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(Some Q) Spiffy London museum opens display of James Bond & Ian Fleming memorabilia, including such deadly weapons as Rosa Klebb's shoe, Fleming's .357 revolver and Halle Berry's bikini   (london.iwm.org.uk) divider line 75
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Control_this [TotalFark] 2008-04-20 12:32:49 PM  
Thumper's thighs.

 
RocketRod [TotalFark] 2008-04-20 12:41:11 PM  
Tiffany Case's cuffs & collar?

 
Peter_Steele 2008-04-20 12:50:31 PM  
all i saw was the sports trophies. six times.

 
Samwise Gamgee 2008-04-20 12:51:07 PM  
RocketRod: Tiffany Case's cuffs & collar?

www.lacoctelera.com

Or Lazenby's?

 
lenfromak 2008-04-20 12:52:12 PM  
Useless without pics of Halle Berry's bikini.

 
daffy 2008-04-20 12:54:42 PM  
Samwise Gamgee

You just had to put that picture up, didn't you. Now I have to watch some good Bond movies to get him out of my head!

 
pureobscure 2008-04-20 01:04:48 PM  
That website is the perfect example of why Flash sites suck. Yes, let me spin a roulette wheel to browse through items in the collection -- brilliant!

(At least there was a non-Flash version, but still).

 
the_marq 2008-04-20 01:07:20 PM  
Is this the kind of museum where they let you touch the exhibits? And maybe I don't know... sniff them?

 
Gairloch [TotalFark] 2008-04-20 01:09:20 PM  
That's a somewhat annoying flash navigation thingy. I clicked over and over again and the only thing I found that subby mentioned was the shoes.

/that recipe for scrambled eggs was kinda scary though, a dozen eggs and over a third pound of butter

 
NoMessiahInHere 2008-04-20 01:09:52 PM  
When my wife and I were in London about 7 years ago there was a similar exhibit. Pretty cool stuff, but the older memorabilia was the best because it was so cheesy (e.g. the jet pack).

 
berylman 2008-04-20 01:13:43 PM  
What about Roger Moore's Hello Kitty vibrator?

 
bunny_of_chaos 2008-04-20 01:16:01 PM  
Peter_Steele: all i saw was the sports trophies. six times.

The roulette wheel loves me - I only saw the sports trophies once. I did see the cover of the new book twice.

 
Espertron 2008-04-20 01:29:27 PM  
Coolest bad guy paraphenalia? The Golden Gun!

www.colibri-shop.co.uk

A bit of Bond snobbery from me...

I wasn't a particular fan of the Roger Moore 007 films (hated most of them), but I liked The Man With The Golden Gun solely because of the antagonist: Francisco Scaramanga (played by Christopher Lee).

This is a guy who was the mirror-image of Bond: Cultured. Intelligent. Physically capable. Deadly. He did his own dirty work and didn't rely on thugs to eliminate adversaries for him.

Probably one of my all time favorite Bond scenes and some of the best dialogue from a 007 film:


Scaramanga:
Come, come, Mr Bond. You disappoint me. You get as much fulfilment out of killing as l do. Admit it.

Bond: I admit killing you would be a pleasure.

Scaramanga: You should have done that before. But then the English don't think it's sporting to kill in cold blood.

Bond: Don't count on that.

Scaramanga: I could have shot you when you landed, but that would have been too easy. You see, Mr Bond, like every great artist, I want to create an indisputable masterpiece once in my lifetime. The death of James Bond. Mano a mano, face to face, will be mine.

Bond: You mean stuffed and displayed over your rocky mantelpiece.

Scaramanga: That's an amusing idea, but l was thinking in terms of history. A duel between titans. My golden gun against your Walther PPK. Each of us with an equal chance.

Bond: Six bullets to your one?

Scaramanga: I only need one.

Bond: Sounds a bit old-fashioned, doesn't it? l mean, pistols at dawn, that sort of thing.

Scaramanga: Indeed it is, Mr Bond. But it still remains the only true test for gentlemen.

Bond: I doubt if you qualify on that score.

 
NotWithoutAsswelts 2008-04-20 01:49:59 PM  
How about a replica of Pussy Galore's pussy?

 
devilslefthand 2008-04-20 02:17:12 PM  
How about the dialoge from "Die Another Day".

It sure killed a little part of me inside.

 
Bob Ondeeznuts 2008-04-20 02:19:01 PM  
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I wonder if the bikini was washed. If not then they should offer a scratch and sniff tour

 
eltejon 2008-04-20 02:19:31 PM  
they had a great exhibit there a couple years ago on mi-6.... the real thing... more interesting really than Bond. And I love Bond....

 
OscarTamerz 2008-04-20 02:20:02 PM  
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I think I discovered why Ian Fleming survived to the ripe old age of 56. A dozen eggs and a quarter pound of butter for breakfast every day along with 3 packs of cigarettes a day and that would be just about right.

 
thenewflesh 2008-04-20 02:20:54 PM  
Espertron: A bit of Bond snobbery from me...

I wasn't a particular fan of the Roger Moore 007 films (hated most of them), but I liked The Man With The Golden Gun solely because of the antagonist: Francisco Scaramanga (played by Christopher Lee).

This is a guy who was the mirror-image of Bond: Cultured. Intelligent. Physically capable. Deadly. He did his own dirty work and didn't rely on thugs to eliminate adversaries for him.


I remember liking Man With the Golden Gun a lot as a kid, but it's lost its shine for me over the years. Mainly due to that f***ing stupid pennywhistle sound over the fantastic bridge jump, the Fantasy Island references and the fact that the climax is a blatant rip-off of Enter The Dragon.

Scaramanga is still a great villain though, and it's definitely nowhere near as bad as the worst Bond movie (Moonraker). Mind you, I've always had a soft spot for View To A Kill so I'm not going to trash any of the other Bonds ;)

 
PrinceCole 2008-04-20 02:26:53 PM  
The exhibit looks great now if they would just put all the Bond cars on display I would be a happy man.

And if they put a replica of Plenty O'Tooles cleavage on display I would be a really happy man.

 
McClane [TotalFark] 2008-04-20 02:32:28 PM  
From the link:

and Fleming's Colt Python .375 Magnum revolver.

Didn't know Colt made a .375. I bet it kicks ass over the wussy .357 Magnum.

 
meatofmystery 2008-04-20 02:36:12 PM  
Die Another Day was a horrible Bond......

 
thenewflesh 2008-04-20 02:50:57 PM  
meatofmystery: Die Another Day was a horrible Bond......

For the most part, yes. Invisible car? Madonna? FSCKING crappy CGI!

I like it for 2 reasons though. I do like the theme tune (and the way it play over an opening sequence that contains plot points not just eye candy). Also, the scenes where they're in Cuba weren't filmed in Cuba but rather Cadiz, Spain. Which is about an 80 minute drive from where I live! I've also been to Havana and the 2 cities do look strangely alike from the outside - not just the architecture but also the look and curve of the coastline. Strange.

 
Sue Dunham 2008-04-20 02:52:58 PM  
"You expect me to talk?"
"No Mr. Bond.... I expect you to die."

 
Espertron 2008-04-20 02:58:23 PM  
thenewflesh: I remember liking Man With the Golden Gun a lot as a kid, but it's lost its shine for me over the years. Mainly due to that f***ing stupid pennywhistle sound over the fantastic bridge jump, the Fantasy Island references and the fact that the climax is a blatant rip-off of Enter The Dragon.

Scaramanga is still a great villain though, and it's definitely nowhere near as bad as the worst Bond movie (Moonraker). Mind you, I've always had a soft spot for View To A Kill so I'm not going to trash any of the other Bonds ;)


I liked Man with a Golden Gun solely because of Scaramanga. It had its share of flaws. You also forgot the worst Bond reoccurring character ever...

upload.wikimedia.org

Sheriff J. W. Pepper

Pepper: Now I know you!
Bond: Oh, no...
Pepper: You're that secret agent! That English secret agent from England!

Awful stuff.

 
Espertron 2008-04-20 03:13:24 PM  
devilslefthand: How about the dialoge from "Die Another Day". It sure killed a little part of me inside.

Personally, I thought ALL the Pierce Brosnan 007 movies sucked. Just terrible. Yeah, but Die Another Day was probably his worst movie. In fact, any movie with Madonna is can be considered ass.

Just to continue the Bond snobbery thread here... mind you all that this is just my opinion.

Top 3 Bond movies:

3. Goldfinger (Connery)
2. Casino Royale (Craig)
1. From Russia With Love (Connery) - best of the best!

3 worst Bond movies:

3. Never Say Never Again (Connery)
2. Die Another Day (Brosnan)
1. Moonraker (Moore) - should be renamed 'Castle of Ass'.

Best Bond: Sean Connery
Worst Bond: George Lazenby (although I did like On Her Majesty's Secret Service as a movie)

Best Bond Villain: Francisco Scaramanga (Man With A Golden Gun) - Blofeld and Zorin tie for a very close second.
Worst Bond Villain: Elliot Carver (Tomorrow Never Dies) - well acted, but horribly written.

Best Q Gadget: The Briefcase (from From Russia with Love) - versatile, realistic and had many, many features (hidden gold coins for bribes, hidden ammo for a sniper rifle, hidden throwing knife, exploding (and magnetized) can of talc powder. Q at his best)
Worst Q Gadget: That piece of shiat invisible car (from Die Another Day)

 
Fabric_Man 2008-04-20 03:16:42 PM  
Which was the best fight scene? The elevator from Diamonds are Forever or the train from Russia With Love?

 
Espertron 2008-04-20 03:19:22 PM  
Fabric_Man: Which was the best fight scene? The elevator from Diamonds are Forever or the train from Russia With Love?

The train. Made even better by the fact that Bond kills Grant with his own assassination weapon. Classic Bond.

I thought the Bond-Odd Job fight in Goldfinger was pretty cool also.

 
Wolfmanjames [TotalFark] 2008-04-20 03:20:00 PM  
daffy: Samwise Gamgee

You just had to put that picture up, didn't you. Now I have to watch some good Bond movies to get him out of my head!


Please choose your answer from the two below:

1) OHMSS was a very good Bond flick. Like most of the better ones i was faithful the the Flemming novel. it also showed a nearly gadget free Bond as a bona fide master spy with a human side.

2) BLASPHEMER! BURN THE HERETIC!

I agree Lazenby had no charisma, but that's an issue for another day.

 
Espertron 2008-04-20 03:21:12 PM  
OscarTamerz: I think I discovered why Ian Fleming survived to the ripe old age of 56. A dozen eggs and a quarter pound of butter for breakfast every day along with 3 packs of cigarettes a day and that would be just about right.

According to the recipe, it states "For 4 as a main dish"
Surely Fleming wasn't eating ALL of those eggs.

 
Espertron 2008-04-20 03:22:37 PM  
Wolfmanjames: daffy: Samwise Gamgee

You just had to put that picture up, didn't you. Now I have to watch some good Bond movies to get him out of my head!

Please choose your answer from the two below:

1) OHMSS was a very good Bond flick. Like most of the better ones i was faithful the the Flemming novel. it also showed a nearly gadget free Bond as a bona fide master spy with a human side.

2) BLASPHEMER! BURN THE HERETIC!

I agree Lazenby had no charisma, but that's an issue for another day.


I chose 1. OHMSS was a great story, faithful to the novel and significantly developed the Bond character (especially with the death of his wife). It is unfortunate that Lazenby wasn't able to successfully pull off the Bond character.

 
bobbette [TotalFark] 2008-04-20 03:23:40 PM  
More references please.

Jaws' jaws. (Jaws was tacky. But awesome.)

Blofeld's cat. The moon buggy from Diamonds are Forever. The awkwardly transposed blaxploitation stereotypes in Live and Let Die. The Golden Gun. Everything about Christopher Walken and Grace Jones in A View to a Kill. The retarded arcade game that resulted in a Bond-Villain electrical zap-off in probably the most disappointing Bond movie, the unofficial Never Say Never Again. The Walther PPK. About 10 different cars... they were all pretty rad, but I have a fondness for the submarine car. Sharks (in about 8 different movies. Don't sharks ever LEARN?)

#1 prop, though... Goldfinger's laser. No, Mr. Bond! I expect you to DIE!

 
bobbette [TotalFark] 2008-04-20 03:31:48 PM  
Espertron: Fabric_Man: Which was the best fight scene? The elevator from Diamonds are Forever or the train from Russia With Love?

Train! Totally epic. Anyways, Diamonds are Forever was a weaker movie. From Russia With Love had great timing... tension... everything. Diamonds are Forever had only a few high points: the cloned Blofelds-cat-toss thing, the casino elevator, the moon buggy, the hot bodyguards at Willard Whyte's house, and the end sequence on the ship where Wint and Kidd finally DIE after annoying me the whole movie. The rest is mostly filler... sad.

 
Espertron 2008-04-20 03:33:16 PM  
bobbette: More references please....but I have a fondness for the submarine car.

The car was an 84 Lotus Espirit. Great stuff.

Other cool props... hmmm...

Odd Job's derby/bowler hat, Aston Martin DB5, Dr. No's outlandish radiation uniforn and the Jetpack in Thunderball (only because it was an actual, functioning jetpack).

 
bobbette [TotalFark] 2008-04-20 03:40:31 PM  
Oh, and for another post... I don't actually count the Pierce Brosnan movies as Bond movies. For me Bond ends with Timothy Dalton (a hideous Bond) and then revives with Daniel Craig in the excellent Casino Royale. The Pierce Brosnan movies are hideously formulaic... and apart from Famke Janssen and Sophie Marceau, the Bond girls are weak. Yeah, including (heck, ESPECIALLY) Halle Berry.

 
Beonarri 2008-04-20 03:52:00 PM  
Ursula Andres bikini would've made me actually care about this.

/Bond fan who thinks the new Casino Royale sucked great big donkey balls. I mean, there wasn't even a Q part. WTF.

 
DosMas 2008-04-20 03:54:29 PM  
Pierce Brosnan is the second generation Timothy Dalton. They both sucked, the movie were poorly done, and neither could live up to being in one of the most charismatic roles in cinematic history. Craig was a welcomed sojourn from Pierce. Can't wait for the next one.

 
spin359 2008-04-20 03:56:29 PM  
I cannot sit by idle while you all insult the 2nd best bond, lazenby was not bad, and come on, Timothy Dalton? surely he's better than timmy boy...


/connery

 
DosMas 2008-04-20 03:57:37 PM  
Beonarri: Bond fan who thinks the new Casino Royale sucked great big donkey balls. I mean, there wasn't even a Q part. WTF.

Uhhh, A) Q's dead yo. and B) it was better to see Daniel Craig doing OHRMSS than Pierce. It was supposed to be the first assignment, they couldn't put some old face in there.

 
Barricaded Gunman 2008-04-20 04:06:25 PM  
Beonarri: Bond fan who thinks the new Casino Royale sucked great big donkey balls. I mean, there wasn't even a Q part. WTF.

Please... the Q scenes got sillier and weaker as the movies went on. It was like they interupted a perfectly good movie for adults with a "wacky" scene meant to appeal to children. Anyone who misses Q probably also got a kick out of the pigeon doing a double-take in Moonraker.

 
black_knight 2008-04-20 04:10:55 PM  
www.solarnavigator.net
Who throws a shoe? Honestly?

 
thenewflesh 2008-04-20 04:22:31 PM  
bobbette: #1 prop, though... Goldfinger's laser. No, Mr. Bond! I expect you to DIE!

imgs.xkcd.com

/obligatory

 
thenewflesh 2008-04-20 04:27:31 PM  
Beonarri: Ursula Andres bikini would've made me actually care about this.

/Bond fan who thinks the new Casino Royale sucked great big donkey balls. I mean, there wasn't even a Q part. WTF.


It's a prequel. Casino Royale shows you the introduction of Bond and his first mission as a 00 agent. Also, it was a direct adaptation of the novel, and Q wasn't in the novel. He should come later (though they will have to look long and hard to replace Desmond Llewelyn).

 
Marla Singer's Laundry [TotalFark] 2008-04-20 04:33:47 PM  
McClane: From the link:

and Fleming's Colt Python .375 Magnum revolver.

Didn't know Colt made a .375. I bet it kicks ass over the wussy .357 Magnum.


I thought the Python was a .44 or a .40

My b/f knows this. I do not.

 
bobbette [TotalFark] 2008-04-20 04:35:04 PM  
Beonarri: Ursula Andres bikini would've made me actually care about this.

/Bond fan who thinks the new Casino Royale sucked great big donkey balls. I mean, there wasn't even a Q part. WTF.


You're missing the reason why they're called the BOND movies. Whoever's playing Bond drives the picture. And Bond needs to be super charismatic, athletic, quick on his feet, totally deadly, witty, and (almost) remorseless. He needs to be edgy. He was fortunate to have better writing and closer feel to the original movies, but Daniel Craig was PERFECT. He comes a very close second to the original Connery. He's a better actor than any Bond to date (and, for the ladies and some guys, he's arguably the hottest Bond to date.) But as f***ing Pierce Brosnan proved to us all, there's much more to a successful Bond than looks. I think Casino Royale is the first Bond movie written for the audience to be emotionally invested in the character rather than to be simply entertained. Bond was trying a bit too hard, despite knowing his strengths as a playboy, as a deceptive genius who gets missions done. He farked up. He allowed himself to fall for a girl, to be played, to get emotionally involved. He had second thoughts about his career. This is realistic: he's young. And after Vesper dies his horrible, grief-stricken rejection of her as a traitor is stunning for the audience. People gasp when Craig delivers the line "The biatch is dead." Beyond the great dramatic story underlying Casino Royale, Le Chiffre as the villain is classic Bond - a bit ridiculous and funny (crying blood?), but also more dangerous than the caricatures of international supervillains you've come to expect. And despite the lack of Q, there's still great, almost over-the-top technology (how ridiculous was the home defibrillator kit) and awesome cars - and way, way less reliance on CGI, more real action sequences and effects. I also really liked the almost maternal-son thing between Bond and Judi Dench's M. There's emotion there. She's not just his boss.

Anyhow, what I'm saying is, there are good reasons why this is the top grossing Bond film of all time. It's a great action movie, period, and it totally refreshed the series.

 
LordBollocks [TotalFark] 2008-04-20 04:54:16 PM  
www.ejmailorder.co.uk

And now all hanguns are banned in the Nanny Police State ...

 
mark12A 2008-04-20 05:03:34 PM  
Anyhow, what I'm saying is, there are good reasons why this is the top grossing Bond film of all time. It's a great action movie, period, and it totally refreshed the series.

+1

And I hear the next Bond, Quantum of Solace, picks up right where Casino Royale ends. I can hardly wait for Quantum. Reason enough to survive the summer.

 
Espertron 2008-04-20 05:08:15 PM  
Beonarri: Bond fan who thinks the new Casino Royale sucked great big donkey balls. I mean, there wasn't even a Q part. WTF.

A couple of disagreements with you good sir.

1. Casino Royale was probably the best thing to happen to the Bond franchise since Connery. Seriously.

2. Q wasn't in the original Casino Royale story by Ian Fleming so why should he be in the movie. This bring me to another issue I have with the most recent Bond movies (minus Casino Royale).

Gadgets are part of the Bond universe. Accepted. However, I have a couple of issues with gadgets:

1. I accept them as long as they are rooted in some form of scientific reality. The briefcase from From Russia with Love is my favorite because it is entirely plausible. So is the garrote watch, tape recorder camera, collapsible sniper rifle. Practically everything in Russia could realistically exist. Even the Jetpack in Thunderball is authentic.

However, when we start having invisible cars, laser wristwatches and similar crap, well, it starts to become a stretch for me.

2. The gadgets should exist to serve the story, not the other way around. I liked Bond, particularly early Connery and Craig because they don't so heavily rely on the gadgets. It was Bond's physical and mental capabilities that allowed him to survive. Not fantastical devices.

Fleming once said that Bond stories are, essentially, fairy tales for adults. Fairy tales rooted in espionage, not science fiction.

 
CygnusDarius [TotalFark] 2008-04-20 05:20:11 PM  
What no Golden Eye?.

 
Pants of Pants 2008-04-20 06:05:31 PM  
Bond "purists" can nibble my pickle. It's all about the gadgets, puns and tuxedos. Brosnan and Moore ftw.

 
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