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(AP) Stupid Clinton and Obama complain about complaining. Bunch of whiners   (hosted.ap.org) divider line 83
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Carth 2008-04-19 10:43:19 AM  
I'm sure some farkers will complain about them complaining about complaining.

/is complaining about farkers who complain about them complaining about complaining.

 
NYZooMan 2008-04-19 10:53:14 AM  
No whine like Liberal whine.

 
VRaptor117 2008-04-19 10:56:29 AM  
It's not really complaining. It's more like who claim they are the bigger victim in all this.

 
VRaptor117 2008-04-19 10:57:49 AM  
That should read "It's more like who can claim that they are the bigger victim of all this."

/need
//coffee

 
gtraz 2008-04-19 10:58:30 AM  
I can't believe this article came from the AP. If this election cycle is going to show us anything it is how far journalism has devolved. Articles no longer include any fact checking only spouting what each side says about the other without seeing who is actually correct.

"Hillary Clinton said that MoveOn was against going into Afghanistan but MoveOn says that is not true."

Ms. Pickler you are a farking journalist. Would you be ever so kind as to actually do your farking job, go back and research the issue and then get back to us. Fact check it you idiot.

\I think I just complained about someone complaining about the candidates complaining about complaining.

 
DeRosso 2008-04-19 10:58:50 AM  
Clinton explaining that losing caucuses is due to movon.org working against her:
"There have been well-documented instances of intimidation in the Nevada and the Texas caucuses and it is a fact that while we have won four of the five largest primaries, where participation is greatest, Senator Obama has done better in caucuses than we have. "

 
Game With Stones 2008-04-19 11:02:29 AM  
I'm tired of hearing complaints about people complaining about other people complaining. Its time something was done about this.

 
legendary [TotalFark] 2008-04-19 11:08:33 AM  
I'd really like to thank Hillary for dragging us all through these fantastic news cycles.

 
Unright 2008-04-19 11:10:27 AM  
gtraz: I can't believe this article came from the AP. If this election cycle is going to show us anything it is how far journalism has devolved. Articles no longer include any fact checking only spouting what each side says about the other without seeing who is actually correct.

"Hillary Clinton said that MoveOn was against going into Afghanistan but MoveOn says that is not true."

Ms. Pickler you are a farking journalist. Would you be ever so kind as to actually do your farking job, go back and research the issue and then get back to us. Fact check it you idiot.


THIS

 
RandomExcess 2008-04-19 11:12:11 AM  
One thing Obama is NOT whining about is his endorsement by Hamas.

 
mtman900 2008-04-19 11:12:22 AM  
Game With Stones: I'm tired of hearing complaints about people complaining about other people complaining. Its time something was done about this.

I think that all right-thinking people in this country are sick and tired of being told that ordinary, decent people are fed up in this country with being sick and tired. I'm certainly not! But I'm sick and tired of being told that I am!

 
Daddakamabb 2008-04-19 11:12:55 AM  
fsb.zedge.net

 
Daddakamabb 2008-04-19 11:13:51 AM  
RandomExcess: One thing Obama is NOT whining about is his endorsement by Hamas.

1/10

 
thalidomide new and improved 2008-04-19 11:15:50 AM  
It's okay. in about seven months, we'll forget about them both.

/it's a lock

 
Spanky_McFarksalot 2008-04-19 11:17:58 AM  
they cling to their whining.

 
syrynxx [TotalFark] 2008-04-19 11:19:10 AM  
Dear Sir,
I object to being objected to by the last letter, before my drift has become apparent. I spent many years in India during the last war and am now a part-time notice board in a prominent public school.

Yours etc.,
Brigadier Zoe La Rue (deceased).

/PS Aghhh!

 
cameroncrazy1984 [TotalFark] 2008-04-19 11:19:47 AM  
thalidomide new and improved: It's okay. in about seven months, we'll forget about them both.

/it's a lock


Must be nice to live in the "old and crazy" universe. What's it like in there?

 
Carth 2008-04-19 11:37:03 AM  
thalidomide new and improved: It's okay. in about seven months, we'll forget about them both.

/it's a lock


As much as we'd like to forget about the President it is harder than you think.

 
Lawnchair 2008-04-19 11:39:31 AM  
Here is the failure of the debate. Bill Clinton's pardons are the Hillary's biggest totally unvetted piece of history.

SENATOR OBAMA: I'm going to have to respond to this just really quickly, but by Senator Clinton's own vetting standards, I don't think she would make it, since President Clinton pardoned or commuted the sentences of two members of the Weather Underground, which I think is a slightly more significant act than me (chatter chatter)

MR. GIBSON: And Senator Clinton, I'm getting out of balance in terms of time.

SENATOR CLINTON: I've noticed. (Laughs.)

MR. GIBSON: And you're getting shortchanged here. And so if you want to reply here, fine. If you want to wait, we'll do it in the next half hour.

SENATOR CLINTON: We can wait.

MR. GIBSON: All right.


That's *all* that was said about pardons. Never came back to it. The biggest turd in the Clinton legacy. Obama mentions it, and suddenly it's "Cut to commercial! Cut to commercial!"

 
deltabourne 2008-04-19 11:43:58 AM  
In before Obama supporters try pretend St. Obama has done no wrong and it's all Clinton's fault

 
Hobodeluxe [TotalFark] 2008-04-19 11:48:32 AM  
I hear Chelsea and Bill are moderating the next debate with Rush Limbaugh doing color commentating for ABC

 
cameroncrazy1984 [TotalFark] 2008-04-19 11:49:30 AM  
deltabourne: In before Obama supporters try pretend St. Obama has done no wrong and it's all Clinton's fault

Well before, it seems. No one is saying it IS Clinton's fault. It's ABC's fault for asking such retarded questions. Including the one about Tuzla.

 
Hobodeluxe [TotalFark] 2008-04-19 11:52:42 AM  
cameroncrazy1984: Well before, it seems. No one is saying it IS Clinton's fault. It's ABC's fault for asking such retarded questions. Including the one about Tuzla.

in which Clinton admitted she knowingly lied. and they went right away from that when she did. They didn't follow up with a "that's a pretty significant admission that you intentionally lied to the American people"

 
Dufus [TotalFark] 2008-04-19 12:00:58 PM  
Those two whine like a bad bearing in a jet engine.

 
Unright 2008-04-19 12:08:11 PM  
Dufus: Those two whine like a bad bearing in a jet engine.

Here, let me play you a tape of O'Reilly talking about the "War on Christmas".

Y'know. so you can re-calibrate to reality.

 
Dufus [TotalFark] 2008-04-19 12:15:01 PM  
Unright: Dufus: Those two whine like a bad bearing in a jet engine.

Here, let me play you a tape of O'Reilly talking about the "War on Christmas".

Y'know. so you can re-calibrate to reality.


I didn't say they were the only ones... just that they seem to be the loudest currently.

Politicians are the worms in our apple of happiness.

 
bwesb 2008-04-19 12:21:26 PM  
The only speeches I've seen where Obama talks about the debate are where he is smiling and making light of it. Hardly looks like whining to me but since the Clinton machine says it is whining, the mainstream media says it is whining, the GOP says it is whining, and of course the fundits (fundie/pundits like Hannity, Rush, etc.etc.) certainly think it is whining well shiat; it must be whining then. None of these people would have any ulterior motive in complaining about the complaining, would they?

What I would like to see is my candidate, Obama, start going hard at his opponent instead of letting her defeat herself. Since Slick has already said that "if you can't take the contact then don't put on the uniform" (from a guy who has never worn any uniform in his life) then to me - that signals that it is time to get it on. Knock that biatch out.

I understand the problems of attacking a woman politically but at some point Obama needs to make the case of why he is better - instead of letting her continue to point out why she is worse - if not the worst. Ever.

 
Spanky_McFarksalot 2008-04-19 12:22:10 PM  
Unright: O'Reilly talking about the "War on Christmas".

well, good thing he's not running for president

 
Tor_Eckman [TotalFark] 2008-04-19 12:27:19 PM  
Spanky_McFarksalot: Unright: O'Reilly talking about the "War on Christmas".

well, good thing he's not running for president


Reading comprehension -1

Or is it only candidates who can whine?

 
Hobodeluxe [TotalFark] 2008-04-19 12:28:36 PM  
bwesb: The only speeches I've seen where Obama talks about the debate are where he is smiling and making light of it. Hardly looks like whining to me but since the Clinton machine says it is whining, the mainstream media says it is whining, the GOP says it is whining, and of course the fundits (fundie/pundits like Hannity, Rush, etc.etc.) certainly think it is whining well shiat; it must be whining then. None of these people would have any ulterior motive in complaining about the complaining, would they?

What I would like to see is my candidate, Obama, start going hard at his opponent instead of letting her defeat herself. Since Slick has already said that "if you can't take the contact then don't put on the uniform" (from a guy who has never worn any uniform in his life) then to me - that signals that it is time to get it on. Knock that biatch out.

I understand the problems of attacking a woman politically but at some point Obama needs to make the case of why he is better - instead of letting her continue to point out why she is worse - if not the worst. Ever.


You're right about him going after her. The media and she love the female victim. They ate that up. So If I were him I'd go after her through Bill. Let's talk about Bill Clinton and his 800k from the Colombian free trade people. The people his wife was supposedly against. Why is it both Bill and her "former" campaign mgr Mark Penn have ties to these people? Is what you're telling these people who are your base the truth? You've already admitted you knowingly lied to them before. The Canadian govt said you gave them a wing and nudge on your NAFTA rhetoric. Can people believe you?

 
flavor of the month 2008-04-19 12:30:32 PM  
one thread below you can see that Obama's response to all this inanity has been to

get

that

dirt off his shoulder.

 
Spanky_McFarksalot 2008-04-19 12:33:31 PM  
Tor_Eckman: Or is it only candidates who can whine?

anyone can whine, as is proven in every political thread. It would be nice if a president didn't.

8 year of listening to bush whine is enough.

Of course I could just talk about how my aunt sally doesn't whine, it would be about as relevant as o'reilly to the thread but what the hell.

 
Smellvin 2008-04-19 12:36:19 PM  
Someone post that Calvin and Hobbes strip. I can't find it on GIS. :\

 
Unright 2008-04-19 12:36:58 PM  
Spanky_McFarksalot: anyone can whine, as is proven in every political thread. It would be nice if a president didn't.

Of course I could just talk about how my aunt sally doesn't whine, it would be about as relevant as o'reilly to the thread but what the hell.


It's a comparison. When you compare the amount of "whining" that Clinton & Obama are doing compared to the level of whining that a proffessional (like O'Reilly) puts out, then you'll see the the Dem candidates are pretty minimal.

 
LonMead 2008-04-19 12:45:01 PM  
And we all know what goes well with whine?

www.cooperis.com

 
Spanky_McFarksalot 2008-04-19 12:45:36 PM  
Unright: then you'll see the the Dem candidates are pretty minimal.

My aunt doesn't whine hardly at all. Compared to her, the democrats running for freakin president whine constantly.

Comparing apples (tv commentator) and oranges (candidates who want to run the freaken country).

But that's just my view. Yours is differant. Its what makes america and fark so much fun.

Off to paint a garage.

 
Unright 2008-04-19 12:51:49 PM  
Spanky_McFarksalot: But that's just my view. Yours is differant. Its what makes america and fark so much fun.

Well, that's true.

Off to paint a garage.

Um.. have fun?

/or open a window, whichever...

 
CravenMorehead 2008-04-19 12:55:40 PM  
Clinton: "Why are you picking on me? The MSM is being mean and treating me unfairly".

Obama: "Why do you keep asking me stupid questions about lapel pins and pastors?"

See the difference?

 
poohneat 2008-04-19 01:03:04 PM  

 
NeverDrunk23 2008-04-19 01:11:06 PM  
I just want this to be over and we can focus on the real election.

 
Spontaneous Defenstration 2008-04-19 01:21:40 PM  
rush_limbaugh_sent_me

4/10, good attempt, made me laugh.

 
NeverDrunk23 2008-04-19 01:26:46 PM  
CravenMorehead: Clinton: "Why are you picking on me? The MSM is being mean and treating me unfairly".

Obama: "Why do you keep asking me stupid questions about lapel pins and pastors?"

See the difference?



You're damn right I do! Obama is avoiding the real issues here, that bastard. I need to know his stance on flag pins so I know who to vote for!

 
McStinky 2008-04-19 01:26:49 PM  
FTA: "Just speaking for myself, I am very comfortable in the kitchen."

Just don't ask her to make cookies.

/She just makes it so easy

 
Insertwitty Namehere 2008-04-19 01:33:02 PM  
Not Good (new window)

 
Sabyen91 [TotalFark] 2008-04-19 01:44:40 PM  
Insertwitty Namehere: Not Good (new window)

Eh, Newsweek has Obama up by 19 points. Polls suck and Gallup is one of the worst.

 
flavor of the month 2008-04-19 01:49:38 PM  
rush_limbaugh_sent_me: He essentially proclaimed that not wearing a lapel pin somehow made him more patriotic.



it does. craven GOP worms have no actual patriotism to offer, so they use shiny trinkets as a substitute.

 
Unright 2008-04-19 01:51:25 PM  
rush_limbaugh_sent_me: Is tthat the best you can do, Obama X apologist? :)

img340.imageshack.us

/recycled

 
steamingpile 2008-04-19 02:15:22 PM  
RandomExcess: One thing Obama is NOT whining about is his endorsement by Hamas.

Im still waiting for someone to post what obama has done during his office terms, either in Chicago or Washington. Every time I ask some idiot posts his voting record which is not necessarily a good thing since it shows him voting for everything the democratic party wants.

He hasnt championed shiat, didnt fix anything while in chicago, and the only thing I can see about him being different is that hes black. Other than that hes the same as hillary or any other democrat they would run out there. And as for him being against the war, thats easy on a small local stage but you can guarantee that he would have been right in line with other democrats if he were in national office. His voting records prove that he wouldnt go against what his party wanted.

I dont think he would win in a general election but it wouldnt matter since nothing would change and he would still do exactly what the dems want him to do.

/this country desperately needs a 3rd party
//or 4th
///5th
////etc.....

 
SomeoneDumb 2008-04-19 02:22:00 PM  
Sabyen91: Insertwitty Namehere: Not Good (new window)

Eh, Newsweek has Obama up by 19 points. Polls suck and Gallup is one of the worst.


Still, if Gallup sucks consistently for the same reasons each time, it does show a trend I'm not happy with.

 
Phil Moskowitz 2008-04-19 02:24:35 PM  
rush_limbaugh_sent_me: Spontaneous Defenstration: rush_limbaugh_sent_me

4/10, good attempt, made me laugh.

Is tthat the best you can do, Obama X apologist? :)


What are you? If you're not some paid creation, you're some depressing anomaly that would make the most stalwart person weep.

 
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