Oh my stars and garters how I do love that song

"Automatic" is one of my all time favorite LP's. Screw the haters that didn't like it.

Glitchwerks: "Automatic" is one of my all time favorite LP's. Screw the haters that didn't like it.


JaMC is one of my all-time favorites, but I rarely ever listen to that album. Not bad... just not very noteworthy. Even the hit-or-miss Munki has more highlights.

/anxiously awaiting the new album or, heaven forbid, the b-sides boxset.

EVen though "Psychocandy" is my fave 80's album, i cant seem to get into any of their other albums...That might be personal, I miss the wall of feedback.

For contrast, this is them early on. at the grey whistle test playing "IN A HOLE" (new window) with the distinct wall of feedback and the drummer with his *2* piece drum kit playing standing up...

nice

HappyHarryHardOn: EVen though "Psychocandy" is my fave 80's album, i cant seem to get into any of their other albums...That might be personal, I miss the wall of feedback.

I hope you at least have Barbed Wire Kisses. Lots of good stuff there.

Psychocandy is by far my favorite by them, but I do like their other stuff. I don't think they could've made another Psychocandy without coming off as one-trick-ponies.

omg, what a black rebel motor cycle club rip-off, they should sue these losers...


/keed
/thanks for making my day a little better subby

FeedTheCollapse: HappyHarryHardOn: EVen though "Psychocandy" is my fave 80's album, i cant seem to get into any of their other albums...That might be personal, I miss the wall of feedback.

I hope you at least have Barbed Wire Kisses. Lots of good stuff there.

Psychocandy is by far my favorite by them, but I do like their other stuff. I don't think they could've made another Psychocandy without coming off as one-trick-ponies.

Barbed wire kisses...uhm, is this the album thats got an amazing version of "Surfin' USA" and a cover of Bo Diddley's "who do you love" ? if that is it, yes. i did like this album a lot actually.

And I agree that doing "psychocandy 2" would not necessarily been a good idea, so im not sure what I expected of them after that first album, but everything after that album was good pop song here and there, but the distinct sound was gone.

then came the ballads with Mazzy Star...zzzzzzzzzzz

On a side note "I love Rock n roll" (not joan jett cover) was pretty rocking , but nothing else like that song is on that album.

Hey, Sex pistols only have one great album too...

Glitchwerks: "Automatic" is one of my all time favorite LP's. Screw the haters that didn't like it.

I'm with you, the album is underrated for some reason. People got turned off when they realized under the wall of noise were some pretty good songs.

/Psychocandy is still their best album.
//Their cover of "Who Do You Love" is one of the greatest covers of all time.

HappyHarryHardOn: then came the ballads with Mazzy Star...zzzzzzzzzzz
hey hey now, no talking shiat about Mazzy Star.

I like Darklands as well. But Psychocandy is an album you can barely top.

dalbuc: People got turned off when they realized under the wall of noise were some pretty good songs.

meh, I think most realised that underneath the walls of distortion and feedback were pop songs, that's why Darklands is well regarded. Automatic, on the other hand, is just kind of boring. Not to mention Honey's Dead is more or less the same thing but better.

FeedTheCollapse: HappyHarryHardOn: then came the ballads with Mazzy Star...zzzzzzzzzzz
hey hey now, no talking shiat about Mazzy Star.

I like Darklands as well. But Psychocandy is an album you can barely top.

dalbuc: People got turned off when they realized under the wall of noise were some pretty good songs.

meh, I think most realised that underneath the walls of distortion and feedback were pop songs, that's why Darklands is well regarded. Automatic, on the other hand, is just kind of boring. Not to mention Honey's Dead is more or less the same thing but better.

I agree about song stuctures... these guys were making Beach Boys song with feedbacks

It took me a while but I put Darklands just above Psychocandy these days as their best album. I think the reason for it is their live performances and the way those songs come across. Darkland's songs are just a bit stronger than Psychocandy's live, especially Nine Million Rainy Days, April Skies and Fall.

sonnyboy11: Darkland's songs are just a bit stronger than Psychocandy's live

I have no doubt that Darklands is easier to translate live, but comparing them album to album, Psychocandy wins hands down.

FeedTheCollapse: sonnyboy11: Darkland's songs are just a bit stronger than Psychocandy's live

I have no doubt that Darklands is easier to translate live, but comparing them album to album, Psychocandy wins hands down.

Hmm, well I don't think 'hands down' better, but I do typically still listen to Psychocandy more than Darklands, fwiw.

But again, my point was just the live thing and how the songs translate there, and I can't seperate the live performances from the albums so much. I have seen them about seven times including both the Psychocandy and Darklands tours and the Darklands songs are just plain stronger and more memorable.

Presentation-wise, nothing will probably ever top that first show I saw for Psychocandy, but they did away with that wall of fuzz approach rather quickly and really focused on the songwriting for Darklands.

The thing with PSYCHOCANDY (if you werent around in the mid 80's) is this:

#1- I remember when this album came out, they were touted as the next Beatles, NME and all those magazines came all over themselves...

then #2- when they stopped performing with their "wall of feedback" what happened at their gig was almost equivalent (in a smaller scale) as Bob Dylan getting booed for playing electric. I remember reading nothing but stories where they would get booed and bottles thrown at them for daring to change their sounds.

Thats why I guess im glad they DID change, I'm just not sure what else i expected them to do, but I just dont hear "CLASSIC!" from anything else they did

HappyHarryHardOn: I'm just not sure what else i expected them to do, but I just dont hear "CLASSIC!" from anything else they did


I will say that as much as I like the rest of their catalogue, Psychocandy sticks out for not onyl quality, but uniqueness* as well. Darklands was kind of a poppier version of Echo and the Bunnymen. Automatic veered awfully close to Billy Idol territory. As anal retentive as it sounds, I've always thought Honey's Dead's percussion sounded awfully similar to what a lot of the Madchester bands were doing.


*in case anyone brings it up: I'm aware of Spacemen 3 and Loop, but JaMC were doing somewhat of the same thing as them, but MUCH better than either.

HappyHarryHardOn: The thing with PSYCHOCANDY (if you werent around in the mid 80's) is this:

#1- I remember when this album came out, they were touted as the next Beatles, NME and all those magazines came all over themselves...

then #2- when they stopped performing with their "wall of feedback" what happened at their gig was almost equivalent (in a smaller scale) as Bob Dylan getting booed for playing electric. I remember reading nothing but stories where they would get booed and bottles thrown at them for daring to change their sounds.


THEY MAKE CONSTANT REFERENCES TO DYLAN/// LISTEN TO THE WORDS.. lOOK OUT KID YA GONNA GET HID... A MILLION REFERENCES..

Darklands, Honeys Dead, The John Peal sections, Fark they are all fantastic!

Sugar Ray's "Blues From A Gun" is actually pretty listenable.

Automatic is actually my 2nd fave. Darklands is #1. Blues from a gun, Halfway to Crazy, Head On, Drop. All great songs. Psychocandy is good, but I just can't listen to it on repeat. (Blasphemy I know) 'Course I'm weird. Stoned and Dethroned is one of my faves.

c_niswonger: Automatic is actually my 2nd fave. Darklands is #1. Blues from a gun, Halfway to Crazy, Head On, Drop. All great songs. Psychocandy is good, but I just can't listen to it on repeat. (Blasphemy I know) 'Course I'm weird. Stoned and Dethroned is one of my faves.

I guess I'm weird too.

JAMC is amazing.

Chainsaw in a hurricane.