The ad ties Obama to his controversial former pastor, the Rev. Jeremiah Wright, whose fiery sermons circulated on the Internet last month, causing a political firestorm. "For 20 years, Barack Obama sat in his pew, listening to his pastor," an announcer says as the ad opens. Wright then appears onscreen, saying, "No, no, no. Not God Bless America. God Damn America!" Later the ad says that Obama "is just too extreme for North Carolina."

I really wish they could be sued for slander...

And where is Hillary asking for them to stop attacking a fellow democrat? Oh yeah, she's probably thankful for the help in tearing Obama down.

Notice how quiet the GOP has been about Hillary. Not a peep. Barely a mention. Like she's invisible. They are attacking Obama at every turn, trying to defeat him before the primaries are over and the convention is a done deal. Not a peep toward Hillary. Barely a blip on the radar.

Do you wonder why? I know why. They have such a pile of shiat to lump on her, that it will stink up the entire Northern Hemisphere. But they are smart. Help her get the nom. Then DESTROY HER. I mean DESTROY. Lesbian, communist, murderer, atheist, corrupt, evil. You name it, they will sling it and sling it hard. And it will stick. The more outrageously outlandish, the better.

That is why the GOP is rooting for Hillary.

Only a godless Muslim would go to a church like Rev. Wright's.

Later the ad says that Obama "is just too extreme for North Carolina."

Yes...North Carolina is well known for its opposition to extremists.

PC LOAD LETTER: Notice how quiet the GOP has been about Hillary. Not a peep. Barely a mention. Like she's invisible. They are attacking Obama at every turn, trying to defeat him before the primaries are over and the convention is a done deal. Not a peep toward Hillary. Barely a blip on the radar.

Do you wonder why? I know why. They have such a pile of shiat to lump on her, that it will stink up the entire Northern Hemisphere. But they are smart. Help her get the nom. Then DESTROY HER. I mean DESTROY. Lesbian, communist, murderer, atheist, corrupt, evil. You name it, they will sling it and sling it hard. And it will stick. The more outrageously outlandish, the better.

That is why the GOP is rooting for Hillary.

No duh. It's not his darkness that scares them, it's his electability.

McCain:Hagee
Obama:Wright



Somehow, this will come back in the end..

PC LOAD LETTER: Notice how quiet the GOP has been about Hillary. Not a peep. Barely a mention. Like she's invisible. They are attacking Obama at every turn, trying to defeat him before the primaries are over and the convention is a done deal. Not a peep toward Hillary. Barely a blip on the radar.

Do you wonder why? I know why. They have such a pile of shiat to lump on her, that it will stink up the entire Northern Hemisphere. But they are smart. Help her get the nom. Then DESTROY HER. I mean DESTROY. Lesbian, communist, murderer, atheist, corrupt, evil. You name it, they will sling it and sling it hard. And it will stick. The more outrageously outlandish, the better.

That is why the GOP is rooting for Hillary.

I'm thinking a lot of the Hillary smears will just be "nothing new" while Obama might have a few skeletons in his closet that haven't been shaken out.

elchip: I'm thinking a lot of the Hillary smears will just be "nothing new" while Obama might have a few skeletons in his closet that haven't been shaken out.

I haven't seen you in a while, btw.

Regardless, the big one to watch out for is the lesbian thing. Rumor is that it has some serious legs. Plus the fact that the other woman is hot will only be the perfect storm. They will go after Bill's impropriety just as much, too. For the most part, you are right, though: old stuff. Doesn't mean it won't stick, however.

PC LOAD LETTER: Regardless, the big one to watch out for is the lesbian thing. Rumor is that it has some serious legs.

Well that's a relief! I'd hate to think that she was farking Heather Mills.

I've seen that ignorant shrew from the North Carolina Republicans who won't yank the ad. She keeps saying, in this irritating school marm voice, that they have their local races and concerns that justify the ad.

When asked point blank why they don't then instead talk about those local races and concerns, and her interview screen went blank.

She did come back but she still didn't adequately explain why, by anyone's standards.

PC LOAD LETTER: Notice how quiet the GOP has been about Hillary. Not a peep. Barely a mention. Like she's invisible. They are attacking Obama at every turn, trying to defeat him before the primaries are over and the convention is a done deal. Not a peep toward Hillary. Barely a blip on the radar.

Do you wonder why? I know why. They have such a pile of shiat to lump on her, that it will stink up the entire Northern Hemisphere. But they are smart. Help her get the nom. Then DESTROY HER. I mean DESTROY. Lesbian, communist, murderer, atheist, corrupt, evil. You name it, they will sling it and sling it hard. And it will stick. The more outrageously outlandish, the better.

That is why the GOP is rooting for Hillary.

They have been waiting for this moment for the last 10 years, salivating over it. They aren't going to blow their wad for the Democratic primary.

elchip: I'm thinking a lot of the Hillary smears will just be "nothing new" while Obama might have a few skeletons in his closet that haven't been shaken out.

This is exactly why they wanted her to run. They have been attacking her for years, giving them plenty of time to go in depth on any issue, from Vince Foster to Hillarycare. They want her to run so that their base turns out; they want her to run because they already have all the dirt and won't have to do any more work; they want her to run because they expected it and have sunk thousands of hours of airtime into bashing her. She plays right into their hands by continuing to be divisive and by continuing to lie right to the electorate. The right needs a polarizing figure like Hillary in the general election so that the values voters will turn out to vote for anti-gay marriage initiatives and conservative judges. They are trying to paint Obama as one of these figures because they know Hillary's chance is gone. This is why they don't talk about Hillary anymore.

Now that Hillary is all best buddies with Richard Mellon Scaife for some ungodly reason, who knows what really slimy shiat they'll come out with for Obama and/or McCain.

CravenMorehead: And where is Hillary asking for them to stop attacking a fellow democrat? Oh yeah, she's probably thankful for the help in tearing Obama down.

Does anyone think Hillary has a chance against McCain? Even if you don't like McCain, he really does have some integrity.

DamnYankees: CravenMorehead: And where is Hillary asking for them to stop attacking a fellow democrat? Oh yeah, she's probably thankful for the help in tearing Obama down.

Does anyone think Hillary has a chance against McCain? Even if you don't like McCain, he really does have some integrity.

Like hell he does. He lost it back when he acknowledged that torture is an acceptable method of interrogation. He lost it when he jumped ship from his moderate positions in favor of hard-line GOP positions when he had to get re-elected in 2004, and to get any support in this presidential campaign. McCain, more than even Hillary, will say anything to anyone as long as it gets him votes. He has no integrity.

cousin-merle: PC LOAD LETTER: Notice how quiet the GOP has been about Hillary. Not a peep. Barely a mention. Like she's invisible. They are attacking Obama at every turn, trying to defeat him before the primaries are over and the convention is a done deal. Not a peep toward Hillary. Barely a blip on the radar.

Do you wonder why? I know why. They have such a pile of shiat to lump on her, that it will stink up the entire Northern Hemisphere. But they are smart. Help her get the nom. Then DESTROY HER. I mean DESTROY. Lesbian, communist, murderer, atheist, corrupt, evil. You name it, they will sling it and sling it hard. And it will stick. The more outrageously outlandish, the better.

That is why the GOP is rooting for Hillary.

They have been waiting for this moment for the last 10 years, salivating over it. They aren't going to blow their wad for the Democratic primary.

elchip: I'm thinking a lot of the Hillary smears will just be "nothing new" while Obama might have a few skeletons in his closet that haven't been shaken out.

This is exactly why they wanted her to run. They have been attacking her for years, giving them plenty of time to go in depth on any issue, from Vince Foster to Hillarycare. They want her to run so that their base turns out; they want her to run because they already have all the dirt and won't have to do any more work; they want her to run because they expected it and have sunk thousands of hours of airtime into bashing her. She plays right into their hands by continuing to be divisive and by continuing to lie right to the electorate. The right needs a polarizing figure like Hillary in the general election so that the values voters will turn out to vote for anti-gay marriage initiatives and conservative judges. They are trying to paint Obama as one of these figures because they know Hillary's chance is gone. This is why they don't talk about Hillary anymore.

Oh yeah, if you think we've seen everything the RNC has in its files on Hillary, you're sadly mistaken. It's gonna be nasty.

jake_lex: Oh yeah, if you think we've seen everything the RNC has in its files on Hillary, you're sadly mistaken. It's gonna be nasty.

Oh, I don't think that we've seen everything they have on her. That's why I think they have been hungry for this campaign. I can feel it when I listen to the AM radio. I just meant that most of the attacks aren't just already out there, but have had 10 years to ferment and expand. Any new controversy that Obama can become involved in will pale in comparison to stuff like Vince Foster. I swear there are people who have the entire list of people the Clintons "killed" memorized.

Nudge nudge



Wink wink

PC LOAD LETTER: Regardless, the big one to watch out for is the lesbian thing. Rumor is that it has some serious legs. Plus the fact that the other woman is hot

This is so far the only reason I would vote for Hillary.

DamnYankees: Even if you don't like McCain, he really does have some integrity.

I used to like McCain. Now when I think of him all I can see is this:

Kinda two faced. Don't question Obama's patriotism, but it's OK for McCain to state in an interview that he is the candidate Hamas prefers, and you can draw your own conclusions?

/facepalm

Gee, the Republicans are willing to sabotage the other party's primary to undermine the winner and ultimately send this country into 3rd world territory, just so they can have all the power.

Sound familiar? I could name at least 20 countries where this has happened and not even get to the equally legitimate question, "You know who else...?"

/Not new: Someone willing to throw their country under the bus for power.
//Not new: That it's happening in the U.S.
///New: That they're being so blatant about it, yet no one is even trying to stop it.

Chris Wallace@Faux Noise

The Obama Clock was obnoxious and effective.

Shame on Obama for embiggening the propaganda.

I think we can all see the pattern here - McCain's surrogates sling the worst kind of mud, while he stays above the fray and tsk-tsk's. Hagee, Bob Cunningham, and now this. And the best part is that the media will pretend like they have no idea what's happening.

Ex-Republican: DamnYankees: Even if you don't like McCain, he really does have some integrity.

I used to like McCain. Now when I think of him all I can see is this:



Now THAT is a man-hug.

/ewww

Diogenes: I've seen that ignorant shrew from the North Carolina Republicans who won't yank the ad. She keeps saying, in this irritating school marm voice, that they have their local races and concerns that justify the ad.

When asked point blank why they don't then instead talk about those local races and concerns, and her interview screen went blank.

She did come back but she still didn't adequately explain why, by anyone's standards.

someone had to feed her the answer to the question. they pulled the plug on her because she looked like a deer in the headlights when asked the question. It caught her totally off guard for the media to question her. They are supposed to stay on message not ask republicans hard questions.

At the risk of TLDR: This whole fiasco was exploded in a post on Slate.

"I think you've got it backwards with your interpretation of McCain's letter.

As the Boston Globe story you linked to with respect to Bush vs. McCain in 2000, it wasn't the Bush "campaign" that attacked McCain over the alleged out-of-wedlock daughter, it was "anonymous pollsters." Bush got the best of both worlds, as a result: McCain is damaged but Bush retains plausible deniability, since he could claim that he wasn't responsible for the attacks.

Obama's reaction seems on-target. If John McCain and the RNC really wanted the ad taken off the air, it would be. If they didn't want it aired, it wouldn't have been. As the party's presumptive new leader, the NC GOP wouldn't ignore with McCain said, unless it was said with a wink at the same time. Similarly, the NC GOP isn't going to want to piss off the RNC, especially since the RNC is the only Republican committee that has significantly outraised its Democratic counterpart (unlike the congressional and senate campaign committees), and the NC GOP will want some of those resources.

Rather, what you're going to see throughout the election is a replay of this over and over: non-McCain/RNC group uses racist/ xenophobic/ dishonest/ misleading/ fear-mongering ad > McCain and RNC demand that the ad be taken off the air and repudiate it > ad may or may not be taken off the air (really irrelevant at this point) > ad is replayed hundreds of times by Fox News, CNN, MSNBC, the Daily Show/Colbert Report, and any other outlet.

McCain then gets to take credit for taking the high route (which you gave in your post), bolsters his reputation as a maverick/"a different kind of Republican" and yet still benefits because the ad is still out there hurting Obama, and the best part is, now Republicans don't even have to pay for it to be aired, the media does it for them free of charge.

Its the model set by the famous LBJ ad showing a mushroom cloud with the phrase "In your heart, you know he might" referring to Goldwater using nukes in the cold war. It was only aired once by the Johnson campaign, but is the most famous political ad in history because it was so outrageous that even when it was pulled from the air, it was all anyone talked about. With today's mass media echo chamber, this kind of a strategy for getting a message out there is even more effective."

DamnYankees: Even if you don't like McCain, he really does have some integrity.

Sources and follow-ups on said sources?

I heard the head of NCs GOP party on NPR the other day, and she just soudns like a horrible, vile, evil evil woman. More so then HilRod, even.

It really made me ;(

abuttino: McCain:Hagee
Obama:Wright



Somehow, this will come back in the end..

Don't forget Hillary Clinton's weird little group. They're a lot creepier than Wright who really isn't all that controversial (preacher preaching conspiracy theories aren't really that rare) and Hagee who really has little influence with McCain (not like McCain attended his church). "The Fellowship" is even creepier, and is secretive and cultlike instead of being out in the open like Hagee and Wright.

here's the video of that exchange. notice her expression when Contessa calls her BS and then they pull the plug. It's like that time they pulled the plug on Colin Powell when Russert was talking to him.

quickdraw:
Well that's a relief! I'd hate to think that she was farking Heather Mills.

..what you did there
I see it

IlGreven: Gee, the Republicans are willing to sabotage the other party's primary to undermine the winner and ultimately send this country into 3rd world territory, just so they can have all the power.

Sound familiar? I could name at least 20 countries where this has happened and not even get to the equally legitimate question, "You know who else...?"

/Not new: Someone willing to throw their country under the bus for power.
//Not new: That it's happening in the U.S.
///New: That they're being so blatant about it, yet no one is even trying to stop it.

I'd like to not even have to consider this, but I have.

I'm hoping that this can be disproved.

Still concerned.

Now, my friends: I'm not saying Obama is a 'Muslim' or 'Hates America'. I mean, just because he has a Racist Preacher doesn't mean that he is the next Saddam Hussein...



Obama... Muslim... Hates America... Racist... Hussein
Obama... Muslim... Hates America... Racist... Hussein Obama... Muslim... Hates America... Racist... Hussein Obama... Muslim... Hates America... Racist... Hussein Obama... Muslim... Hates America... Racist... Hussein

Do your representatives support our troops?

Find out at

http://www.gibill2008.org/state.html (pops)

Obama should just embrace his pastor of the last 20 years. What's all the hub-bub? The man just told America to go to hell, America deserved 9/11 and that AIDS was created by the Government to kill black men all from the church pulpit. What is so outlandish about that? I am sure your religious leader has said the same thing. Get over it already!!!

Lionel Mandrake: Later the ad says that Obama "is just too extreme for North Carolina."

Yes...North Carolina is well known for its opposition to extremists.

Hah! No shiat, NC had to be one of the most farked up places I have ever lived. My wife and I said the sate motto should be, "North Carolina, poorly planned!"

I love how the article claims Reverend Wright's sermons have been all over the internet. Not so much, but little cherry picked snippets have been plastered all over right wing blogs and Fixed News.

I have seen some of his comments in broader context and don't see the problem, but then I am not a hysterical, bitter neo-con.

Rovian: Do your representatives support our troops?

Find out at

http://www.gibill2008.org/state.html (pops)

unless youre actually sending money to war widows or sending supplies to soldiers you're not supporting the troops. just saying you support the troops deosnt mean a farking thing.

soy_bomb: Obama should just embrace his pastor of the last 20 years. What's all the hub-bub? The man just told America to go to hell, America deserved 9/11 and that AIDS was created by the Government to kill black men all from the church pulpit. What is so outlandish about that? I am sure your religious leader has said the same thing. Get over it already!!!

Ah yes, just like Jerry Falwell, Pat Robertson, and Fred Phelps have said concerning 9/11. Oooooohhhhhh, that was because they pinned it on the ghey, and that is okey dokey with you, I am sure.

Now that someone has pinned it on Whitey, well...that is preposterous.

cfish78: Rovian: Do your representatives support our troops?

Find out at

http://www.gibill2008.org/state.html (pops)

unless youre actually sending money to war widows or sending supplies to soldiers you're not supporting the troops. just saying you support the troops deosnt mean a farking thing.

I am thinking that voting against the new GI Bill says a lot.

Yeah, baby!

Stop talking about that crazy racist preacher Obama goes to for guidance since it's not important that he's a crazy racist preacher because we don't care about some crazy racist preacher friend of Obama's who happens to be a crazy racist preacher.

He must've been watching the Dems in the last elections, what with Cheney's lesbian daughter, who happens to be a lesbian, though the fact that Cheney has a lesbian daughter should not affect anyuone concerned about Cheney having a lesbian daughter, who's Cheney's daughter and a lesbian.

soy_bomb: Obama should just embrace his pastor of the last 20 years.

He already did, while unequivocally rejecting, in detail, the three-minute clip that keeps getting played.

soy_bomb: What's all the hub-bub?

Tools like you who will keep bringing up the three-minute clip, no matter what anyone else, especially Senator Obama, says or does.

cfish78

The website logs endorsements for the new GI bill. Support our troops!

Just a taste my friends. Those ads are going to be run in Ohio and Pennsylvania and Florida and Iowa etc. Obama's chickens have come home to roost.

Ryan2065: The ad ties Obama to his controversial former pastor, the Rev. Jeremiah Wright, whose fiery sermons circulated on the Internet last month, causing a political firestorm. "For 20 years, Barack Obama sat in his pew, listening to his pastor," an announcer says as the ad opens. Wright then appears onscreen, saying, "No, no, no. Not God Bless America. God Damn America!" Later the ad says that Obama "is just too extreme for North Carolina."

I really wish they could be sued for slander...

for an opinion - you=fail.

Its a rather blatant spin but nothing unfactual was said. Obama did attend the church, wright did make the remarks and the too extreme for NC is opinion.

So you just wish to outlaw any opinion other than your own and any facts that don't agree with your worldview. Maybe you should take another look at the Bush Administration, they like guys like you.

Hang On Voltaire: Just a taste my friends. Those ads are going to be run in Ohio and Pennsylvania and Florida and Iowa etc. Obama's chickens have come home to roost.

GOOOOO TEAM!

Getting to the bottom of Obama's beliefs is a reasonable line of questioning. He claims to not be a Muslim, yet he spent years studying at a Madrassa.

Barak H. Obama. What is the true story?

Shaggy_C:

GOOOOO TEAM!

Last night I was just wondering why it is so incumbent on Obama supporters to support not just Obama but what Rev Wright said. Even Obama isn't supporting what Wright said. So spare me the "Go team" talk

Hang On Voltaire: Last night I was just wondering why it is so incumbent on Obama supporters to support not just Obama but what Rev Wright said.

I disagree more with his fear of sky ghost than many of his 'controversial' ideas about the oppression of black america.