even the WSJ online can't deny it. i did get a kick out of them insinuating that obama is part of the "left-liberal activists"... especially considering there is a congressman that is literally a socialist, and faaaar left of most of the democratic party.

The republicans are the only ones still enabling her. It's clear that McCain and Clinton are both in the same pockets and what was supposed to be an easy rigged election got taken out from under them by a Dark-horse. No pun intended.

Hillary is going to win the NOM. She's got Obama rattled and he's peaked out. If he plays his cards right, he might have a shot at 2012, which the Mayan calendar has predicted.

GaryPDX: Hillary is going to win the NOM. She's got Obama rattled and he's peaked out. If he plays his cards right, he might have a shot at 2012, which the Mayan calendar has predicted.

Wow, what's it like to live in alternate dimensions where up is down and losing is winning?

GaryPDX: he she might have a shot at 2012

fixed

That's why she's still running silly

keiverarrow
The republicans are the only ones still enabling her. It's clear that McCain and Clinton are both in the same pockets and what was supposed to be an easy rigged election got taken out from under them by a Dark-horse. No pun intended.

Last I checked the vast majority of people that vote in Democratic primaries are Democrats.

cameroncrazy1984: Wow, what's it like to live in alternate dimensions where up is down and losing is winning?

It's called wishful thinking.

From TFA: "They represent what the party was, but is no more: sensible on national security, spending and middle-class values."

QFT.

Btw, good article sub-a-roony.

Hill on Brinks radical: I didn't know! (pops)

GaryPDX: Hillary is going to win the NOM. She's got Obama rattled and he's peaked out. If he plays his cards right, he might have a shot at 2012, which the Mayan calendar has predicted.

Come on, now. I've read other posts from you. You're not that deluded. You are just screwing with us.


I'm glad that people in the media are finally starting to come to terms with reality, btw.

clancifer: From TFA: "They represent what the party was, but is no more: sensible on national security, spending and middle-class values."

QFT.

Amen to that!

Oh. He was talking about DEMOCRATS. Huh.

The tide is changing. Hillary has momentum. She might have lost the first four games in a seven games series, but she has won game five in PA, and she is looking to win the next two as well! She's the comeback kid!

cameroncrazy1984: GaryPDX: Hillary is going to win the NOM. She's got Obama rattled and he's peaked out. If he plays his cards right, he might have a shot at 2012, which the Mayan calendar has predicted.

Wow, what's it like to live in alternate dimensions where up is down and losing is winning?

Do the toilets swirl the other way too?

Lando Lincoln: clancifer: From TFA: "They represent what the party was, but is no more: sensible on national security, spending and middle-class values."

QFT.

Amen to that!

Oh. He was talking about DEMOCRATS. Huh.

Agreed. Republicans are whores to the lobbyists and their own little special interests. And I'd say Republicans can no longer claim to have any monopoly on fiscal responsibility nor sensible national security. Both sides are in it only for themselves and their little supporters.

cameroncrazy1984: GaryPDX: Hillary is going to win the NOM. She's got Obama rattled and he's peaked out. If he plays his cards right, he might have a shot at 2012, which the Mayan calendar has predicted.

Wow, what's it like to live in alternate dimensions where up is down and losing is winning?

Up is down...and black is white! C'mon now! We are through the looking glass here, people!

/doing Costner's halfhearted Cajun JFK accent rules

Lando Lincoln: Come on, now. I've read other posts from you. You're not that deluded. You are just screwing with us.

I'm ALWAYS screwing around here..lol. This IS Fark. More fun than a barrel of monkeys and dumber than a bag of hammers.

/most of the time..lol
//holy crap!..it's green

djthomas: The tide is changing. Hillary has momentum. She might have lost the first four games in a seven games series, but she has won game five in PA, and she is looking to win the next two as well! She's the comeback kid!

I see what you did there, hahaha.

djthomas: The tide is changing. Hillary has momentum. She might have lost the first four games in a seven games series, but she has won game five in PA, and she is looking to win the next two as well! She's the comeback kid!

That's the best sports analogy for this race I've heard yet.

cameroncrazy1984: djthomas: The tide is changing. Hillary has momentum. She might have lost the first four games in a seven games series, but she has won game five in PA, and she is looking to win the next two as well! She's the comeback kid!

That's the best sports analogy for this race I've heard yet.

I DREAD May 20th...the circus comes to town.

clancifer: From TFA: "They represent what the party was, but is no more: sensible on national security, spending and middle-class values."

QFT.

I agree with the first two, but 'middle-class values' is a term whose meaning is difficult to pin down. It used to mean maintaining the middle class's standard of living, supporting education, and keeping health care costs down. The term's modern use, however, has more to do with fear of 'others' - gays, immigrants, Muslims, hippies, and whoever else. It's just a euphemism for fear-based politics.

keiverarrow: The republicans are the only ones still enabling her. It's clear that McCain and Clinton are both in the same pockets and what was supposed to be an easy rigged election got taken out from under them by a Dark-horse. No pun intended.

Hillary was the forecasted nominee a year ago on the Democratic side, but I don't think the same can really be said about McCain on the Republican side at all.

GaryPDX: I DREAD May 20th...the circus comes to town.

Who plays the lead clown?

/not obscure

KiwDaWabbit: keiverarrow: The republicans are the only ones still enabling her. It's clear that McCain and Clinton are both in the same pockets and what was supposed to be an easy rigged election got taken out from under them by a Dark-horse. No pun intended.

Hillary was the forecasted nominee a year ago on the Democratic side, but I don't think the same can really be said about McCain on the Republican side at all.

McCain's definitely running a Dole-like "it's my turn" campaign and to save face the GOP's going along with it, but I think the plan was Guiliani v. Clinton. Then Rudy showed off his brilliant "let's lose everything until Florida" strategy.

After losing the last two elections like they did you'd think the Dems would want that fresh grassroots support Obama has brought to the table.

Third time's the charm (for the Repubs)?

King Something: GaryPDX: I DREAD May 20th...the circus comes to town.

Who plays the lead clown?

/not obscure

Easy, with your nick.

No centrist can secure the party's nomination in a primary system dominated by left-liberal activists. The iron law produces candidacies such as McGovern (1972), Mondale ('84), Dukakis ('88), Gore ('00) or Kerry ('04)

Gore wasn't a centrist?

And if you have to say "left-liberal" instead of just "liberal", I'm tuning you out because you're a right-conservative hack.

robsul82: KiwDaWabbit: keiverarrow: The republicans are the only ones still enabling her. It's clear that McCain and Clinton are both in the same pockets and what was supposed to be an easy rigged election got taken out from under them by a Dark-horse. No pun intended.

Hillary was the forecasted nominee a year ago on the Democratic side, but I don't think the same can really be said about McCain on the Republican side at all.

McCain's definitely running a Dole-like "it's my turn" campaign and to save face the GOP's going along with it, but I think the plan was Guiliani v. Clinton. Then Rudy showed off his brilliant "let's lose everything until Florida" strategy.

FTFY

GaryPDX: Hillary is going to win the NOM. She's got Obama rattled and he's peaked out. If he plays his cards right, he might have a shot at 2012, which the Mayan calendar has predicted.

3/10. it almost had me until you mentioned the mayan calendar thing.

good start, terrible conclusion.

CLAP CLAP POINT POINT in TFA:

And yet when the WSJ says it I begin to doubt it's true. . .

alecrazec

What? That was the best part.

Did anyone see her trying to start a "Yes we will!" chant on Colbert the other night. It was painful. I was embarrased for her. She said it about 8 or so times before people halfheartedly started picking it up. Colbert played it til the bitter end.

Btw, djthomas, best comment of the day so far. Someone should make the point to her that there's a reason they don't usually play games 5, 6 and 7.

Well that was unexpected. The first pundit I've read that correctly reported a 9 point lead was from the Opinion Journal.

I guess this means Operation Chaos and its ilk are ready to come to a close. Hillary hasn't had a chance for weeks, but keeping her on life support has allowed Republican strategists and surrogates to see Obama take a few hits on the nose.

No, those hits haven't really slowed him down, but they'll be far harder to counter when coming from McCain now that he knows where to land them. In the primary, Obama could use the common language of the Democratic party to shrug off the absurd questions of his patriotism and elitism. He won't have that in the General.

The PA debate was a muddy crystal ball. These negative themes will continue and will be refined, but the specific questions that were asked will no longer be tempered by fears of Democratic viewer backlash -- the questions will come in the unanswerable form of the church parking lot leaflet and via the spittle-flecked microphones of the bloviating AM radicals.

So now it's time to let Clinton go. Prolonging the drama much longer, as fun as it's been, will only hurt McCain. He hasn't said a word in the past two months that's lasted more than 5 minutes in the news cycle. McCain can't jump into the fray with two Democrats bickering and that's smart. But he absolutely needs to start fighting someone. He can't begin to define himself otherwise -- and he desperately needs to define himself.

The fairy tales that pretend the hard math says something different than it does are peeling away. Obama's judo has kept his numbers high the face of scandal, but he's also turned those scandals into chances to talk directly to moderates and the religious. The more inevitable Obama becomes, the more directly he can solidify his base and chip away at new demographics. And while Hillary stays in, there isn't a damn thing McCain can do about it.

Two more weeks of being shoved off out of the spotlight is bad enough for the presumptive Republican nominee as we hurl past April toward November. Expect no more free passes on trip ups like Texas, Hsu, and imaginary snipers. Indiana is being built up as a make or break state like all the other Clinton firewalls, but this time no one's going to forgive her when she moves the goal posts. Her campaign will be "suspended" by May 7th.

Silver lining: Barack "Dr. Who" Obama can end McCain faster than you can say "Remember the Keating 5?"

It's just a flesh wound.

Lando Lincoln: GaryPDX: Hillary is going to win the NOM. She's got Obama rattled and he's peaked out. If he plays his cards right, he might have a shot at 2012, which the Mayan calendar has predicted.

Come on, now. I've read other posts from you. You're not that deluded. You are just screwing with us.


I'm glad that people in the media are finally starting to come to terms with reality, btw.

And still most obama supporters wont realize he doesnt stand a chance in november, all of hillary supporters wont vote for him.

President McCain just waiting for the sacrificial lamb from the limp dems

Concrete.

steamingpile: And still most obama supporters won't realize he doesn't stand a chance in november, all of hillary supporters won't vote for him.

President McCain just waiting for the sacrificial lamb from the limp dems

Apostrophes are your friend, and you suck at prognosticating.

Assuming Obama does get the nomination, what's to stop Clinton from pulling a Liebermann? She can run under the party label, America for Clinton or something. If it's occurred to me, it must have occurred to one of you. She could use the "disenfranchisement" of MI and FL voters as an excuse to leave the Democrats. She'd say, "They abandoned you, but I won't."

GaryPDX:
Up is down...and black is white! C'mon now! We are through the looking glass here, people!




/couldn't find the little black kid

I remember the Southern Democrats of the 1980s, a now-extinct breed. As part of my dream of constitutional political reform I try to come up with a way to ban national parties so the country doesn't feel compelled to split along one line. So far, no good ideas.

No centrist can secure the party's nomination in a primary system dominated by left-liberal activists. The iron law produces candidacies such as ... Gore ('00) or Kerry ('04)

Anyone who thinks either Gore or Kerry appealed to "left-liberal activists" shouldn't be allowed to discuss the politics of American Idol, let alone the primary season for the general election.

steamingpile: Lando Lincoln: GaryPDX: Hillary is going to win the NOM. She's got Obama rattled and he's peaked out. If he plays his cards right, he might have a shot at 2012, which the Mayan calendar has predicted.

Come on, now. I've read other posts from you. You're not that deluded. You are just screwing with us.


I'm glad that people in the media are finally starting to come to terms with reality, btw.

And still most obama supporters wont realize he doesnt stand a chance in november, all of hillary supporters wont vote for him.

President McCain just waiting for the sacrificial lamb from the limp dems

I don't know about that one. I was a Hillary supporter but I was convinced quite awhile ago that she can't win. (Not to mention the horrible campaign and stupid mistakes that made me feel retarded for supporting her to begin with.) Anyway there are many people like me who voted for her in the past and will vote for Obama in the future.

GaryPDX:
I DREAD May 20th...the circus comes to town.

I completely agree with this statement. I can imagine the Age Of Conan servers are going to be swamped with all the new registrants. I suggest getting the preorder so you can get the 3 day headstart and avoid the abundance of noobs.

/we are talking about Age of Conan?

Murkanen: Anyone who thinks either Gore or Kerry appealed to "left-liberal activists" shouldn't be allowed to discuss the politics of American Idol, let alone the primary season for the general election.

QFT

Still it does mean something when one of these idiots finally gets it. Obama has no trouble attracting the educated with critical thinking skills. Its the nitwits like this that seem slow to warm up to him. It a good sign.

Tellingthem: I don't know about that one. I was a Hillary supporter but I was convinced quite awhile ago that she can't win. (Not to mention the horrible campaign and stupid mistakes that made me feel retarded for supporting her to begin with.) Anyway there are many people like me who voted for her in the past and will vote for Obama in the future.

No you are an obama supporter, rabid hillary people will not vote for him at all, you just supported hillary cause you thought she could win now you have jumped off that band wagon. You will have plenty of opportunity to vote for obama, he just wont win so the dems will have screwed up 3 elections in a row.

Still waiting for someone to show me what obama has actually done while in office and remember showing up to vote does not actually mean he did anything.

Bender The Offender: I completely agree with this statement. I can imagine the Age Of Conan servers are going to be swamped with all the new registrants. I suggest getting the preorder so you can get the 3 day headstart and avoid the abundance of noobs.

/we are talking about Age of Conan?

Well-played, sir. Well-played enough for TF.

steamingpile: And still most obama supporters wont realize he doesnt stand a chance in november, all of hillary supporters wont vote for him.

President McCain just waiting for the sacrificial lamb from the limp dems

Keep on praying that this is true.