If people think the American government has issues, just wait until China is the #1 superpower.

I already knew this.

Nuke, orbit, etc.

And stop buying Red Chinese products!

That's not all (new window)

I got this attachment in an email that I am not expecting from anybody. Let me open it up!

In other news,

DUH.

I, for one, welcome our Chinese overlords. (pops)

Suicidal Writer: If people think the American government has issues, just wait until China is the #1 superpower.

But communists are always full of sweetness and light! Plus, they never pollute or oppress the masses, unlike that dirty/nasty/tricksy and false United Stateses....

Weaver95: Suicidal Writer: If people think the American government has issues, just wait until China is the #1 superpower.

But communists are always full of sweetness and light! Plus, they never pollute or oppress the masses, unlike that dirty/nasty/tricksy and false United Stateses....

Be sure to pay homage on the road to Beijing, Comrades!



/grin

Weaver95: Suicidal Writer: If people think the American government has issues, just wait until China is the #1 superpower.

But communists are always full of sweetness and light! Plus, they never pollute or oppress the masses, unlike that dirty/nasty/tricksy and false United Stateses....

um, you may not understand the difference, but china isnt really communist anymore, infact, many of the us policies regarding corperate welfare and bailouts are more communist than china.

I like Chinese!
I like Chinese!
They only come up to your knees--
There's nine hundred million of them in the world today;
You'd better learn to like them, that's what I say!

I'm not surprise if the Chinese government spies on the EU database.

I'm pretty sure spying on some petty group is chump change compared to the military and intellectual secrets they've been stealing for years.

GaryPDX: I already knew this.

congratulations!

were you maybe expecting one of these?

Suicidal Writer: If people think the American government has issues, just wait until China is the #1 superpower.

Yeah maybe in 150 years.

You know china has exactly 0 functioning aircraft carriers?
Exactly 0 nuclear subs?

Not saying military might is all that makes a superpower, but it is a good chunk of it. Russia is closer to superpower status than china.

And just think, y'all have been funding this by shopping at Wal-Mart.

On the one hand, we all knew it was happening.

On the other hand, that is extraordinarily bad.

I'm torn between snarkinesses.

re-elect_jimmy_carter: GaryPDX: I already knew this.

congratulations!

were you maybe expecting one of these?

Hey I'm not very surprised, can I gets me one of those tasty tidbits too?

EvilGnome: Suicidal Writer: If people think the American government has issues, just wait until China is the #1 superpower.

Yeah maybe in 150 years.

You know china has exactly 0 functioning aircraft carriers?
Exactly 0 nuclear subs?

Not saying military might is all that makes a superpower, but it is a good chunk of it. Russia is closer to superpower status than china.

it's all about capitalism, and being a capitalist country, china will just keep sponsoring the us war debt (how do you think they pay for iraq w/o raising taxes?) until the us is officially bankrupt, they will then own the aircraft carriers and everything else public and can just repo the country.

ChubbyTiger: Nuke, orbit, etc.

And stop buying Red Chinese products!

So, you mean stop shopping at Wal*Mart?

I agree.

Haha, 'Microsoft Word.' Good 1. (p)

The only difference any amount of security will make when operated by a moron is changing the number of mouse clicks between normal and catastrophically farked.

Gobobo: re-elect_jimmy_carter: GaryPDX: I already knew this.

congratulations!

were you maybe expecting one of these?

Hey I'm not very surprised, can I gets me one of those tasty tidbits too?

get it from gary, all you have to do is kick him in his sorry nuts first.

Word

Ron Paul Revere: Why are computers that could reveal sensitive data even connected to the internet?

How hard would it be for the government to use VMWare, setup virtual machines used solely for accessing the internet, and only allow the workstations themselves access to the internal network? Virtual computer gets infected? Big deal. No access to workstations, wipe and reinstall the image.

I mean really, the solution to this problem is so easy I can't find the words to express how outrageous this really is.

cmon, these guys didnt even know how to use the internet until a few years ago.

re-elect_jimmy_carter:
it's all about capitalism, and being a capitalist country, china will just keep sponsoring the us war debt (how do you think they pay for iraq w/o raising taxes?) until the us is officially bankrupt, they will then own the aircraft carriers and everything else public and can just repo the country.

Are you joking? I think china knows we are not going to give up our entire country and all our military without a fight. The REAL result of china's debt buying is to make them one of the most heavily invested countries in the United States' continuing success. China does not want war with us, and does not want to see our government collapse because then all that investment goes away. World peace will come through economic integration....

Hey, the Chinese are using Trojans!

Well it's about time.

What with the leaded paint, the cheap crap they ship to us for our consuming pleasure and all that MSG, you'd think we would have realized this sooner. Yeah. I think I'm turning Chiney-nese...I really think so......

Don't dis me, it's a joke damnit! We're still a free country!

Ron Paul Revere: Why are computers that could reveal sensitive data even connected to the internet?

Because our government isn't run efficently. It's not even run securely. It's a big, sloppy mess of hastily connected and patchwork systems rigged together with little thought given to industry standards or even logical planning. Every department is it's own little kingdom, every adminstrator off running things their own way.

Then again, the only reason nobody's been able to pull off a serious cybernetic assault on our critical IT infrastructure is BECAUSE the system is a rats nest tangle of system connections.

re-elect_jimmy_carter: get it from gary, all you have to do is kick him in his sorry nuts first.

Yea? Says you, Comrade..lol. Have some apple pie and ...a peanut.

Brontes: I got this attachment in an email that I am not expecting from anybody. Let me open it up!

HAHAHAHAHAHAA! Win!

re-elect_jimmy_carter: cmon, these guys didnt even know how to use the internet until a few years ago.

Are the tubes clogged? Has the Internets trucks been delayed so they will not arrive by Monday morning?

queenbee99: Brontes: I got this attachment in an email that I am not expecting from anybody. Let me open it up!

HAHAHAHAHAHAA! Win!

I can't tell you the number of times our system gets hit with virus attacks because some idiot up in corporate opens an email attachment from a bot account.

You'd figure someone with a $200k a year paycheck would know better....

Well that explains why my Spell Checks corrects to Engrish (new window).

EvilGnome: re-elect_jimmy_carter:
it's all about capitalism, and being a capitalist country, china will just keep sponsoring the us war debt (how do you think they pay for iraq w/o raising taxes?) until the us is officially bankrupt, they will then own the aircraft carriers and everything else public and can just repo the country.

Are you joking? I think china knows we are not going to give up our entire country and all our military without a fight. The REAL result of china's debt buying is to make them one of the most heavily invested countries in the United States' continuing success. China does not want war with us, and does not want to see our government collapse because then all that investment goes away. World peace will come through economic integration....

if china wanted economic integration, why would they use trojans to spy?

there's this thing in business (chinese and us govts are both businesses) called a 'hostile takeover'.

this 'hostile takeover' is where one business buys controlling stock of another business and thereby controls it.

i hope you are right, but i know you arent.

Weaver95: Then again, the only reason nobody's been able to pull off a serious cybernetic assault on our critical IT infrastructure is BECAUSE the system is a rats nest tangle of system connections.

Being the government, they are always 3-4 years behind on CPU hardware at a minimum. They are forced to buy surplus P4's in a era of dual and quad core chips.

You name the obscure, obsolete, security-less networking standard and it is still out there somewhere still being used at a US Government facility.

Thank god I've got a Mac!!!!

(flame-on!)

Flash animation is right up there with animated .gif files in terms of "close the window instantly" response.

No thanks.

/Call back when you can write a good web page.

What I have to wonder if their strategy works if you set OpenOffice.org Writer to be the default program to open .doc files.

Ron Paul Revere: Weaver95: Then again, the only reason nobody's been able to pull off a serious cybernetic assault on our critical IT infrastructure is BECAUSE the system is a rats nest tangle of system connections.

Security through disarray. I like it.

it's a mess in there. Dead links, hacked links that misdirect you to sites that have NOTHING to do with their description, systems that are patched and up to date sitting next to systems that are 4 years behind on critical updates, websites and databases connected to other departments who shouldn't be anywhere near that data....

And forget about trying to organize that insanity. nobody has the authority to force all those little cyber kingdoms into compliance.

Ron Paul Revere: re-elect_jimmy_carter: cmon, these guys didnt even know how to use the internet until a few years ago.

I'm pretty far from being a competent SysAdmin (no formal training) and even I can come up with that easily workable solution. It's so glaringly obvious.

For an admittedly not very competent SysAdmin you seem awfully sure that every other SysAdmin is apparently retarded. No, those weren't your exact words, but if it's something so important and this perfect solution is apparently so glaringly obvious, that's essentially what you are saying.

I'm going to go with option #2, that this glaringly obvious solution also has glaringly obvious flaws that would be apparent after diving into the possibility for about 10 minutes, but ya know, whatever.

Suicidal Writer: "If people think the American government has issues, just wait until China is the #1 superpower.



/just for you

Weaver95: queenbee99: Brontes: I got this attachment in an email that I am not expecting from anybody. Let me open it up!

HAHAHAHAHAHAA! Win!

I can't tell you the number of times our system gets hit with virus attacks because some idiot up in corporate opens an email attachment from a bot account.

You'd figure someone with a $200k a year paycheck would know better....

it's called an MBA and it means that you are most likely an idiot.

undflickertail: Weaver95: Then again, the only reason nobody's been able to pull off a serious cybernetic assault on our critical IT infrastructure is BECAUSE the system is a rats nest tangle of system connections.

Being the government, they are always 3-4 years behind on CPU hardware at a minimum. They are forced to buy surplus P4's in a era of dual and quad core chips.

You name the obscure, obsolete, security-less networking standard and it is still out there somewhere still being used at a US Government facility.

surplus P4s for 2000 dollars a piece in the same shipment with the 500 dollar toilet seats.

god bless the usa......and kbr.

i hate jimmy page: The only difference any amount of security will make when operated by a moron is changing the number of mouse clicks between normal and catastrophically farked.

IHJP: As someone who works in information security for a living, this is the most insightful comment I've heard for a long time.

In general, people do not give a fark about ITSec, and are not prepared to put up with even the slightest inconvenience (what, I can't the Foobies.com autodownload flash video player on my work PC?). This mindset changes for about 2-3 months when a company gets hacked, then goes back to the status quo.

EvilGnome: Suicidal Writer: If people think the American government has issues, just wait until China is the #1 superpower.

Yeah maybe in 150 years.

You know china has exactly 0 functioning aircraft carriers?
Exactly 0 nuclear subs?

Not saying military might is all that makes a superpower, but it is a good chunk of it. Russia is closer to superpower status than china.

Aircraft carriers? Waste of money, welcome to the post World War Two world

re-elect_jimmy_carter: EvilGnome: re-elect_jimmy_carter:
it's all about capitalism, and being a capitalist country, china will just keep sponsoring the us war debt (how do you think they pay for iraq w/o raising taxes?) until the us is officially bankrupt, they will then own the aircraft carriers and everything else public and can just repo the country.

Are you joking? I think china knows we are not going to give up our entire country and all our military without a fight. The REAL result of china's debt buying is to make them one of the most heavily invested countries in the United States' continuing success. China does not want war with us, and does not want to see our government collapse because then all that investment goes away. World peace will come through economic integration....

if china wanted economic integration, why would they use trojans to spy?

there's this thing in business (chinese and us govts are both businesses) called a 'hostile takeover'.

this 'hostile takeover' is where one business buys controlling stock of another business and thereby controls it.

i hope you are right, but i know you arent.

Good thing the government isn't a corporation then, or this could actually happen. They gave us money, we gave them bonds saying we'd pay them back with interest. If they get snotty, we can tell them we won't honor bonds issued to China, and then their economy goes to shiat since they're so heavily invested in us. Them trying to take us over economically is Mutually assured destruction.

They not only put spyware code in our MS Office,
I hear they also put pee-pee in our coke...

Ron Paul Revere: Weaver95: And forget about trying to organize that insanity. nobody has the authority to force all those little cyber kingdoms into compliance.

If only their were a legislative body that could change the protocol for computer security.

*facepalm*

Most members of congress think the magic box spirits will get mad at them if they don't shake the mouse three time before sitting down and turning on the switch. And if they screw up and anger the magic box spirits, they call tech support shamans to come and dispel these things called 'daemons', which apparently inhabit printer buffers.