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(Salem News) Hero Ross Perot gets White House to bend the rules for WW1's last surviving vet (and WW2 P.O.W.) to get an Arlington burial   (salem-news.com) divider line 155
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bigpeeler [TotalFark] 2008-04-10 03:27:37 AM  
What a pity he lost the election a few years ago. I'd have loved to have seen a Presdient with balls and what he could have done.

 
thisdaydreamer [TotalFark] 2008-04-10 03:34:31 AM  
Mr. Perot, you're still a basket case, but you did good on this one. Rock on.

 
NewportBarGuy [TotalFark] 2008-04-10 03:35:30 AM  
I love these stories. You keep on ticking, grandpa. We'll stay off your lawn.

 
Kant Lavar [TotalFark] 2008-04-10 04:13:06 AM  
upload.wikimedia.org

Approves.

 
Freak 2008-04-10 06:10:02 AM  
That's the crappiest newspaper site I've ever seen.

 
Boonpan Boonlert [TotalFark] 2008-04-10 06:10:18 AM  
For once I agree with Ross Perot! This gentleman needs to be laid to rest with honor when he goes. May he live in peace longer than I do!

 
Dr.Zom 2008-04-10 06:15:40 AM  
Frank Buckles apparently doesn't intend to take the offer any time soon. At 107, he still does 50 sit ups a day and lifts weights three times a week. He lives with his daughter in Charlestown, West Virginia. He served in the US Army in World War One, was a prisoner of War at Los Banos internment camp in World War Two.

I salute you sir.

/from the street
//not your lawn

 
Hobodeluxe [TotalFark] 2008-04-10 06:15:41 AM  
*salute*

 
OZZ 2008-04-10 06:16:16 AM  
Ross Perot is a reptilian.

 
wallytacker 2008-04-10 06:17:38 AM  
Freak: That's the crappiest newspaper site I've ever seen.

http://recordonline.com/

 
J. Frank Parnell 2008-04-10 06:18:01 AM  
bigpeeler: What a pity he lost the election a few years ago. I'd have loved to have seen a Presdient with balls and what he could have done.

They hold a castration after being sworn in, only JFK escaped such a fate because his balls wouldn't fit in the device, so they had to get creative.

 
stevejovi 2008-04-10 06:18:47 AM  
Nice to see the current Administration can still make the occasional good decision.

 
Malinki 2008-04-10 06:20:12 AM  
Hrm. Yeah, the guy deserves recognition, but I don't know if I agree with this one. The last surviving Civil War veteran wasn't buried in Arlington, nor the last surviving Mexican-American War veteran. I hate to say it but this is kinda like winning a lottery to get into Arlington.

 
invisbob 2008-04-10 06:20:16 AM  
I don't much care for perot but a good use for the hero tag for the vet.
Frank Buckles, I salute you, Appreciate your sacrifice for my freedom and wish to shake your hand.

/that don't happen much

 
Arcanum 2008-04-10 06:21:53 AM  
Ross Perot has a terrible rap... and sadly, it's justified if that 'Rape is like weather' comment is as reported. And of course, I've seen video fo the handshake thing, so I know he is capable of being very foolish and rude. but Perot is actually a decent person who has a reputation for treating others well. He said something incredibly stupid. Who hasn't?

I voted for Ann Richards, but I'm proud of Ross Perot for doing some real good with his life, not including this particular act which I think is also excellent of him.

 
skinink 2008-04-10 06:24:55 AM  

I was Ross' pie charts that finally did the trick.


It's sad that the guy's relative had to go through entertainment figures (even Kid Rock!!!) to get this fixed. I thought our Gov't was big on vets?


 
moulderx1 2008-04-10 06:25:52 AM  
FTFA:Buckles met with the president of Arlington National Cemetery in 2007 to discuss the issue and was told that Frank Buckles did not qualify for internment at Arlington as that honor is reserved for Medal of Honor or Purple Heart recipients, or those killed in action.

ORLY?

Requirements for Arlington:

# Any active duty member of the Armed Forces (except those members serving on active duty for training only).
# Any veteran who is retired from active military service with the Armed Forces.
# Any veteran who is retired from the Reserves is eligible upon reaching age 60 and drawing retired pay; and who served a period of active duty (other than for training).
# Any former member of the Armed Forces separated honorably prior to October 1, 1949 for medical reasons and who was rated at 30% or greater disabled effective on the day of discharge.
# Any former member of the Armed Forces who has been awarded one of the following decorations:

1. Medal of Honor
2. Distinguished Service Cross (Navy Cross or Air Force Cross)
3. Distinguished Service Medal
4. Silver Star
5. Purple Heart



/TMYK

 
Bomb Head Mohammed 2008-04-10 06:29:55 AM  
<b>Boonpan Boonlert:</b> <i>For once I agree with Ross Perot!</i>

Do all you "this is a great thing that ross did" morans have any actual principles whatsoever beyond lowest common denominator hero worship of anybody who wears uniforms and/or served in wars?

- ross perot got access to the white house that you and i probably could not get because? he is rich and/or he was a former presidential candidate? what's there to cheer for in this?

- this guy gets a special burial that thousands of his colleagues did not because? he happened to live longer? WTF?

im not trying to lessen this guy's WW1 service record. but while clearly politicians have an interest to pander to the nascar set with such stunts, I'm suprised to see such unprincipled kneejerk responses here.

 
cfish78 2008-04-10 06:30:42 AM  
bury me in a trash can. what do I care? i'm dead!
give the man a million dollars or something.

 
J. Frank Parnell 2008-04-10 06:32:06 AM  
Bomb Head Mohammed: I'm suprised to see such unprincipled kneejerk responses here.

Considering your name is a juvenile attempt to cause kneejerk responses i think you should be quiet now.

 
MonkeyBoy666 2008-04-10 06:33:31 AM  
skinink: I thought our Gov't was big on vets?

It used to be. Lately it's been big on cutting funding for vets.

 
themoonrulesnumber1 2008-04-10 06:34:16 AM  
Arcanum: Ross Perot has a terrible rap... and sadly, it's justified if that 'Rape is like weather' comment is as reported.

You are thinking of Clayton Williams

 
MonkeyBoy666 2008-04-10 06:35:33 AM  
Bomb Head Mohammed: he is rich

He's probably a major stockholder in Halliburton.

 
IKillBugs 2008-04-10 06:36:29 AM  
Bomb Head Mohammed: - this guy gets a special burial that thousands of his colleagues did not because? he happened to live longer? WTF?

im not trying to lessen this guy's WW1 service record. but while clearly politicians have an interest to pander to the nascar set with such stunts, I'm suprised to see such unprincipled kneejerk responses here.


Not that it matters to you, but The U.S. has no official WWI memorial.

 
CplKhaos 2008-04-10 06:40:09 AM  
That old man is hard like woodpecker lips! WWI vet, WWII vet and POW of the Japanese and still alive and kicking. Death fears this man.

 
LonMead 2008-04-10 06:40:26 AM  
Bomb Head Mohammed: I'm suprised to see such unprincipled kneejerk responses here.

Here, you apparently need this:
www.crowwing.com

Now be quiet or you'll frighten the fish.

 
damitjim 2008-04-10 07:02:35 AM  
moulderx1: ORLY?

Requirements for Arlington:


I think they were changed in the last 5 years or so, due to lack of space. It has become harder to get in.

 
rczeien 2008-04-10 07:03:52 AM  
This man is certainly a hero, but I don't know if his living longer makes him more of a hero then WWI vets who dies young.

Maybe he represents all of them though.

 
leegalizit 2008-04-10 07:05:36 AM  
OZZ: Ross Perot is a reptilian.


I for one welcome our rich reptilian unelected overlords.

/You know who else was a rich and unelected overlord?
//Bushwinned.

 
Phil Herup 2008-04-10 07:08:24 AM  
cfish78: bury me in a trash can. what do I care? i'm dead!
give the man a million dollars or something.



At his age he'll get more use out of the grave site.

 
TheQuest35 2008-04-10 07:18:44 AM  
Malinki: Hrm. Yeah, the guy deserves recognition, but I don't know if I agree with this one. The last surviving Civil War veteran wasn't buried in Arlington, nor the last surviving Mexican-American War veteran. I hate to say it but this is kinda like winning a lottery to get into Arlington.

You know I kind of agree with this.

Though there is the memorial for the Challenger shuttle their even though I dont think that technicly qualifies.

 
RandomFeature 2008-04-10 07:21:16 AM  
Bomb Head Mohammed: <b>Boonpan Boonlert:</b> <i>For once I agree with Ross Perot!</i>

Do all you "this is a great thing that ross did" morans have any actual principles whatsoever beyond lowest common denominator hero worship of anybody who wears uniforms and/or served in wars?

- ross perot got access to the white house that you and i probably could not get because? he is rich and/or he was a former presidential candidate? what's there to cheer for in this?

- this guy gets a special burial that thousands of his colleagues did not because? he happened to live longer? WTF?

im not trying to lessen this guy's WW1 service record. but while clearly politicians have an interest to pander to the nascar set with such stunts, I'm suprised to see such unprincipled kneejerk responses here.


1. You're an ungrateful ass who has no concept of the sacrifices of those who serve in the armed forces for your sorry personage.
2. For once someone uses their ability to get past the red tape for a *good* reason and you're upset that you can't? Perot is being cheered because he didn't use his connections to further his own casue, but helped someone else instead.
3. His burial in Arlington will be a symbolic event that is representative of "laying to rest" the wars of the past.

It's not just the "nascar set" that appreciates the sacrifices of soldiers like Buckles. Those who don't appreciate what soldiers go through and what they do for them ought to reconsider the cost of being able to gripe about something like this in the first place.

 
baka-san [TotalFark] 2008-04-10 07:22:51 AM  
LonMead: Bomb Head Mohammed: I'm suprised to see such unprincipled kneejerk responses here.

Here, you apparently need this:


Now be quiet or you'll frighten the fish.


Isn't the mounting bracket on backwards?

 
Poopy MacPoop 2008-04-10 07:23:33 AM  
He served in the US Army in World War One, was a prisoner of War at Los Banos internment camp in World War Two.

They kept him in a Spanish toilet?

 
billyboyxoxox 2008-04-10 07:24:08 AM  
This needed to happen. Perot, you're a scum but you did alright this time. Now fark off.

 
LowPlainsDrifter 2008-04-10 07:25:24 AM  
CplKhaos: That old man is hard like woodpecker lips! WWI vet, WWII vet and POW of the Japanese and still alive and kicking. Death fears this man.

There is no other explanation.

 
moulderx1 2008-04-10 07:25:41 AM  
damitjim: moulderx1: ORLY?

Requirements for Arlington:

I think they were changed in the last 5 years or so, due to lack of space. It has become harder to get in.



The request is for a state funeral, not just interment.

The old guy qualifies for the latter.

I believe they expanded Arlington last year.

 
Nassif Mob 2008-04-10 07:26:02 AM  
FTFA:
For several years the centagenarian Buckles had been one of the keynote speakers

Is this a peculiarly American spelling of the word centenarian?

 
Fook 2008-04-10 07:30:24 AM  
baka-san: LonMead: Bomb Head Mohammed: I'm suprised to see such unprincipled kneejerk responses here.

Here, you apparently need this:


Now be quiet or you'll frighten the fish.

Isn't the mounting bracket on backwards?


Depending on the watercraft one possesses, it can be desirable to mount a trolling motor at either the bow or the stern.

 
Gosling [TotalFark] 2008-04-10 07:30:28 AM  
bigpeeler: What a pity he lost the election a few years ago. I'd have loved to have seen a Presdient with balls and what he could have done.

I wouldn't call 16 years 'a few', and I'm not sure if he'd have been a good President, but it would have been worth giving him something.

 
TheWizard 2008-04-10 07:31:26 AM  
baka-san: LonMead: Bomb Head Mohammed: I'm suprised to see such unprincipled kneejerk responses here.

Here, you apparently need this:


Now be quiet or you'll frighten the fish.

Isn't the mounting bracket on backwards?


Depends on the shape of the boat where you mount it.

 
Bomb Head Mohammed 2008-04-10 07:35:49 AM  
RandomFeature: You're an ungrateful ass who has no concept of the sacrifices of those who serve in the armed forces for your sorry personage.

Sigh. Keep wrapping yourself in the flag while forgetting the ideals that it represents, pander bear.

 
baka-san [TotalFark] 2008-04-10 07:38:39 AM  
Fook:
Isn't the mounting bracket on backwards?

Depending on the watercraft one possesses, it can be desirable to mount a trolling motor at either the bow or the stern.


True enough, but then you would need to turn around the controls.

pucker up baby
www.texasfishingshow.com

 
Bomb Head Mohammed 2008-04-10 07:39:14 AM  
<b>IKillBugs:</b> <i>Not that it matters to you, but The U.S. has no official WWI memorial.</i>

So, campaign for one if it matters to you. My bookshelf of over 200 WW1 books and my great grandfather's graves are my WW1 memorial. What's your point, exactly?

 
zymurgist 2008-04-10 07:40:07 AM  
I just came here to say that Frank Buckles' story is awesome.

/got a greenlight for another Buckles article a few weeks ago

 
schpaetzle 2008-04-10 07:43:31 AM  
I knew there was a reason I voted for that bat crazy guy twice.

 
bgrainger 2008-04-10 07:46:36 AM  
damitjim: moulderx1: ORLY?

Requirements for Arlington:

I think they were changed in the last 5 years or so, due to lack of space. It has become harder to get in.


http://www.arlingtoncemetery.org/funeral_information/guide.interment.html

Lists the exact requirements posted by the OP.

 
interluder 2008-04-10 07:49:21 AM  
Not that it matters to you, but The U.S. has no official WWI memorial.
ORLY ?
www.dcpreservation.org

 
21-7-b 2008-04-10 07:49:23 AM  
Bomb Head Mohammed

So, campaign for one if it matters to you. My bookshelf of over 200 WW1 books and my great grandfather's graves are my WW1 memorial. What's your point, exactly?

you're supposed to read the books, not build a memorial out of them. how many graves does your great-grandfather have?

 
Lawnchair 2008-04-10 07:49:55 AM  
moulderx1:
ORLY?

Requirements for Arlington:

# Any active duty member of the Armed Forces (except those members serving on active duty for training only).
# Any veteran who is retired from active military service with the Armed Forces.
# Any veteran who is retired from the Reserves is eligible upon reaching age 60 and drawing retired pay; and who served a period of active duty (other than for training).
# Any former member of the Armed Forces separated honorably prior to October 1, 1949 for medical reasons and who was rated at 30% or greater disabled effective on the day of discharge.
# Any former member of the Armed Forces who has been awarded one of the following decorations:

1. Medal of Honor
2. Distinguished Service Cross (Navy Cross or Air Force Cross)
3. Distinguished Service Medal
4. Silver Star
5. Purple Heart


/TMYK


No. Buckles does not normally qualify.

#1 - He did not die while active duty
#2/#3 - He did not *retire* (that is, get his 20 years in... I assume he was not in the service between the wars)
#4 - Did not file for disability.
#5 - Did not get one of the decorations.

That said, I have no problem with the exception.

 
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