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log_jammin [TotalFark] 2008-04-10 04:45:13 AM  
If Fark/TF was a real physical place I'd be too scared to go there.

 
Eat_At_Milliways [TotalFark] 2008-04-10 05:25:53 AM  
log_jammin: If Fark/TF was a real physical place I'd be too scared to go there.

If Fark/TF was a real physical place, TFer's would be like Manhattanites that never go above 116th.


/it's scary there

 
MorningBreath [TotalFark] 2008-04-10 05:58:53 AM  

 
cosmos_31 2008-04-10 06:55:44 AM  
TF? what the...? *clicks link* oh that TF

/nothing to see here, move along

 
dervish16108 2008-04-10 07:38:27 AM  
Why does Ron Paul hate Tibet?

 
andyvillager 2008-04-10 08:12:34 AM  
why do you think they call it magic valley?

"According to Martin, Twin Falls County has at least 100 people actively working for the Paul campaign. "John McCain has about six," he said."

 
Shaggy_C 2008-04-10 08:27:56 AM  
Ron Paul will forever live on Fark. But let's be clear: He's a liter phenomenon. We TFers are far too arrogant to even give his ideas the slightest bit of consideration.

 
FeedTheCollapse 2008-04-10 08:53:28 AM  
Shaggy_C: But let's be clear: He's a liter phenomenon. We TFers are far too arrogant to even give his ideas the slightest bit of consideration.
our $5 > Ron Paul.



how did he raise that much money and really only do well by watching the other runners fall off?

 
moops 2008-04-10 09:21:25 AM  
When will he visit Zombo?

 
Wrong_Intentions 2008-04-10 09:27:24 AM  
TFE: according to the local coordinator of Paul's campaign, Rick Martin,
Campaiging la vida loca?

/Been to ID, VERY unimpressed. This is desperate even for Ron Paul.

 
Blaxabbath 2008-04-10 09:27:42 AM  
"He's securing more delegates - and even if he doesn't win the election, the delegates determine platform positions and elect leadership at the local level. The whole idea of this campaign is to bring the Republican Party back to its roots - lower taxes, less government, and personal responsibility. The presumptive nominee has never stood for that."

Can't blame the guy for that.

 
HowlingFrog [TotalFark] 2008-04-10 09:29:49 AM  
FeedTheCollapse: how did he raise that much money and really only do well by watching the other runners fall off?

A large percent of his contributions came from active military members. I wonder how the yellow ribbon crowd feels about that. He stomped the other candidates in the debates, even though he was given a fraction of the time to do it that the windbags had, and he was thoroughly black-balled by the mainstream media. By offering up McCain as a nominee, the remains of what was once the Republican Party has shown how fractured and FUBARed they actually are.

 
Wrong_Intentions 2008-04-10 09:32:03 AM  
God, I hope he plays Ralph-Nader-on-the-right as [allegedly/actually] happened for Gore in 2000.

 
PirateKing 2008-04-10 09:34:08 AM  
Paul will fit in just fine in Idaho, since he looks like Mr. Potatohead.

 
Edsel 2008-04-10 09:47:11 AM  
I really think he should run as a third party candidate. The Republicans are so dominated by neocons, evangelists, and the Limbaugh/O'Reilly style blowhards that they're never getting back to their roots. That's just wishful thinking.

 
SnakeLee [TotalFark] 2008-04-10 09:55:22 AM  
If Ron Paul could some how come here and "host" a thread TF Discussion style it would be the greatest day

/not a fan of Ron Paul

 
Logweasel 2008-04-10 09:56:45 AM  
Turd Ferguson?

 
Empanda 2008-04-10 10:03:30 AM  
SnakeLee: If Ron Paul could some how come here and "host" a thread TF Discussion style it would be the greatest day

/not a fan of Ron Paul


I for one would love to know how he thinks it would be a good idea to exempt servers from paying taxes on their tips (new window). Even as a server I find that baffling. How to you exempt such a huge chunk of tipped employees' income? Hell, tips probably account for over 90% of my income. While I would love to not have to pay taxes on it, it would hardly be fair to the rest of the country.

 
schrodinger 2008-04-10 10:23:16 AM  
Empanda 2008-04-10 10:03:30 AM

I for one would love to know how he thinks it would be a good idea to exempt servers from paying taxes on their tips (new window). Even as a server I find that baffling. How to you exempt such a huge chunk of tipped employees' income? Hell, tips probably account for over 90% of my income. While I would love to not have to pay taxes on it, it would hardly be fair to the rest of the country.


www.ronpaul2008.com

"Hey, I'm very sorry that the government taxes their tips. That's farked up. But that ain't my fault. It would appear that waitresses are just one of the many groups the government farks in the ass on a regular basis. You show me a paper says the government shouldn't do that, I'll sign it. Put it to a vote, I'll vote for it. But what I won't do is play ball. And this non- college bullshiat you're telling me, I got two words for that: "Learn to farkin type." Cause if you're expecting me to help out with the rent, you're in for a big farkin surprise."

That's right, folks. Ron Paul = Mr. Pink.

 
Empanda 2008-04-10 10:34:12 AM  
schrodinger: That's right, folks. Ron Paul = Mr. Pink.

*claps*

Still, his argument on his site is just silly. Yes, the government does require me to report a minimum amount of tips for my sales. What he fails to mention is the requirement is something like 8.5% of my sales. If a server can't manage 8.5% of their sales, they need to find a new line of work. Even with the occassional jerk who doesn't tip, or those times I genuinely screw up somehow and don't deserve a tip (no one is perfect after all) I still average 20% or more just about every night. Not that I am one of them, but doesn't Mr. Paul realize there are servers with six figure incomes? Strippers too for that matter. Of course these people should be taxed on their tips.

 
dogfood 2008-04-10 10:34:34 AM  
I heard he got a new kitty and needs them to help him name it.

 
Stoker 2008-04-10 10:38:50 AM  
FeedTheCollapse: Shaggy_C: But let's be clear: He's a liter phenomenon. We TFers are far too arrogant to even give his ideas the slightest bit of consideration.
our $5 > Ron Paul.

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Speak for yourself. There are a lot of TFers who are not arrogant and have a mind of their own.

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Empanda:
I for one would love to know how he thinks it would be a good idea to exempt servers from paying taxes on their tips (new window). Even as a server I find that baffling. How to you exempt such a huge chunk of tipped employees' income? Hell, tips probably account for over 90% of my income. While I would love to not have to pay taxes on it, it would hardly be fair to the rest of the country.
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That is simple, he wants to eliminate the IRS so no one pays income tax. Pretty fair to all of us.

Ron Paul ya'll!

 
Empanda 2008-04-10 10:47:38 AM  
Stoker: That is simple, he wants to eliminate the IRS so no one pays income tax. Pretty fair to all of us.

Ron Paul ya'll!


While I can see where he favors tax cuts all over the place, where exactly does his website say he wishes to eliminate the IRS?

 
Stoker 2008-04-10 10:56:56 AM  
Empanda:
While I can see where he favors tax cuts all over the place, where exactly does his website say he wishes to eliminate the IRS?

----
Right Here. (new window)
And he has said it numerous times on various talk shows. You have to actually listen to people when you are actually trying to vote for what's best for America. If you just listen to the one person you prefer and do not research, you go uninformed.

Listen for once. (new window)

 
NSA Red Flag Brigade 2008-04-10 10:58:11 AM  
FTA: To the common observer, Ron Paul was done a long time ago. "Some media outlets have suggested lied, and stated it as a fact that he's dropped out," Martin said, "but he has no intention of it."

/FTFY

 
Dangleberry Alliance 2008-04-10 11:15:03 AM  
schrodinger: That's right, folks. Ron Paul = Mr. Pink.

/the power of the troll fu is weak in this one.

//reaching for it, he is, finding it, he is not.

 
Empanda 2008-04-10 11:24:50 AM  
Stoker: Empanda:
While I can see where he favors tax cuts all over the place, where exactly does his website say he wishes to eliminate the IRS?
----
Right Here. (new window)
And he has said it numerous times on various talk shows. You have to actually listen to people when you are actually trying to vote for what's best for America. If you just listen to the one person you prefer and do not research, you go uninformed.

Listen for once. (new window)


Well the snark wasn't particularly necessary. I did look at his issues page, I did read his Comprehensive Economic Revitalization Plan, neither of which specifically mentions getting rid of the IRS. I didn't read every single position paper of every candidate before reaching my decision.

Also, I don't think entirely eliminating the income tax is what is best for America. Even if we stop spending this second, we have bills yet to pay. I personally favor something along the lines of the Fair Tax.

I noticed the date on the paper you pointed me to was four years ago. Do you happen to know if the interview is current?

 
bphlater 2008-04-10 12:18:19 PM  
Who?

 
obzerver 2008-04-10 12:19:07 PM  
Empanda: Stoker: Empanda:
While I can see where he favors tax cuts all over the place, where exactly does his website say he wishes to eliminate the IRS?

Also, I don't think entirely eliminating the income tax is what is best for America. Even if we stop spending this second, we have bills yet to pay. I personally favor something along the lines of the Fair Tax.



Between NPR and Mr Paul this is my understanding of the issues;

Business organizations are required by law to pay tax's (and they pass that burnden on to you and I) Individual tax on a Federal level is not required by law. You must enlist yourself on a voluntary basis. Individual tax money pay's the interest on the debt from borrowing and to the Federal Reserve. If we stop using the Federal Reserve and resume the United States Reserve we would not have this type of massive debt to repay. (It's so large the FR stopped printing it on reports in fear of public outcry. (NPR about two months ago)). Not gonna happen though. Each Presidental hopefull that has proposed this and became president was killed with the exception of one. (I think Jefferson.?... can't recall.. They did try to kill him but failed as both pistol's miss fired) The current system was created by bankers and wealthy elite's (Rockafella's & Co.) and provides no benifit to the American people how ever does benifit a select few in tremendous ways. Mr Paul is well aware of this and these are a couple reason's he believes the Federal Reserve and IRS should be abolished.

 
Jeffrey.Rodriguez 2008-04-10 12:28:59 PM  
Empanda: Also, I don't think entirely eliminating the income tax is what is best for America. Even if we stop spending this second, we have bills yet to pay. I personally favor something along the lines of the Fair Tax.

Think constitutionally. There are very, very few things that the US Government is actually allowed to do. Instead, the US Government has been doing whatever the hell it wants. We don't even dignify people with a response when they say "Hey, that's not in the Constitution"; no, they're ridiculed. He's realistic about it, you probably can't kill the IRS in one presidential term, but you can go a long way to doing so. He's commander in chief, as such he can pull our troops back from everywhere outside the country and park them in bases here; that'll cut a huge chunk of the budget.

I noticed the date on the paper you pointed me to was four years ago. Do you happen to know if the interview is current?

He's got a very long congressional record, all of it consistent.

My only beef with him is his pro-life stance.

 
NeuroticRocker [recently expired TotalFark] 2008-04-10 12:29:48 PM  
okay i have to say it.

whenever someone says Ron Paul, i think

www.bubblestheartist.com

 
mikepoint3 2008-04-10 01:08:19 PM  
I don't see how anyone can be enthusiastic about paying taxes when the Pentagon loses Trillions of Dollars.
Trillions Lost

It's like you guys have Battered Woman's Syndrome.

 
Jaykzo 2008-04-10 01:39:38 PM  
People should be allowed to use their own money to take care of themselves. The government isn't doing a good job of using our money to try and take care of us.

The income tax doesn't pay for parks, or schools, or roads, or anything you really even give a crap about.

The Fair Tax is a dream come true to many criminal entrepreneurs, who would be able to sell things under the counter for 30% less than it's being sold at elsewhere. Not to mention the costs for yet another massive unneccesary department.

Hopefully, you all know by know that by removing the income tax, we'd still be left with roughly the same revenue that we had during the Clinton years.

And we can all probably agree on the fact that our government is currently plagued by useless departments and outrageously wasteful elected officials, spending money faster than they can print it, with much if it being directed to an unending war. Ditching some of these departments and removing much of our overseas "empire" could save us more than enough money to make up the rest of the money lost from eliminating the income tax.

If you think $600 sent to every tax paying American will actually do good for our economy (try and forget that we either borrowed or printed that money), then imagine how much greater our economy would prosper by having each of those tax payers saving a bunch of money by switching to Geico! errr, Ron Paul!

 
Churchill2004 [TotalFark] 2008-04-10 01:43:21 PM  
obzerver: Individual tax on a Federal level is not required by law

Some tax protesters say that, Paul doesn't. He's expressed sympathy for the various legal arguments against the income tax, but has said in essence that it's a stupid, pointless argument (except more politely). The IRS and every Federal judge in the country says it's the law- so let's just focus on getting it repealed/changed through the legislative process rather than hoping for some never-gonna-happen court ruling.

Besides, most "legal" arguments against the income tax are crazy conspiracy theory nuttery. Crap like "The 16th Amendment was never passed!" or "There's no actual law!". The only legitimate, reasonable Constitutional arguments against the enforcement of the income tax (4th Amendment right to be secure in papers, 5th Amendment right against self-incrimination) are almost never uttered by those people.

 
rumpelstiltskin 2008-04-10 01:45:52 PM  
obzerver: Empanda: Stoker: Empanda:
While I can see where he favors tax cuts all over the place, where exactly does his website say he wishes to eliminate the IRS?

Also, I don't think entirely eliminating the income tax is what is best for America. Even if we stop spending this second, we have bills yet to pay. I personally favor something along the lines of the Fair Tax.


Between NPR and Mr Paul this is my understanding of the issues;

Business organizations are required by law to pay tax's (and they pass that burnden on to you and I) Individual tax on a Federal level is not required by law. You must enlist yourself on a voluntary basis. Individual tax money pay's the interest on the debt from borrowing and to the Federal Reserve. If we stop using the Federal Reserve and resume the United States Reserve we would not have this type of massive debt to repay. (It's so large the FR stopped printing it on reports in fear of public outcry. (NPR about two months ago)). Not gonna happen though. Each Presidental hopefull that has proposed this and became president was killed with the exception of one. (I think Jefferson.?... can't recall.. They did try to kill him but failed as both pistol's miss fired) The current system was created by bankers and wealthy elite's (Rockafella's & Co.) and provides no benifit to the American people how ever does benifit a select few in tremendous ways. Mr Paul is well aware of this and these are a couple reason's he believes the Federal Reserve and IRS should be abolished.


You forgot the apostrophe in "ways", "bankers",and maybe "believes", but it's not clear you were going for that one.

 
Churchill2004 [TotalFark] 2008-04-10 01:51:13 PM  
Jaykzo: The Fair Tax is a dream come true to many criminal entrepreneurs, who would be able to sell things under the counter for 30% less than it's being sold at elsewhere

That's one of my big, big, gripes about Bob Barr. FairTax is sheer idiocy. Being marginally less intrusive than the income tax doesn't make up for all its other flaws.

I'm really hoping a Barr/Gravel ticket could turn the LP into a broader coalition party, as opposed to Barr simply yanking the party to the right. At the very least he'll hopefully get a more solid libertarian like Kubby, Phillies, or Ruart instead of that douchebag Root.

Little known fact: the LP has had more moderate candidates in the past. Look at Ed Clark's campaign. His platform was much more moderate, but it also tilted to the left. When he really pissed off his base (in a major and stupid way by referring to libertarianism as "low-tax liberalism") the moderates (himself included) got kicked out of the party. Aside from his lack of tact in dealing with his libertarian base, I think the fact that his "broadening" of the party tilted towards the left rather than in all directions is part of what undid him. As it is he still got more of the vote than any other LP candidate before or since.

And I say all that as about as much of a hardcore libertarian as you can find. If, however, the whole purpose of the LP is to effect change, then that has to include broad coalition-building and gradualism.

 
rumpelstiltskin 2008-04-10 01:52:22 PM  
rumpelstiltskin: obzerver: Empanda: Stoker: Empanda:
While I can see where he favors tax cuts all over the place, where exactly does his website say he wishes to eliminate the IRS?

Also, I don't think entirely eliminating the income tax is what is best for America. Even if we stop spending this second, we have bills yet to pay. I personally favor something along the lines of the Fair Tax.


Between NPR and Mr Paul this is my understanding of the issues;

Business organizations are required by law to pay tax's (and they pass that burnden on to you and I) Individual tax on a Federal level is not required by law. You must enlist yourself on a voluntary basis. Individual tax money pay's the interest on the debt from borrowing and to the Federal Reserve. If we stop using the Federal Reserve and resume the United States Reserve we would not have this type of massive debt to repay. (It's so large the FR stopped printing it on reports in fear of public outcry. (NPR about two months ago)). Not gonna happen though. Each Presidental hopefull that has proposed this and became president was killed with the exception of one. (I think Jefferson.?... can't recall.. They did try to kill him but failed as both pistol's miss fired) The current system was created by bankers and wealthy elite's (Rockafella's & Co.) and provides no benifit to the American people how ever does benifit a select few in tremendous ways. Mr Paul is well aware of this and these are a couple reason's he believes the Federal Reserve and IRS should be abolished.

You forgot the apostrophe in "ways", "bankers",and maybe "believes", but it's not clear you were going for that one.


I take back my last comment.
I thought you were doing that on purpose, but I reread your post, and realized you are simply illiterate.

 
mikepoint3 2008-04-10 05:04:42 PM  
Churchill2004: obzerver: Individual tax on a Federal level is not required by law

Some tax protesters say that, Paul doesn't. He's expressed sympathy for the various legal arguments against the income tax, but has said in essence that it's a stupid, pointless argument (except more politely). The IRS and every Federal judge in the country says it's the law- so let's just focus on getting it repealed/changed through the legislative process rather than hoping for some never-gonna-happen court ruling.

Besides, most "legal" arguments against the income tax are crazy conspiracy theory nuttery. Crap like "The 16th Amendment was never passed!" or "There's no actual law!". The only legitimate, reasonable Constitutional arguments against the enforcement of the income tax (4th Amendment right to be secure in papers, 5th Amendment right against self-incrimination) are almost never uttered by those people.



I think it's better to just make a moral argument.

Does the government have the right to determine how much money you get to keep?

Do you have the right to someone else's labor?

 
Fact Man 2008-04-10 05:21:12 PM  
Stoker: FeedTheCollapse: Shaggy_C: But let's be clear: He's a liter phenomenon. We TFers are far too arrogant to even give his ideas the slightest bit of consideration.
our $5 > Ron Paul.

-----
Speak for yourself. There are a lot of TFers who are not arrogant and have a mind of their own.

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Empanda:
I for one would love to know how he thinks it would be a good idea to exempt servers from paying taxes on their tips (new window). Even as a server I find that baffling. How to you exempt such a huge chunk of tipped employees' income? Hell, tips probably account for over 90% of my income. While I would love to not have to pay taxes on it, it would hardly be fair to the rest of the country.
---
That is simple, he wants to eliminate the IRS so no one pays income tax. Pretty fair to all of us.

Ron Paul ya'll!


So I'm not too educated on Ron Paul, so I'm curious: nobody pays income tax, how do public services get funded?

 
Murkanen 2008-04-10 05:21:28 PM  
HowlingFrog:

A large percent of his contributions came from active military members. I wonder how the yellow ribbon crowd feels about that. He stomped the other candidates in the debates, even though he was given a fraction of the time to do it that the windbags had, and he was thoroughly black-balled by the mainstream media.

He did well in one debate. As in singular, uno, a lone event, and so on and so forth. The rest of the time he decided he was going to play the crazy uncle that everyone just gives the eye to before slowly inching away.

 
Murkanen 2008-04-10 05:26:50 PM  
Stoker:

There are a lot of TFers who are not arrogant and have a mind of their own.

...your idea of "having a mind of your own" is to jump on the "Snakes on a Plane" candidate's bandwagon? Good gravy man, get out more please.

Fact Man:

So I'm not too educated on Ron Paul, so I'm curious: nobody pays income tax, how do public services get funded?

They don't, that's why anarcho-capitalists and social darwinists have such a hard on for him.

 
Murkanen 2008-04-10 05:32:00 PM  
Jeffrey.Rodriguez: We don't even dignify people with a response when they say "Hey, that's not in the Constitution"; no, they're ridiculed.

That's because the things they're usually whining about are either the rights of groups, such as minorities and women, being respected for a change or complaining about something being done under the scope of one of 17 amendments that have been ratified since the BoR (usually the 14th).

 
schrodinger 2008-04-10 05:55:30 PM  
Jeffrey.Rodriguez2008-04-10 12:28:59 PM

Think constitutionally. There are very, very few things that the US Government is actually allowed to do. Instead, the US Government has been doing whatever the hell it wants. We don't even dignify people with a response when they say "Hey, that's not in the Constitution"; no, they're ridiculed.


How to identify a Paultard: Claims to have read the constitution but actually hasn't.

See: 16th Amendment, and Section 1, Article 8.

He's realistic about it, you probably can't kill the IRS in one presidential term, but you can go a long way to doing so. He's commander in chief, as such he can pull our troops back from everywhere outside the country and park them in bases here; that'll cut a huge chunk of the budget.

Apparently, not nearly huge enough. Unfortunately, Ron Paul has always been the type of man who relied on what sounded nice in concept, rather than providing any actual numbers. His ideas don't even work on paper, much less reality. Not only are the numbers not on his side on this one, but the fact that the numbers aren't on his side doesn't even seem to bother him.

He's got a very long congressional record, all of it consistent.

Just out of curiosity, how is that guy doing on his promise for term limits?


mikepoint32008-04-10 01:08:19 PM
I don't see how anyone can be enthusiastic about paying taxes when the Pentagon loses Trillions of Dollars.


I can't see how anyone can be enthusiastic about another Texas republican fundamentalist after seeing the failure of the current commander in chief.

 
EMPulse_of_KC 2008-04-10 05:57:31 PM  
Eat_At_Milliways: log_jammin: If Fark/TF was a real physical place I'd be too scared to go there.

If Fark/TF was a real physical place, TFer's would be like Manhattanites that never go above 116th.


/it's scary there


I'd dive head first into Fark/TF before I ever considered setting foot inside /b/ though.

 
ceejayoz 2008-04-10 05:59:34 PM  
HowlingFrog: A large percent of his contributions came from active military members.

Bullshiat.

Ron Paul made $5,000,000 in Q3. In that quarter, he received $40,000 from military donors. That's less than even one percent.

This is why Paul never did as well as Paul supporters said he would - they can't distinguish wishes from facts.

 
schrodinger 2008-04-10 06:22:07 PM  
mikepoint32008-04-10 05:04:42 PM
I think it's better to just make a moral argument.

Does the government have the right to determine how much money you get to keep?

Do you have the right to someone else's labor?


I am Andrew Ryan and I am here to ask you a question:
Is a man not entitled to the sweat of his own brow?

No, says the man in Washington. It belongs to the poor.
No, says the man in the Vatican. It belongs to God.
No, says the man in Moscow. It belongs to everyone.

I rejected those answers. Instead, I chose something
different. I chose the impossible. I chose...
Ron Paul!

(To answer your question, your make money because government services and infrastructure make it possible to earn money. Your taxes are the service charge. If you don't like it, you can try to elect new representatives that support your views. But right now, you might as well start asking, "Does Ebay have a right to determine their commission fees? Do they have a right to someone else's garbage?")

Fact Man2008-04-10 05:21:12 PM
So I'm not too educated on Ron Paul, so I'm curious: nobody pays income tax, how do public services get funded?


Five worded response: "And then a miracle happens."

Longer response: Paultards are convinced that if they didn't pay their taxes, then private citizens would contribute the same amount of money to private charities. The best way to demonstrate this fact would be if they actually made an effort to donate money to charitable causes, in an attempt to prove "See? We really are capable of generosity." For instance, suppose they immediately donated their Bush tax cuts to charities of their own choosing, in an attempt to prove that the more money they had, the more they could give away. Suppose that the MLK Day fundraiser went towards causes that MLK actually supported, rather than for supporting a guy who voted against the holiday, rejects the civil rights and voting rights act, and has accused MLK of being a gay pedophile. Suppose that Ron Paul took the dirty money that he received from his Neo-Nazi supporters and donated it to minority rights groups, just like other candidates have donated their dirty money donations to charity, in an attempt to prove that private charities are a better solution for racial strife than government regulation.

Of course, none of that ever happened. Surprise, surprise, people who base their ideology around materialism tend to be greedy bastards.

In other words, they're assuming that if they stop paying taxes, then someone else will start picking up the slack, thus putting them out ahead. Mind you, most Ron Paul supporters are too young to be paying any real taxes to begin with. They aren't complaining about anything they're actually paying, they're complaining about the taxes that they would have to pay in theory if they ever won the lottery or whatever.

ceejayoz2008-04-10 05:59:34 PM
Ron Paul made $5,000,000 in Q3. In that quarter, he received $40,000 from military donors. That's less than even one percent.

This is why Paul never did as well as Paul supporters said he would - they can't distinguish wishes from facts.


Remember, this is the same group that can't tell the difference between "most Ron Paul supporters are young," and "Most young people support Ron Paul."

 
Stoker 2008-04-10 10:17:10 PM  
Actually, it's a misstatement. He has gotten more military donations than any other candidate. That may have been broken by now, since the media has deliberately shunned him. And the media also tells people who are stupid enough to believe that he has dropped out, has affected his donations too.

I see many of you just do not listen at all to anything he says except what you want to hear. It's not just about stopping the IRS, but stopping wasteful spending of the Government. One will save the other. He has said it enough times that there is no excuse for your (you know who you are) ignorance.

Ron Paul has stood up and told it like it is. He has faced many to tell you this way of doing things is wrong and must be changed. There is enough video of his warnings even 30 years ago to point out how right he is. You must take responsibility to make a truly educated decision that he has been right all these years.

Too young to pay taxes? Where have you been. Anyone who makes money, even at 5 years old can be hit for income tax evasion.
http://www.corporatedirect.com/pdf/kids_taxes.pdf
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Murkanen: Stoker:

There are a lot of TFers who are not arrogant and have a mind of their own.

...your idea of "having a mind of your own" is to jump on the "Snakes on a Plane" candidate's bandwagon? Good gravy man, get out more please.

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If you had the mind of your own, you wouldn't have said such ridiculous crap. Bandwagon. Look around you. There are two band wagons, and neither one of them are letting Ron Paul on the cart because he wants to turn them around and head for America. Get back to slurping your gravy, it's almost all gone... since you haven't noticed.

Come on people.
The current way of doing things is not working. It's time to back up and go to what did work for us. It used to be that our taxes did take care of parks and recreation, firemen and their trucks, the court system.... all of which is now paid for by you when you want or have to use it. Instead of funded by taxes, they are revenue makers and those taxes are now used for things like that nice Congressional Spa in Florida, or the automatic raises for your Congressperson. (Which Ron Paul does not take!)

Stop being an O'rielly. Get some real American pride in you, give it real fair thought, and you would see that the choice that is best for America is Ron Paul.

Rrrrrrrrron Paul!

 
Jeffrey.Rodriguez 2008-04-10 10:47:43 PM  
I think you need to advance to Trolling 201, schrodinger.

You've mastered the Straw Man Argument from 101, it's time to move on.

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schrodinger 2008-04-10 11:50:11 PM  
Stoker 2008-04-10 10:17:10 PM
I see many of you just do not listen at all to anything he says except what you want to hear. It's not just about stopping the IRS, but stopping wasteful spending of the Government. One will save the other. He has said it enough times that there is no excuse for your (you know who you are) ignorance.


Except that Ron Paul justifies his personal earmarks based on the fact that he's going to be taxed anyway, rather than cutting spending first and cutting taxes later.

Ron Paul has stood up and told it like it is.

Sure. We all know that evolution is a hoax and the MLK Jr. is a gay commie pedophile. Ron Paul said so. In the past week alone, Ron Paul managed to endorse the John Birch Society as a super patriotic organization and refused to condemn China for their treatment of Tibetan prisoners. Way to tell it like it is, Ron.

There is enough video of his warnings even 30 years ago to point out how right he is.

Yes, it's almost as though he's psychic or something.

I predict that, given Ron Paul's advocacy of private medicine, several of his family members will experience some type of health problems in the undetermined future. OMG, does that make me a genius if my prediction comes true?

You must take responsibility to make a truly educated decision that he has been right all these years.

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Jeffrey.Rodriguez2008-04-10 10:47:43 PM

Ah, there's nothing more ironic than watching the 3% of the population who supports Ron Paul accusing the other 97% of being lonely.

 
Jaykzo 2008-04-11 02:30:39 AM  
Nothing makes me sick to my stomach like watching schrodinger post, reminding me of how dismal and useless one human being can become. Checking FARK every day with high hopes for a Ron Paul thread, so he can orgasm over a few ignorant statements made by Paul supporters, all the while setting up straw men to tear down for his own perverted pleasure.

Whats more farked up is that I don't know a single Farker that is even fractionally as passionate about voicing their support for Ron Paul than schrodinger is of voicing his hatred for him.

 
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