Well duh. I think we all saw that coming.

McCain can still jump?

/get it? he's old!

//Blink blink robo-grin thumbs-up

In the debate, Obama said he was also friends with Republican Senator Tom Coburn, who once called for the death penalty for doctors who carry out abortions. "Do I need to apologize for Mr. Coburn's statements?" he said.

heh

John McCain... Keating Five

That unrepntant terrorist line is straight from Hannity.

dangerous road, considering that the man that gave mccain his first government internship was pontius pilate, who had jesus crucified when john was 8 years old.

Well, in 1969-1973, McCain was sort of "out of touch" with the world too, although in a slightly different way. In fact, if we want to also take HIS statements out of context, he was writing anti-American propaganda during 1968. Shall we violently condemn him for that?

(In 1968, after suffering over a year of intense torture, McCain was forced to write an anti-American propaganda "confession" by his Vietnamese captors. Of course, he is as much to blame for that as Obama is for Ayers' activities during the same period.)

Obama's crime here is serving on the board of an anti-poverty organization. Why? Because another person on that board was a Distinguished Professor of Education at the University of Illinois at Chicago, whose philanthropy is shared by his wife's directorship at the Children and Family Justice Center at Northwestern University. These community members hosted what guests call an "unremarkable gathering" where a state Senator identified Obama as her successor. And why is this so wrong? Because when Barack Obama was eight years old and on a completely separate continent, the couple in question engaged in violent radicalism that Obama has repeatedly denounced, rejected, and done other synonyms for denounced and rejected.

To use Stephen Colbert's line of logic:

Barack Obama is a Democrat.
Democrats nominated John Kerry.
John Kerry is friends with John McCain.
John McCain is older than shiat.

Therefore, Barack Obama would be a shiatty president! IT'S RIGHT THERE, PEOPLE!

Lost me at "Maverick."

Well, I guess I can never run for office then, I've met people and been at events with people who support bombing abortion clinics and who believe killing abortionists is justifiable homicide. I don't believe those things, I think it's wrong and immoral, but I guess because I've met people who do, I'm guilty as well.

Oh wait, it only matters when it's a leftist bomber. I guess I'm safe.

fishsticks: That unrepntant terrorist line is straight from Hannity.

Also reality, interestingly enough.

Gyrfalcon: In 1968, after suffering over a year of intense torture, McCain was forced to write an anti-American propaganda "confession" by his Vietnamese captors. Of course, he is as much to blame for that as Obama is for Ayers' activities during the same period.

This insinuation is worthless without pictures. Don't forget to wear your flag pin, Johnny, Hanoi Angie's watching.

Bush's grandfather's connection with the nazis didn't seem to bother McCain.

"That's right, Ice....Man. I am dangerous."

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This insinuation is worthless without pictures.

Angela Lansbury was hot! And what's that in the... I suddenly feel compelled to do obey...

Weather Underground were terrorists, that's pretty much beyond denial. But Obama's work alongside Ayers had nothing to do with Ayers' terrorist activity.

Also:

FTFA: McCain said it was "probably" a mistake to solicit Hagee's endorsement, which might help him with evangelical voters, but said he was "glad" to have it nonetheless.

"I said any comments that he made about the Catholic Church I strongly condemn, of course," he said.

But it's not enough to condemn comments like "God damn America," you have to condemn the man who baptized your children. OK, got it.

After renting a Ryder truck that has been linked to the Oklahoma City bombing, McVeigh telephoned a religious community that preaches white supremacy, but no one there can remember knowing him or talking to him. His only known affiliations are as a registered Republican in his New York days, and as a member of the National Rifle Association while he was in the Army.

/this is fun

Failing_Junk: fishsticks: That unrepntant terrorist line is straight from Hannity.

Also reality, interestingly enough.

well, if you ignore a lot of other things he said, especially clarifying the statement in question, then yeah.

Hobodeluxe: Obama's crime here is serving on the board of an anti-poverty organization. Why? Because another person on that board was a Distinguished Professor of Education at the University of Illinois at Chicago, whose philanthropy is shared by his wife's directorship at the Children and Family Justice Center at Northwestern University. These community members hosted what guests call an "unremarkable gathering" where a state Senator identified Obama as her successor. And why is this so wrong? Because when Barack Obama was eight years old and on a completely separate continent, the couple in question engaged in violent radicalism that Obama has repeatedly denounced, rejected, and done other synonyms for denounced and rejected.

Obama held a fundraiser at the guy's house, though.

Well, if this is the thread where we make light of McCain's imprisonment, what the hell...

elchip: Obama held a fundraiser at the guy's house, though.

wrong. the event was that "unremarkable gathering", held by ayers on behalf of obama's predecessor so that she could announce obama as her successor.

burndtdan: wrong. the event was that "unremarkable gathering", held by ayers on behalf of obama's predecessor so that she could announce obama as her successor.

Yarly?

elchip: burndtdan: wrong. the event was that "unremarkable gathering", held by ayers on behalf of obama's predecessor so that she could announce obama as her successor.

Yarly?

yes, obama was just there to meet and greet people his predecessor's supporters.

Where was McCain's flag pin??!?!??!!?

Why does he hate America?

No "They see me rollin'" image macro?

I guess that Hannity must be sitting back and having a good laugh over this. It's mission accomplished for him, isn't it? (with a big tip of the lid to George Stephanopoulis)

elchip: Well, if this is the thread where we make light of McCain's imprisonment, what the hell...

Not at all. Just pointing out that almost anything can be found to take out of context. You don't even have to look very hard.

From the second line in the article:

"...maverick Arizona senator..."

WHY do people keep insisting this, given his policy? And if they truly believe it, why not find a better word than "maverick" which is used ad nauseum? What happened to journalism?

I just find it interesting that McCain used the phrase "Unrepentant Terrorist", a phrase I associate with Sean Hannity. I don't know if the phrase originated with Hannity or not but I've noticed that he's been involved in this issue, first with the debate question he gave Stephanopolous (sp?), and now this quote if it did originate from him. The effect of the media on politics, and vice versa is a complex thing, and I am musing.

I think I watch too much cable news.

McCain has to take these shots - the only chance he has of winning the Presidency before he starts crapping himself is if HillBill is the Democratic nominee.

WFern: From the second line in the article:

"...maverick Arizona senator..."

WHY do people keep insisting this, given his policy? And if they truly believe it, why not find a better word than "maverick" which is used ad nauseum? What happened to journalism?

If you saw the ABC debate, you know what happened. It got lazy. I've said this before. If not for the internet, Hillary almost certainly would've gotten the nomination.

Since when did the word "maveric" come to mean "a lamprey on Bush's colon"?

His fall since Bush's crap campaign in 2000 has been pathetic.

Demetrius: Where was McCain's flag pin??!?!??!!?

Why does he hate America?

Probably couldn't use the bum arm for some reason

Gyrfalcon: In 1968, after suffering over a year of intense torture, McCain was forced to write an anti-American propaganda "confession" by his Vietnamese captors.

So then I guess McCain has no problem admitting that torture is unreliable?

He should know that if you stomped on anyone long enough that they'd confess to the most absurd things, right?

Gee, that makes me think that he must be a really outspoken activist in explaining that torture is worthless as an intelligence-gathering tool, right? He must be really critical of water-boarding and stuff, and talks about it all the time, right?

Anyone who knows what waterboarding is could not be unsure. It is a horrible torture technique used by Pol Pot and being used on Buddhist monks as we speak,"

"People who have worn the uniform and had the experience know that this is a terrible and odious practice and should never be condoned in the U.S. We are a better nation than that."

-McCain
/yarly

shillmitter, using the logic of the headline, anyone born on September 12, 2001 can associate with al Qaeda without question.

Without immediate conclusions? Yes.

Without question? No.

It is good to see that reporters can watch This Week and then write a story. For those of you who did not see this, George made McCain look like an idiot. McCain went on this rant about how if he knew someone was a unrepentant terrorist he would not serve on a board with him and would openly condemn him (like Obama did do BTW). George then ask McCain why he continued his relationship with Hagee considering that he has made comments on Catholics and others and is not repentant for them. McCain said that he condemned the anti-catholic statements, but would not say that he rejects the Hagee endorsement. He then claimed that it was shameful for Obama to compare Tom Coburn to Ayers. Maybe calling for the death of doctors that practice abortions is no big deal to McCain and reason to call someone a humanitarian (which he did about 5 times). To me it is a pretty extremist view. I am farking sick of people calling McCain a centrist. Let's review:

1. Agrees with Coburn that abortion doctors should be given the death penalty.
2. Thinks that the answer to the health care crisis is to abolish the tax incentive for employers to offer group insurance and let everyone go it alone (with a tax rebate).
3. Wants to bomb bomb bomb bomb bomb Iran.
4. Believes that the surge is working.
5. Does not think there is anything wrong with people that earn the majority of their income in the stock market paying half the tax rate of a teacher or fireman.
6. Will not rescind the Bush tax cut.
7. Will add another $100 billion a year on top of our current budget with his tax cuts and lack of spending cuts. He said today that he would still cut taxes even if he could not find the spending decreases he wants.

This guy is a right wing no-tax and spend conservative. He is the worst of Reagan and Bush 2 rolled up in one. Obama is right McCain would not be another 4 years of Bush. It would be worse.

2008-04-20 10:31:59 PM

1/10

Sadly, "Obama is a sleeper Muslim" is more convincing.

USP .45: Without question? No.

It's not our fault you don't like the actual answer to that question.

I think McCain is getting desperate kinda soon. Oh well, must be hard to run as a Republican when you got such a bozo in the White House from the same party.

chu2dogg: Anyone who knows what waterboarding is could not be unsure. It is a horrible torture technique used by Pol Pot and being used on Buddhist monks as we speak,"

"People who have worn the uniform and had the experience know that this is a terrible and odious practice and should never be condoned in the U.S. We are a better nation than that."

-McCain
/yarly

It certainly makes his waffling on the issue all the more insidious.

USP .45: 2008-04-20 10:31:59 PM

1/10

Sadly, "Obama is a sleeper Muslim" is more convincing.

Name one thing on this list that is wrong. Name one.....

USP .45: 2008-04-20 10:31:59 PM

1/10

Sadly, "Obama is a sleeper Muslim" is more convincing.

Sadly the things posted at 10:31:59 PM are facts. What you posted is a lie.

chu2dogg: McCain
/yarly

...until he has to do something meaningful beyond running his yap, like voting to curtail the CIA's use of torture to the rules set out in the Army Field Manual on Interrogation, which prohibits physical force and lists approved interrogation methods.

Talk is cheap, old man.

Tor_Eckman: What you posted is a lie.

That is a categorically false statement.

I see what I'm dealing with here.

USP .45: I see what I'm dealing with here.

I think I have figured out that you are a troll. I have painted you into a corner 3 times in the last couple of days. Prove me wrong. Let me know one thing on that list that is wrong.

/ I knew Sunny Ray
// You sir are no Sunny Ray

DaSwankOne: USP .45: I see what I'm dealing with here.

I think I have figured out that you are a troll. I have painted you into a corner 3 times in the last couple of days. Prove me wrong. Let me know one thing on that list that is wrong.

Like the time you couldn't clarify Obama's position on capital gains taxes, then admitted you were smoking pot and stopped responding?

You couldn't beat me at an argument if I was farking ashes.

USP .45: You couldn't beat me at an argument if I was farking ashes.

You'd be lucky to fark ashes.

USP .45: DaSwankOne: USP .45: I see what I'm dealing with here.

I think I have figured out that you are a troll. I have painted you into a corner 3 times in the last couple of days. Prove me wrong. Let me know one thing on that list that is wrong.

Like the time you couldn't clarify Obama's position on capital gains taxes, then admitted you were smoking pot and stopped responding?

You couldn't beat me at an argument if I was farking ashes.

Also, way to prove him wrong with evidence for THIS argument.