 12 :-(
///His rule, not the state's

I guess his name didn't turn up in the SCMODS . . .

Got my Cheese Whiz boy?

Nice referance

lalala funny stuff. doens't anybody actually read the constitution ?

"Subject only to the police power, the right of the
individual citizen to keep and bear arms shall not be
infringed"

the only people not permitted to bear arms as they please are people committing crimes and being arrested. as in, you can't rob a bank and expect the constitution to get you out of trouble.

no age restriction. no permit required.

gun laws were invented by white people to keep black people from getting guns. there was no other reason. gun laws are racist.

TheSwissNavy: gun laws were invented by white people to keep black people from getting guns. there was no other reason. gun laws are racist.

Race has nothing to do with it. Guns scare people who have power, so they want them gone. Every Evil dictator (Hitler for example) has disarmed the common man for the reasons of "public safety" or "we don't need guns we have an army." then look what happens, genocide. Or in the case of North Korea, People starve to death and the government and their friends just get fatter. An unarmed people are SUBJECTS, an armed people are CITIZENS. No matter the race, gender, etc.

Lastly, gun laws only affect the law abiding. Most gun crimes are committed by people who really don't care about laws and regulations anyway.

Didn't Drew Peterson have his firearms confiscated by police as evidence when they searched his house? Then when the rest of the evidence was returned (his cars, computers, etc.) the DA requested to a judge to not return his firearms. The judge ruled that the guns had to be returned as part of all the evidence that was taken, so the DA requested that the state take away his FOID card. The judge said okay. Problem solved. With no FOID card the state can't return his guns. Last I heard, he was trying to get the state to return the guns to his oldest son, also a police officer.

So, the minimum age to fark is 18 years, the minimum age to drink is 21 years, but the minimum age to own a firearm is 1 day?
Wait, wha?

As a gun owner in Illinois and an active in our efforts to get Concealed Carry passed here, I can honestly say that most gun owners and advocates believe that the FOID card system should be elminated. We should not have to pay to enjoy our second amendment rights!

Also the Illinois State Police have total discretion over the FOID system and have, in the last few months, illegally bypassed the state constitution and frozen or heavily delayed FOID application processing for minors, stating pending law changes.

The kicker is, there has been no law changes regarding the FOID and what they are doing is Illegal!

Its a shame really...

Hey! Hold my binky and watch this!

irishjihad: I guess his name didn't turn up in the SCMODS . . .

shiat...what...rollers...no...yeah...shiat

Those crazy US Americans!

lodferret: TheSwissNavy: gun laws were invented by white people to keep black people from getting guns. there was no other reason. gun laws are racist.

Race has nothing to do with it. Guns scare people who have power, so they want them gone. Every Evil dictator (Hitler for example) has disarmed the common man for the reasons of "public safety" or "we don't need guns we have an army." then look what happens, genocide. Or in the case of North Korea, People starve to death and the government and their friends just get fatter. An unarmed people are SUBJECTS, an armed people are CITIZENS. No matter the race, gender, etc.

Lastly, gun laws only affect the law abiding. Most gun crimes are committed by people who really don't care about laws and regulations anyway.

True, but originally race had a lot to do with it. The original gun control laws were nothing but racist crap.

Personally, i think most of the gun laws should be repealed, and the Brady Campaign can lick my hairy ballsack.