Like the case of the 12 year old in Kansas and/or Arkansas a couple years ago, it seems to be the pre-marital fornication that got him in trouble here. In parts of the South you can actually get out of statutory rape charges if you marry her. Kind of a legalized shotgun wedding.

For example, "if they say they're spending the night at Sally's house, but you find out they're in a motel across town,

Oh HELL no. Regardless of who they were with. Sorry little bastards wouldn't be sitting down for a month.

I hope they give this case the individual scrutiny it deserves and go easy on the guy, though. It doesn't sound like it was just a toss-off fling, they were getting married.

In North Carolina student/teacher sex is legal if they're married but I don't think getting married after having sex changes the fact that the unmarried student/teacher sex was illegal.

See, it's the relative age difference that is the problem here. If a 10-year-old had sex with a fetus... Wait... What?

tell me to prove that there was sex....

she does not have to testify against him, they're married.

at least as far as I know.

I'm assuming the dumbass tag is for enforcing a law that punishes two people having consensual sex in a relationship blessed by the minor's legal guardian?

It's farking ignorant that what's legal in one state is a felony in another. Make the farking age of consent 16 in all states and be done with it. Yes, I'm pedobear approved.

Did I read that right? They were only dating ONE MONTH before he proposed?

It's interesting -- When Will Durant was a school teacher and around the same age as this guy, he married a student of his who was around the same age as this girl. They then went on to have a long and happy marriage.

Strange how society's standards change.

I feel great personal shame reading these articles, as they show that my own grandfather was the worst kind of pedophile, as he married my grandmother when she was 17 and he was 19. I always thought they loved each other deeply. but now I see that she was the victim survivor and he was the abuser. The shame is almost too much to bear.

Honestly, if you cannot meet woman at school or work, what is the point?

Fell, feel, FAIL, oh well.

You know, they were going to get married. What good does it do to throw the guy in jail for 20 years and make him register as a sex offender for the rest of his life?

"Hi, I'm a sex offender. I had consensual sex with the girl that I was about to marry. Please keep your children 1,000 feet away from me."

Four "reporters" and God knows how many editors and nobody who knows the difference between 'brakes' and 'breaks'.

picturescrazy: You know, they were going to get married. What good does it do to throw the guy in jail for 20 years and make him register as a sex offender for the rest of his life?

It keeps him away from our precious snowflakes so that we don't have to waste our valuable time "parenting" them.

DulceEtDecorumEst
Also, since most women are whores, even the inexperienced girl will end up cheating on you.


I sense.........bitterness.

cerberus9: I feel great personal shame reading these articles, as they show that my own grandfather was the worst kind of pedophile, as he married my grandmother when she was 17 and he was 19. I always thought they loved each other deeply. but now I see that she was the victim survivor and he was the abuser. The shame is almost too much to bear.

My great grandmother was only 14! That poor woman! He was seven years older too.

You know, I can't even pretend to finish that line of joking. I've never seen a sadder man than my great grandpa when my great grandma died.

Swamp donkey?

DulceEtDecorumEst: So what if you wife has slept with 15 or 20 guys by the time you get to her? Thats just the way things are nowadays, unless you want a swamp donkey. Deal with it.

Your hatred of women is shocking. Not every woman is an immoral gutter-slut who plays recreational "cock-gobble" every chance she gets. There are still some decent women left in this world... Not here on Fark, mind you, but they must exist somewhere.

/right?

cerberus9: I feel great personal shame reading these articles, as they show that my own grandfather was the worst kind of pedophile, as he married my grandmother when she was 17 and he was 19. I always thought they loved each other deeply. but now I see that she was the victim survivor and he was the abuser. The shame is almost too much to bear.

Because marriage between a 27 & 17-year-old is clearly the same as a 19 & 17-year-old. Clearly.

FTFA, second page:

"Your child's brain is like a souped-up engine without an adequate breaking system. You have to put the breaks on for them."

Looks like the editor slept with the English teacher in order to pass...

cerberus9: Your hatred of women is shocking. Not every woman is an immoral gutter-slut who plays recreational "cock-gobble" every chance she gets. There are still some decent women left in this world... Not here on Fark, mind you, but they must exist somewhere.

/right?

The ugly ones, sure.

Commie Nazi Terrorist: cerberus9: I feel great personal shame reading these articles, as they show that my own grandfather was the worst kind of pedophile, as he married my grandmother when she was 17 and he was 19. I always thought they loved each other deeply. but now I see that she was the victim survivor and he was the abuser. The shame is almost too much to bear.

Because marriage between a 27 & 17-year-old is clearly the same as a 19 & 17-year-old. Clearly.

What kind of a Nazi are yo... oh, wait.

Commie Nazi Terrorist: cerberus9: I feel great personal shame reading these articles, as they show that my own grandfather was the worst kind of pedophile, as he married my grandmother when she was 17 and he was 19. I always thought they loved each other deeply. but now I see that she was the victim survivor and he was the abuser. The shame is almost too much to bear.

Because marriage between a 27 & 17-year-old is clearly the same as a 19 & 17-year-old. Clearly.

You're not actually suggesting that there's a significant difference are you? Holy crap...

Commie Nazi Terrorist: cerberus9: Your hatred of women is shocking. Not every woman is an immoral gutter-slut who plays recreational "cock-gobble" every chance she gets. There are still some decent women left in this world... Not here on Fark, mind you, but they must exist somewhere.

/right?

The ugly ones, sure.

You mean the ones that troll bars at closing time?

DulceEtDecorumEst: wide_eyed: DulceEtDecorumEst
Also, since most women are whores, even the inexperienced girl will end up cheating on you.
I sense.........bitterness.
Nah, realism. I have always cheated whenever I got the chance, but now that I know women do it too, I no longer feel guilty.

Sometimes it happens that two people like and respect each other enough that they don't want to cheat on each other.

Guess it's never happened to you.

wide_eyed: DulceEtDecorumEst
Also, since most women are whores, even the inexperienced girl will end up cheating on you.


I sense.........bitterness.

I would say he has a firm grasp on reality.

I nominate the asinine tag for this story.

Commie Nazi Terrorist: Because marriage between a 27 & 17-year-old is clearly the same as a 19 & 17-year-old. Clearly.

That's what the law would have you believe, yes.

DulceEtDecorumEst: I can see the appeal of screwing a young girl

I'm trying to think of what the appeal would be. But I don't think I've had a girlfriend around that age since, well, since I was around that age. And almost a couple decades later, the idea of some bony, dumb inexperienced thing doesn't appeal to me.

DulceEtDecorumEst: jjorsett: Swamp donkey?

The guy on the right looks really really really unhappy.

Seriously, if the guy had just kept it in his pants for another year, she would have turned 18, and he would have been totally legal to marry/fark her. I'm not saying "abstinence until marriage" or whatever, but if you want to avoid the slammer, "abstinence until she's legal" might be a good call.

cerberus9: You're not actually suggesting that there's a significant difference are you? Holy crap...

No kidding.

Let's call the cops.

cerberus9: You're not actually suggesting that there's a significant difference are you? Holy crap...

What kind of shanty town do you live in where a 27-year-old is similar to a 19-year old?

*looks at profile*

Oh, my bad.

Women cheat as much as men, sometimes more.

Why?

For the most part, men are HONEST. They get caught easily in lies.

Women are MUCH better at lying, hiding, and organizing things like affairs.

\not bitter
\\...
\\\not about this, at least.

My paternal grandmother was 13 years old when she got married in 1940 and 14 when she gave birth to my oldest Aunt. Her and my grandfather were happily married for 55 years before he died of a heart attack in 1995. He was pretty hardcore too, he only seen a doctor three times in his life. The day he was born, his enlistment physical and the day he died. The fact that he walked away from Normandy without a scratch on him is a bit of a minor miracle.

cerberus9: I feel great personal shame reading these articles, as they show that my own grandfather was the worst kind of pedophile, as he married my grandmother when she was 17 and he was 19. I always thought they loved each other deeply. but now I see that she was the victim survivor and he was the abuser. The shame is almost too much to bear.

Bravo. I like the states that use the 4-years difference, as long as older than 16 rule. They were too far apart and he did know how old she was. He should have looked that one up. If there was no proof he has already had sex with her, I'd let him go with a warning.

Keep in mind guys, he's not arrested for sleeping with her or marrying her, all of that was consentual.

He's arrested because he was a teacher at her school, and that as a whole is a felony.

If he had waited until she graduated or left the school, it would be perfectly fine.

cerberus9: You're not actually suggesting that there's a significant difference are you? Holy crap...

The far more significant issue here, in my opinion, is the power dynamic of him being a teacher at her school.

McStinky: cerberus9: I feel great personal shame reading these articles, as they show that my own grandfather was the worst kind of pedophile, as he married my grandmother when she was 17 and he was 19. I always thought they loved each other deeply. but now I see that she was the victim survivor and he was the abuser. The shame is almost too much to bear.

Bravo. I like the states that use the 4-years difference, as long as older than 16 rule. They were too far apart and he did know how old she was. He should have looked that one up. If there was no proof he has already had sex with her, I'd let him go with a warning.

You must be new here. He's a male pedophile - he may have had consensual sex with a 17 year old child. The only proper punishment is castration, followed by a lifetime of anal-rape. If he was a woman, and the victim survivor was a guy, then she would deserve a medal.

cerberus9: I feel great personal shame reading these articles, as they show that my own grandfather was the worst kind of pedophile, as he married my grandmother when she was 17 and he was 19. I always thought they loved each other deeply. but now I see that she was the victim survivor and he was the abuser. The shame is almost too much to bear.

My grandfather was 28 and my grandmother was 15 when they married. They had 7 children, and he died in 1964. She never married again and died single. Their love was a powerful one. I don't believe age really matters once people hit adolescence. According to nature, that is adulthood. I've seen too many cases of true love being stifled by simplistic, bigoted social mores. Homosexuality being the obvious one, although things are changing.

DulceEtDecorumEst: wide_eyed: DulceEtDecorumEst
Also, since most women are whores, even the inexperienced girl will end up cheating on you.


I sense.........bitterness.

Nah, realism. I have always cheated whenever I got the chance, but now that I know women do it too, I no longer feel guilty.

Which makes you the expert on moral behavior.

devioustrevor: My paternal grandmother was 13 years old when she got married in 1940 and 14 when she gave birth to my oldest Aunt.

B-b-b-b-but.

Suicidal Writer: cerberus9: I feel great personal shame reading these articles, as they show that my own grandfather was the worst kind of pedophile, as he married my grandmother when she was 17 and he was 19. I always thought they loved each other deeply. but now I see that she was the victim survivor and he was the abuser. The shame is almost too much to bear.

My grandfather was 28 and my grandmother was 15 when they married. They had 7 children, and he died in 1964. She never married again and died single. Their love was a powerful one. I don't believe age really matters once people hit adolescence. According to nature, that is adulthood. I've seen too many cases of true love being stifled by simplistic, bigoted social mores. Homosexuality being the obvious one, although things are changing.

The old generation was mature enough for that. Today, people are NOT mature to marry/settledown/etcoontil they are at least 28-35.. and that has to be 99% of Americans.

It's also a felony in Texas for a teacher to actually teach a student to read, regardless of whether sex is invovled.

People talk about the Puritanical heritage of the U.S., but leave off the Victorian, the part about fetishizing innocence. There are still some who think women shouldn't vote. It's a cultural trait that's still strong in some areas.

/I would not hit that. She's registered.

ceejayoz: The far more significant issue here, in my opinion, is the power dynamic of him being a teacher at her school.

See, here, I agree.

Absolutely no sarcasm whatsoever.

However, I would still take argument with the fact that, for whatever reason, the state believes -an abuse of power- is worthy of possibly up to twenty years in prison.

FTFA: Marshall said one of the first warning signs is "extensive secretiveness."

For example, "if they say they're spending the night at Sally's house, but you find out they're in a motel across town,

That's not a farking warning sign, that's a kick in the teeth.

A motel on *this* side of town, that would be a warning sign.

This 40 year old dude got to marry his 16 year old student without going to jail or being charged.