Fantastic

"We're just bleeding each other out," Guerra-Mondragon told the Washington Post. "Looking at it as coldly as I can, I just don't see how Senator Clinton can overcome Senator Obama with delegates and popular votes. I want this fight to be over, the quicker the better...I continue to think she is a fantastic and formidable person. But I am first of all a Democrat.""

Wow. Someone actually gets it. Hopefully this will start a solid movement so the nomination can be wrapped up relatively soon.

Car_Ramrod: "We're just bleeding each other out," Guerra-Mondragon told the Washington Post. "Looking at it as coldly as I can, I just don't see how Senator Clinton can overcome Senator Obama with delegates and popular votes. I want this fight to be over, the quicker the better...I continue to think she is a fantastic and formidable person. But I am first of all a Democrat.""

Wow. Someone actually gets it. Hopefully this will start a solid movement so the nomination can be wrapped up relatively soon.

imagine when she loses everyone from her campaign, but refuses to quit. without any support or organization, she'll just be a crazy lady in a yellow pants suit yelling on the corner.

burndtdan: Car_Ramrod: "We're just bleeding each other out," Guerra-Mondragon told the Washington Post. "Looking at it as coldly as I can, I just don't see how Senator Clinton can overcome Senator Obama with delegates and popular votes. I want this fight to be over, the quicker the better...I continue to think she is a fantastic and formidable person. But I am first of all a Democrat.""

Wow. Someone actually gets it. Hopefully this will start a solid movement so the nomination can be wrapped up relatively soon.

imagine when she loses everyone from her campaign, but refuses to quit. without any support or organization, she'll just be a crazy lady in a yellow pants suit yelling on the corner.

Well, then Bill could get that divorce he always wanted without the alimony Hillary always wanted.

Good. Although I'm am surprised no hispanic humor was injected into this headline.

This is how I think the next 6 weeks will go down.

May 3: Guam runs and they split the delegates 2-2

May 6: Obama wins handidly in North Carolina and wins a close race in Indiana.

May 7-12: 20-30 SD's endorse Obama

May 13: West Virginia goes for Clinton

May 14-20: Obama Picks up another 20-30 SD's

May 21: Obama win Oregon, Clinton wins Kentucky: Obama is within 40 or so Delegates from the Nomination

June 3: Puerto Rico (Clinton), Montana, and South Dakota (Obama) Votes, the Pledged Delegates from those contests pushes Obama above 2025 needed for the nomination.

This way, the electorate "makes the decision" with only a little "help" from the SD's. This makes it so that it is not entirely seen as a SD decision, and it is through election night Obama wins the Delegates necessary to win the nomination.

you'll excuse me while i go YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY.

They just have to make sure the campaign doesn't charging the credit card... (new window)

WOOOOHOOOOO!

One who actually understands what's happening! Awesome!

coolbeans56: This is how I think the next 6 weeks will go down.

May 3: Guam runs and they split the delegates 2-2

May 6: Obama wins handidly in North Carolina and wins a close race in Indiana.

May 7-12: 20-30 SD's endorse Obama

May 13: West Virginia goes for Clinton

May 14-20: Obama Picks up another 20-30 SD's

May 21: Obama win Oregon, Clinton wins Kentucky: Obama is within 40 or so Delegates from the Nomination

June 3: Puerto Rico (Clinton), Montana, and South Dakota (Obama) Votes, the Pledged Delegates from those contests pushes Obama above 2025 needed for the nomination.

This way, the electorate "makes the decision" with only a little "help" from the SD's. This makes it so that it is not entirely seen as a SD decision, and it is through election night Obama wins the Delegates necessary to win the nomination.

please let Puerto Rico be what breaks it.
please.

/i like your theory
//you should work for dean

Where the fark is the hero tag, subbinista?

I think he also picked up another 2 superdelegates this past week. So I think we're finally starting to see a light at the end of the tunnel, with a whole new tunnel opening up...November can't come soon enough.

And the band played on.

FTFA: He added that leaving the Clinton campaign for Obama's "was a very, very difficult decision for me to make. I am an old and longtime friend of Senator Clinton. And I continue to think she is a fantastic and formidable person. But I am first of all a Democrat."

we need more people like that in the news, instead of this shiatstorm tearing the party apart

When her fundraisers start jumping ship for the good of the party, it's all over but the shouting. And considering that it is Hillary we're talking about, there'll be shouting a plenty.

rynthetyn: When her fundraisers start jumping ship for the good of the party, it's all over but the shouting. And considering that it is Hillary we're talking about, there'll be shouting a plenty.

I thought it was "It's all over but the crying," which, in this case, is FAR more likely.

I still think she's gonna break some kneecaps at the convention and steal this thing unless Obama stops saying stupid shiat and the media stop bashing the same horses with the same stick. We'll see.

I'm not sure that (most of) Hillary's enraged shouting will be captured on video, rynthetyn...

Now wait a second, Clinton is still gonna win. You have to count Florida and Michigan in because they will be allowed to be seated and represent themselves at the Democratic Convention. It's not Hillary's fault that Obama forgot to put his name on the ballot in Michigan or wanted to follow stupid rules.

Unfortunately, Hillary had already scheduled several "fund-raising" activities during the time Florida was voting, had to meet the commitments, and was NOT campaigning when the primary took place. Didn't you see her speech in Florida the night she won the primary in those two states? She TOLD you she just happened to be stopping by the state...

/Republican...but I have given Hillary's campaign $100 to enable her to keep the entertainment fight going.
//May vote for Obama
///Hillary - The downfall of the Democratic Party!!

Is this the tide turning?

GoGoGo:
please let Puerto Rico be what breaks it.
please.

/i like your theory
//you should work for dean

It is all about perception. It is the people's choice in the candidate, and not the "final decision" of the SDs. After Obama crosses the threshold with the Pledged Delegates, then the 250 or so other SD's can fall in line.

And thank you for the Dean comment, I will put you down as a reference :-)

One F Jef: I thought it was "It's all over but the crying," which, in this case, is FAR more likely.

I've heard it both ways, I happen to like "shouting" in this case, because I'm sure she'll be cussing everyone from here to kingdom come.


EverWatcher: I'm not sure that (most of) Hillary's enraged shouting will be captured on video, rynthetyn...

Ahh, but wouldn't it be lovely if it was? A girl can dream, can't she? *evilsmirk*

Hillary knows she isn't going to get the nomination. That's no longer why she's in it. The Clinton's have always been willing to destroy the village to save it...they're lawyers - they understand perfectly well about inflicting to cost of judgement on their opponents, and have always played to win at all costs.
Hillary's game now is nothing more than inflicting sufficient harm on Obama to be able to say, after the general election, "I told you so! I told you Obama was not electable!"
And forever more, Hillary Clinton will wear her googly-eyed I was right but you wouldn't listen to me face (much the same way Dubya will forever after wear his Invading Iraq was the right thing to do face).
Good of the party? Good of the country? fark that noise. The ONLY time Hillary Clinton ever did a goddamn thing that was in the country's best interest was when it coincided with Hillary's best interest. Mere coincidence. Only this and nothing more.

/I wanna strangle Wolf Blitzer

Oh...and speaking of that athsmatic, gasping, grunting piece of shiat Wolf Blitzer...
Did anyone catch The Best Political Team on Television last night?
The talking morons (now with new and improved Tony Snow!) were speculating about an Obama/McCain debate. Someone quite reasonably pointed out that McCain is not known for being a strong debater.
Wolf, the ass-kissing, pandering little farkwad, comes back with the comment that McCain MUST be a strong debater, because he won the GOP nomination.
How can anyone argue with brainless, shiat-grinning, Wolf-logic like that?

/wanna strangle Wolf Blitzer twice

Remove all Republicans: I just wonder what Hillary's speech, if any, at the convention will be. It will be interesting to review word-by-word and see all the back-handed compliments she's given him.

we would make a drinking ame of it, but even the most veteran Farkers would end up inthe Hospital.

I wonder what Bill's speech will be like (Usually ex presidents speak as well)

Remove all Republicans: coolbeans56: I wonder what Bill's speech will be like (Usually ex presidents speak as well)

Thank you all for somehow taming the shrew?


I wonder if anyone makes the connection that Hillary is Lady Macbeth....

you know, she went crazy in the end.

So, wait.

Hillary has rabies?

coolbeans56: I wonder if anyone makes the connection that Hillary is Lady Macbeth....

you know, she went crazy in the end.

Out! Out, damn Barack!

I find it kind of baffling that people use electability as a serious criterion for who they decide to vote for. In the first place, it's enormously speculative and completely subjective - your age, your culture, your location, your occupation, your income level, and your circle of friends all influence your perception of political norms immensely. And second, why subvert your desire to see the person you want in the Oval Office because of other peoples' feelings? The assumption seems to be, "I'm intelligent enough to appreciate the subtleties and contradictions that this person embodies, but I don't think anyone else is." That kind of myopic thinking is really easy to get in to after eight years of disillusionment and helplessness. I just think it's arbitrarily negative.

Maybe it's time we stopped assuming the worst about each other and began seeking common ground again - really believing that being an American is a unique privilege with an awesome responsibility that, when met, confers honor and justice back to those who choose to engage it.

I hear that we used to be like that. I hear there was a time when Americans willingly made sacrifices in order to support one another and perfect the union. I'm sure that view is distorted - house-bound 50s mothers didn't have the internet to vent on - but I'm willing to believe that there was a greater sense of belonging to the American community, of being part of something bigger than yourself, that drove people to make sacrifices on behalf of their fellow citizens. And frankly, whether it ever existed or not, I think we can do that again. I think we can unite and do incredible things. That is, I believe we can. I just hope we will.

In other news, I just spent 10 minutes reading the comment section of that article. I don't think I'll ever shiat talk Fark again.

/no promises

hotter than the ads: I find it kind of baffling that people use electability as a serious criterion for who they decide to vote for. In the first place, it's enormously speculative and completely subjective - your age, your culture, your location, your occupation, your income level, and your circle of friends all influence your perception of political norms immensely. And second, why subvert your desire to see the person you want in the Oval Office because of other peoples' feelings? The assumption seems to be, "I'm intelligent enough to appreciate the subtleties and contradictions that this person embodies, but I don't think anyone else is." That kind of myopic thinking is really easy to get in to after eight years of disillusionment and helplessness. I just think it's arbitrarily negative.

Maybe it's time we stopped assuming the worst about each other and began seeking common ground again - really believing that being an American is a unique privilege with an awesome responsibility that, when met, confers honor and justice back to those who choose to engage it.

I hear that we used to be like that. I hear there was a time when Americans willingly made sacrifices in order to support one another and perfect the union. I'm sure that view is distorted - house-bound 50s mothers didn't have the internet to vent on - but I'm willing to believe that there was a greater sense of belonging to the American community, of being part of something bigger than yourself, that drove people to make sacrifices on behalf of their fellow citizens. And frankly, whether it ever existed or not, I think we can do that again. I think we can unite and do incredible things. That is, I believe we can. I just hope we will.

In other news, I just spent 10 minutes reading the comment section of that article. I don't think I'll ever shiat talk Fark again.

/no promises

So, what office are you running for? I'd vote for you.

listen, I don't believe that Hillary is trying to tear the party apart. In fact, the whole process *could* be fantastic for the dems. Each state, one after the other, is absolutely vital and really revitalizes the democratic base. Each "large" state this continues on through will have a tremendous number of people who have a precedent-voting for a democratic candidate.

bush is getting a pass with the news, however. We're just a young kid with a picture of a shiny new bicycle we want for christmas hanging in a locker. Once we remember to pay attention to him it'll be a different story. Once we realize that the type of republicans who lost the 2006 elections would gain power again with McCain as president, its over.

Obama in a landslide against McCain(barring, for example, serious racial divides emerging). The 24 hours after he wins the nomination will be the biggest fundraiser in the history of politics. 30 million easily, if hillary can get nearly 10 after that last primary. But 50, 60 million, even more possibly.

I fail to see how this is "tearing apart the party". In fact, the ongoing crazyness of Hillary keeps both Obama and Hillary's names in the media, which is quite frankly, what they need to win. Hillary's dogged determinism has all but turned the Democratic nomination into the general election.

Most people have forgotten about whatsisname, the Republican candidate. And if they're not thinking about him, they're not going to vote for him.

Furthermore, while Hillary keeps slinging as much mud at Obama as she can, she weakens any attacks that the Republicans might use. By the time the Republicans start competing with Obama, they'll have no fuel for their infamous smear machine.

I think Obama is right. Let her keep campaigning. It's not "tearing the party apart", it's getting voters to come out and concentrate on the elections. Furthermore, while idiots may say that if XXX wins, they're not going to vote for him/her, but that is idiotic. Their platforms are nearly identical, and if you're actually voting for what you think is best for your country, as a true patriot, it shouldn't matter who wins the nomination. And any brand of crazy would probably be better than the Republican brand, and I suspect most people will come around and see that point.

Someone tell Hillary I'm drinking her milkshake

fark it. I'll tell her myself.

DamnYankees: Good. Although I'm am surprised no hispanic humor was injected into this headline.

Because maybe we want to have a discussion about it like adults and not make it about the guy's race? I dunno.

Third Day Mark: DamnYankees: Good. Although I'm am surprised no hispanic humor was injected into this headline.

Because maybe we want to have a discussion about it like adults and not make it about the guy's race? I dunno.

I sorry, I dialed Fark.com...who is this?

Chilwnt

tatum: The Clinton's have always been willing to destroy the village to save it...they're lawyers - they understand perfectly well about inflicting to cost of judgement on their opponents, and have always played to win at all costs.

What if I told you Obama is a lawyer too?

Just for sn'g, how many delegates have crossed over to Hillary?

starsrift: I fail to see how this is "tearing apart the party". In fact, the ongoing crazyness of Hillary keeps both Obama and Hillary's names in the media, which is quite frankly, what they need to win. Hillary's dogged determinism has all but turned the Democratic nomination into the general election.

Yep Hillary is a troll. By forcing Obama, and the American public to pay attention to her senseless ranting she has prolonged the life of this election just as a troll prolongs the life of a thread.

In both cases its good for clicks and clicks = money. Hillary is providing economic stimulus to our nation when we desperately need it. So we should all be grateful she's a troll.

please Buddha be merciful and let this idiocy end soon

lolmao666: Obama will win the nomination but will have Hillary as VP, he'll say that the party is above differences or something like that... so to unite the party to ``change`` and beat McCain, he'll run with Hillary.

JUST WATCH

A black man running for president with HILLARY as VP? Barack would have to have a death wish.

RemyDuron: A black man running for president with HILLARY as VP? Barack would have to have a death wish.

Not to mention having your administration answerable to whatever fool thing Bill says next or does with his dick.

Mr. Mojo: So, what office are you running for? I'd vote for you.

You'll have to move from Texas, but keep a wary eye on Maria Cantwell's Senate seat . . . ;)

/someday, public servants will take this nation back

coolbeans56

That seems like a good way for it to go down. If I was in the DNC I'd be pushing for that. I'm not sure if that's how they'll let it go but it is the most reasonable way.

Once her superdelegates start leaving for Obama it is going to look BAD.