Eeeew.

She'd get my vote.

Great move by Sheehan. Pelosi has done nothing to end Bush's Excellent Mesopotamian Adventure, so why shouldn't she get primaried?

Frankly George Bush should be impeached and his cabinet summarily shot. Karl Rove is included kids, don't feel so bad.

/I'd use a .50 cal.
// Slashies at 2:20am est.

Look at Cindy Sheehan. Cindy Sheehan, look at her.

I like Sheehan. She has a ton of fight in her. I'll take her over Pelosi any day of the week.

You know, I wanted to chide Sheehan but after reading the article, I'm not so inclined to disagree with her.

Too me, that fact that the Democrats will not impeach this administration is an absolute travesty. They are basically saying "It will be a lot of work that we don't really feel like doing." To me, this is the equivalent of finding out that someone in your household was murdered and the cops and detectives saying "Man, it will take forever to find out who did this. And we'd have to stop issuing as many traffic tickets. Sorry but this is a no go."

Why can't the Dems just hire some kind of independant council to investigate the Bush Admin? A Kenneth Starr for the Democrats? What am I missing here? Or in the words of Bill Maher:

"Can the Democrats please just grow one ball? Just one...."

KOOLmike: Look at Cindy Sheehan. Cindy Sheehan, look at her.

Someone needs to tell Cindy her 15 minutes were up a long, long time ago.

seabass242: I like Sheehan. She has a ton of fight in her. I'll take her over Pelosi any day of the week.

So does a rabid wildebeest but I'm not sure I'd put it in charge of anything. Pelosi may not be great but I'd not like to trade her for Sheehan.

I remember a protest here in SF during the summer where she got up on the stage at Dolores Park and started raging about something or another.

I remember vividly the Gyro booth. The message booth. The souvenir booth. The 'Che" Guevara t-shirts worn by every stupid cracker spawn in the crowd.

Yeah, that's funny. They were protesting the war by wearing t-shirts of a man known for using tanks as conflict resolution.

Now I'm a liberal. But these people are ignorant and bored.

At the very least it won't be boring! I mean really, I hate boring!

//DRUNK!
///PASS THE POPCORN!

(Bonus: already endorsed by Ted McGinley)

So, if the usual rules apply, that means that she's jumped the shark, right?

1 coont 2 coont who farking cares....same shiat

You gotta be flippin kidding me. People here actually want to see Cindy Sheehan in charge of something.. anything.. besides being a biatch.

Holy shiat.
Seriously... never thought I'd see that day.

That's like making Al Gore the leading scientist on fighting global warming just because he biatches about it a lot. He's not a scientist. She is definitely not a politician, or leader, or intelligent, or not a biatch.

I for one support this move. I would even vote for her. Let the entire country see how absolutely nutty, disorganized, and clueless these people (and particularly Sheehan) are on how to actually solve this situation.

Bush may show up with a knife to a gunfight intellectually, but Sheehan shows up with a balloon animal.

InferiousX:
Why can't the Dems just hire some kind of independant council to investigate the Bush Admin? A Kenneth Starr for the Democrats? What am I missing here? Or in the words of Bill Maher:

"Can the Democrats please just grow one ball? Just one...."

The investigations were started by Clinton himself and the Republicans were free to choose who investigated because they were in control of the House. The premise of the investigations were for alleged crimes before he was President. No crimes were ever found.

Essentially, Bush would have to choose to be investigated. Since he was a worthless Governor in Texas with no power at all... He's clean.

But I agree with you. Then DEMS have been little Nancy's when it comes to this FARK.

There was a time when she had point. But somewhere along the line she passed that point and headed straight into coo-coo bananas and broken clock right twice a day territory.

Interestingly enough, to impeach a president, you need more than just made up lies and anti-American anger. Bush has not done anything illegal. What would be your reason to impeach, really, you disagree with his policy?

And don't be a classic lib douche, if you say Bush lied, show evidence for cryin out loud.

a21ozcoldcup: You gotta be flippin kidding me. People here actually want to see Cindy Sheehan in charge of something.. anything.. besides being a biatch.

Granted, I wouldn't want to actually see her win. But from just this particular article I think she has some valid points.

My name is Pelosi, and this is Dumbass.

I'm sure the only reason Pelosi hasn't tried to impeach Bush is for the global oil illuminatii. Pelosi and Bush are tight, Keith Olbermann told me so!!!!

Now? NOW? Now it's a f*cking waste of time. You got to be kidding me. By the time she wins, he'll be gone.

So? If she wants to do that, then more power to her; anyone who wants to run for public office should do so. If you don't like that she's running and you live in that district, then don't vote for her. If you don't live in that district, then what the hell are you whining about?

InferiousX: Too me, that fact that the Democrats will not impeach this administration is an absolute travesty. They are basically saying "It will be a lot of work that we don't really feel like doing." To me, this is the equivalent of finding out that someone in your household was murdered and the cops and detectives saying "Man, it will take forever to find out who did this. And we'd have to stop issuing as many traffic tickets. Sorry but this is a no go."

Wow, that analogy sucks. The whole point is that the current administration is all but lame duck, and impeaching would be a long, pointless process that would do nothing but piss off republicans. So it's more like they found out who committed the murder, and he was already dead. Then they tell you that no charges would be pressed because his brother is a foreign dignitary who would be pissed, and that arresting a dead dude is retarded.

a21ozcoldcup: That's like making Al Gore the leading scientist on fighting global warming just because he biatches about it a lot. He's not a scientist. She is definitely not a politician, or leader, or intelligent, or not a biatch.

You win for Most Logical Fallacies in One "Sentence"!

Not a politician: If she wins an elected then she would be one. Every politician has to win their first election.
Not a leader: Voters would have to decide that
Not intelligent: Probably more intelligent than the average Farker
Not a biatch: Yeah, she is a biatch. I mean, why couldn't she just let go of the fact that her son died in a war that doesn't make sense. Why can't she just make nice for the camera and wave like a good comrade, I mean American.

Thunderpipes

And don't be a classic lib douche, if you say Bush lied, show evidence for cryin out loud.

WMDs in Iraq.

End of argument.

Dear Stupid Members of the Left Wing including Sheehan,

Things are not simple. People on the right are morons and they played their "Impeachment" card. If we respond directly, it will create an ever-delving spiral of fighting in Washington. The villains are the republicans. Not people who are biding their time to respond when it will be effective instead of stupid. Try working with us. You'll find it more successful then "No nukes" or "PeTA rules" stickers, and infinitely more pleasurable when we take the right-wing spinheads and ram reality down their stinking gullets.

Regards,
The Rest of the Left.

InferiousX: WMDs in Iraq.

They were moved to Syria!

Robobuu: InferiousX: Too me, that fact that the Democrats will not impeach this administration is an absolute travesty. They are basically saying "It will be a lot of work that we don't really feel like doing." To me, this is the equivalent of finding out that someone in your household was murdered and the cops and detectives saying "Man, it will take forever to find out who did this. And we'd have to stop issuing as many traffic tickets. Sorry but this is a no go."

Wow, that analogy sucks. The whole point is that the current administration is all but lame duck, and impeaching would be a long, pointless process that would do nothing but piss off republicans. So it's more like they found out who committed the murder, and he was already dead. Then they tell you that no charges would be pressed because his brother is a foreign dignitary who would be pissed, and that arresting a dead dude is retarded.


My point is that some kind of repricussions are needed.

Getting on the ballot will be the easy part for Sheehan. If she becomes a recognized candidate, she'll be challenging one of the best-known and most powerful Democrats in the country in Pelosi, a 10-term incumbent who routinely collects around 80 percent of the vote in the San Francisco-only district.

There is something seriously wrong with politics when one of the safest Democrats in Congress is still a total pussy when it comes to opposing Bush and the Republicans.

Befuddled: If you don't live in that district, then what the hell are you whining about?

This.

Free speech for me, not for thee!

By going up against Pelosi, she's basically a third party candidate, so we're probably not going to see her in Congress. But yeah, if she can get supporters and everything that makes an election go, why not?

I was really excited when Nancy Pelosi became the first Madam Speaker. I truly thought that congress was finally going to start moving in a direction... ANY direction. I even understood that because congress is just barely over 50% Democrat, it would take more time and work to get things going. But she, and the Democratic-led Congress have been a complete and embarrassing failure.

/scared we're going to lose control of at least one branch of congress. Dems are just barely hanging on.
//let the crazy lady run against pelosi. it's her right to try. if she loses, fine. if she wins, she'll just be another un-influential freshman congressman.

InferiousX: They are basically saying "It will be a lot of work that we don't really feel like doing."

No, they are basically saying "the country and market are in a trainwreck enough of a situation without us adding to it for a guy who's gone in a few months."

Also, Pelosi basically being in control of inserting herself as president almost guarantees that a republican wins the office again.

a21ozcoldcup: You gotta be flippin kidding me. People here actually want to see Cindy Sheehan in charge of something.. anything.. besides being a biatch.

Holy shiat.
Seriously... never thought I'd see that day.

That's like making Al Gore the leading scientist on fighting global warming just because he biatches about it a lot. He's not a scientist. She is definitely not a politician, or leader, or intelligent, or not a biatch.

The most important part of what you said.

I like it when crazy people get in office. They tend to make things ineffective, and that is how I like my govt. What we have now is a government who does a "good job" of farking things up. I would rather nothing get done.

Shrinkwrap: InferiousX: WMDs in Iraq.

They were moved to Syria!

InferiousX: Thunderpipes

And don't be a classic lib douche, if you say Bush lied, show evidence for cryin out loud.

WMDs in Iraq.

End of argument.

Umm, no. The entire world's intelligence agencies (including France, Germany, UK, Interpol, etc.) all agreed he had them. he probably did. You might want to lookup what "lie" means.

IKanHazaBukkit: Frankly George Bush should be impeached and his cabinet summarily shot. Karl Rove is included kids, don't feel so bad.

/I'd use a .50 cal.
// Slashies at 2:20am est.

I hate those pigs.

Cindy's awesome. Only assholes attack a woman for protesting the instigator of an illegal war that killed her son under false pretenses.

InferiousX: Thunderpipes

And don't be a classic lib douche, if you say Bush lied, show evidence for cryin out loud.

WMDs in Iraq.

End of argument.

No, that's really not the end of the argument. Dems and various other anti-war people keep trying to keep it that simple when it's really not. The intelligence that Saddam Hussein was still working on WMDs was very credible and infact correct, however since under Clinton we basically whittled the CIA down to jack and shiat, we only had intelligence that had been around since the 90s. After Clinton bombed Saddam's WMD facilities, he surreptitiously gave up the program (apparently), but thanks to the fact that we had ZERO HUMINT people on the ground in Iraq, and we were supplied information from international intelligence agencies confirming this, George Bush legitimately thought Saddam Hussein had WMDs. This fits in with the Bush Doctrine.

George Bush ran on a platform of staying away from nation building. However after Sept. 11 it was decided that we had to do something to change the increasingly shiatty living situations and poisonous political culture of the Middle East. Add to that Saddam Hussein appeared to be working on WMDs from our standpoint, and was also possibly collaborating with terrorists.

While I agree that it was largely played up, it was not then considered an illegitimate rationale at ALL, but since WMDs were NOT found the hippies equivocate that to say "Bush lied!" when they have zero evidence of that being the case. It's farking stupid.

Daniels: No, they are basically saying "the country and market are in a trainwreck enough of a situation without us adding to it for a guy who's gone in a few months."

Also, Pelosi basically being in control of inserting herself as president almost guarantees that a republican wins the office again.

Ok that's fine by me. So the message seems to be "He's only in office for a short time, we'll wait until afterwards to inflict the wrath." But what is this 'plan' that the Democrats are biding their time for? I'm not asking out of snark, i'm asking out of seriousness because if there is a plan, I have not heard a single breath of it.

From what I heard two years ago, the newly elected Democratic Congress was supposed to be the cure-all for the Bush Administrations screw ups. I'm still waiting for that promise to go through.

I wonder what the split is in that district, If Sheehan can get enough votes from Pelosi it would be amazing if a republican got elected. How awesomely farktastic would that be.
Also, god how I wish this woman had not disgraced the memory of her son. I only hope that she finally got him a tombstone, it was just a little marker for his gave for the longest time.

InferiousX: Robobuu: InferiousX: Too me, that fact that the Democrats will not impeach this administration is an absolute travesty. They are basically saying "It will be a lot of work that we don't really feel like doing." To me, this is the equivalent of finding out that someone in your household was murdered and the cops and detectives saying "Man, it will take forever to find out who did this. And we'd have to stop issuing as many traffic tickets. Sorry but this is a no go."

Wow, that analogy sucks. The whole point is that the current administration is all but lame duck, and impeaching would be a long, pointless process that would do nothing but piss off republicans. So it's more like they found out who committed the murder, and he was already dead. Then they tell you that no charges would be pressed because his brother is a foreign dignitary who would be pissed, and that arresting a dead dude is retarded.


My point is that some kind of repricussions are needed.

That kind of logic makes you as bad as you say Bush is. Any congressional action taken again him just for the sake of punishing him does nothing good for the country. It is nothing but a personal vendetta which wastes time and resources which could be spent on much more crucial legislation. The proper thing to do is work to fix what he farked up, which will be much easier with the republicans on your side.

Monkey's Knuckle: IKanHazaBukkit: Frankly George Bush should be impeached and his cabinet summarily shot. Karl Rove is included kids, don't feel so bad.

/I'd use a .50 cal.
// Slashies at 2:20am est.

I hate those pigs.

Cindy's awesome. Only assholes attack a woman for protesting the instigator of an illegal war that killed her son under false pretenses.

I like those pigs, for not bowing down to a biatch-dog like Cindy and stupid liberal socialists. Sucks you can't do anything about it, huh sport? Hehe.

You have no real evidence of any kind that Bush has done anything worthy of impeachement. You just hate, biatch, and have nothing else to go on. "illegal" war indeed. How is it illegal anyway? News flash, it isn't. Another liberal lie.

If she wins she can go on tv and brag about how her district demanded change and she's just the one to do it. When she loses, she's gonna go on tv and accuse the Bush administration of conspiring to keep her out of office out of fear. Either way we're gonna see more of that ugly mug on tv. Ma'am, I'm sorry your son died. I truly am. But he's a big boy. He knew what would happen when he enlisted, just like I did. Stop using his grave as a soapbox for your hatred. It's disrespectful and embarassing. Oh, and his name was CASEY. Seems the whole world knows her name but can never remember his. It's sad, really.

War crimes. Interesting. What war crimes has Bush commited? Oh, another liberal myth?

Robobuu: That kind of logic makes you as bad as you say Bush is. Any congressional action taken again him just for the sake of punishing him does nothing good for the country. It is nothing but a personal vendetta which wastes time and resources which could be spent on much more crucial legislation. The proper thing to do is work to fix what he farked up, which will be much easier with the republicans on your side.

Do you think that jail, fines, and all forms of punitive action (and I would argue the former has at least a partially punitive purpose) are immoral?

SemperLieSuckah: The intelligence that Saddam Hussein was still working on WMDs was very credible and infact correct

No it wasn't. They were lying since the start about WMD's. They knew from very early on that Saddam had no WMD capacity. The farked thing is everyone who was in the loop knew it (including Democrats) but it was a way to keep the inspectors in Iraq so they could snoop and to keep the pressure on Saddam with the sanctions. The whole point of the first Gulf War and all that followed was to remove Saddam as he wasn't cooperating in letting the oil companies have unfettered access to Iraqi oil fields.

InferiousX: From what I heard two years ago, the newly elected Democratic Congress was supposed to be the cure-all for the Bush Administrations screw ups. I'm still waiting for that promise to go through.

Because they're liars, too.

Pelosi, as the speaker of the house, was NEVER going to enact impeachment proceedings on Bush and Cheney because it would have been seen as a thinly veiled back-door into the presidency that woudl have destroyed all the goodwill the Dems had with the non-party people.

Honestly, I don't think they have a plan. I think they ran on the "we're not him" platform to win the House back. After that, business as usual.

Thunderpipes: What war crimes has Bush commited?

So what crime did Saddam commit in invading Kuwait that justified UN intervention to kick him out? We did the same thing he did. We invaded then occupied a sovereign nation that was no threat to us.