Are there any Dem Farkers that actually support Clinton left that are willing to justify this?

The biggest joke is that she thinks MoveOn is the source of Obama's huge mountain of cash.

It's sad to see her and McCain using the same attacks on Obama. She should run on the Republican ticket if shes going to write their attacks for them.

Bat.
Shiat.
Crazy.

She seems kind of like Bush in that she, with the aid of a small coetrie of loyal sycophants, would like to be in total control of everything without having to bother with that whole pesky democracy/participation thing.

The difference between her statements about MoveOn.org before they chose Obama and after are very telling.

Link (new window)

Holy farking crap.

If this is true, as written, she is really, really farking toast.

"Thanks for founding the website to help my husband!"

I also heard she doesn't wear a flag lapel pin.


Sorry, I don't like Hillary, but I'm not sure this is any more of an issue than "bittergate"

SilentStrider: Sorry, I don't like Hillary, but I'm not sure this is any more of an issue than "bittergate"

Yes, yes it is. Because MoveOn didn't even want us to go into Afghanistan. I mean, that's what we're dealing with.

is something that only Republican attack dogs say, and she's saying it.

She must think the internet is composed of the youtube, moveon.org and CNN and that's it.

So... Hillary... how's that turnabout thing workin' out for ya?

Is this really a surprise?

Wil_Mahfingahdo: It's sad to see her and McCain using the same attacks on Obama. She should run on the Republican ticket if shes going to write their attacks for them.

What? Obama clearly ahs nothing against the Hil-Dog, my amiforus amigo. She will win PA, and go on to switch the superdelagetes to her side. I'm thinking Either Bloomberg or Liberman as a running mate for MICcain, so Hil-Dog will poick al Gore and for the victory.

This won't mean very much. They already endorsed her opponent.

Ooops.

She probably didn't want that to get out.

Jon Snow: Are there any Dem Farkers that actually support Clinton left that are willing to justify this?



Nice red strawman, not goin to work. Try harder.

Tacoby Bellisbury: Wil_Mahfingahdo: It's sad to see her and McCain using the same attacks on Obama. She should run on the Republican ticket if shes going to write their attacks for them.

What? Obama clearly ahs nothing against the Hil-Dog, my amiforus amigo. She will win PA, and go on to switch the superdelagetes to her side. I'm thinking Either Bloomberg or Liberman as a running mate for MICcain, so Hil-Dog will poick al Gore and for the victory.

Could you repeat that in english?

Fart_Machine: Tacoby Bellisbury: Wil_Mahfingahdo: It's sad to see her and McCain using the same attacks on Obama. She should run on the Republican ticket if shes going to write their attacks for them.

What? Obama clearly ahs nothing against the Hil-Dog, my amiforus amigo. She will win PA, and go on to switch the superdelagetes to her side. I'm thinking Either Bloomberg or Liberman as a running mate for MICcain, so Hil-Dog will poick al Gore and for the victory.

Could you repeat that in english?

T-R-O-L-L

Looks like it's a new alt for that dude who keeps showing up with new Hillary-fan alts ^_^

Tacoby Bellisbury: Nice red strawman, not goin to work. Try harder.

Okay, somebody is posting while totally goddamn hammered.

/and it's not me, unfortunately.

bronyaur1: Bat.
Shiat.
Crazy.

Maybe. I am no Hillary fan but perhaps she's just playing rough and tumble.

The ultimate test will be her reaction when Obama get the nomination. If she rallies around the flag and campaigns for him, all will be forgiven. If she just walks away then her future in politics is toast.

hillbillypharmacist [TotalFark] Quote 2008-04-18 11:46:48 PM
The biggest joke is that she thinks MoveOn is the source of Obama's huge mountain of cash.

Even bigger joke is that she blames them for all her causus problems in places like Nevada when, guess what, MoveOn didn't endorse Obama till after that.

i'd say the grits could hit the pan here

she sounds bitter

Fart_Machine: Tacoby Bellisbury: Wil_Mahfingahdo: It's sad to see her and McCain using the same attacks on Obama. She should run on the Republican ticket if shes going to write their attacks for them.

What? Obama clearly ahs nothing against the Hil-Dog, my amiforus amigo. She will win PA, and go on to switch the superdelagetes to her side. I'm thinking Either Bloomberg or Liberman as a running mate for MICcain, so Hil-Dog will poick al Gore and for the victory.

Could you repeat that in english?

what are you deaf

SilentStrider [TotalFark] Quote 2008-04-19 12:24:17 AM
I also heard she doesn't wear a flag lapel pin.


Sorry, I don't like Hillary, but I'm not sure this is any more of an issue than "bittergate"

What do you mean by "issue"? Is it something that the average voter should or will care about? Maybe not.

But she is insulting liberal activists. She is trashing a large segment of her own party. Hell, not just any old segment, but arguably THE most important segment. Liberal activists are the ones going out there and organizing, doing voter drives, raising cash and so on.

What the fark is she thinking?

She might as well just diss black voters or northeasteners.

Come on, Pennsylvania, end this thing already. This is getting ridiculous.

Fart_Machine Quote 2008-04-19 12:52:11 AM
This won't mean very much. They already endorsed her opponent.


She didn't just diss MoveOn, she dissed "liberal activists"

Guess what? Most of the Super Delegates who aren't elected officials are, gasp, LIBERAL ACTIVISTS!!!

Tacoby Bellisbury: what are you deaf

LOL

Was that existential sarcasm?

The Afghanistan thing is false, but the rest of it's a non-story, because she's trashed her own party through this whole campaign. Hopefully Obama will continue to take the high road and not address this.

SilentStrider: Sorry, I don't like Hillary, but I'm not sure this is any more of an issue than "bittergate"

I agree that the mainstream media won't care too much (although Olbermann and Maddow already called it boldly stupid), but there are already 1000 posts at DailyKos about this, and over 2300 of HuffPost... and on a Friday night. Most of those already were for Obama, I'll bet, but boy are they pissed.

Pissed off, that is. Not pissed like Farkers on a Friday.

Then again, the sheer irony of Hillary dissing a group created to protect her husband... that's rich, and people will comment on it.

SilentStrider: I also heard she doesn't wear a flag lapel pin.


Sorry, I don't like Hillary, but I'm not sure this is any more of an issue than "bittergate"

Oh, it isn't. But, the thing is, the media played bittergate up like crazy. If they don't play this up, when it's almost exactly the same thing, then everyone should be able to see the bias. I mean. . . if they ever hear about this.

There's also that Clinton isn't even right about the positions of her supposed omnipresent opponents and Obama's "bitter" comments get proven at the next debate in the form of a women with a flag pin fetish.

Bill Frist: But she is insulting liberal activists. She is trashing a large segment of her own party. Hell, not just any old segment, but arguably THE most important segment. Liberal activists are the ones going out there and organizing, doing voter drives, raising cash and so on.

No, that's just dumb. Shes separating herself from what are arguable detremental forces. She is centeralizing to appeal to her true base.

Tacoby Bellisbury: Fart_Machine: Tacoby Bellisbury: Wil_Mahfingahdo: It's sad to see her and McCain using the same attacks on Obama. She should run on the Republican ticket if shes going to write their attacks for them.

What? Obama clearly ahs nothing against the Hil-Dog, my amiforus amigo. She will win PA, and go on to switch the superdelagetes to her side. I'm thinking Either Bloomberg or Liberman as a running mate for MICcain, so Hil-Dog will poick al Gore and for the victory.

Could you repeat that in english?

what are you deaf

Ok that was funny. However I can't read gibberish.

She is centeralizing to appeal to her true base.

I repeat, again, that a large segment of super delegates are liberal activists. Hill-dog's only chance is to get the super delegates to overturn the voters. This is not the way to do it.

This isn't important.

gula is important.

Crazy. Maybe this "intimidation" thing does happen in some places, but up here in our corner of WA there was no animosity to be seen between Obama and Clinton supporters. There were more of us (O), and the camps disagreed on some finer points, sure. There was some back and forth kidding, but it was all amiable.

Hillary is seeming paranoid, these days. Not kidding. I guess maybe I would be too, if I'd been under seige by a political smear machine, but I think in that case I might be too deranged to be allowed to dispense political payback from our highest office.

Bill Frist: SilentStrider [TotalFark] Quote 2008-04-19 12:24:17 AM
I also heard she doesn't wear a flag lapel pin.


Sorry, I don't like Hillary, but I'm not sure this is any more of an issue than "bittergate"

What do you mean by "issue"? Is it something that the average voter should or will care about? Maybe not.

But she is insulting liberal activists. She is trashing a large segment of her own party. Hell, not just any old segment, but arguably THE most important segment. Liberal activists are the ones going out there and organizing, doing voter drives, raising cash and so on.

What the fark is she thinking?

She might as well just diss black voters or northeasteners.

Give her time...

Flying Code Monkey: Crazy. Maybe this "intimidation" thing does happen in some places, but up here in our corner of WA there was no animosity to be seen between Obama and Clinton supporters. There were more of us (O), and the camps disagreed on some finer points, sure. There was some back and forth kidding, but it was all amiable.

Hillary is seeming paranoid, these days. Not kidding. I guess maybe I would be too, if I'd been under seige by a political smear machine, but I think in that case I might be too deranged to be allowed to dispense political payback from our highest office.

Considering that Hillary has been the one to denigrate her opposition in an attempt to make herself look better, "intimidation" is a huge stretch...

Tacoby Bellisbury: Bill Frist: But she is insulting liberal activists. She is trashing a large segment of her own party. Hell, not just any old segment, but arguably THE most important segment. Liberal activists are the ones going out there and organizing, doing voter drives, raising cash and so on.

No, that's just dumb. Shes separating herself from what are arguable detremental forces. She is centeralizing to appeal to her true base.

And that is, what? The thin slice of people racist enough to not vote for Barrack Obama because he's black, but too liberal to vote for McCain? What's Hillary's base if NOT the activist? Frankly, she's been outclasses in all her best areas by Obama (he's quite liberal, has similar proposals, only they seem somewhat better, and he has all the Hillary liberalism without the Hillary baggage and shillism), and the only thing she has left to turn to, the Reagan democrats, if they paid any attention to her record, would see that she is absolutely NOT the DINO she portrays herself as nowadays. Obama might have trouble against a more moderate democrat (Or a more radical one) but against Hillary she basically only has a base left that she has spent years ignoring and McCain is all ready in a better position to tap.

Bill Frist: Fart_Machine Quote 2008-04-19 12:52:11 AM
This won't mean very much. They already endorsed her opponent.


She didn't just diss MoveOn, she dissed "liberal activists"

Guess what? Most of the Super Delegates who aren't elected officials are, gasp, LIBERAL ACTIVISTS!!!

Except the activist wing never forgave her for voting for the Iraq War.

Bill Frist: She is centeralizing to appeal to her true base.

I repeat, again, that a large segment of super delegates are liberal activists. Hill-dog's only chance is to get the super delegates to overturn the voters. This is not the way to do it.

That is in no way true. Are you one of them? Do you want to feel like you have a say in this?

Yea, Bill Frist, you are very important! I swear!

So....Democrats don't have an activist base?

RemyDuron: Tacoby Bellisbury: Bill Frist: But she is insulting liberal activists. She is trashing a large segment of her own party. Hell, not just any old segment, but arguably THE most important segment. Liberal activists are the ones going out there and organizing, doing voter drives, raising cash and so on.

No, that's just dumb. Shes separating herself from what are arguable detremental forces. She is centeralizing to appeal to her true base.

And that is, what? The thin slice of people racist enough to not vote for Barrack Obama because he's black, but too liberal to vote for McCain? What's Hillary's base if NOT the activist? Frankly, she's been outclasses in all her best areas by Obama (he's quite liberal, has similar proposals, only they seem somewhat better, and he has all the Hillary liberalism without the Hillary baggage and shillism), and the only thing she has left to turn to, the Reagan democrats, if they paid any attention to her record, would see that she is absolutely NOT the DINO she portrays herself as nowadays. Obama might have trouble against a more moderate democrat (Or a more radical one) but against Hillary she basically only has a base left that she has spent years ignoring and McCain is all ready in a better position to tap.

Wow, the handle really fits the douche on you, man

The ironic thing is, this was probably found in response to the unearthing of Obama's "bitter" comments. Hillary's team released a tape of him saying some stupid things behind closed doors, so Obama's team is going to get her right back. And I think this has the potential to be more damaging, as it just adds to her list of lies right before the primary.

Tacoby Bellisbury: Bill Frist: But she is insulting liberal activists. She is trashing a large segment of her own party. Hell, not just any old segment, but arguably THE most important segment. Liberal activists are the ones going out there and organizing, doing voter drives, raising cash and so on.

No, that's just dumb. Shes separating herself from what are arguable detremental forces. She is centeralizing to appeal to her true base.

Separating herself from folks like PETA is smart. Calling MoveOn detrimental, that's just begging to get folks to start calling their reps and some of those pesky Supers...

cousin-merle: This isn't important.

(Arooooooo.jpg)gula is important.

I see what you did there. I've heard at night he goes into people's houses and wrecks up the place.

/I'd vote for Robo-Nixon over Hillary

Tacoby Bellisbury: Bill Frist: She is centeralizing to appeal to her true base.

I repeat, again, that a large segment of super delegates are liberal activists. Hill-dog's only chance is to get the super delegates to overturn the voters. This is not the way to do it.

That is in no way true. Are you one of them? Do you want to feel like you have a say in this?

Yea, Bill Frist, you are very important! I swear!

So they'll overturn the voters and destroy the party to prevent the better spoken candidate who people, by a large majority, see as having more integrity and honesty and likability, in order to put up someone the Right's been smearing for over a decade, has been caught openly baldfaced lying in order to make herself look better, and has flip flopped on many issues? Why would the superdels risk GRIEVOUS harm to the future of the party in order to put up the weaker candidate?

Tacoby Bellisbury Quote 2008-04-19 01:07:15 AM
Bill Frist: She is centeralizing to appeal to her true base.

I repeat, again, that a large segment of super delegates are liberal activists. Hill-dog's only chance is to get the super delegates to overturn the voters. This is not the way to do it.

That is in no way true.

What are you, farking retarded? Its "in no way true" that many super delegates are Democratic activists?

How massively ignorant about this topic are you? Why are you even posting if you don't know jack shiat about the topic?

Jebus.... some kids these days.

Tacoby Bellisbury: RemyDuron: Tacoby Bellisbury: Bill Frist: But she is insulting liberal activists. She is trashing a large segment of her own party. Hell, not just any old segment, but arguably THE most important segment. Liberal activists are the ones going out there and organizing, doing voter drives, raising cash and so on.

No, that's just dumb. Shes separating herself from what are arguable detremental forces. She is centeralizing to appeal to her true base.

And that is, what? The thin slice of people racist enough to not vote for Barrack Obama because he's black, but too liberal to vote for McCain? What's Hillary's base if NOT the activist? Frankly, she's been outclasses in all her best areas by Obama (he's quite liberal, has similar proposals, only they seem somewhat better, and he has all the Hillary liberalism without the Hillary baggage and shillism), and the only thing she has left to turn to, the Reagan democrats, if they paid any attention to her record, would see that she is absolutely NOT the DINO she portrays herself as nowadays. Obama might have trouble against a more moderate democrat (Or a more radical one) but against Hillary she basically only has a base left that she has spent years ignoring and McCain is all ready in a better position to tap.

Wow, the handle really fits the douche on you, man

. . . what? Uh, obscure to me, whatever you're talking about.l

And that is, what? The thin slice of people racist enough to not vote for Barrack Obama because he's black, but too liberal to vote for McCain? What's Hillary's base if NOT the activist?

Hillary's base is white women, old people and low-information voters.