I'm sorry, but are we certain anyone ever cared?

how can this be?

Jefferson Airplane was one of the greatest bands ever.

then starship came to be and one of their songs was voted the worst rock and roll song of all time.

how the mighty have fallen.

What about Jefferson Stagecoach?

Or the Jefferson Zepplin?


huh? huh?

They're playing a high-school dance or fund raiser here in Maine.

/or whoever it is that calls themselves Jefferson Starship now.

//so yeah, who cares?

I've been waiting for Jefferson Starship Troopers.

Archie Goodwin: I've been waiting for Jefferson Starship Troopers.

...or Jefferson Star Wars?

"Help me Wheezy Wan Kanobi!"

Occam'sLadySchick
how can this be?

Jefferson Airplane was one of the greatest bands ever.

then starship came to be and one of their songs was voted the worst rock and roll song of all time.

how the mighty have fallen

Actually, the band was just called "Starship" at that point and Grace was the only original JA member in the group at the time.

I saw Kanter's Jefferson Starship about 3 years ago. It was great.

good for holiday specials, i guess

LaChanz: "Help me Wheezy Wan Kanobi!"

Heh!

HappyHarryHardOn

Double heh!

We have no bananas today.

Saw Airplane at Trenton Speedway with Papa John Creach!

Starship sucks.

Frieberg and Balin can still sing. Kantner should hang it up at this point.

Grand Funk Railroad paved the way for Jefferson Airplane which cleared the way for Jefferson Starship. The stage was now set for the Alan Parson's project, which i believe was some sort of hovercraft.

/favourite Simpson's quote ever
//that is all
///return to your farking

One of my friends was in a band called Jefferson shiathouse. Best band name ever.

zappaisfrank: Occam'sLadySchick
how can this be?

Jefferson Airplane was one of the greatest bands ever.

then starship came to be and one of their songs was voted the worst rock and roll song of all time.

how the mighty have fallen

Actually, the band was just called "Starship" at that point and Grace was the only original JA member in the group at the time.

According to Wikipedia, the "Jefferson Starship" moniker was first used on side projects by Paul Kantner and/or Grace Slick, especially "Blows Against the Empire". Then with Jefferson Airplane falling apart, as Jorma Korkanen and Paul Casady had left to start Hot Tuna, Kantner and Slick recruited a new band and recristened it "Jefferson Starship" to indicate a change in direction. Marty Balin wasn't in JS at first, but he came in later and provided some of their biggest hits.

JS was far more AOR than JA was from the beginning, but things really went to shiat when Grace Slick became such an out-of-control drunk -- including one of the most epic meltdowns of all time, in which she started cursing out a German audience for the atrocities of WWII -- that they had to fire her, and they brought in shiatmaster Mickey Thomas.

And, as noted above, when the only original member of JA left in the band was Grace Slick, who'd rejoined after being kicked out, Kantner sued Thomas et. al. for using the name "Jefferson Starship", and they went to just "Starship."

krazydiamond: Grand Funk Railroad paved the way for Jefferson Airplane which cleared the way for Jefferson Starship. The stage was now set for the Alan Parson's project, which i believe was some sort of hovercraft.

I used to rock 'n roll all night and party ev-ery-day. Then it was every other day. Now I'm lucky if I can find half an hour a week in which to get funky.

Wow, Slick and Kantner look OLD in those photos!

HappyHarryHardOn: PWNED, you hotlinking monkey you ...

Kozmopoliskepticalopsis:

Wow, Slick and Kantner look OLD in those photos!


Newsflashiathey ARE old!

Paul Kantner: 67
Grace Slick: 68

The black hole of suck that was Jefferson Starship is merely a refection of the awesomeness that is Jorma Kaukonen and Jack Casady.

Is Marconi still allowed to play the mamba?

Filter says: ! = i

Who knew?

Hey! I care...well, sort of.

Paul is my great grandmother's sister's son.

(Does that make him a second or third cousin...? I am uncertain.)

/met him once. at a family funeral; he looked no more sober than the rest of the relations
//I was 12.

I always enjoyed the song "Nothing's Gonna Stop Us Now" because it features a gearshift akin to that in "Crazy Nights."

DrBenway: Paul Kantner: 67
Grace Slick: 68

Dude's almost 70...let him play his music; she's not even doing any music projects anymore...


The black hole of suck that was Jefferson Starship is merely a refection of the awesomeness that is Jorma Kaukonen and Jack Casady.

They had some good songs in the '70's , i.e. "Miracles"

inert: Is Marconi still allowed to play the mamba?

Listen to the radio.

Kozmopoliskepticalopsis:
HappyHarryHardOn: PWNED, you hotlinking monkey you ...

A monkey can't even write his own damn name. I don't think there is a documented case of a monkey hotlinking.

zvoidx:

They had some good songs in the '70's , i.e. "Miracles"

I've always enjoyed any version of Airplane/Starship that included Marty Balin. "Miracles" is a classic

/MEH

as a singer in a late sixties acid band who wants to dose nixon, im getting high from these responses.....

DrBenway: Kozmopoliskepticalopsis:

Wow, Slick and Kantner look OLD in those photos!


Newsflashiathey ARE old!

Paul Kantner: 67
Grace Slick: 68

The black hole of suck that was Jefferson Starship is merely a refection of the awesomeness that is Jorma Kaukonen and Jack Casady.



Yeah, I'm getting up there myself. I just refuse to admit it.

I lost interest in Jefferson Airplane after Volunteers. And whatever happened to Hot Tuna anyway?

/Lawn. Off.

Jefferson Hybrid

I wonder if Kantner's Starship ever gets booked to play the same county fair as Mickey Thomas' Starship.

Hot Tuna still going strong after 35+ years. If you don't know Jorma, you don't know Jack,,,

Just thought I'd post to back up those who are saying 'Miracles' is a brilliant song. It absolutely is that.

Too bad about the whole Mickey Thomas thing but I guess the band went to shiat long before he came around.

Slick left Jefferson Starship first to pursue a solo career that went nowhere. "Freedom From Point Zero" was the Boobies-Balin post-Slick Album with "Jane" as the hit single. After Slick's solo album "Dreams" fizzled, Grace Slick came back to Jefferson Starship for the album, "Modern Times."

After that, Kantner broke from the band he formed out of the ashes of Jefferson Airplane for good. My understanding was that Paul took the moniker "Jefferson" for his personal usage, even though Marty Balin coined "Jefferson Airplane" all by himself. And pretty much GAVE he Slick the The really IRONIC thing about Jefferon Airplane/Starshiplegal rights to the name "Starship." (Which is why the band, post-Kantner, became "Starship.")

The REALLY IRONIC thing about Jefferson Airplane/Starship is about how Kantner and Slick STOLE Marty's band, Jefferson Airplane, out from underneath him in the 60s. (JA, was Marty's original creation. He recruited Kantner and Slick to support HIS band.) Then Marty STOLE Jefferson Starship for Kantner and Slick, giving them ALL their hits in the 70s. ("Caroline", "Miracles", "With Your Love", "Count On Me.")

Stairway to Cleveland
Find Your Way Back
No Way Out

That is all.

krazydiamond: Grand Funk Railroad paved the way for Jefferson Airplane which cleared the way for Jefferson Starship. The stage was now set for the Alan Parson's project, which i believe was some sort of hovercraft.

But why isn't my baby gaining weight?

/yeah, I went there
/first ten minutes of that ep were funny, but then it went to pot.

sunsawed: "Freedom From Point Zero" was the boobies-Balin post-Slick Album with "Jane" as the hit single.

Random filer PWNAGE makes me giggle.

I admit: I owned a Tshirt that said STARSHIP in the late
70's.

My only excuse was that I was young & naieve, a completely
uncritical SF fan who only thought 'Cool, its a STARSHIP!'

/Somewhat less uncritical. Being a Farker helps with that

sonnyboy11:

Just thought I'd post to back up those who are saying 'Miracles' is a brilliant song. It absolutely is tha shiat.


FTFM, anyway, if not for everyone else. Always thought it was the worst kind of dreck.

Late posting, but I liked "Miracles." I normally don't like that kind of "soft rock," but that was a real gem. I remember an older relative giving me that album for Xmas the year it came out, I guess I was about 15 or so. With lyrics like "I had a taste of the real world when I went down on you girl," it was "cool" because they sort of snuck it in and it's still not censored (that I've ever heard) on Classic Rock FM stations.

But I have heard live recordings of JS where the vocalists can't hear each other and sing terribly out of tune and sound as bad as anything I've heard from a heard-of band. Truly dreadful.

Musicology101: I saw Kanter's Jefferson Starship

featuring Herman Menderchuck?

Recent setlist - 3 hours of music:

April 4, 2008
The State Theatre
Falls Church, VA

Disc 01: (1:11:45)
01. She Has Funny Cars
02. Lawman (Darby)
03. Somebody To Love (Cathy)
04. Lather (Cathy)
05. Count On Me
06. Today
07. Ride The Tiger
08. Get Together
09. Caroline
10. Miracles
11. With Your Love
12. Runaway
13. Hearts

----------
Disc 02: (48:53)
01. Harp Tree Lament
02. The Ballad Of The Chrome Nun (Linda)
03. Fresh Air

Mini-set of songs from the forthcoming album:
04. Cowboy On the Run
05. Pastures Of Plenty
06. Preamble to the Constitution of the United States
07. The Chimes Of Freedom
08. Wasn't That A Time
09. Kisses Sweeter Than Wine
10. Follow The Drinking Gourd
11. Rising Of The Moon

-----------
Disc 03: (58:47)
01. Genesis Hall
02. It's No Secret
03. Hyperdrive (Darby)
04. St. Charles
05. Wooden Ships
06. White Rabbit (Cathy)
07. Jane
08. Diana>
09. Pride (In the Name of Love)>
10. Volunteers
Encores.
11. Coming Back To Me
12. We Can Be Together

Musicians:
Paul Kantner
Marty Balin
David Freiberg
Cathy Richardson
Darby Gould
Slick Aguilar
Chris Smith
Donny Baldwin
Linda Imperial

re: DrBenway @ 2008-04-20 11:00:42 AM

Sunday morning html fail. Apologies, kids.

Then and now. Scary.

jefferson starship - blows against the empire 1970


blows against the empire wikpedia entry (new window)

the first incarnation of the jefferson starship was produced a truely fine album that was arguably the culmination of the sanfrancisco/psychedelic scene. the band's lineup included the likes of

Paul Kantner - Electric AcousticRhythm Guitar / Vocals Banjo
Grace Slick - Piano / Vocals
Peter Kaukonen - Lead Guitar
Joey Covington - Drums Congas
Jerry Garcia - Banjo Pedal Steel Guitar
Bill Kreutzmann - Drums
David Crosby - Lead Guitar / Vocals
Jack Casady - Bass
Graham Nash - Congas
Phil Sawyer, Graham Nash - Sound Effects
Mickey Hart - Percussion
Harvey Brooks - Bass
David Freiberg - Vocals

i've still got the cd and enjoy it.