King Something

Ah, good to see you have the thread in good order. Well done.

Good. Brooks' defense of the debate was one of the most excrable pieces of garbage I've read in a long time. The most disgusting kinds of self-fulfilling prophecies.

i didn't even get through the headline of TFA without chuckling, and i didn't make it through the first sentence without laughing out loud.

FTA: a bon-bon of non-thought dressed up in masturbatory intellectual contortions

sounds like my plans for the evening

The ABC debate was the worst we've had so far. It was Obama debating not only Clinton but the two moderators as well, who seemed unabashedly asking the same questions we've heard over and over with Clinton pounding Obama while professsing the questions come "from others." The obvious bias of the ABC moderators was made clear, should anyone doubt it, when they raised the business of Wiliam Ayres from the Weather Underground--when Obama was 8 years old! What was suspicious was Clinton's easy piling on about this, clearly aware that it was going to be asked. The whole Ayres thing also smacked of old-fashioned red-baiting which I though responsible journalism had disavowed some time back.

This was not a contribution to a discussion of the issues, which the nation has been requesting. Clinton's "gotcha" piling on last weekend and extending into this week and iinto the debate is being rejecting by the voters, witness the continued slide in her polling numbers.
Yes, Obama was on the defensive because the questions were so designed. It was disgusting, not helpful and only further indicated how desperate Hilary Clinton is to win at any cost.

I tried watching the debate, but I changed the channel the moment they aired the video question "Do you believe in the flag?" I know a waste of time when I see it.

DamnYankees: Good. Brooks' defense of the debate was one of the most excrable pieces of garbage I've read in a long time. The most disgusting kinds of self-fulfilling prophecies.

You're a better man than I, Gunga Din. I haven't been able to even approach one of Brooks' columns in months, fearful of being made dumber for having read them.

I manage to get through a Krauthammer scrawling once in a blue moon, but even then I worry about catching his strain of batshiat crazy.

golly

DamnYankees: Good. Brooks' defense of the debate was one of the most excrable pieces of garbage I've read in a long time. The most disgusting kinds of self-fulfilling prophecies.

Yea basically. The partisan worldview is starting to crumble. Like the fembots' heads in Austin powers. They have to defend more and more indefensible positions.

/I was laughing for a good 10 mins at jive-ass wankery
//had to submit it

David Brooks: issues relavent to the American voters go WHERE?!

I may need to incorporate jive-ass wankery into my vocabulary.

Just haaang loose, Brooks. He gun'a catch you on da rebound wit da med-i-cine.

spiderpaz the obvious bias of the ABC moderators was made clear, should anyone doubt it, when they raised the business of Wiliam Ayres from the Weather Underground--when Obama was 8 years old! What was suspicious was Clinton's easy piling on about this, clearly aware that it was going to be asked.


AIPAC and their Media branch, the mainstream media, chose Hillary or McCain long ago. Nothing has much changed. If these guys didn't set up a debate that looked like a turkey shoot, Iger would have them shiatcanned.


Jeffrey Zucker, CEO NBC TV, Zionist
Robert Iger, CEO ABC, Zionist
Leslie Moonves, CEO CBS, grandnephew of David Ben Gurion, Zionist
Jonathon Klein, CEO CNN, Zionist
Peter F. Chernin, President and COO FOX, Zionist

I'm going to repost my list of late breaking important issues from the last thread on the subject so all you late nighters can read it.

Some late breaking real issues that weren't discussed.

Free trade with Columbia
Olympic torch protests/Tibet crackdown
Housing Crisis
Illegal immigrant business raids
New government in Russia
Zimbabwe elections
Bear Stearns bailout
Stimulus packages - present and future (like McCain's gas tax holiday)
Polygamist raid

There's at least two hours of debate material

Apik0r0s
Jeffrey Zucker, CEO NBC TV, Zionist
Robert Iger, CEO ABC, Zionist
Leslie Moonves, CEO CBS, grandnephew of David Ben Gurion, Zionist
Jonathon Klein, CEO CNN, Zionist
Peter F. Chernin, President and COO FOX, Zionist
Apik0r0s, Fark poster, Brain-dead idiot

FTFY

Apik0r0s: spiderpaz the obvious bias of the ABC moderators was made clear, should anyone doubt it, when they raised the business of Wiliam Ayres from the Weather Underground--when Obama was 8 years old! What was suspicious was Clinton's easy piling on about this, clearly aware that it was going to be asked.


AIPAC and their Media branch, the mainstream media, chose Hillary or McCain long ago. Nothing has much changed. If these guys didn't set up a debate that looked like a turkey shoot, Iger would have them shiatcanned.


Jeffrey Zucker, CEO NBC TV, Zionist
Robert Iger, CEO ABC, Zionist
Leslie Moonves, CEO CBS, grandnephew of David Ben Gurion, Zionist
Jonathon Klein, CEO CNN, Zionist
Peter F. Chernin, President and COO FOX, Zionist


The joooooooos!!!!!11!

Apik0r0s: spiderpaz the obvious bias of the ABC moderators was made clear, should anyone doubt it, when they raised the business of Wiliam Ayres from the Weather Underground--when Obama was 8 years old! What was suspicious was Clinton's easy piling on about this, clearly aware that it was going to be asked.


AIPAC and their Media branch, the mainstream media, chose Hillary or McCain long ago. Nothing has much changed. If these guys didn't set up a debate that looked like a turkey shoot, Iger would have them shiatcanned.


Jeffrey Zucker, CEO NBC TV, Zionist
Robert Iger, CEO ABC, Zionist
Leslie Moonves, CEO CBS, grandnephew of David Ben Gurion, Zionist
Jonathon Klein, CEO CNN, Zionist
Peter F. Chernin, President and COO FOX, Zionist
Neil Patrick Harris, star ABC, Zionist

Falcc: David Brooks: issues relavent to the American voters go WHERE?!

I may need to incorporate jive-ass wankery into my vocabulary.

Tha's the fac, Jack!

12349876: I'm going to repost my list of late breaking important issues from the last thread on the subject so all you late nighters can read it.

Some late breaking real issues that weren't discussed.

White House discussion of torture

Free trade with Columbia
Olympic torch protests/Tibet crackdown
Housing Crisis
Illegal immigrant business raids
New government in Russia
Zimbabwe elections
Bear Stearns bailout
Stimulus packages - present and future (like McCain's gas tax holiday)
Polygamist raid

There's at least two hours of debate material


Gotta put that one right up top

The only thing I've heard David Brooks say in the last decade or so that was at all acceptable to my wax-filled ears was, when he was defending a certain psychotic Vice-President, "You have to remember, he thought he was going to die in two or three minutes. He thought he was going to burn to death underground in jet fuel."

So I'm hearing that Howard Dean is now publicly calling for Superdelegates to state their preferences NOW. Sounds like last night changed opinions on the value of keeping the nomination race going.

Obama stumbled all over himself and Clinton looked damn good on that stage. Rather than accept the truth, we see the far left loons have once again found a scapegoat to explain the messiah's failures. Like always, Barack Jesus Obama is flawless. Be it the 'right wingers' or the 'racists' it's always someone else's fault. This time? It was the moderators of the debate! It's a conspiracy! Typical liberal victim mentality. You people should be ashamed.

Dr.Zom:
Neil Patrick Harris, star ABC, Zionist

Hey, NPH wouldn't do that!

Shaggy_C: Obama stumbled all over himself and Clinton looked damn good on that stage. Rather than accept the truth, we see the far left loons have once again found a scapegoat to explain the messiah's failures. Like always, Barack Jesus Obama is flawless. Be it the 'right wingers' or the 'racists' it's always someone else's fault. This time? It was the moderators of the debate! It's a conspiracy! Typical liberal victim mentality. You people should be ashamed.

Stop that.

I initially read that as Leeroy Jenkins.

When President Obama goes to talk with Ahmadinejad will he get all weak and dejected when Ahmadinejad doesn't stick to the issues?


HAHA!!

The ISSUES!

Issues issues issues issues issues.

BuckTurgidson: Stop that.

Weird - new filter in place? I originally posted:

Cut me some slack, Jack! O I got to be runnin' cold upside down yo head. You know?

I enjoyed the ten "random" shots of the crowd that always showed her daughter.

The paraphrased quotes from the constitution during the commerical breaks also added a real professional edge to it.

/obama looked tired before the hatchet job even began

Shaggy_C: Obama stumbled all over himself and Clinton looked damn good on that stage. Rather than accept the truth, we see the far left loons have once again found a scapegoat to explain the messiah's failures. Like always, Barack Jesus Obama is flawless. Be it the 'right wingers' or the 'racists' it's always someone else's fault. This time? It was the moderators of the debate! It's a conspiracy! Typical liberal victim mentality. You people should be ashamed.

Let's see.. Uncannily believable, makes me want to yell at you, full of talking points.. ah! I don't see any major misspellings. Sorry, Shaggy, but inability to spell is the hallmark of a true troll. 7/10 for excellent content but sloppy preformance.

/You can do way better

Do you have a source on that, ShutterGeek? I'm honestly asking, because god would that be sweet.

I wonder, though, if winning like that would embitter too many Clinton supporters. I think the only way to stop that would be for her to concede in a non-forced manner. I'm just hoping that a slim victory in PA followed by a crushing defeat in NC will be enough to get her to realize how much she is farking things up for Democrats.

Falcc: /You can do way better

Out of practice I suppose...damnit!

Pattitler: The joooooooos!!!!!11!

Brief threadjack - did anybody happen to capture the webcast stream (new window)?

Shaggy_C: Obama stumbled all over himself and Clinton looked damn good on that stage. Rather than accept the truth, we see the far left loons have once again found a scapegoat to explain the messiah's failures. Like always, Barack Jesus Obama is flawless. Be it the 'right wingers' or the 'racists' it's always someone else's fault. This time? It was the moderators of the debate! It's a conspiracy! Typical liberal victim mentality. You people should be ashamed.



yer chokin' me up!

Shaggy_C: Obama stumbled all over himself and Clinton looked damn good on that stage. Rather than accept the truth, we see the far left loons have once again found a scapegoat to explain the messiah's failures. Like always, Barack Jesus Obama is flawless. Be it the 'right wingers' or the 'racists' it's always someone else's fault. This time? It was the moderators of the debate! It's a conspiracy! Typical liberal victim mentality. You people should be ashamed.

So you liked her prefabricated focus group answers... How nice for you... I will take Barack... You go ahead and enjoy your down to earth shadow puppet.

Opiate of the Lasses: White House discussion of torture

THIS

There have been reports that prisoners including children were sexually molested. This needs to be investigated.

Even the Republicans during the hearing said the picture shown was not all and the more disturbing items were kept under raps.

People need to know what Bush and CO allowed.

LOLZ! Shaggy_c is pretending to believe something that he really doesn't in an attempt to disrupt the thread! LOLZ!

That's all origional and shiat and super funny! You can tell its funny by my use of "LOLZ!".

LOLZ!

"i caN has reduckshun in cap'tul gainz tax?"

Didn't RTFA article until I got some help


Anyway, TFA raised some good points:

It was pointless melodrama deployed to cover up the moderator's own lack of cojones. Certainly, Obama's most earnest fans are all a-kvetch today, but they should a) understand that this is a good time for Obama to be taking the lion's share of the chin music,

I've said this before, but it IS good for all this to come out now rather than in the General. And, honestly, Obama should be practicing his response to any questions about any of his "-gates" from now until the his first debate with McCain.

b) think more broadly - last night's debate was bad for the discourse, and bad for all Democratic voters.

THIS. The fact that a lot of the first hour was an assult on Obama was a good thing. (See above)

The fact that the first hour was spent debating trivial non-stories was the FAIL.

Obama could have responded better, but he'll get more chances to shake it off (new window) So I won't complain about how Obama did in this past debate. What I will complain about is waisting an hour of the debate before it turned to the real issues that Americans care about.

I want to know why Hillary doesn't wear a farking flag pin.
Why does Hillary hate America?
I want to know what they've promised the Colombian free trade lobbyists who gave Bill 800k and had employed Penn to lobby for them.
I want to know why she kept lying over and over about Bosnia and Ireland and NAFTA and don't give me this I was tired BS. You repeated it on several occasion and even after your account was challenged you continued to lie then make excuses when caught.

I want to know why Georgie who worked for Clinton and owes them a great debt was allowed to not only moderate but didn't disclose to the audience his relationship with the Clintons.

burndtdan:
Hahaha, well played sir.

A little known fact: Hitler loved Jews...



but he hated fruits.

Son_Dee: Obama could have responded better

i'm not so sure. he basically flat out told the mods that they were asking him stupid questions. what else was he supposed to do? walk off the stage? that would have gone over like a fart in church.

i think he made the best of a really bad situation to find yourself in. they were ganging up on him on camera.


but ya, the thing that bothered me the most wasn't them attacking one candidate or the other, but the fact that the moderators took a big steaming dump on the tradition of political debate, our national discourse, and democracy. i mean, what's the next step? having the american idol judges moderating?

hell, they probably would do better.

justanothersumguy: Shaggy_C: Obama stumbled all over himself and Clinton looked damn good on that stage. Rather than accept the truth, we see the far left loons have once again found a scapegoat to explain the messiah's failures. Like always, Barack Jesus Obama is flawless. Be it the 'right wingers' or the 'racists' it's always someone else's fault. This time? It was the moderators of the debate! It's a conspiracy! Typical liberal victim mentality. You people should be ashamed.

So you liked her prefabricated focus group answers... How nice for you... I will take Barack... You go ahead and enjoy your down to earth shadow puppet.

WE'VE GOT A BITER!

I've said this before, but it IS good for all this to come out now rather than in the General. And, honestly, Obama should be practicing his response to any questions about any of his "-gates" from now until the his first debate with McCain.

It's true. And from now on he'll probably add "recite 20 reasons why I love the flag and America" to his daily regimen. He won't get worn down by inane questioning again.

My problem was that the questions seemed to be designed solely to reinforce the caricature and stereotypes of Obama the right wing are trying to create rather than actually address anything substantive.

And how many people think they're going to ask McCain about his buddy John "America deserved 9/11 'cause it tolerates fags" Hagee, or about his wife's various problems, or even simply ask him to explain the differences between Sunnis and Shiites, as he understands them?

Riiiiiiiight.

tokamak fanboy: Do you have a source on that, ShutterGeek? I'm honestly asking, because god would that be sweet.

I think this must be what I was hearing about. Watch the video on past the "great candidates" platitudes.

Jeffrey Zucker, CEO NBC TV, Zionist
Robert Iger, CEO ABC, Zionist
Leslie Moonves, CEO CBS, grandnephew of David Ben Gurion, Zionist
Jonathon Klein, CEO CNN, Zionist
Peter F. Chernin, President and COO FOX, Zionist
Neil Patrick Harris, star ABC, Zionist
Neo, The One, Zionist

"If this war was over tomorrow, Zion is where the party would be." - Tank, Nebuchadnezzar crewman, Zionist

12349876: I'm going to repost my list of late breaking important issues from the last thread on the subject so all you late nighters can read it.

Some late breaking real issues that weren't discussed.

Free trade with Columbia
Olympic torch protests/Tibet crackdown
Housing Crisis
Illegal immigrant business raids
New government in Russia
Zimbabwe elections
Bear Stearns bailout
Stimulus packages - present and future (like McCain's gas tax holiday)
Polygamist raid

There's at least two hours of debate material

Yeah, but you know what? If they actually talk about those issues, they'll find that they don't disagree about anything. All of the Democratic candidates have more or less been marching in lock-step from the outset. When the Republicans had multiple candidates, they argued about the issues. Was McCain too cozy with the Democrats? Was Romney sincere about his conservatism? Was Giuliani a one-issue guy? Was Huckabee too much of an economic populist? Just how batshiat crazy was Ron Paul, anyway? The Democrats don't have those discussions because the party leaders have done an amazing job enforcing the party orthodoxy. They don't debate the issues because they don't disagree about anything, except whether the government-run health care system should have a mandate, or whether we should pull out of Iraq in 60 days or 90 days or whatever. When you talk about the Democratic horse race, there's one issue that keeps recurring: demographics. Clinton has the women and the Latinos and the working-class; Obama has the blacks and the college kids and the highly educated. Give me a demographic profile of a Democrat and I'll tell you which candidate they support 90% of the time. It has nothing to do with the issues and everything to do with cultivating constituencies.

WhotheWhatNow: justanothersumguy: Shaggy_C: Obama stumbled all over himself and Clinton looked damn good on that stage. Rather than accept the truth, we see the far left loons have once again found a scapegoat to explain the messiah's failures. Like always, Barack Jesus Obama is flawless. Be it the 'right wingers' or the 'racists' it's always someone else's fault. This time? It was the moderators of the debate! It's a conspiracy! Typical liberal victim mentality. You people should be ashamed.

So you liked her prefabricated focus group answers... How nice for you... I will take Barack... You go ahead and enjoy your down to earth shadow puppet.

WE'VE GOT A BITER!

I like a bitter but prefer something more in line with a stout or a porter.