that was silly, but i liked it

DOUGLAS: He didn't answer the question Charlie. This fall, that question is going to be on the minds of the American public. I've proudly stated that my love for America is Very Berry Strawberry.

Heh.

+1 would lol again

It's funny because it's true.

+1 from me

GIBSON: If your love for America were ice cream, what flavor would it be?

Atvar: It's funny because it's true.

It's very funny.

lol that was gold, Jerry, gold!

if my love for America were ice cream, it would be...caramel with a melted mars bar and coconut.

Mr. Lincoln: Do you believe in the sky?

Oh gee, more libtard Obamite whining because their savior got asked some tough questions! What a surprise!



/did I do that right?
//in before skinnyrandomHOVMFLsemper et al

Mr. Lincoln you opponent Mr. Douglas has come under scrutiny for saying he was under seige in Tulsa which im not going to ask him about but my question to you is, Do you believe in the American flag?

Tor_Eckman: Oh gee, more libtard Obamite whining because their savior got asked some tough questions! What a surprise!



/did I do that right?
//in before skinnyrandomHOVMFLsemper et al

i like it but you should say something insanely untrue supporting Hillary if you really want people to bite

I laughed... then I thought about it some more... and then I cried.

FTFA comments:

Stephanopolous: Does Reverend Wright love America as much as you do?

Obama: . . . [laughs bitterly]

Stephanopolous: Is this funny to you, Senator?

Obama: No, it isn't. . . . It's tragic.

Stephanopolous: [impatiently] Do you have an answer to the question, Senator?

Obama: Absolutely. My answer is that I don't have the first damn clue. Reverend Wright voluntarily gave up his student deferment and joined the Marine Corps during the war in Vietnam. Maybe he did it for the perks. I'm an educated man, but I'm afraid I can't speak intelligently about the relative patriotism of Jeremiah Wright. I knew him as a man of God.

[clears throat]

Now, are these the questions I was really called here to answer? Preachers and flag pins? Please tell me that you have something more, Mr. Stephanopolous. Among so many other critical issues facing the American people, the lives of serving US Marines are at stake in this election. Please tell me their moderator hasn't pinned their hopes to a flag pin.

Hillary Clinton: [taps nose]

Gold.

Pretty funny stuff.

It's a pretty sure bet that Lincoln would never be elected in today's TV-soundbite-oriented, 24/7 news environment.

That's a little too accurate to be funny.

I see the cult of Obama is still raging over the fact that ABC made their messiah look bad.

randomjsa: I see randomjsa the cult of Obama is still an idiot raging over the fact that ABC made their messiah look bad.


FTFY

Face it, Obama an his minions have lost their mojo.

The bloom is off that rose.

NYZooMan: Face it, Obama an his minions have lost their mojo.

The bloom is off that rose.

Or we're just letting you guys vent your aggressions so your thoughts can clear up enough for you to vote for Obama

That nicely sums up the unintelligent media coverage of politics in general. Who cares about the issues at hand..... let's sling some mud and get people riled.

tukatz: That nicely sums up the unintelligent media coverage of politics in general. Who cares about the issues at hand..... let's sling some mud and get people riled.

Yeah, Thompson better be glad he got out of the race. Gibson would have nailed him on his hatred for the Russian people.
"Mr. Thompson, you are famously quoted as saying that 'Ruskies don't take a dump without a plan.' Is it your belief that Russian people are so ordered and strict that they do not empty their bowels without a set of instructions or were you simply saying that they are unintelligent?"

tukatz: That nicely sums up the unintelligent media coverage of politics in general. Who cares about the issues at hand..... let's sling some mud and get people riled.

It's working. The latest theme at Hillaryis44.org is that Obama is "Scarily Unpatriotic".

67 Beetle: Pretty funny stuff.

It's a pretty sure bet that Lincoln would never be elected in today's TV-soundbite-oriented, 24/7 news environment.

If the ballot were not split 4 ways, including a divided Democrat Party, I doubt Lincoln would have won in 1860. The entire South went for Breckinridge. If it were between Lincoln and Douglas. I can't envision any scenario in which Lincoln wins the South in a 2-way race.

This continued raging against ABC by the Obama fans is hilarious. Even if they were bad questions you wouldn't even have cared if he'd given good answers... Which is the real reason you're so pissy about it.

randomjsa: This continued raging against ABC by the Obama fans is hilarious. Even if they were bad questions you wouldn't even have cared if he'd given good answers... Which is the real reason you're so pissy about it.

Nope. I thought the Tuzla question was stupid as well. I don't care about crap gotcha games by the media. I also wouldn't approve of a debate question asking McCain if he could prove that he wasn't brainwashed by the Viet Cong.

Now go post a picture of empty packaging or something.

MY POLITICAL OPINION IS BETTER THAN YOURS!!!11! AND SO IS MY TASTE IN MUSIC!!1!!OMFG LOL BBQ

I don't care whether it's a candidate I'm supporting or not, I'd rather that in a debate, moderators ask questions on the issues and not on rehashing every minor political smear.

Back a few years ago, I even called the station that was hosting the debate in the Florida senate race to complain because it was like 25 minutes in to the debate and Tim Russert had done nothing but hammer both candidates about what kind of ties they had Sami Al Arian (new window). "He taught at the university you ran, why didn't you fire him", "Oh, but you've got ties to him too, there's a picture from the Strawberry Festival that has both of you in the picture", etc, etc. That kind of debate is a joke, and it distracts everybody from the issues that actually matter.

randomjsa: I see the cult of Obama is still raging over the fact that ABC made their messiah look bad.

From the actual debate, Obama's opinion on Hillary's claim to have 'run with (her) head down' for fear of sniper fire:

But, look, the fact of the matter is, is that both of us are working as hard as we can to make sure that we're delivering a message to the American people about what we would do as president. Sometimes that message is going to be imperfectly delivered because we are recorded every minute of every day.

And I think Senator Clinton deserves the right to make some errors once in a while. Obviously, I make some as well.

I think what's important is to make sure that we don't get so
obsessed with gaffes that we lose sight of the fact that this is a defining moment in our history. We are going to be tackling some of the biggest issues that any president has dealt with in the last 40 years.

Contrast this to Clinton's response about the 'does Reverend Wright love America' topic:

And it is something that I think deserves further exploration
because clearly, what we've got to figure out is how we're going to bring people together in a way that overcomes the anger, overcomes the divisiveness and whatever bitterness there may be out there.

Hillary got caught in a repeated lie, not simply a poorly-worded extemporization, and Obama defended her right to make mistakes. Obama was asked about the patriotism of his pastor, and Hillary said that question 'deserves further exploration', including the buzzword 'bitter' for extra salt in the wound.

He's not the Messiah, he's a very naughty boy classy person.

I put randomjsa on ignore yesterday, but I still see his crap.

I don't even KNOW what anyone's replies were to the debate questions, nor do I WANT to know. Those were infantile questions, undeserving of answers.

The debates were nothing but an infomercial for the Republican Party - an attempt to smear both Democrats equally, regardless of how much you have to make up or exaggerate, while absolutely nothing of positive substance was discussed or debated. No one came out of the debate looking better. No one came out with greater voter confidence or support based upon their performance in the debate, when the questions they were asked might as well have included the question "given your obvious hatred for America and the American people, what would you name a puppy if you were given one by the child of a Republican?" It is both inane and inescapably vapid in its insinuations.

NYZooMan: Face it, Obama an his minions have lost their mojo.

The bloom is off that rose.


People (not just you, guy I quoted) keep making this "call" about every candidate currently or even formerly in this race every time anything happens, period. It's stupid and tiresome each and every time.

I understand you guys are just putting it out there in the vague hope that you can later assert you were "right," with the full hope it will be long forgotten when you are almost undoubtedly wrong (in every case, not just this one). I get it. But damn, it's old.

I wish I had a machine that could collect each and every 100% certain-sounding declaration or prediction made, and put them all into a single document for later, so we can see how wildly wrong everyone has been, and how dramatically some people have changed their "predictions" with no explanation or reference to the past.

Alphax
That's a little too accurate to be funny.

THIS.
It's not just a "little too" accurate, it is entirely accurate. It is slightly funny and entirely frightening.

I'm not trying to make any Obama-Jesus connection or anything but, if Jesus comes back, could we accept him as the real deal if he isn't wearing a crucifix necklace?

FetusAGoGo: if Jesus comes back, could we accept him as the real deal if he isn't wearing a crucifix necklace?

I would think that Jesus wouldn't really want a depiction of his own torturous death after betrayal to hang off his neck every day. In fact, the only way I could accept a purported person as the "second coming" would be if they walked into a church and went "WTF were you thinking?!"

Funny, and close, but for it to be truly like ABC's debate, it needed about three more commercial breaks.

That was too close to what really happened to be all that funny.

And now people are getting snark for daring to criticize ABC for the mess for more than a day. Shocking.

Drakkenmaw: I would think that Jesus wouldn't really want a depiction of his own torturous death after betrayal to hang off his neck every day. In fact, the only way I could accept a purported person as the "second coming" would be if they walked into a church and went "WTF were you thinking?!"

"Uh, guys, why did you think it would be a good idea to make statues of me strung up naked, bleeding out, with nails in my hands and a crown of thorns on my head??"

Edsel: "Uh, guys, why did you think it would be a good idea to make statues of me strung up naked, bleeding out, with nails in my hands and a crown of thorns on my head??"

Makes you wonder how much thought they put into the rest of it, doesn't it? :P

The Straight Dope website (new window) raises, and then answers, the big question about those Lincoln Douglas Debates:

In 1858 Abraham Lincoln and Stephen A. Douglas traipsed back and forth across the state of Illinois conducting the famous "Lincoln-Douglas debates," supposedly in a campaign for election to the U.S. Senate. However, the constitutional provision in effect at the time provided that U.S. senators were to be elected by state legislatures. Not until passage of the 17th amendment in 1913 were senators elected by popular vote. So why were Lincoln and Douglas wasting their time and money traveling around speaking to voters when they could have more profitably occupied themselves offering bribes to members of the Illinois legislature?

Edsel:
"Uh, guys, why did you think it would be a good idea to make statues of me strung up naked, bleeding out, with nails in my hands and a crown of thorns on my head??"

Wait, you're telling us that a Jewish rabbi (even one who fell out of favor with the central church) would question the value of symbology and tradition honoring past events?

Ok, then.

//Going off to much some unleavened bread and avoid eating animals with 'unclean' lifestyles.

Jim_Callahan: Edsel:
"Uh, guys, why did you think it would be a good idea to make statues of me strung up naked, bleeding out, with nails in my hands and a crown of thorns on my head??"

Wait, you're telling us that a Jewish rabbi (even one who fell out of favor with the central church) would question the value of symbology and tradition honoring past events?

Ok, then.

//Going off to much some unleavened bread and avoid eating animals with 'unclean' lifestyles.

Wait, what? What does Jesus being freaked out when he sees himself nailed to the cross everywhere have to do with Judaism? And wtf is an 'unclean lifestyle' for an animal? I can eat a gay cow if I really wanted to.

/Actually heading off to go eat some unleavened bread.

ITS A SIMPLE QUESTION - would you eat the moon if it were made of spare ribs

/we can make sloppy martian love in my dune buggy

randomjsa: I see the cult of ObamaHillary is still raging over the fact that ABCthe truth makes their messiah look bad.

Sorry, I really couldn't help myself on that one.

/ftfy
//doesn't support anyone at this point

randomjsa:I see the cult of ObamaHillary is still ragingragging over the fact that ABCthe truth makes their messiah look bad.

/ftfm
//am an idiot
///lost the joke in my initial post

Alphax: I put randomjsa on ignore yesterday, but I still see his crap.

The highest compliment you can give anyone is the attempt to silence them, it means that you recognize their superiority to yourself. This is the reason I never ignore anyone, because that would mean they were saying something I couldn't handle. How's it feel to be a coward?

67 Beetle: Pretty funny stuff.

It's a pretty sure bet that Lincoln would never be elected in today's TV-soundbite-oriented, 24/7 news environment mostly because he was one ugly-assed agromegalic dude.

There, helped truthify that a bit.

/can't wait until McCain starts letting the personal hygeine slide and shows up unshaven for appearances in his bathrobe and slippers...
//he'll have to dodge all those handlers and caretakers, but I think he can do it. He looks pretty crafty to me.

randomjsa: How's it feel to be a coward?

Speaking for the guy, I'm betting it in fact feels pretty damn good. If you care enough about an Internet conversation that seeing someone you consider annoying constantly enter it bugs you, removing that person from your sight will probably improve your day - much like finally being able to get rid of some disgusting-looking piece of furniture your in-laws gave you as a gift. It's not like any of this in any way meaningfully changes anything, so pretending like it's some great platform of serious discourse is just silly. It's a way to blow some time, and making the way that time is spent more pleasant would seem to be a perfectly sensible thing to do.

Drakkenmaw: randomjsa: How's it feel to be a coward?

Speaking for the guy, I'm betting it in fact feels pretty damn good. If you care enough about an Internet conversation that seeing someone you consider annoying constantly enter it bugs you, removing that person from your sight will probably improve your day - much like finally being able to get rid of some disgusting-looking piece of furniture your in-laws gave you as a gift. It's not like any of this in any way meaningfully changes anything, so pretending like it's some great platform of serious discourse is just silly. It's a way to blow some time, and making the way that time is spent more pleasant would seem to be a perfectly sensible thing to do.

Ahh, it's the good old 'You take it too seriously' enigma that only applies to select people. The people throwing temper tantrums over every little thing negative that anyone says about Obama, well they're not taking it too seriously. Having to remind everyone 500 times that Hillary said something stupid, well, that's not taking it seriously, but pointing out that people who ignore others are cowards... Hey now that's just being silly and taking things too seriously.

Heh, was he addressing me?

He's only proving my decision correct.