Republicans are people, too.

jcooli09: Republicans are people, too.

War mongering, child rapists.

LOL
but they voted for the same fool twice
so shame on them

only after he road our country into the ground do they wake up and notice??

/sigh
/even farktards gets to vote

But don't you dare call them bitter.

$2 says that many of them will still vote for McCain regardless of this disappointment. To do anything else would make baby Jesus cry.

Makes sense, since the direction seems to be one in which the GOP is completely marginalized in all branches of the federal government.

ChopSueyKS: $2 says that many of them will still vote for McCain regardless of this disappointment. To do anything else would make baby Jesus cry.

They had 10 other options at the start of the nomination process within their own party. They ignored good, solid small government, lower taxes candidates in favor of Bush Lite. They knew what they were getting into. I say, let them die.

Maybe now we can all be friends?

By more than two-to-one, more independents disapprove (63%) than approve (27%) of Bush's job performance, but by a considerable margin (52%-37%), independent voters also say that if McCain is elected,he will take the country in .a different direction rather than continuing Bush's policies

Unless he flip flops again on several issues and abandons his position on Iraq that's not going to happen. McCain is pretty much running on Bush's platform.

here's a link for that from Pew Pew Pew.

McCain is like Bush-lite.

Yeah, but how many of them think McCain will fix all those problems? It's almost like they held off being dissatisfied for as long as possible.

Well of course they're dissatisfied. Abortion is still kinda legal. the gays haven't been rounded and put in camps, Mexicans dare to exist within the US borders, and Bush hadn't nuked Iran yet.

namatad: LOL
but they voted for the same fool twice
so shame on them

Or shame on the Dems for not putting up someone whom the public viewed as even worse than Bush both times.

And I'm sure all sides will be spinning this ambiguous question and result to mean whatever it is they want it to mean.

TownDrunk: jcooli09: Republicans are people, too.

War mongering, child rapists.

Which is why some liberal organizations such as the ACLU support NAMBLA.

Keep in mind the "direction of the country" for these people is what their Republican Masters tell them it is. That brown people, gays, and liberals are destroying their way of life.

So what normal people think of as "the direction of the country" could be very different. Illegal war, massive debt, slumping economy, government corruption, etc.

/didn't rtfa

jcooli09: Republicans are people, too.

They know how to win elections- i.e. they don't engage in several-month long mud slinging fests that fatigue the electorate of both candidates. They are critical of Bush, but maintain enough of a unified front to keep beating us in the Big Game.

/Shame on us.

randomjsa: Which is why some liberal organizations such as the ACLU support NAMBLA.

The same ACLU Rush Limbaugh paid to defend him to keep his illegal drug use out of the media?

cltbuilder: They had 10 other options at the start of the nomination process within their own party. They ignored good, solid small government, lower taxes candidates in favor of Bush Lite. They knew what they were getting into. I say, let them die.

-Other people in a handful of states had a wide variety of candidates to choose from. Now I'm left with a protest vote for Ron Paul, voting for farking Huckabee or eating my hat and voting for McCain.

LiberalWeenie: Keep in mind the "direction of the country" for these people is what their Republican Masters tell them it is. That brown people, gays, and liberals are destroying their way of life.

where do you get that from?

Sir Roderick Glossop: jcooli09: Republicans are people, too.

They know how to win elections- i.e. they don't engage in several-month long mud slinging fests that fatigue the electorate of both candidates. They are critical of Bush, but maintain enough of a unified front to keep beating us in the Big Game.

/Shame on us.

Just a side hypothesis; I think we're also a little more immune to ideologues with sparkling visions of the future that will only work if they get elected, so we're more apt to compromise in our selection.

014789: LiberalWeenie: Keep in mind the "direction of the country" for these people is what their Republican Masters tell them it is. That brown people, gays, and liberals are destroying their way of life.

where do you get that from?

Listening to right-wing talk radio...

Oh and I forgot teh atheeists and "secular progressives."

LiberalWeenie: 014789: LiberalWeenie: Keep in mind the "direction of the country" for these people is what their Republican Masters tell them it is. That brown people, gays, and liberals are destroying their way of life.

where do you get that from?

Listening to right-wing talk radio...

Oh and I forgot teh atheeists and "secular progressives."

what are some examples? specifically

014789: LiberalWeenie: 014789: LiberalWeenie: Keep in mind the "direction of the country" for these people is what their Republican Masters tell them it is. That brown people, gays, and liberals are destroying their way of life.

where do you get that from?

Listening to right-wing talk radio...

Oh and I forgot teh atheeists and "secular progressives."

what are some examples? specifically

Now I know you're trolling.

Smellvin: namatad: LOL
but they voted for the same fool twice
so shame on them

Or shame on the Dems for not putting up someone whom the public viewed as even worse than Bush both times.

Except for the fact that more people voted for Gore

LiberalWeenie: 014789: LiberalWeenie: 014789: LiberalWeenie: Keep in mind the "direction of the country" for these people is what their Republican Masters tell them it is. That brown people, gays, and liberals are destroying their way of life.

where do you get that from?

Listening to right-wing talk radio...

Oh and I forgot teh atheeists and "secular progressives."

what are some examples? specifically

Now I know you're trolling.

i love it, i ask you to prove something you said and I'm the troll! good one. thats pretty much the liberal tactic on fark though. when they dont have a response, call someone a troll or change the subject.

jcooli09: Republicans are people, too.

Prove it.

This just in...


Republicans don't like George W. Bush.


(They don't think he's the devil, but he sure as hell isn't a conservative)

I'm an agnostic pro-choice, pro-gay marriage, pro-stem cell research, pro-universal healthcare McCain voter. I just think the dems are farking idiots in their approach to how to resolve the Iraq situation, and I think that has the most impact on peoples' lives and livelihoods. Not to mention the politics of that region in years to come. So yeah, until the dems play ball and acknowledge the harsh realities of the situation and stop appealing to the whiner vote using more logical fallacy and special pleading than the Discovery Institute, fark em.

014789:

i love it, i ask you to prove something you said and I'm the troll! good one. thats pretty much the liberal tactic on fark though. when they dont have a response, call someone a troll or change the subject.

Well, at least I hope you're trolling and don't believe what you are saying.

If you're serious, you're clearly so deluded no amount of "proof" would matter to you, so I'm not going to bother. I'll leave you to smugly grin to yourself.

America is a liberal country. If you simply ask them what they feel about issues, 60-75% of all Americans are liberal.

Only 46% of American military call themselves Republicans. 54% Are liberals.

Etc. It's a liberal country, we have liberal valus, the Founding Fathers were beyond radical liberals, Jesus was a liberal. Accept it. America has paid for its liberalism by becoming a superpower and rich beyond the wildest imaginations of humans 200 years ago. Liberalism works.

LiberalWeenie: 014789:

i love it, i ask you to prove something you said and I'm the troll! good one. thats pretty much the liberal tactic on fark though. when they dont have a response, call someone a troll or change the subject.

Well, at least I hope you're trolling and don't believe what you are saying.

If you're serious, you're clearly so deluded no amount of "proof" would matter to you, so I'm not going to bother. I'll leave you to smugly grin to yourself.

by what i'm saying, you mean asking questions? stop with the personal attacks and lets see some examples. its so obvious it shouldnt be hard to get some examples quick.

State_College_Arsonist: -Other people in a handful of states had a wide variety of candidates to choose from. Now I'm left with a protest vote for Ron Paul, voting for farking Huckabee or eating my hat and voting for McCain.

Brownback wasn't that much less crazy than Huckabee; Tancredo was pretty close, although less populist-leaning than Huck. Thompson is the guy Nixon called friendly but dumb. Guliani wasn't able to get enough of a solid start to take the national nomination; you lost the opportunity to choose him because that "handful" all thought there were better choices for the Republicans than a secularist, pro-Choice, relatively liberal (save for law-and-order issues) Republican loathed by his home city.

This leaves Romney, who might have been able to take it if he fought to the end, but decided to withdraw in part because the political infighting needed to kick out McCain and Huck would risk tearing up the Republican party enough to give the Democrats an edge in the national elections - party power and loyalty over citizen choice. (Also because he's smart enough to see the impending financial crash, and not wanting to play Hoover. His best hope is that a Democrat wins, and them blame them in 2012 for not fixing Dubya's unfixable mess.)

So shut up and eat your fries.

Dubya's_Coke_Dealer: America is a liberal country. If you simply ask them what they feel about issues, 60-75% of all Americans are liberal.

Only 46% of American military call themselves Republicans. 54% Are liberals.

Etc. It's a liberal country, we have liberal valus, the Founding Fathers were beyond radical liberals, Jesus was a liberal. Accept it. America has paid for its liberalism by becoming a superpower and rich beyond the wildest imaginations of humans 200 years ago. Liberalism works.

this poll about the economy would disagree with you
Link (new window)

namatad: LOL
but they voted for the same fool twice
so shame on them

only after he road our country into the ground do they wake up and notice??

/sigh
/even farktards gets to vote

Not all of us voted for Chimpy McFlightsuit...

State_College_Arsonist: cltbuilder: They had 10 other options at the start of the nomination process within their own party. They ignored good, solid small government, lower taxes candidates in favor of Bush Lite. They knew what they were getting into. I say, let them die.

-Other people in a handful of states had a wide variety of candidates to choose from. Now I'm left with a protest vote for Ron Paul, voting for farking Huckabee or eating my hat and voting for McCain.

I'm in NC. I feel your pain, but I am voting for Ron Paul. He's been my choice all along. I don't wholly support his desire to leave Iraq immediately, but I know economically, we can't sustain much more "winning". I'm also wary of his plan to demolish the Federal Reserve. I know that banks will raise interest rates as high as they can without someone else being in charge of them, but the current policy of the Fed seems to be to create hyperinflation so that we might have a chance to pay down the debt we've created for our freedoms.

014789:
this poll about the economy would disagree with you
Link (new window)

The economy that was been under Conservative control and unregulated for 7 years? The economy that always does better under a liberal president? Well, I am not surprised that people are doing poorly after 7 years of conservative control, and that 7 years of economic policy ignorance was not successful. It always sucks under Republicans (unless you ignore the huge deficits). I expect that the economy will pick back up under Obama, as it alwasy does with a Liberal as President.

Dubya's_Coke_Dealer: America is a liberal country. If you simply ask them what they feel about issues, 60-75% of all Americans are liberal.

Depends on the issue.

Most favor open gun ownership (conservative) but no discrimination against homosexuals (liberal).

There's also the social liberal/fiscal conservative middle American.

SemperLieSuckah: I just think the dems are farking idiots in their approach to how to resolve the Iraq situation, and I think that has the most impact on peoples' lives and livelihoods.

So, the total lack of a coherent energy policy for the last eight years has nothing to do with the present economic fiasco? Nor the combination of deregulation and attempted economic stimulus via lowered interest rates? I've been able to see that this was coming for years - just not what the final trigger would be, nor any way to avoid it. It's been obvious that the only thing holding up the US economy since President Dubya took over was the housing numbers. It's obvious that the US deficit spending is about to bite us in the ass before 2012.

If McCain wins, the most imaginative solution he's likely to come up with is putting us on a WWII-style managed war economy, which will give a whole new meaning to "miserable failure" if he can't fix the internal profiteering that has plagued the Bush administration with Iraq. Hillary, I admit, might be almost as bad... but might at least reign in the internal profiteering so we only face a Hooverian disaster.

Obama's attitude on the Mideast doesn't leave me a lot of hope, I admit. If we pull and run, someone will need to go back in within another 20 years to clean up the mess, and it will destroy almost every bit of international credibility the US has built up since WWII. (Our nukes will still be intact. That's it.) On the other hand, he's at least intelligent enough to do it so he can blame the House for the pullout ("They took away the money; oh, well...."), and still seems flexible enough in his thinking he might pull a miracle out of his backside. "Only Nixon could go to China"; it may be that only Obama can keep us in Iraq.

Dubya's_Coke_Dealer: 014789:
this poll about the economy would disagree with you
Link (new window)

The economy that was been under Conservative control and unregulated for 7 years? The economy that always does better under a liberal president? Well, I am not surprised that people are doing poorly after 7 years of conservative control, and that 7 years of economic policy ignorance was not successful. It always sucks under Republicans (unless you ignore the huge deficits). I expect that the economy will pick back up under Obama, as it alwasy does with a Liberal as President.

ok, now that your ranting is over you can actually look at the link

Wow, it took 56% of republicans 7 years to figure out what the rest of America already knew. Here's to you, critical thinkers!

Dubya's_Coke_Dealer: The economy that always does better under a liberal president?

Mostly. Carter/Reagan is a bit of an exception, and that's because Reagan started running up the national credit card, while Carter tried (yes, yes: ineptly; but tried) for an honest fix. The bill for that bubble is about to come due, big time. The Great Depression was bad in the US... but it was so much worse in Germany, which triggered it by defaulting on a massive amount of unpayable debt.

We are all Oh So Screwed.

014789: I expect that the economy will pick back up under Obama, as it alwasy does with a Liberal as President.

Whoa there, he hasn't got the job yet. There are a lot of people out there, believe it or not, that think his direction for the country is just another kind of bad.

The demographic here is mostly liberal so you don't get a balanced view, but there are a lot of Americans -about half by most counts- that don't think Obama is the hopey-changey messiah.

Can we stop with all this stupid "Red" versus "Blue" bullshiat? Finally? I mean come on.

I propose something more active. "Purple" versus "Green" for example.

My Color Theory. Let me show you it.

FarkingSean: Dubya's_Coke_Dealer: I expect that the economy will pick back up under Obama, as it alwasy does with a Liberal as President.

Whoa there, he hasn't got the job yet. There are a lot of people out there, believe it or not, that think his direction for the country is just another kind of bad.

The demographic here is mostly liberal so you don't get a balanced view, but there are a lot of Americans -about half by most counts- that don't think Obama is the hopey-changey messiah.

014789: LiberalWeenie: 014789:

i love it, i ask you to prove something you said and I'm the troll! good one. thats pretty much the liberal tactic on fark though. when they dont have a response, call someone a troll or change the subject.

Well, at least I hope you're trolling and don't believe what you are saying.

If you're serious, you're clearly so deluded no amount of "proof" would matter to you, so I'm not going to bother. I'll leave you to smugly grin to yourself.

by what i'm saying, you mean asking questions? stop with the personal attacks and lets see some examples. its so obvious it shouldnt be hard to get some examples quick.

youre really just going to run and hide? you just spout off garbage and the few times you actually get challenged you call the other a troll. do you live the rest of your life like this? man up!

namatad [TotalFark] Quote 2008-04-13 01:38:39 PM
LOL
but they voted for the same fool twice
so shame on them

only after he road our country into the ground do they wake up and notice??

/sigh
/even farktards gets to vote

Yeah, it's funny. The dissatisfaction on the right started almost immediately after the 2004 election. The Repubs were all worked up into a lather about how they had to absolutely prevent Kerry from being elected.

Having done that, they woke up the next day and realized that they still had a really crappy president.

Lord_Baull: Wow, it took 56% of republicans 7 years to figure out what the rest of America already knew. Here's to you, critical thinkers!

Stupid people never learn. Retarded (slow thinking) people take years to decades to learn basic things a child could've figured out in an hour.

TownDrunk: War mongering, child rapists.

War mongering? Sure. Child rapists? nah that's teachers.

so...

Teachers belong to unions.

Unions endorse democrats.

Democrats are child rapists.