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Bob_Laublaw [TotalFark] 2008-04-16 05:41:54 PM  
It's the nom-de-plume of a menage-et-toi.

 
oldebayer [TotalFark] 2008-04-16 05:47:30 PM  
It's one of those cars that catches fire when it is rear-ended.

 
Cyberluddite [TotalFark] 2008-04-16 05:50:03 PM  
I think it's the kind of cars they drive around in the capital of New Mexico. What that has to do with the Vatican I can't say.

 
conductormtm [TotalFark] 2008-04-16 05:54:10 PM  
It's what you oughtn't do but you do any way!

/I know my history of the world
/part one, at least

 
wiredroach 2008-04-16 06:20:05 PM  
Jew-ja-jew-jew jew-jew-jew!

 
CarolynLibrarian 2008-04-16 06:41:24 PM  
Let's face it - you can't Torquemada anything!

 
Lionel Mandrake [TotalFark] 2008-04-16 08:37:32 PM  
oldebayer: It's one of those cars that catches fire when it is rear-ended.

A Pinto?

 
Unright 2008-04-16 09:02:00 PM  
Eau-des-Fées?

Fairy water?

 
vossiewulf [TotalFark] 2008-04-16 09:07:49 PM  
consductormtm has the right answer.

Auto-da-fé - what's the auto-da-fé?

/Count de money

 
RocketRod [TotalFark] 2008-04-16 09:08:52 PM  
submitter: The Vatican's anti-gay auto-da-fé. Auto-da-fé - what's the auto-da-fé?

"It's what you oughtn't to do but you do anyway..."

 
LyleDAL [TotalFark] 2008-04-16 09:22:01 PM  
RocketRod: "It's what you oughtn't to do but you do anyway..."

FTW!

 
gterz66 2008-04-16 09:35:41 PM  
conductormtm

It's what you oughtn't do but you do any way!

WIN.

/Bring on the nuns!

 
lajimi [TotalFark] 2008-04-16 09:44:56 PM  
i236.photobucket.com

 
NuttierThanEver [TotalFark] 2008-04-16 09:45:58 PM  
Put it in the car.

 
GAT_00 [TotalFark] 2008-04-16 11:20:44 PM  
Lionel Mandrake: oldebayer: It's one of those cars that catches fire when it is rear-ended.

A Pinto?


A Crown Vic?

 
albert71292 [TotalFark] 2008-04-17 12:47:46 AM  
vossiewulf: consductormtm has the right answer.

Auto-da-fé - what's the auto-da-fé?

/Count de money


de Monet, de Monet... SAY IT!

 
I_Lost_My_Other_Username 2008-04-17 04:29:30 AM  
Subby: The Vatican's anti-gay auto-da-fé.

FTFA: The last thing the church needs is an anti-gay auto-da-fé.

 
Shrapnel [TotalFark] 2008-04-17 04:30:04 AM  
Ah, a BULLSHIAT artist!

 
timelady 2008-04-17 04:48:24 AM  
mel brooks - the one person who could make the spanish inquisition funny.

/of course, noone expects the spanish inquisition
//wait, what?
///ok. mel brooks AND monty python. two. two people who can make the spanish inquisition funny.

 
thisispete [TotalFark] 2008-04-17 04:52:09 AM  
Who knows Torq, you might win a buck

 
falconne 2008-04-17 05:02:28 AM  
An auto da-fé?

Well that was unexpected.

 
andrewagill 2008-04-17 05:05:57 AM  
If my Candide serves me correctly, doesn't an auto-da-fe usually involve death?

 
andrewagill 2008-04-17 05:21:42 AM  
TFA: if Pope Benedict wants to truly address the source of the sexual abuse scandal, he will reinstate the ancient tradition of the church that prevented bishops from being transferred (the technical term is "translated") or promoted from one bishopric to another, more important, diocese.

This is folly.

One of the best ways to deal with bad bishops is to transfer them to a titular diocese.

Like the Titular Diocese of the Ross Ice Shelf.

Plus, I'm pretty sure you're supposed to be a bishop before you become an archbishop.

/Archbishops are virtually equal to the pope and can consecrate other bishops.

 
LonMead 2008-04-17 05:24:18 AM  
www.ladyofthecake.comwww.christilling.de

Well, this was unexpected.

 
th3j0k3r 2008-04-17 05:32:31 AM  

 
WhyteRaven74 [TotalFark] 2008-04-17 06:16:21 AM  
andrewagill: Plus, I'm pretty sure you're supposed to be a bishop before you become an archbishop.

nope, while archbishops are often bishops or at least auxillary bishops before becoming archbishops, there is no requirement to be a bishop before becoming an archbishop. And there's no difference except for how big/important the diocese they run is. Archbishops run the big/signficant ones, the archdiocese. Bishops run diocese, which are smaller/less significant. They are however on equal footing. Though if a bishop is named cardinal, then he would be above an archbishop who is not a cardinal. And cardinals also have their own ranks. Plus any priest can be named a cardinal, without having to be a bishop in any sense at all. And until Pope John XXIII's time, a layman could be named cardinal. Oh and cardinal is titular only whereas becoming a bishop, of any rank, involves being ordained a bishop.

 
Relatively Obscure [TotalFark] 2008-04-17 06:23:29 AM  
How we doin', fellas? Any converts today?

 
SnoreCriminal 2008-04-17 07:31:11 AM  
The Inquisition (Let's begin)
The Inquisition (Look out sin)
We have a mission to convert the Jews (Jew, Jew, Jew, Jew, Jew, Jew, Jew)
We're gonna teach them wrong from right.
We're gonna help them see the light
and make an offer that they can't refuse. (That those Jews just can't refuse)
Confess, don't be boring.
Say yes, don't be dull.
A fact you're ignoring:
It's better to lose your skull cap than your skull (or your govalt!)
The Inquisition (what a show)
The Inquistion (here we go)
We know you're wishin' that we'd go away.
But the Inquisition's here and it's here to stay!

"I was sitting in a temple. I was minding my own business.
I was listening to a lovely Hebrew mass.
Then these Papus persons plungered and they throw me in a dungeon and they shove a red hot poker up my ass.
Is that considerate? Is that polite?
And not a tube of Preperation H in sight!"

"I'm sittin' flickin' chickens and I'm lookin' throught the pickins' and suddenly thes goyim pull down valls.
I didn't even know them and they grabbed my by the stoghum and started playing ping pong with my balls!
Ooh, the agony! Ooh, the shame!
To make my privates public for a game?"

The Inquisition (what a show)
The Inquisition (here we go)
We know you're wishin' that we'd go away.
But the Inquisition's here and it's here to-
"Hey Toquemada, walk this way."
"I just got back from the Auto-de-fe."
"Auto-de-fe? What's an Auto-de-fe?"
"It's what you ought not to do but you do anyway."
Will you convert? "No, no, no, no."
Will you confess? "No, no, no, no."
Will you revert? "No, no, no, no."
Will you say yes? "No, no, no, no!"
Now I asked in a nice way, I said, "Pretty please."
I bent their ears, now I'll work on their knees!
"Hey Toquemada, walk this way. We got a little game that you might wanna play, so pull that handle, try you're luck."
"Who knows, Toq, you might win a buck!"

"How we doin', any converts today?"
"Not a one, nay, nay, nay."
"We flattened their fingers, we branded their buns!
Nothing is working! Send in the nuns!"

The Inquisition, what a show.
The Inquisition, here we go.
We know you're wishin' that we'd go away!
So all you Muslims and you Jews
We got big news for all of yous:
You'd better change your point of views TODAY!
'Cause the Inquisition's here and it's here to stay!


NOBODY expects the Spanish Inquisition! Our chief weapon is surprise...surprise and fear...fear and surprise.... Our two weapons are fear and surprise...and ruthless efficiency.... Our *three* weapons are fear, surprise, and ruthless efficiency...and an almost fanatical devotion to the Pope.... Our *four*...no... *Amongst* our weapons.... Amongst our weaponry...are such elements as fear, surprise.... I'll come in again.

 
gbiewer 2008-04-17 07:48:56 AM  
I think the larger point here is that these *priests* are pedofiles, not gay. Believe it or not, there is a difference.

/not gay
//not that there is anything wrong with that

 
judan 2008-04-17 08:16:57 AM  
A capillary hint of red? Only this manupod, crescent in shape, has escaped?

 
ShaniquaDon'tLiveHereNoMo' 2008-04-17 08:27:15 AM  
gbiewer: I think the larger point here is that these *priests* are pedofiles, not gay. Believe it or not, there is a difference.

Is that the same thing as a pedophile?

 
DjangoStonereaver [TotalFark] 2008-04-17 08:27:25 AM  
gbiewer: I think the larger point here is that these *priests* are pedofiles, not gay. Believe it or not, there is a difference.

/not gay
//not that there is anything wrong with that


I am heartened by the fact that Benedict talks about the
difference in public.

I am saddened that he is considering banning gays from being
priests. I don't care if someone is straight or gay or
whatever: if they take the vows of celibacy and live up to
them and do good works for their parishoners, then that is
what being a priest (to me) is all about.

My big fear is that I will see the incremental liberalizations
of Vatican II undone in my lifetime, which combined with the
rise of evangelical fundamentalism (not to mention Islamic
fundamentalism) will usher in a new dark age.

 
Donald_McRonald 2008-04-17 08:28:04 AM  
When I was in the seminary in the mid-1980s, a local bishop came to visit. The bishop dressed for mass in the rectory next door. We seminarians were a bit late in arriving and were met by the bishop's secretary who said, "Come on boys, get into your dresses. Grandma is coming." Grandma was the bishop. The secretary had a feminine nickname, which, I am told, his intimates still use. To complete the screenplay quality of the experience, one of the priests who was in attendance that day left the priesthood shortly thereafter to become a flight steward or, as he called it, "a waitress in the sky." This kind of campiness was common both in the seminary and in my experiences with those already ordained. As for the secretary, he is now a bishop much in favor with conservatives.

Jesus Christ, the seminary must be like one big long B-52s video.

 
Third Day Mark 2008-04-17 08:34:14 AM  
conductormtm: It's what you oughtn't do but you do any way!

/I know my history of the world
/part one, at least


I thought thats what the headline was referring to but I've never understood what that line was.

/Now that i've seen it spelled, I still don't know what the hell it means.

 
SnoreCriminal 2008-04-17 08:41:55 AM  
DjangoStonereaver: gbiewer: I think the larger point here is that these *priests* are pedofiles, not gay. Believe it or not, there is a difference.

/not gay
//not that there is anything wrong with that

I am heartened by the fact that Benedict talks about the
difference in public.

I am saddened that he is considering banning gays from being
priests. I don't care if someone is straight or gay or
whatever: if they take the vows of celibacy and live up to
them and do good works for their parishoners, then that is
what being a priest (to me) is all about.

My big fear is that I will see the incremental liberalizations
of Vatican II undone in my lifetime, which combined with the
rise of evangelical fundamentalism (not to mention Islamic
fundamentalism) will usher in a new dark age.


Mmmmmmm Dark Age.

In the Grim Darkness of the Far Future, There is Only War.

 
tnpir [TotalFark] 2008-04-17 08:45:20 AM  
Relatively Obscure: How we doin', fellas? Any converts today?

Not a one. Nay nay nay.

 
BrokenToilet 2008-04-17 09:16:53 AM  
I call bullshiat on this article. Rumors of this Vatican ban on gays have been flying around since 2005, and the document has never materialized.

 
rufus-t-firefly [TotalFark] 2008-04-17 09:20:42 AM  
WhyteRaven74: andrewagill: Plus, I'm pretty sure you're supposed to be a bishop before you become an archbishop.

nope, while archbishops are often bishops or at least auxillary bishops before becoming archbishops, there is no requirement to be a bishop before becoming an archbishop. And there's no difference except for how big/important the diocese they run is. Archbishops run the big/signficant ones, the archdiocese. Bishops run diocese, which are smaller/less significant. They are however on equal footing. Though if a bishop is named cardinal, then he would be above an archbishop who is not a cardinal. And cardinals also have their own ranks. Plus any priest can be named a cardinal, without having to be a bishop in any sense at all. And until Pope John XXIII's time, a layman could be named cardinal. Oh and cardinal is titular only whereas becoming a bishop, of any rank, involves being ordained a bishop.


There are only three real types of posts for men in the Catholic church: monks, priests & bishops.

The pope is 'just' the Bishop of Rome.

Monsignor, Cardinal, et al are 'just' titles.

 
gshepnyc 2008-04-17 09:37:59 AM  
If I was an old man wearing a Bea Arthur style gown I'd be cautious about making comments on anyone else's sexuality.

 
phillydrifter 2008-04-17 09:44:41 AM  
i8.tinypic.com


/for the 2 farkers who may not know
//go buy a copy. now.

///one of the top 10 funniest movies of all time
//the nose knows!
/we are now armed with Mighty Joint!
~RIP Gregory Hines

 
phillydrifter 2008-04-17 09:49:30 AM  
You know what they call the time in history when religion ran everything?

SnoreCriminal: Mmmmmmm Dark Age.

Did you know in those times only priests were allowed to learn how to read? They wanted to keep the people stupid and dependent on the church, so only priests were allowed to learn to read or write.

-paraphrased from "The Emperor Wears No Clothes" by Jack Herer

 
Headso 2008-04-17 09:59:24 AM  
This pope is queerer than a 3 dollar bill and more fabulous than Elton John, where does he get off with this?

 
Shostie [TotalFark] 2008-04-17 10:19:44 AM  
phillydrifter: ///one of the top 10 funniest movies of all time

I wouldn't go quite that far. It doesn't hold a candle to Blazing Saddles. Don't get me wrong, I LOVE the movie, but it's not one of the top 10.

/maybe somewhere in the top 50.

 
Aar1012 [TotalFark] 2008-04-17 10:28:19 AM  
albert71292: vossiewulf: consductormtm has the right answer.

Auto-da-fé - what's the auto-da-fé?

/Count de money

de Monet, de Monet... SAY IT!


It is said that the people are revolting.


/You said it! They stink on ice!

 
atlanta_ufo 2008-04-17 10:33:07 AM  
phillydrifter: You know what they call the time in history when religion ran everything?

SnoreCriminal: Mmmmmmm Dark Age.

Did you know in those times only priests were allowed to learn how to read? They wanted to keep the people stupid and dependent on the church, so only priests were allowed to learn to read or write.

-paraphrased from "The Emperor Wears No Clothes" by Jack Herer


There wasn't many books to read and they were very expensive. Gutenberg changed all that.

 
fifthhorseman 2008-04-17 10:35:29 AM  
It's still good to be the king.

 
flavor of the month 2008-04-17 10:36:36 AM  
with the birth of the subby comes the inevitable afterbirth... the commentor.

 
SnoreCriminal 2008-04-17 10:38:49 AM  
atlanta_ufo: There wasn't weren't many books to read and they were very expensive. Gutenberg changed all that.

/FTFY

 
wage0048 2008-04-17 10:40:35 AM  
conductormtm: It's what you oughtn't do but you do any way!

/I know my history of the world
/part one, at least


This. Still waiting for Hitler on Ice and Jews in Space

 
ElwoodPDowd 2008-04-17 10:45:13 AM  
phillydrifter: Did you know in those times only priests were allowed to learn how to read? They wanted to keep the people stupid and dependent on the church, so only priests were allowed to learn to read or write.

It's ignorant bigotry like this that sparked the 'reformation'.

Knock it off you heretical peasant.

 
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