State department suggests to Jimmy Carter that meeting with a terrorist group that considers America an enemy may not be the wisest decision for an ex-president to make, even one who's borderline senile, grossly incompetent, ineffective, and generally considered a total failure...

eqtworld: Carter is going to ruin this for us. He should butt out, we are 6 months from wrapping this up, stabilizing the Middle East and bringing our troops home.

Are you Tom Friedman?

Wasn't Hamas democratically elected?

Yeah, Jimmy Carter's Middle Eastern track record is pretty terrible compared with Bush...

How funny would it be if he gets to the meeting, whips out a desert eagle and yells SAAA-PRISE MUTHAFUKAAAHH!!!

Then proceeds to take out the Hamas leader at point-blank range then do a sassy end zone dance around the room.

It will be interesting to see Hillary and Obama's respective reactions to this turn of events. Especially Obama, since Carter has publicly stated he will vote for him at the convention.

ChewbaccaJones: How funny would it be if he gets to the meeting, whips out a desert eagle and yells SAAA-PRISE MUTHAFUKAAAHH!!!

Then proceeds to take out the Hamas leader at point-blank range then do a sassy end zone dance around the room.

I will cast a write-in vote for Carter if this happens. Hey, he can still have one more term.

klymen: Wasn't Hamas democratically elected?

You shut up! They're the wrong kind of democratically elected!

Nabb1: ChewbaccaJones: How funny would it be if he gets to the meeting, whips out a desert eagle and yells SAAA-PRISE MUTHAFUKAAAHH!!!

Then proceeds to take out the Hamas leader at point-blank range then do a sassy end zone dance around the room.

I will cast a write-in vote for Carter if this happens. Hey, he can still have one more term.

yeah that would pretty much kick ass

Nabb1: It will be interesting to see Hillary and Obama's respective reactions to this turn of events. Especially Obama, since Carter has publicly stated he will vote for him at the convention.

No kidding...add to that the fact that Obama is the one who was criticized months back for stating he would be willing to talk with leaders republicans aren't willing to...

I am a big fan of Obama...but somehow I don't think a Hamas leader is who he would have had in mind; especially before the election.

I notice that the freepers are encouraging this meeting... and hoping that he gets either kidnapped or killed.


http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1999402/posts

ChewbaccaJones: Nabb1: It will be interesting to see Hillary and Obama's respective reactions to this turn of events. Especially Obama, since Carter has publicly stated he will vote for him at the convention.

No kidding...add to that the fact that Obama is the one who was criticized months back for stating he would be willing to talk with leaders republicans aren't willing to...

I am a big fan of Obama...but somehow I don't think a Hamas leader is who he would have had in mind; especially before the election.

why not?

eqtworld: I just think Carter could cause the Middle East to become unstable if he splits with our current regional policy.

That is the last thing we need right now.

What policy is that exactly throwing money into a giant furnace and using the heat to fuel the war?

superbeerchan: I notice that the freepers are encouraging this meeting... and hoping that he gets either kidnapped or killed.

Someone should tell the Secret Service..

eqtworld: could cause the Middle East to become unstable if he splits with our current regional policy.

superbeerchan: I notice that the freepers are encouraging this meeting... and hoping that he gets either kidnapped or killed.


http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1999402/posts

Hmm... Jimmy Carter on the other end of a hostage crisis in the Muslim world during an election year. That would be ironic.

burndtdan: ChewbaccaJones: Nabb1: It will be interesting to see Hillary and Obama's respective reactions to this turn of events. Especially Obama, since Carter has publicly stated he will vote for him at the convention.

No kidding...add to that the fact that Obama is the one who was criticized months back for stating he would be willing to talk with leaders republicans aren't willing to...

I am a big fan of Obama...but somehow I don't think a Hamas leader is who he would have had in mind; especially before the election.

why not?

Seriously. Rev. Wright has already put Hamas ramblings on their church bulletin.

Nestea Plunge: No, it's because motherfarking Israel will piss and moan.

THIS.

superbeerchan: I notice that the freepers are encouraging this meeting... and hoping that he gets either kidnapped or killed.



Wow I read that really wrong at first and almost said some nasty things about you. Who the hell wishes for the death of someone like that? well besides from Pat Robertson...

Hamas isnt going ot do anything because it would defeat the entire purpose of their "Hey it's really Isreal's fault. They're treating us like shiat and we're just reacting to them" image they are trying to put out there.

Nabb1: Hmm... Jimmy Carter on the other end of a hostage crisis in the Muslim world during an election year. That would be ironic.

So, would this indicate that you agree with the freepers?

muck4doo: burndtdan: ChewbaccaJones: Nabb1: It will be interesting to see Hillary and Obama's respective reactions to this turn of events. Especially Obama, since Carter has publicly stated he will vote for him at the convention.

No kidding...add to that the fact that Obama is the one who was criticized months back for stating he would be willing to talk with leaders republicans aren't willing to...

I am a big fan of Obama...but somehow I don't think a Hamas leader is who he would have had in mind; especially before the election.

why not?

Seriously. Rev. Wright has already put Hamas ramblings on their church bulletin.

er... that's not where i was going with that (i honestly don't know or care if that's true).

i was curious why hamas wouldn't be what he had in mind. it seemed to me that he was specifically talking about diplomacy with those who the current administration refuses to speak to.

eqtworld: I just think Carter could cause the Middle East to become unstable if he splits with our current regional policy.

*gasp* you think the middle east COULD become unstable? What would that look like, ya think?

superbeerchan: Nabb1: Hmm... Jimmy Carter on the other end of a hostage crisis in the Muslim world during an election year. That would be ironic.

So, would this indicate that you agree with the freepers?

Oh, heavens, no. I don't wish ill will on the man. I disagree with some of his politics, but I'm not a sociopath about things like that. Wishing ill on people solely for political differences is the realm of knuckleheaded psychopathic troglodytes. If I wanted that, I'd go hang with the Freepers or the Kool-Aid kids and Democratic Underground.

Nabb1: Freepers / Democratic Underground.

Ever wonder what a no-hold barred cage fight between these two groups would be? the tubes would collapse under the sheer weight of the asshattery.

/For comparison, the DU is 500 craaaazy steps to the left of ME.

what_now: Nabb1: Freepers / Democratic Underground.

Ever wonder what a no-hold barred cage fight between these two groups would be? the tubes would collapse under the sheer weight of the asshattery.

/For comparison, the DU is 500 craaaazy steps to the left of ME.

If we are talking a real cage fight, I say go for it. Put it on Pay-Per-View and sterilize anyone who comes out alive.

Nabb1: what_now: Nabb1: Freepers / Democratic Underground.

Ever wonder what a no-hold barred cage fight between these two groups would be? the tubes would collapse under the sheer weight of the asshattery.

/For comparison, the DU is 500 craaaazy steps to the left of ME.

If we are talking a real cage fight, I say go for it. Put it on Pay-Per-View and sterilize anyone who comes out alive.

I would just like to add I am not wishing ill on them because of politics. I just want their genes isolated from the pool because they are boil-your-bunny-put-the-lotion-in-the-basket-I'm-ready-for-my-close-up-Mr. DeMille crazy.

Gwendolyn: Who the hell wishes for the death of someone like that? well besides from Pat Robertson...



These folks fit the Christian Patriot profile, IMO.

what_now: /For comparison, the DU is 500 craaaazy steps to the left of ME.

Wait, you aren't a right winger?

Democratic Underground, Huffington Post, Free Republic - this is why we need more than two political parties in this country. This "A vs. B" approach to politics is a travesty.

Cagey B: klymen: Wasn't Hamas democratically elected?

You shut up! They're the wrong kind of democratically elected!

Psst... just cause someone is democratically elected doesn't mean they should be recognized as a good leader or someone we want to negotiate with, unless you guys are willing to say that Godwin and the President of the US is one who you think is automatically conferred diplomatic legitimacy solely due to their democratically elected status.

eqtworld:

I just think Carter could cause the Middle East to become unstable if he splits with our current regional policy.

We have a current regional policy in the Middle East? Interesting. I had always assumed that failing to that epic of a proportion would require a distinct LACK of policy. I guess it shows you what we can do when we put our minds to it.

/America, FARK YEAH!

KaponoFor3: Cagey B: klymen: Wasn't Hamas democratically elected?

You shut up! They're the wrong kind of democratically elected!

Psst... just cause someone is democratically elected doesn't mean they should be recognized as a good leader or someone we want to negotiate with, unless you guys are willing to say that Godwin and the President of the US is one who you think is automatically conferred diplomatic legitimacy solely due to their democratically elected status.

That's just crazy talk right there.

Nabb1: Hmm... Jimmy Carter on the other end of a hostage crisis in the Muslim world during an election year. That would be ironic

Ross Perot could get him out.

KaponoFor3: Psst... just cause someone is democratically elected doesn't mean they should be recognized as a good leader or someone we want to negotiate with, unless you guys are willing to say that Godwin and the President of the US is one who you think is automatically conferred diplomatic legitimacy solely due to their democratically elected status.

Oh by no means I was implying Hamas and their leaders are good leaders. However I do think since they were democratically elected U.S should give them more respect than dictators(Saudis.. wink wink), atleast for the sake of democracy.

I just think Carter could cause the Middle East to become unstable

cause to become? Have you been watching this?

and what's wrong with talking to them - negotiations have solved many terrorist problems in the past. eg Northern Ireland.

it's better than selling them weapons (Afghanistan, Nicaragua, etcetera etcetera)

I'm not a big fan of Carter cause he farked up in Iran, but I love how he doesn't roll with Israel. People like him are hard to find now days, especially in DC.

/ANTISEMITE!
//GAS HIM!

I'm just saying that you can't have an ex-president, who is not accountable to anyone, running around negotiating with Hamas.


It's less dangerous than a president who is not accountable to anyone running around negotiating with the Saudis.

eqtworld: Jesus.

I'm just saying that you can't have an ex-president, who is not accountable to anyone, running around negotiating with Hamas.

We have a lot of people working on this issue right now, do you want it to go smoothly or not?

Is he not one of "The Elders"?

eqtworld: I'm just saying that you can't have an ex-president, who is not accountable to anyone, running around negotiating with Hamas.

Cause it's not like anyone who wasn't an elected government official has ever helped to diffuse a situation with a foreign "terrorist" organization before!

\facepalm

We have a lot of people working on this issue right now

If you could please explain WHO is, and WHAT they are doing to resolve the situation?

*(and for bonus points: Explain how Carter could do ANYTHING to fark up the middle east any worse than it is???)

Crazy_horce: If you could please explain WHO is, and WHAT they are doing to resolve the situation?

Well Iran has that nuke thing going for them...

Nabb1: Hmm... Jimmy Carter on the other end of a hostage crisis in the Muslim world during an election year. That would be ironic.

*snerk*

As to other issues: this isn't a "negotiation" of any kind, really. Carter has no power to wield here. He has nothing to bring to any kind of negotiating table. There's no "legitimizing" going on because this isn't an official diplomatic mission.

[insert pic of Darth Vader holding a Rebel aloft by the throat]

This appears to be more of a think-tank type of meeting. Talk about regional concerns and interests, have some pie and coffee, then go home and hope you win another Nobel Peace Prize.

eqtworld
Location:west palm beach

Will you all PLEASE stop messing with our elections!

\K-THXS-BYE!

Ryan2065: Well Iran has that nuke thing going for them...

Do go on....

It's actually a splendid idea, but he should take Jesse Jackson along for the trip, just to be on the safe side.

/and Sharpton too

Carter was a failure as a President, but he's been one of the most successful ex-Presidents ever.

/Cue the retarded Cox and Forkum cartoons.

Carter's record in foreign affairs is abyssmal... and he's an anti-Semite. No good will come of this. STFU, Carter.

eqtworld: Carter is going to ruin this for us. He should butt out, we are 6 months from wrapping this up, stabilizing the Middle East and bringing our troops home.

Is it 2003 again, and nobody told me?

KaponoFor3: Cagey B: klymen: Wasn't Hamas democratically elected?

You shut up! They're the wrong kind of democratically elected!

Psst... just cause someone is democratically elected doesn't mean they should be recognized as a good leader or someone we want to negotiate with, unless you guys are willing to say that Godwin and the President of the US is one who you think is automatically conferred diplomatic legitimacy solely due to their democratically elected status.

I am aware of that, it was mostly a sarcastic remark commenting on Shrub's "these folks are okay because they're democraticaly elected but not these other folks who were also democratically elected" diplomatic inconsistencies.