Yeah.....good luck with that.

Sure, why not. Another name, another few dozen votes.

Bob Barr is a pretty good guy. If my choice is Hillary "I'd put a puppy in a blender for votes" Clinton or John "I did a tour of duty in GW Bush's Colon" McCain, I'd probably vote for Barr.

If the Ballot says:

Clinton/Obama
McCain
Nader
Barr

I'm think I'll be voting Barr...

...or sticking to my original plan and writing in Paul.

t3knomanser: Bob Barr is a pretty good guy.

If you like insane drug warriors. How can he run as a libertarian?

Yeah, because in a real democracy, we mock those who seek the office of presidency based. Especially if they're doing it based on concern of current issues.

FTFA: His clients have included the American Civil Liberties Union and the Marijuana Policy Project, a group pushing Congress to allow medical marijuana use and to cut spending for what it says are failed anti-drug media campaigns aimed at young people. Barr also holds the 21st Century Liberties Chair for Freedom and Privacy at the American Conservative Union Foundation and is a board member of the National Rifle Association.

I've always liked Barr; it would be tough to choose between him and Obama.

I also hope the libertarian party can break whatever threshold it is to be considered a legitimate party by the government so they can become something more than batshiat randroids.

/I would love nothing more than a libertarian/economic-conservative coalition government to form in this country

Oh, Bob Barr would take away a hell of a lot of votes from McCain. Sure, he's a "pro-life" abortion facilitator and big-government "conservative,"but there's a sub-nation of good ol' boys out there who still want to believe, primarily because they remember him as one of the shinier-mouthed clowns of the Clinton impeachment fiasco.

Me, I'll always remember him as the guy who ate cheese made from the milk of Borat's wife's tit.

t3knomanser: Bob Barr is a pretty good guy. If my choice is Hillary "I'd put a puppy in a blender for votes" Clinton or John "I did a tour of duty in GW Bush's Colon" McCain, I'd probably vote for Barr.

OK, my turn:
If my choice is Hillary "I'd stomp little baby ducklings to mushy little pulps for votes" Clinton or John "I lovingly nuzzle GW Bush's scrotum" McCain, I'd probably vote for Barr.

Great! Another thread where you can get bashed just for voting!

Remember, vote for necessary evils. Otherwise you're throwing your vote away.

My turn: Barack "twenty years as a civil rights activist in South Side Chicago qualifies me be be president" Obama, or John "twenty five years in Congress" McCain I'm going with McCain.

tomhath: My turn: Barack "twenty years as a civil rights activist in South Side Chicago qualifies me be be president" Obama, or John "twenty five years in Congress" McCain I'm going with McCain.

That comparison doesn't make McCain look good.

What the fark is it with all of the wanna-be libertarians suddenly crawling out into the light? First Ron Paul, then Mike Gravel, and now Barr?

When did "libertarian" become a label people wanted?

knobmaker: t3knomanser: Bob Barr is a pretty good guy.

If you like insane drug warriors. How can he run as a libertarian?

How could "state-sponsored religion is alright with me" Ron Paul?


When did Ron Paul sponsor legislation to promote a state religion?

Bob Barr pushed through legislation to keep states from legalizing medical marijuana. It's useful to separate personal opinions from legislative activity. "I think abortion is wrong" is different from "Women who get abortions should go to jail for murder."

I wholeheartedly support a Bob Barr candidacy on the libertarian ticket.

Because I will enjoy seeing both him and McCain wearing Barak Obama's balls as a moustache in November.

When did "libertarian" become a label people wanted?

Right. Liberty is bad. Everyone knows that.

"Ralph Nader effect" is a myth.

Ok band name though.

knobmaker: When did "libertarian" become a label people wanted?

Right. Liberty is bad. Everyone knows that.

and "scientologists?" Science is great stuff

knobmaker: How can he run as a libertarian?

He's not running as a libertarian, he's running as a Libertarian. Which is another indication that the party has no direction, no principles, and no hope.

tomhath: My turn: Barack "twenty years as a civil rights activist in South Side Chicago qualifies me be be president" Obama, or John "twenty five years in Congress" McCain I'm going with McCain.

My turn: Barack "at least remembers what his own policy positions are when asked by reporters" Obama or John "can't remember whether he cares about people with AIDS without asking his adviser what his position is" McCain.

ratman999: What the fark is it with all of the wanna-be libertarians suddenly crawling out into the light? First Ron Paul, then Mike Gravel, and now Barr?

When did "libertarian" become a label people wanted?

When some people realized both the first and second amendment mattered. And they decided personal respoonsibility had served this country well in the past.

Anything that brings discussion of Liberty into the mix is good.

Borat: It is custom to have cheese at the start.
Bob Barr: Thank you.
Borat: My wife, she make this cheese.
Bob Barr: Very nice.
Borat: She make it from a milk from her tit.

Fark It: Borat: It is custom to have cheese at the start.
Bob Barr: Thank you.
Borat: My wife, she make this cheese.
Bob Barr: Very nice.
Borat: She make it from a milk from her tit.

I came for the Borat references, and I wasn't let down. Thank you.

I say we elect Phil Gramm for President (McCain's Economic Advisor). He created the ENRON and current derivatives debacle with his deregulation legislation. Let the bastard fix things.

Wayne Root 4eva

It should be noted that Barr has renounced a lot of his former views. I'm inclined to believe him for no other reason than jumping to the LP two years ago makes no sense otherwise.

I'd take Barr over any of others currently seeking the LP nomination. Needless to say I won't be voting for Clinton/Obama or McCain.

Churchill2004: Needless to say I won't be voting for Clinton/Obama or McCain.

Should I ask why?

Libertarians are stooopid. As if anyone thinks freedom is a good thing anymore. We all know it doesn't work - we've already tried it and look where we are today. A permanent state of suckitude!

The only thing that is going to help us as a country is if we just get out of the way and let the smart people running the approved puppets have their way with our lives. Freedom is for suckers. Corporatism is the way of the future!

/not surprised by the level of jackassery in here
//saw Barr's speech today at the Park Place hotel
///also saw Mike Gravel in the LP debate this morning
////where was the Republican party in 1860?
//how much you wanna bet the 'approved' candidates will be talking about "change" again in 4 years?

Still voting for Nadar.

I always kind of snicker when these Libertarians talk about fiscal responsibility while spending a boatload of cash on an election they have no chance of winning.

ugahairydawgs: I always kind of snicker when these Libertarians talk about fiscal responsibility while spending a boatload of cash on an election they have no chance of winning.

OK Wait, Here's you (X)


And here's the Point (*)

Before all you libertarian fans chime in I have to ask..
Have you ever seen an ape man shot by aliens?
I mean an ape man being shot with deadly force.
Just wondering

ure, he's a "pro-life" abortion facilitator and big-government "conservative,"but there's a sub-nation of good ol' boys out there who still want to believe, primarily because they remember him as one of the shinier-mouthed clowns of the Clinton impeachment fiasco.

The funny thing is that he is pro-life, but paid for his 2nd wife to get an abortion. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. Thats kinda funny when you think about it. I imagine he's against divorce too!


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ratman999: When did "libertarian" become a label people wanted?

Agreed, I can't understand what the heck they're thinking.

I've been to a few gatherings of "Goldwater Republicans" here in Arizona, and the term "Libertarian" in some of those circles might as well be synonymous with leprosy. It's just a term you want to avoid.

We've had some die-hard Libertarians show up at our meetings. Wow. It's like this tightly bound package of paranoia, crazy and anti-authoritarianism all wrapped into one.

After talking to a few of them, I wanted to run out and get a sidearm the next day. Not to secure might rights under the Second Amendment, but rather, because I knew that people like that were loose out in the world.

As long as you have the Montana militias, guys running around doing "Guns for Tots", dressing up as the State of Liberty and/or costumes of the Old Republic or other bat shiate crazy things like that, your party is not going to be taken seriously.

I mean heck, look at Ron Paul. He was a Libertarian-Confederate and look at his supporters. Eeeesh.

Dinjiin: I've been to a few gatherings of "Goldwater Republicans" here in Arizona, and the term "Libertarian" in some of those circles might as well be synonymous with leprosy. It's just a term you want to avoid.

I mean heck, look at Ron Paul. He was a Libertarian-Confederate and look at his supporters. Eeeesh.

Can you explain why Goldwater's son endorsed Ron Paul?

ratman999: What the fark is it with all of the wanna-be libertarians suddenly crawling out into the light? First Ron Paul, then Mike Gravel, and now Barr?

When did "libertarian" become a label people wanted?

When people realized that either of the two "real" parties want nothing more than to steal all of your money, rights, property, privacy........

I think the Republicans would be amazed and appalled at how many votes they would lose to a Libertarian this time around.

/Not a Libertarian
//Don't even play one on TV

Subby seems to believe that the two party system works just fine as it is and outsiders should stay home.

whidbey: Great! Another thread where you can get bashed just for voting!

Remember, vote for necessary evils. Otherwise you're throwing your vote away.

Voting only encourages them.

BHK: Subby seems to believe that the two party system works just fine as it is and outsiders should stay home.

Actually quite the opposite. I am just resigned to the fact that despite whatever the stupid polls say, when it comes time to pull the lever or press the button or touch the screen or whatever, the depressingly overwhelming majority of Americans will vote for a Republicrat.

/voted third party or independent the last 3 elections
//writing in myself this time now that I'm old enough

Oh yeah

/submitter

lilbjorn: I think the Republicans would be amazed and appalled at how many votes they would lose to a Libertarian this time around.

This.

Unless McCain picks Huckabee for a running mate, I'd bet my car that Barr wins Georgia.

from religioustolerance.org


Occasionally, a North American political figure makes a statement or performs an act that is profoundly religiously intolerant or which violates the federal constitution in a major way. We recognize such events by issuing a Burning Times award. More details about these awards.

This award was given on 1999-MAY-20 to Rep. Bob Barr of Georgia, in recognition of being the North American political figure whose behavior most closely exemplifies the spirit of the Witch burning times of the 15th to 18th centuries.

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Representative Bob Barr's Statements:

U.S. Representative Bob Barr (GA-7) has been a United States Attorney, and currently serves on the House Judiciary, Government Reform and Banking committees. 2

On 1999-MAY-13, he issued a press release titled:

"BARR: CAUSES OF YOUTH VIOLENCE FOUND IN ADULT CULTURE." 3

He lists as one of the causes of youth violence the practice by the U.S. military to permit Wiccan personnel to observe their religious faith. Wicca is a benign, earth-centered religion, which is somewhat similar to Native American Spirituality. A second source of youth violence that he cites is the increasing acceptance by university students of humanism, a secular, non-theistic philosophy with a strong ethical component.

On 1999-MAY-18, he issued a second press release. Copies were delivered to military and congressional leaders. Recipients included Army Secretary Louis Caldera and Lt. Gen. Leon S. LaPorte, commander of Fort Hood, TX. It is titled:

"BARR DEMANDS END TO TAXPAYER-FUNDED WITCHCRAFT ON AMERICAN MILITARY BASES." 4

He is reported as having viewed a report on The O'Reilly Factor, a program on Fox News. It featured vernal equinox ceremonies by soldiers at Fort Hood, TX. He had heard that military chaplains at Fort Hood, and other bases "are sanctioning, if not supporting the practice of witchcraft as a 'religion' by soldiers on military bases."

Dinjiin
ratman999: When did "libertarian" become a label people wanted?

Agreed, I can't understand what the heck they're thinking.

All you need to do is read the party platform and educate yourself.