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(Charlotte) Interesting "Since the Civil War only four Democrats-Jimmy Carter, Lyndon Johnson, Franklin Roosevelt and Samuel Tilden-have won a majority of the popular vote"   (charlotte.com) divider line 62
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robsul82 [TotalFark] 2008-04-25 12:22:07 PM  
Tilden got robbed too. Went to his grave knowing Rutherford B. Hayes stole, guess which state, Florida from him.

 
BladBoy [TotalFark] 2008-04-25 12:31:09 PM  
Written by Associate Professor Robert D. Stacey, Robertson School of Government, Regent University.

Regent University is a private coeducational interdenominational Christian university located in Virginia Beach, Virginia, USA. The school was founded by the American televangelist Pat Robertson in 1978 as CBN University. Plans for the university (originally named CBN University) began in 1978 by Christian Broadcasting Network founder and current Chancellor Pat Robertson. In 1990, the name was changed to Regent University.[6] The university's name is designed to reference a regent, who is someone that exercises the ruling power in a kingdom during the minority, absence, or disability of the sovereign. The university's current motto is "Christian Leadership to Change the World".


Call me when you have the viewpoint of someone that doesn't work for Pat "Hurricanes for Homos" Robertson, mmmmkay. Thanks.

 
Abzzstain [TotalFark] 2008-04-25 12:41:35 PM  
What about Al Gore?

 
Raisin Conspiracy [TotalFark] 2008-04-25 12:41:46 PM  
Hurricanes for Homos

That's a great punk band I saw the other night.

 
Watchman [TotalFark] 2008-04-25 12:43:55 PM  
Raisin Conspiracy: That's a great punk band I saw the other night.

They cover Blowin' in the Wind?

 
corsec67 [TotalFark] 2008-04-25 12:49:53 PM  
Abzzstain: What about Al Gore?

Al Gore only got 48.4% of the popular vote in 2000.

 
burndtdan 2008-04-25 12:52:27 PM  
Raisin Conspiracy: That's a great punk band I saw the other night.

what about the shiatty beatles?

1heckofaguy.com

 
Cagey B [TotalFark] 2008-04-25 02:02:56 PM  
The infamy of the rapscallion Hayes knows no boundaries. That bearded icon of treachery will get his comeuppance some day.

 
Sybarite [TotalFark] 2008-04-25 02:06:38 PM  
The last to do so was Carter, who won a whopping 50.1 percent of the votes in 1976.

And four years later Reagan won with a whopping 50.7%

 
bronyaur1 [TotalFark] 2008-04-25 02:08:08 PM  
BladBoy: Written by Associate Professor Robert D. Stacey, Robertson School of Government, Regent University.

Regent University is a private coeducational interdenominational Christian university located in Virginia Beach, Virginia, USA. The school was founded by the American televangelist Pat Robertson in 1978 as CBN University. Plans for the university (originally named CBN University) began in 1978 by Christian Broadcasting Network founder and current Chancellor Pat Robertson. In 1990, the name was changed to Regent University.[6] The university's name is designed to reference a regent, who is someone that exercises the ruling power in a kingdom during the minority, absence, or disability of the sovereign. The university's current motto is "Christian Leadership to Change the World".


Call me when you have the viewpoint of someone that doesn't work for Pat "Hurricanes for Homos" Robertson, mmmmkay. Thanks.


Thread over.

 
Bill_Wick's_Friend 2008-04-25 02:20:58 PM  
Is this a scorecard?

If so, it should note that FDR did it four times in a row.

And it should note that that Dixiecrats (X2), Ross Perot (X2), Harry Byrd, Progressives and Socialists (1914 -- look it up) played spoiler in various elections which ensured that no party took a majority of the popular vote.

 
GAT_00 [TotalFark] 2008-04-25 02:26:01 PM  
That's interesting. I went and looked up all the Republican wins since Lincoln, and most of them were majority wins. It is worth noting that some of the worst US presidents, as ranked by historians, won by majorities in popular vote: George W. Bush, Richard Nixon, Herbert Hoover, Calvin Coolidge and Warren G. Harding. So bragging about their wins isn't worth much.

 
Cagey B [TotalFark] 2008-04-25 02:37:25 PM  
GAT_00: That's interesting. I went and looked up all the Republican wins since Lincoln, and most of them were majority wins. It is worth noting that some of the worst US presidents, as ranked by historians, won by majorities in popular vote: George W. Bush, Richard Nixon, Herbert Hoover, Calvin Coolidge and Warren G. Harding. So bragging about their wins isn't worth much.

Careful there. I've actually encountered Coolidge apologists on the internet.

 
hillbillypharmacist [TotalFark] 2008-04-25 02:48:55 PM  
GAT_00: Calvin Coolidge

You dis Coolidge and you dis yourself. Step off.

 
satchel13 2008-04-25 03:14:44 PM  
Sybarite: The last to do so was Carter, who won a whopping 50.1 percent of the votes in 1976.

And four years later Reagan won with a whopping 50.7%


In 1984 Reagan improved to 58.8%

 
burndtdan 2008-04-25 03:25:56 PM  
hillbillypharmacist: GAT_00: Calvin Coolidge

You dis Coolidge and you dis yourself. Step off.


i gotta say, i've never heard anything negative about coolidge. i'm no presidential scholar, though.

 
Summa Crapologica [TotalFark] 2008-04-25 04:56:52 PM  
News flash: The American electorate doesn't often totally agree on everything! In fact, they rarely if ever agree on anything! Getting 50% of Americans to agree on you is actually kind of impressive, no matter what party you are from.

 
quatchi 2008-04-25 05:06:58 PM  
RE: Hurricanes For Homos

Raisin Conspiracy: That's a great punk band I saw the other night.

Watchman: They cover Blowin' in the Wind?


Narf!

Who watches the Watchman?

Quatchi does!

Dude is funny!!

 
The Kitchen Ninja 2008-04-25 05:07:53 PM  
Jeremy Bates: This just in: The majority of Americans are farking goddamn morons.

And that's something most everyone can agree with!

/ironic?

 
Senescent Dawn 2008-04-25 05:08:30 PM  
hillbillypharmacist: GAT_00: Calvin Coolidge

You dis Coolidge and you dis yourself. Step off.


I'll bet you that I can find three Coolidge supporters in this thread who agree with you.

 
RockIsDead 2008-04-25 05:08:36 PM  
Cagey B: Careful there. I've actually encountered Coolidge apologists on the internet.

They thought you were dis'n Coolio.

 
Lawnchair 2008-04-25 05:10:55 PM  
Which is why I get so tired of the "Bill Clinton was the greatest politician of our age" speech. A smaller percentage of the electorate affirmatively selected Bill in 1992 than voted for Dukakis, Gore, Kerry, W (either time), or Adlai Stevenson. This is reflected in the fact that the Dems lost seats in 1992, and were slaughtered in 1994. People didn't actually like Clinton that much, and he only won because Perot siphoned off typically Republican demographics. After four years of economic growth and peace, the incumbent Bill Clinton still didn't get a majority of people to vote for him.

Yet, a lot of people think that Bill was widely beloved, and that his less personable, less natural-politician wife is somehow going to do better than all that?

 
xuanzhiyouxuan 2008-04-25 05:12:21 PM  
Cagey B: The infamy of the rapscallion Hayes knows no boundaries. That bearded icon of treachery will get his comeuppance some day.

newsimg.bbc.co.uk

 
Clonod 2008-04-25 05:14:44 PM  
Senescent Dawn

I'll bet you that I can find three Coolidge supporters in this thread who agree with you.

You lose.

 
fosborb 2008-04-25 05:15:38 PM  
Yeah, but FDR won the popular vote so hard they had to amend the Constitution.

 
Number41 2008-04-25 05:16:02 PM  
Lawnchair: Yet, a lot of people think that Bill was widely beloved,

He did alright for himself.

 
Wolf_Blitzer 2008-04-25 05:18:39 PM  
lolmao666: .... and all were failures! Except Roosevelt.

Carter with his inflation, hostage crisis hoax, iran-contra, Al-CIADA creation... Johnson who was involved in the killing of JFK, gulf of tonkin, vietnam, USS liberty... yeah what a farking genius. Clinton, the gun grabbing, Kosovo war, iraq embargo killing hundreds of thousands of iraqi children, Waco, OKC inside job, WTC attacks inside job...

Democrats presidents are AS WORSE as republicans presidents, you better GET IT.


They run out of tinfoil in your neck of the woods lately?

 
Lawnchair 2008-04-25 05:26:26 PM  
Number41: Lawnchair: Yet, a lot of people think that Bill was widely beloved,

He did alright for himself.


Indeed. Still, a little odd that an incumbent president with a 60% approval rating at the time couldn't break 50% at the voting booth. Makes you wonder how HRC, whose "negatives" ratings are substantially higher than Bill's ever was in his worst day, would fare in November.

 
BMulligan 2008-04-25 05:27:51 PM  
lolmao666:

.... and all were failures! Except Roosevelt.

Carter with his inflation, hostage crisis hoax, iran-contra, Al-CIADA creation... Johnson who was involved in the killing of JFK, gulf of tonkin, vietnam, USS liberty... yeah what a farking genius. Clinton, the gun grabbing, Kosovo war, iraq embargo killing hundreds of thousands of iraqi children, Waco, OKC inside job, WTC attacks inside job...


I'm surprised you gave Roosevelt a pass, what with him having orchestrated Pearl Harbor and all.

/Dumbass.

 
nopokerface [TotalFark] 2008-04-25 05:33:17 PM  
BMulligan: I'm surprised you gave Roosevelt a pass, what with him having orchestrated Pearl Harbor and all.

There's a better case for that one than most of the ones he listed.

 
elchip [TotalFark] 2008-04-25 05:34:30 PM  
American politics was completely dominated by Republican presidents between Lincoln and FDR, with two exceptions: Cleveland and Wilson.

And really, it's a matter of third parties hogging up some of the vote, making it hard for anyone to get a majority.

Finally, the Democrats of pre-FDR have next to nothing in common with the Democrats of post-FDR.

 
tomhath 2008-04-25 05:35:13 PM  
BMulligan I'm surprised you gave Roosevelt a pass...

I think you just fed a troll.

 
Tartha De Tear [TotalFark] 2008-04-25 05:35:13 PM  
lolmao666: Carter with his inflation, hostage crisis hoax, iran-contra, Al-CIADA creation... Johnson who was involved in the killing of JFK, gulf of tonkin, vietnam, USS liberty... yeah what a farking genius. Clinton, the gun grabbing, Kosovo war, iraq embargo killing hundreds of thousands of iraqi children, Waco, OKC inside job, WTC attacks inside job...

Democrats presidents are AS WORSE as republicans presidents, you better GET IT.


If you're trying to get a giggle out of me, consider it "Mission Accomplished".

For a troll, that is waaaay too over the top.

 
Jim_Callahan 2008-04-25 05:35:32 PM  
robsul82: Tilden got robbed too. Went to his grave knowing Rutherford B. Hayes stole, guess which state, Florida from him.

If I recall, that was a cooperative deal between the parties. Or rather, there were a few low-profile meetings and then mysteriously one party stopped pushing for the presidency and let the dispute go to the other guy, and the other party significantly reduced the screwage tehy were putting the southern states through in the name of reconstruction.

So not really a 'steal' so much as a 'swap'.

 
pivazena 2008-04-25 05:37:26 PM  
Okay I know it's a bit of a threadjack, but that "BladBoy: Pat "Hurricanes for Homos" Robertson comment is an appropriate platform to launch from.

Why is it not okay for Obama's former pastor to say that given what we see in america today, god is not blessing America, god is damning America, but it IS okay for Pat Robertson and the like to say that we get hit by natural disasters and by terrorists because of our evil liberal gay-tolerant ways?

 
thenateman 2008-04-25 05:37:34 PM  
BladBoy: Call me when you have the viewpoint of someone that doesn't work for Pat "Hurricanes for Homos" Robertson, mmmmkay. Thanks.

TFA recaps historic election results. I see how you'd find the results uncomfortable. But unless he's factually wrong, your indictment is meaningless.

 
PerfectlyCromulent 2008-04-25 05:37:57 PM  
BMulligan: lolmao666:

.... and all were failures! Except Roosevelt.

Carter with his inflation, hostage crisis hoax, iran-contra, Al-CIADA creation... Johnson who was involved in the killing of JFK, gulf of tonkin, vietnam, USS liberty... yeah what a farking genius. Clinton, the gun grabbing, Kosovo war, iraq embargo killing hundreds of thousands of iraqi children, Waco, OKC inside job, WTC attacks inside job...

I'm surprised you gave Roosevelt a pass, what with him having orchestrated Pearl Harbor and all.

/Dumbass.


I think he's a troll and trying to hook people into going "ZOMG ROOSVELT SUKKKED LOLZ!1"

That seems to come up a lot in threads about ranking presidents.

 
I_AM_M 2008-04-25 05:41:22 PM  
Who cares? The GOP and every supporter is the enemy of the nation. There is no greater threat to liberty or any free society than the GOP.

 
PC LOAD LETTER [TotalFark] 2008-04-25 05:48:40 PM  
Only since Woodrow Wilson has the Democratic party aligned itself with the Progressives, so fark off.

 
1000Monkeys 2008-04-25 05:56:46 PM  
But what about pluralities?

 
BMulligan 2008-04-25 05:57:52 PM  
tomhath:

I think you just fed a troll.

You're probably right. You must admit, though, sometimes it's hard to tell.

 
Hat Madder 2008-04-25 05:59:08 PM  
I_AM_M There is no greater threat to liberty or any free society than the GOP.

Well, except for the Socialists who are fighting for the Democratic nomination.

 
Bugs_Bunny_Practiced_Psychological_Warfare 2008-04-25 06:01:49 PM  
corsec67: Abzzstain: What about Al Gore?

Al Gore only got 48.4% of the popular vote in 2000.


Try looking up the National Archives there, failure.

 
PlasticMoby 2008-04-25 06:18:21 PM  
Clonod: You lose.

Now that's obscure. I'd be shocked if anyone else gets it.

 
Spanky_McFarksalot 2008-04-25 06:21:12 PM  
"Since the Civil War only four Democrats...have won a majority of the popular vote"

Soooo, what you're saying is that it can be done?

 
attackingpencil 2008-04-25 06:36:35 PM  
PlasticMoby: Clonod: You lose.

Now that's obscure. I'd be shocked if anyone else gets it.


Are you kidding? I heard that story like 50 times in elementary school.

 
Wraithbane 2008-04-25 06:43:02 PM  
Bugs_Bunny_Practiced_Psychological_Warfare
Try looking up the National Archives there, failure

Um, you might want to look yourself. Is there a greater failure than a "failure" failure?

From the National Archives, 2000 Presidential Election

Total Votes..105363298
Bush.............50456062...47.89%
Gore.............50996582...48.40%
Nader.............2858843.....2.71%
Buchanan.........438760.....0.42%
Other...............613051......0.88%

 
Cagey B [TotalFark] 2008-04-25 06:44:48 PM  
PlasticMoby: Clonod: You lose.

Now that's obscure. I'd be shocked if anyone else gets it.


As in the apocryphal story of Coolidge at the dinner party, when the woman bet him that he would say more than two words to her?

No. Not even close to obscure.

 
Wraithbane 2008-04-25 06:46:10 PM  
Cagey B
As in the apocryphal story of Coolidge at the dinner party, when the woman bet him that he would say more than two words to her?

I like the story of Churchill negotiating prices with the woman better.

 
QU!RK1019 2008-04-25 06:46:20 PM  
attackingpencil: PlasticMoby: Clonod: You lose.

Now that's obscure. I'd be shocked if anyone else gets it.

Are you kidding? I heard that story like 50 times in elementary school.


Ok... how about "The end of my line."

/Apocryphal; better than obscure?

 
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