Too bad there isn't some kind of justice system that could deal righteously with these scumbag traitors.

Aww, not Colin....sigh. There goes the last shred of respect.

COLON POW

Why is this news now?

Don't you people remember when they were all on the news saying it was okay? And they continues to defend it today.

I mean, Cheney? Come on - he's said time and time again in interviews that he thinks "enhanced interrogation techniques" are legal.

I'm sorry, but the US is seen by many as one of those Nations that torture and make excuses for it.

You have become (intentional or not) what you most ardently fought against.

/"Freedom" in America is now only used to sell you something.

OlafTheBent: /"Freedom" in America is now only used to sell you something.

Y'all want fries with that?

And I'm sure they'll all face justice.

Right?

/weeps

OlafTheBent: I'm sorry, but the US is seen by many as one of those Nations that torture and make excuses for it.

You have become (intentional or not) what you most ardently fought against.

/"Freedom" in America is now only used to sell you something.

Naw, we also use it as a substitute for the word "Fr*nch"

[long and expletive filled diatribe excoriating the bastards that promulgated this abomination and those bastards who support them]

Whew.

I feel better now.

Skleenar: [long and expletive filled diatribe excoriating the bastards that promulgated this abomination and those bastards who support them]

HEY! This is a family site! Try and keep it somewhere within the realm of decency!

Sparky agrees!

You forgot one.

"Senator John McCain's vote last week against a bill to curtail the Central Intelligence Agency's use of harsh interrogation tactics disappointed human rights advocates who consider him an ally."

It depends on what the meaning of torture is. Is.

truth_is_stranger_than_fishin: Sparky agrees!

Actually, his real nickname was "Gilligan".

Yay! Our administration is evil and backwards in every possible way!! These people... Seriously. Who voted for Bush when they knew about his asshattery after four full years of it?

Actually, his real nickname was "Gilligan".

Thanks for the update.
But he will always be sparky in my heart

Since the Democrats are too spineless and outnumbered to actually pursue anything but rhetoric against these criminals, may the lot of them burn in hell, not only for the abuse that has been done as a direct result of their authorizations, but for what has been done to America and her reputation.

hachijuhachi: Yay! Our administration is evil and backwards in every possible way!! These people... Seriously. Who voted for Bush when they knew about his asshattery after four full years of it?

The Base

.

But, of course, Abu Ghraib was really due to just a few bad apples.

And they have already been punished, so we're clean.

This just makes me sick to my stomach. It is going to take a very long time to undo the damage done by this administration. I would like to hope that there would be some type of accountability for all the illegal acts they have done in the name of my country. But I know that these criminals will get away with no punishment at all.

In fact many so-called patriots will praise them and make excuses for what is clearly inexcusable. This news should make every truly patriotic American hang their head in shame.

Are these the actions of a "Christian" nation? I do remember the baby Jebus condoning torture. Why are the "Christians" of this nation not outraged at these sinful acts carried out in their name?

I know that as a country we have done many things that were not right, but this is truly a low point in our history.

Nestea Plunge: The Bush Admin has probably eclipsed the Nixon Admin in terms of outright criminal behaviour.

..and thats just on the stuff we know about.

Nestea Plunge: The Bush Admin has probably eclipsed the Nixon Admin in terms of outright criminal behaviour.

Ya think?

According to a top official, Ashcroft asked aloud after one meeting: "Why are we talking about this in the White House? History will not judge this kindly."

And they (well, at least one of them) knew it was wrong, yet they authorized it anyway.

Nestea Plunge: Ashcroft was the only one who had reservations about it, none of the other bloodthirsty war whores did.

I got this quote from a comment from another thread about this issue:
'you know you're in deep, deep shiat when John Ashcroft is your moral avatar.'

//the irony tag wants that quote

Flab: According to a top official, Ashcroft asked aloud after one meeting: "Why are we talking about this in the White House? History will not judge this kindly."

And they (well, at least one of them) knew it was wrong, yet they authorized it anyway.

Talk about a damning quote.

Flab: According to a top official, Ashcroft asked aloud after one meeting: "Why are we talking about this in the White House? History will not judge this kindly."

And they (well, at least one of them) knew it was wrong, yet they authorized it anyway.

That is too funny. Going in I thought Ashcroft was the one to be most concerned about. Turns out he's the only one with at least a partially functional conscience. Maybe that's why they replaced him with Gonzalez...

Where is that guy who was arguing Obama should pick Colin Powell as a VP the other day?

Tastes Like Chicken: That is too funny. Going in I thought Ashcroft was the one to be most concerned about. Turns out he's the only one with at least a partially functional conscience. Maybe that's why they replaced him with Gonzalez...

I knew this country was completely farked the day I woke up and though, "man, I sure do miss John Ashcroft"

Scumbag A Go-Go.

Here is an idea. Why don't you print a few of the most disgusting torture photos you can find (preferably US associated ones), and stuff them in an envelope and mail them to your Congressman and Senator. Short note attached like "Is this America?".

Anyone in this thread who can't even mail one letter, all there Senator, or go to a rally, does not have the right to be so indignant in there posts.

I'm not American so I can't do this but this makes me so sick, I am going to the Amensty International web-site right now to donate some money. Probably won't make a difference but I have to do something.

Nothing is obscure on Fark.

/the Hague

Bears repeating:

"No individual president can compare to the second Bush," wrote one. "Glib, contemptuous, ignorant, incurious, a dupe of anyone who humors his deluded belief in his heroic self, he has bankrupted the country with his disastrous war and his tax breaks for the rich, trampled on the Bill of Rights, appointed foxes in every henhouse, compounded the terrorist threat, turned a blind eye to torture and corruption and a looming ecological disaster, and squandered the rest of the world's goodwill. In short, no other president's faults have had so deleterious an effect on not only the country but the world at large."

"With his unprovoked and disastrous war of aggression in Iraq and his monstrous deficits, Bush has set this country on a course that will take decades to correct," said another historian. "When future historians look back to identify the moment at which the United States began to lose its position of world leadership, they will point-rightly-to the Bush presidency. Thanks to his policies, it is now easy to see America losing out to its competitors in any number of areas: China is rapidly becoming the manufacturing powerhouse of the next century, India the high tech and services leader, and Europe the region with the best quality of life."

jerry2a: I knew this country was completely farked the day I woke up and though, "man, I sure do miss John Ashcroft"

No shiat. Who would have thunk that John Ashcroft was the voice of reason and sanity in government. Jesus.

I hope they are tried en masse at the Hague.

Let them rot in cells like Slobodan Milosevic or the innocents--mixed in with serious criminals--at Gitmo.

They think they are above the law. Let them learn what it is really like under the law.

/It was legal. It was legal. We hired people to tell us it was legal so it was legal.
/Iraqi women being sodomized by American interragators isn't legal in anyone's book. You'll never see the videos of all the crimes like those.

The fact that there is absolutley no uproar about this is sickening. No-one seems to care. This should be the biggest domestic news story. If any other country was found to be OKing torture, people would be calling for the leaders to be deposed. Sadly, America can no longer call themselves the good guys.

/What happened to you Colin? You used to be cool...

Might makes right...always has, always will.

B-B-B-B-But Jack Bauer!

mrshowrules: Here is an idea. Why don't you print a few of the most disgusting torture photos you can find (preferably US associated ones), and stuff them in an envelope and mail them to your Congressman and Senator. Short note attached like "Is this America?".

Anyone in this thread who can't even mail one letter, all there Senator, or go to a rally, does not have the right to be so indignant in there posts.

I'm not American so I can't do this but this makes me so sick, I am going to the Amensty International web-site right now to donate some money. Probably won't make a difference but I have to do something.

Good call to arms, but telling farkers that they can't b*tch about something is gasoline on a fire.

/called senator yesterday
//fisa wtf

MacEnvy: I mean, Cheney? Come on - he's said time and time again in interviews that he thinks "enhanced interrogation techniques" are legal.

So?

Damn. Condi, I wanted to like you. With your talk of "Transformational Diplomacy", your evident understanding that a solution to the Israeli/Palestinian conflict is central to regional stability and seeming willingness to take on either side, your long legs encased in sexy black leather fark-me-boots...

But even if you aren't JUST like the rest... it turns out that you're close enough. Blegh.

Just over zealous staffers.

vernonFL: No shiat. Who would have thunk that John Ashcroft was the voice of reason and sanity in government. Jesus.

Nope. not even him.

This is the upside if John McCain wins: we will stop torturing. That is one hell of a silver lining. You can't help but look forward to January 2009 no matter what.

generalDisdain: I got this quote from a comment from another thread about this issue:
'you know you're in deep, deep shiat when John Ashcroft is your moral avatar.'

//the irony tag wants that quote

This. Who knew he was the one with a shred of decency?

/The modern day equivalent of the Nazi officer who drinks himself to sleep.
//Doesn't mean you won't swing with the rest of them.

Nestea Plunge: The Bush Admin has probably eclipsed the Nixon Admin in terms of outright criminal behaviour.

If he were alive today, John Wilkes Booth would have a higher approval rating than GW bush. Besides Nixon did not have Cheney to to misdirect the media after Bush's blunders.

Or Fox, or CNN.

You libtards will be begging for the rubber hoses and alligator clips when the bombers of Hezbo-Laa-Laa come to tear your little white babies from their mothers. They'll probably nationalize health care too... booga!

phyrkrakr: mrshowrules: Here is an idea. Why don't you print a few of the most disgusting torture photos you can find (preferably US associated ones), and stuff them in an envelope and mail them to your Congressman and Senator. Short note attached like "Is this America?".

Anyone in this thread who can't even mail one letter, all there Senator, or go to a rally, does not have the right to be so indignant in there posts.

I'm not American so I can't do this but this makes me so sick, I am going to the Amensty International web-site right now to donate some money. Probably won't make a difference but I have to do something.

Good call to arms, but telling farkers that they can't b*tch about something is gasoline on a fire.

/called senator yesterday
//fisa wtf

I think people should biatch about it as much as possible but they should also do stuff about it. Just saying that it is a little hipocritcal if you say that something truly disgusts and is outrageous and then not do anything about it. Who know, maybe the people who post this stuff are doing something about it, in which case I commend them.

Don't forget Scalia, too:
Scalia said that it was "extraordinary" to assume that the U.S. Constitution's ban on "cruel and unusual punishment" also applied to "so-called" torture.

"To begin with the Constitution ... is referring to punishment for crime. And, for example, incarcerating someone indefinitely would certainly be cruel and unusual punishment for a crime," he said in an interview with the Law in Action program on BBC Radio 4.

So, because they're never charged with a crime and convicted, torture is not punishment, and therefore isn't unconstitutional! Wheeeee!

/and he claims to follow original intent... I'm sure the founders would have had no problem with the King torturing their countrymen, as long as they're never convicted of a crime.

If we treat these detainees with the ultimate honor, clothe them in velvet, provide champaign and caviar, and give them each their very own Playboy bunny - they will surely love us so much, that will happily devulge any and all knowledge concerning our domestic security!

Anything less is TORTURE™

Sofa King Awesome
That is the dumbest picture I have ever seen.